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What Do You Do for New User Orientation?

An anonymous reader asks: "What do you do for new user orientation? I started at a company as part of a very small help desk / MIS department. Part of my job is to give orientation to all new computer users for the entire company (no more than 10 new users a week). Right now I have to sit with each user, go over logging in, passwords, email, outlook, Microsoft Office, and so on. This takes between 30-45 minutes. What do other IT departments do? I was thinking of a Flash presentation or website, and maybe even a short orientation movie. What ideas have you tried and how well did they work?"

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  1. A movie or flash is nice by tetrode · · Score: 1

    But it takes some time to
      - prepare (scenario and stuff)
    and more importantly
      - keep up to date

    I know, I've done that for a product presentation. After one year, new version, throw away the presentation, start over again...

    Mark

    1. Re:A movie or flash is nice by PRC+Banker · · Score: 3, Informative

      I know, I've done that for a product presentation. After one year, new version, throw away the presentation, start over again...

      I agree that multimedia is good, but it's not the only thing to have. I've been giving and receiving presentations for a few years, and a good video is really useful. More useful, however, is a paper copy containing all of the key points. Paper can be picked up and browsed at one's leisure, it can be pinned next to the desk (quite useful for new users learning how to log-in), it can contain all of the useful information and pointers (for example, advising users to check a wiki for details relating to specialist applications).

      A paper (laminated) hint-sheet is easy to produce, can address the majority of simple issues, and can can ensure that users always have an easy-to-access reminder of what they learnt from individual sessions and video presentations.

      One more thing, it doesn't matter how fabulous the video presentation was, be charasmatic. It makes people feel good about you, feel more interested and able to learn, and puts you on their side instead of them feeling no qualms to call/bother 'the faceless tech guy'.

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    2. Re:A movie or flash is nice by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      It really doesn't need to take that long. At my work place, we use Camtasia all the time to produce tutorials. I can do a 1 minute tutorial in about 10 minutes (including producing as a Flash movie). When I'm dealing with about 100 instructors, none of which have the same schedule so they can't show up for training on a new technology, this is the fastest and easiest way to train them all at their own leisure.

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    3. Re:A movie or flash is nice by try_anything · · Score: 1
      Can you recommend tools for Linux and Windows, preferably free (as in beer)?

      I'd like to produce some demos for my friends and coworkers a la the outstanding Slime video you can find on this page.

      Some programs provide a very powerful working environment but leave new users wondering, "How am I supposed to use these features to get something done?" A video is the best answer.

      video : big powerful program :: code examples : big complex API

    4. Re:A movie or flash is nice by tetrode · · Score: 1

      Indeed. 1:10 is our experience as well for smallish presentations. For big ones there is more clean up to do, you record it in parts, do the voice afterwards, add some music here and there. The 1:10 will go to 1:20 then.

      The average presentation we do for clients is between 2 hour and 3 hours of which 1 hour can be product presentation. We make call center software and when a client is really interested and wants to see all sides of the product, I can easily spend 1.5 hours.

      In a recorded presentation you want to show everything you have, but you don't know the customer so you need to explain everything to a reasonable detail, not too fast, not too slow.

      1,5 hours x 15 = about 22 hours (lapsed time, we did it with 2) which is about what we spend last time recording, voicing-over, cleaning up, and making the final CD.

      Prospects were happy, though.

      Mark

  2. Large turnover by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe you are swaming them with stuff they don't need.
    Large numbers of new users every week can mean immense expansion or they are really put of by your new user orientation meetings.

    If its turnover, perhaps it would be easier to skip the email/office stuff until they need it.

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  3. New Users by notaspunkymonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Company I work for try to bunch together new joiners and run a full 1 day computer introduction training session in one of our dedicated training rooms, on their second day (with first day being the usual this is your team, this is the fire regs etc). New Joiners get the benefit of meeting other people starting at the same time as them - and then get the run through on how our systems work - with more structured training for specific applications they may have to use carried out later that week. Its fairly informal but also gives us the chance to go properly through our computer use policy etc. we are finding that fewer people need these intro's as time progresses, however you still get the odd person who is mystified by the whole thing.

  4. Orientation? by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

    It involves duct tape, Vaseline, five rolls of toilet paper and the trunk of a mini-cooper.

    But we don't call it "orientation", we call it "hazing".

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    1. Re:Orientation? by KUHurdler · · Score: 1



      and coincidently... extremely high turnover rates.

