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Google Checkout Sees Poor Customer Satisfaction

Aryabhata writes "Ars Technica reports on a survey by investment firm J.P. Morgan Securities, stating that Google Checkout has had a relatively quick and modest market penetration of six percent since its launch in June of 2006, but lags behind in customer satisfaction vs PayPal. On the customer satisfaction front, only 18.8 percent reported having a 'good' or 'very good' experience with Google Checkout, while 81.2 percent indicated a fair to poor experience customer experience compared to PayPal's 44.2 percent reporting good experiences. Some users have reported anecdotally that Google Checkout mistakenly canceled sales without warning or that the checkout process took too long."

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  1. Re:Google's touch by PhoenixAtlantios · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's an interesting point of view, because as far as I was aware the only Google services that have "taken off" have been their Search and GMail - anything else was either bought or has only had minor impact. Sure, they've dabbled in just about everything, but they certainly haven't expanded far past Search yet (unless I somehow missed something huge?)

  2. Re:The world is bigger than the US by PartickMonkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So if one needs to have a US based address doesn't that render the service useless to anyone living outside of the US, who is buying goods for themselves or others?

    hopefull teething troubles will get ironed out and service expanded. I know a few scots that are creaming to use it

    //can't believe its not butter

  3. Re:The world is bigger than the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's probably a matter of compliance with national (i.e. non-US) trading and consumer rights laws and regulations.

  4. Re:C'est la vie. by nospam007 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, most services coming from US-based companies only support US residents. Most US merchants won't ship outside US - google checkout or not - and many won't accept non-US credit cards even for shipping within the US. It is unfortunate,...
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  5. Re:Huh? by Rakshasa+Taisab · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As the report said, they have a higher penetration amongst early adopters. These are usually much harder to please, so unless the report compared satisfaction amongst the same groups, it won't be entirely accurate.

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  6. Re:Google's touch by Frankie70 · · Score: 5, Insightful


    this is the first time i've heard of something touched by google not instantly turning to gold!


    Hardly. Google has a lot of stuff which haven't really made an Impact
    Orkut - successfull only in India & Brazil, not even close in the USA.
    Google Talk - barely in the Top 10 IMs.
    Google Finance - barely in the Top 50 finance sites
    Google Blog Search - far behind Technorati

    Lots more probably.

  7. That high? by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "compared to PayPal's 44.2 percent reporting good experiences."

    Are you sure you don't want to not use a non-credit card account to not complete this transaction? Give us access to an account you can't issue a chargeback with and we'll give you a shiny raffle ticket!

    Seriously, with a numeric majority of those polled saying they didn't have a positive experience with PayPal, just how hard can it be to top them?

  8. Re:I am not surprised.. by iDope · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That is if everything goes perfectly. But its not that simple. You forgot issues like fraud, refunds, chargebacks, disputes, user errors, etc. You need need humans to handle such issues (especially when money is changing hands).

  9. Why is Google doing Google Checkout? by MojoRilla · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have been thinking about why google got into this business, and why they were offering ridiculous amounts off (I used the $20 off of orders over $50 myself) to use the service.

    Clearly, there is money to be made in the third party credit card processing biz. Witness Yahoo and Paypal.

    Also, I think there is an advantage for them to have their own ecomm facilities. They are starting to offer pay services (one of the earliest I have seen is charging for more space in Picassa's online web album), and having a well established ecomm service will allow them to charge for a variety of other things easily. And, the more credit card orders they process, the better rates they get from credit card companies.

    Finally, once they associate your financial information with your google account, they can use it to target advertising. If you read their privacy policy, they admit to doing just that (sharing non-transactional data from Google Payment Corporation and Google), but there is a way to opt out, although you can only do that through email, which seems really lame.

  10. Re:Huh? by PietjeJantje · · Score: 5, Insightful
    "This is very weird (...) it really did seem to me way better than paypal"

    Thank you for your anecdotal evidence, now we can throw away the empiric data on 1100 customers.

  11. Re:Google's touch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Actually, you're wrong. I don't have any numbers, but I'm pretty sure...

    "I don't know anything beyond my anecdotal evidence to support my personal bias, but I do know that you're wrong, and my purely opinion-based conclusion puts Googletalk in the 5th rank."

    Wow, fucktard, are you a fanboy or astroturfer?