      Not that it's a bad thing in your scenario.

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    2. Re:Orientation? by phunctor · · Score: 3, Funny

      First I orient them in a generally inverted position, suspended by one ankle over the edge of the observation deck. Then, when I begin to actually believe their frenzied promises to RTFM, I re-orient them to a feet-down, head-up position and send them on their way. Help desk calls are down 87%, possibly due to the unfortunate slippage rate amongst those who fail to convince me that they will in fact RTFM. -- phunctor "mmmm, crack!"

  5. Here's what I do by Centurix · · Score: 5, Funny

    I sit them in front of a computer, don't tell them anything and I poke them with a stick if they do something wrong.

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    1. Re:Here's what I do by BrokenHalo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, given the small amount that most new users manage to retain from those quickie orientation sessions, that might not be such a bad policy.

      Better would be a quick session to show users how to logon, and present them with a simple printed booklet to cover details. This has the double advantage of being much easier to maintain than a Flash presentation, as well as usually being easier to process mentally.

      I know there are many who might throw up their hands in horror when I say this, but for all that Flash presentations might be very good for impressing nerds, they are not necessarily a good medium for conveying instructions.

    2. Re:Here's what I do by daeg · · Score: 1

      Not to mention it is hard to take notes inside a Flash presentation or orientation video.

      A small printed manual, however, will let people take notes, draw doodles, and vent their anger toward the damn booklet instead of you.

      Note that I said SMALL. People don't want a 300pg binder unless the job actually calls for one!

      We do something similar here, although I've turned the book into a small Wiki. While I do have to edit and revise any edits people make (for clarity, spelling, formatting and so forth), they are coming up with things that need documentation that I had no idea people actually (a) cared about and (b) didn't know about.

      (Tip for Wiki documentation: set it up to save the search history of your Wiki. You can easily discern what needs to be documented, what needs links (e.g., people here searched for "form archive" because that's what an old tool was called) to proper articles, etc.)

  6. Not the Flash presentation! by PalmerEldritch42 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Unless you want to spend a lot of money putting together a professional and engaging presentation, don't bother with that route. I am not a manager, but I have been to enough new employee orientations that I feel I have a good understanding of what works (at least for me). Sitting a new employee down in a room and making them watch some presentation, be it on DVD or online is pretty much a waste of time. The thing that a new employee needs is face time. Sit with them and show them what they will be doing. Sit them with their co-workers and let them show him what, exactly, the job entails. Orientation is about gettin gto know your peers, learning about the company you will be working for, and finding out what the job is that you have been hired for. There is always the obligatory legal issues (dress code, no bad language in the workplace, no molestation of the opposite sex, and whatnot). But the important thing is to get a feel for the new environment and find out what you are being hired to do in a more specific way than the interview process would have lead you to believe.

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    1. Re:Not the Flash presentation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      There is always the obligatory legal issues (dress code, no bad language in the workplace, no molestation of the opposite sex, and whatnot).


      Do you mean that your office lets you molest the same sex? Sign me up!
    2. Re:Not the Flash presentation! by oliverthered · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      dress code : Pink
      no bad language: Gay is off the list, fist fuck is ok.
      no molestation of the opposite sex : Sign me up.

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    3. Re:Not the Flash presentation! by Eivind · · Score: 1
      There is always the obligatory legal issues (dress code, no bad language in the workplace, no molestation of the opposite sex, and whatnot).

      There is ?

      You guys hire as *employees* people that aren't yet done with primary-school ?

      Is this a US-thing ? That employees are to be treated as pre-school idiots ? Is basic normal human behaviour not among the things you would expect from someone *before* even considering hiring them ?

      I've had like half a dozen different jobs (not counting smaller short-time stuff), and not even *once* have I had anyone explain dress-code, polite behaviour, refraining-from-butt-grabing or any of that stuff to me. Nor should there be any need to. Now on the (extremely rare if your hiring-policies are sane) occasions when somebody *does* behave in an unacceptable way, you need to have a talk with the person in question. But to assume from the get-go that you're dealing with idiots is extremely insulting.

    4. Re:Not the Flash presentation! by honkycat · · Score: 1

      I've not come across dress codes or language "training," but non-discrimination training or anti-discrimination training are very common at large organizations in the US. There are still a few people out there who do have unacceptable ideas of what is humorous or otherwise appropriate in a workplace with regard to these matters. However, it's mostly a cover-your-ass move -- when someone does file a lawsuit for harassment, the company can be liable if they're found to have fostered an environment conducive to that behavior. These training activities demonstrate that the company has made an effort to prevent this.

      As for places that may discuss dress code / language / polite behavior, that's perhaps not a bad idea, even if it's unnecessary for most people. There are widely varying ideas of what language / dress are offensive, even among reasonable people. By spelling out what the company considers to be acceptable, perhaps some problems can be avoided. At the least, when the offender is terminated for cause, they can't argue they weren't notified of the company policy from the get-go...

    5. Re:Not the Flash presentation! by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I think it's common in a lot of businesses to assume the employees are either idiots, or thieves. When I was in University, I applied to quite a few retail jobs, and have the questions they ask you, either through an online questionaire or at the interview have to do with whether or not you will steal from them. They assume right from the get-go that you're going to steal from them. With a lot of office jobs (mostly for larger organizations) everyone is required to take sensitivity training to ensure they're aware of what harassment (sexual or otherwise) is. I don't think this is a case of assuming the employees are stupid, but rather a situation whereby the employer is covering their own ass in case an employee decides to sue the company when another employee harasses them.

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    6. Re:Not the Flash presentation! by lewp · · Score: 1
      Is this a US-thing ? That employees are to be treated as pre-school idiots ?


      Yes. It's what you get when you live in the most retardedly litigious society in history. Every little thing has to be spelled out to the letter, and no leeway can ever be given, lest somebody should get fired for not using common sense and try -- and probably succeed -- to strike it rich with a lawsuit.

      Of course, the fact that you're likely to encounter a few pre-school idiots in any reasonably sized working environment might have something to do with it, too.

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    7. Re:Not the Flash presentation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (dress code, no bad language in the workplace, no molestation of the opposite sex, and whatnot)

      Welcome, time-travelling visitor from 1987, to the 21st century. We don't have dress codes any more, we can use whatever fucking language we like as long as nobody around us objects, and our previous president got away with molesting the opposite sex in the Oval Office. It's a whole brave new world out here!

    8. Re:Not the Flash presentation! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Of course, the fact that you're likely to encounter a few pre-school idiots in any reasonably sized working environment might have something to do with it, too.
      Duh...what would a company be without its CXOs?
    9. Re:Not the Flash presentation! by Eivind · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I guess so, comes down to your silly system of liability once again I guess.

      If someone behaves in an unacceptable way towards you at work, and you notify your supervisor about this -- but nothing happens -- then I agree it's reasonable to hold the company responsible.

      But there's a long way from that and to require companies to hold "sensitivity training" or similar stupidity to avoid liability for what is clearly not their fault.

      It also seems to me the US workplace is amazingly intolerant. Personal expression is restrained a *LOT* more than is required for a nice workplace. To me, it's even *desirable* that people can be themselves at work. Personal attacks or disrespect for the limits of others (be they sexual or other) is unacceptable anywhere, but that doesn't mean one should behave as on Disney-TV, it would be nice if one could atleast assume we're dealing with adults -- capable of saying so if something doesn't fit them.

    10. Re:Not the Flash presentation! by Eivind · · Score: 1
      There's idiots in Norway too. (quite a few, matter of fact)

      Thing is, if some idiot behaves unacceptably towards me at work, I'll first simply tell him: "I don't accept that behaviour, please stop it." (it's not that hard!)

      If that didn't work, I'd talk to my supervisor: "I've got this problem with [idiot] -- he keeps doing [thing] even though I find that unacceptable and have clearly said so to him."

      Which would result in [idiot] getting a stern talk with the supervisor, perhaps even a written warning, depending on what exactly he is doing. If he choose to ignore this warning too, he'll be fired. Simple.

      Now, even the idiot who doesn't use common sense can't claim he didn't know. After the written warning, he *must* know. And if he persists, I find firing him perfectly reasonable.

      Firing immediately, on first offense, can happen to. But it's very rare, and basically only happens when the employeee has also trough his actions broken a law. For example, an employee convicted of sexual assault in some job-related situation would definitely be fired without warning. But he can hardly claim that he "didn't know" that sexual assault was unacceptable. (well, he could claim it, but it'd get laughed out of court)

  7. Set up a wiki by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A wiki is probably the most flexible way to set up something like this. It can serve both as an introduction (think pages linked one after another) and as a general documentation tool.

    And unlike a flash presentation it's searchable and less of a pain in the rear end to update.

    PS. Wikis can be read only for regular users too...