  12. Re:Google's touch by Temporal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    AdWords and AdSense probably qualify as "huge".

  13. Fraud Protection by Bastardchyld · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can sympathize with your problems, however I also understand why Google would have done what they have done. I mean seriously Google cannot just tell you that your number has been blacklisted. Theoritically if you were the bad guy you now know not to use the number at Google, or even at all. If they don't say that will allow the Credit Card company to collect more information, and possibly catch the bad guy. Otherwise he simply moves onto the next poor fool's card number.

    Now I do find it odd that your CC company did not call you to let you know. But perhaps that was because Google did not notify said company.

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    1. Re:Fraud Protection by honkycat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I disagree. Google should tell you that your number is considered compromised/blacklisted so that, in case you are the legitimate holder, you waste no time in getting the situation resolved.

      If a scammer is using the number and it gets rejected without explanation, he's probably already going to move on to the next number in his pile. You're not giving him much advantage by providing an explanation. He's got a good reason to suspect that he may be detected and will likely view any out-of-the-ordinary problems as a sign he's been noticed.

      The legitimate owner, on the other hand, will presume that he's going to be allowed to do what he's trying to do. If there's a generic problem like repeated order cancellations, it's not at all obvious to conclude it's a problem with his credit card. My first guess would be that the store is having inventory problems or just has a lousy ordering system. Being told to contact your bank to change your credit card number would be extremely useful to a legitimate user.

      Giving the reason for the rejection gives little benefit to a scammer and great benefit to a legitimate user. It'd be better to provide the reason.

    2. Re:Fraud Protection by almostmanda · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't buy your "catching the bad guy" excuse, and here's why: my bank had no idea this was going on. Google never notified them. Not when the adsense attempt happened (which could have been YEARS ago), and not when I attempted to use GCO. Me calling them up to cancel the card was the first they'd heard of it.

      I would PREFER if the "bad guy" knew not to use my card anymore. I don't really think we should pretend everything's peachy just so he can continue attempting to use my card. If he gets a "THIS IS BLACKLISTED" message, maybe it will occur to him to stop using the card because someone has caught on. And If the legitimate holder gets this message, then they know to cancel it instead of just assuming buy.com is a crappy website.

      Google could have handled it better. I did my part and canceled when they told me, but shouldn't they be obligated to inform me that my account had possibly been compromised?

  14. Google checkout is complicated, slow by rock217 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A few months ago I developed a checkout system that used a number of payment options, I found google checkout to be the most complicated and the slowest when compared to paypals array of payment processing options (payflow pro, etc) or other merchant account setups.

    Google checkout was the only processor (that I used) that had a distributed processing engine. Unlike say paypal where you execute a POST request and the response code comes back in the same transaction, google is more "fire and wait for a callback", you setup a callback URL to process the google checkout responses, then you start submitting your XML shopping carts and...just...wait...for...8...XML...transactions.. .to...finish.

    I'm not blaming XML here mind you, but after the user hits "submit" with their credit card information it takes 8 requests to fully process, and in the case of AMEX that timeframe is usually 30 minutes to an hour(ouch!) Compare at paypal which I've never seen take longer than 2 minutes, or a merchant account setup which takes 1-5 seconds.

    This may be OK if you sell an actual product as the consumer is accustom to waiting a few days for their package to ship/arrive, however it is quite unacceptable when say, selling a service where most users are used to seeing (almost) immediate responses.

    Also (at the time of my development) you cannot remove the shipping protocols out of the transaction, google requires you to acknowledge that yes in fact your order has shipped, even if there is no shipping of a product (very confusing for users when they receive a "your order has shipped!" email.)

    As for the project I was working on, the clients decided google was too slow, they ended up dropping them as a payment option even though they had better rates than paypal.

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  15. Re:PayPal: Adversarial and tricky. by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Billionaires often feel that they are better than everyone else, and that they don't have to be open and honest. The billionaires who run eBay seem to think that way.

    That's because eBay is verging on being a monopoly when it comes to online auctions. If there were an alternative that got anything like the audience eBay gets, I suspect a lot of users sick of their BS would switch over very quickly.

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  16. Re:Google's touch by Zaatxe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Orkut - successfull only in India & Brazil, not even close in the USA.

    So, if it's not successfull in the USA, it doesn't count?

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