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    1. Re:Set up a wiki by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      I would steer against this idea.
      Your new users need something quick simple and effective.
      They have office, so could create an effective powerpoint (or equiv) presentation going over the basic requirements.

      I would be against giving them access to the intranet before they know whats expected of them.

      A web browser is not the right tool for training (easy to browse elsewhere...)

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    2. Re:Set up a wiki by simm1701 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      and get the new starter to expand on the wiki anything they found the wiki did not explain well enough for them, after they have learnt it the hard way

      I did the same after starting here - added a wiki page of all those things I wished I had known during the first few weeks here (new company, new country) so jotted them down to try and save the same pains for anyone who joined after me. A few other brit contractors have already sent me an email thanking me for putting it together

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    3. Re:Set up a wiki by kitsunewarlock · · Score: 2, Funny

      Until some vandal (inside the company* or outside) finds your wiki and has your employee jumping up and down in a grass skirt on the top of his cubicle screaming at the height of his lungs "ITS A TRAP! ITS A TRAP! THE LAWNMOWERS ARE PLANNING A REBELLION AGAINST US! WE WILL SERVE TO EVERY ONE OF THEIR GREASY, SHEERING-INDUCED WHIMS!"** Wait, that might be a good way to preemptively screen for people who don't have the balls, foresight and brain power to determine if an idea is bad or not, even if its an order. *Disgruntled workers, ho! **I for one welcome our new sheering-intoxicated lawn-cutting overlords.

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    4. Re:Set up a wiki by jascat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And what average user is going to go dig in a wiki? They don't want to go find the answer for themselves. They want to and will call the helpdesk if it is available. Trust me, I know. Tried a similar approach.

      On a side note, orientation isn't going to do anyone good unless it really grabs people's attention and a movie or flash is just going to put them to sleep. They don't care! I have to do all sorts of annual training for my job, from fire extinguishers to information assurance, all of which I click or fast forward through to get to the test at the end.

      If it doesn't have anything to do with pay and/or benefits, either make it live and fun or skip it altogether. They can pick up standard operating procedures from their supervisor.

    5. Re:Set up a wiki by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 1

      And what average user is going to go dig in a wiki? They don't want to go find the answer for themselves. They want to and will call the helpdesk if it is available. Trust me, I know. Tried a similar approach.


      Didn't read my commend, did you?

      A wiki can serve as a superset of an introduction. You can set up a linear set of pages to serve as an introduction. No digging needed.

      I do second that it's hard to motivate people to actually go through an introduction, but if the job requires a formal introduction I think that someone who can't read trough an introduction and actually learn something is not much of an employee.
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  8. Swim or drown by Zombie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    We give our new guys a laptop and tell them to install it. If it's not running Debian smoothly by the next day, we fire them. What they use for office, mail, web, chat - whatever, is their own business.

    1. Re:Swim or drown by Vengeance · · Score: 1

      Your ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

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    2. Re:Swim or drown by barry_the_bogan · · Score: 1

      So that's 1hrs work, 7hrs doing whatever I like? Are you guys hiring?

    3. Re:Swim or drown by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 1
      I just give my users a Stage 1 Gentoo install. If they don't have KDE up and running by the end of the day, they're gone.

      In all fairness, a 'test' like what you suggested is a good idea. I work at a large defense contractor, and I have a good idea why it costs $500 for a hammer. 'Software Engineers' that can't grasp basic concepts like source control. One told me that instead of using this complex subversion, we should just pass around tarballs of our source code. Another person brought on to administer our build server didn't understand what SSH was.

    4. Re:Swim or drown by biglig2 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Weaklings! I give my users a bucket of sand, and if they haven't build a 486 laptop from it by the end of the day, we kill them and eat their livers.

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    5. Re:Swim or drown by lewp · · Score: 1
      One told me that instead of using this complex subversion, we should just pass around tarballs of our source code.

      Passing around tarballs sounds silly until the only other option is Subversion.

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    6. Re:Swim or drown by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      what, no slashing in two with a bread knife and dancing about on their graves?

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    7. Re:Swim or drown by mysqlrocks · · Score: 1
      Passing around tarballs sounds silly until the only other option is Subversion.

      Either you're joking, or you're lazy. Subversion is relatively easy to learn and certainly easier than trying to keep a bunch of tarballs in sync. Heck, everything you need to know about Subversion is in the very well written book, Version Control with Subversion. Once you've read it and understood how to work with Subversion, then tell me which is easier.

    8. Re:Swim or drown by bplipschitz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Weaklings! I give my users a bucket of sand, and if they haven't build a 486 laptop from it by the end of the day, we kill them and eat their livers.

      . . .with a nice Chianti.

    9. Re:Swim or drown by biglig2 · · Score: 1

      You know, I looked that up once, and a nice Chianti is just the right wine to serve with liver....

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    10. Re:Swim or drown by biglig2 · · Score: 1

      Yes, I was tempted too, but I fear that if I reference the Four Yorkshiremen sketch then some idiot will comes along and say "I love Monty Python".

      And then I'd have to go and eat David Frost's liver because it's his fault that almost none of "At Last the 1948 Show" still exists, and you just know it's not going to taste very nice.

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    11. Re:Swim or drown by lewp · · Score: 1

      Actually, it was more a crack that Subversion sucks. Of course, being "mysqlrocks", I don't expect you to recognize shit when you see it.

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    12. Re:Swim or drown by mysqlrocks · · Score: 1
      Actually, it was more a crack that Subversion sucks.

      Yes, I knew what you meant. My point was that Subversion doesn't suck. It would be interesting to hear your specific complaints with it other than "it sucks". My guess is that your complaints are based on a lack of knowledge about basic version control practices and not actually any issues with the software itself. That's why I suggested you read the book I linked to.

    13. Re:Swim or drown by lewp · · Score: 1

      Or maybe I just think darcs, arch, monotone, or -- hell, if you have to have some relationship with svn -- even svk (I don't know anything about BitKeeper since there are lots of adequate free solutions and everywhere I've worked has used CVS or; now, unfortunately, SVN) are a hell of a lot better. SVN is CVS "done right", which is still version control done wrong, and it has its own problems on top of CVS'.

      If you must have specifics, the thing that bothers me the most is that you have to run a merge before you can check in changes to a file if you're not up to date with the latest repository revision. Right before a merge is the time I most want version control, because it's the easiest time to really fuck something up, and svn just pretends like the situation doesn't exist and makes you merge the changes into your unsaved working copy. Great idea!

      Good version control software gets in the way of development as little as possible. SVN (and CVS) get in the way all the time, except when you really need them, then they can't do shit for you. They're good at forcing you to keep an updated copy of your source somewhere, and they're decent for finding out who's to blame for a problem. They're even nice at helping you generate nifty changelogs. They suck at the things that matter: helping you coordinate changes between multiple team members and allowing those folks to work as independently of each other as possible without duplicating effort or bumping heads.

      I did read this book, because maybe I thought I was just giving it a bad rap based on the fact that CVS is crap and SVN is a logical continuation of the ideas in CVS. Nope.

      Don't be mistaken, they're both better than nothing. But that's pretty much all they're better than.

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    14. Re:Swim or drown by mysqlrocks · · Score: 1

      If I'm hearing you correctly, it sounds like we simply have a difference of opinion on which is better, centralized or decentralized version control. I can see the benefits of both, but my general preference is centralized version control. With Subversion (a centralized version control system), the code in your repository is what's most important, and your working copy is simply a temporary work space. Before you start working, you run an update to make sure you've got the latest stuff from the repository. You then do a unit of work, run another update to merge any changes from the repository into your working copy, and then do a commit to put your changes into the repository. You then move on to the next unit of work.

      Where you can get into trouble is in the following situations:

      • Not running an update before you start working. If you don't, you're more likely to run into merging issues later.
      • Doing too much work before committing your changes back to the repository (or at least running another update to bring in the latest changes from the repository). The longer you go without merging the repository into your working copy, the more changes other developers could have committed and the more merging work you may have to do. Also, since your working copy is meant to be only a temporary work space, by not committing often you risk losing work.

      I find this edit-merge-commit model works very well for me. I like having one authoritative copy of the software in my repository and I like the discipline of doing a unit of work and committing it. If you follow the basic work-flow I outlined above, I don't see how subversion doesn't "help you coordinate changes between multiple team members and allow those folks to work as independently of each other as possible without duplicating effort or bumping heads." Simply update and commit often and you're good-to-go. I haven't worked with decentralized version control, but I understand the basic concepts and why it would work for some people. If developers prefer to go for extended periods of time without updating or committing, then decentralized version control would certainly work better.

    15. Re:Swim or drown by lewp · · Score: 1

      You get the point, but don't seem to think it's a problem. BK puts it more eloquently than I would (of course, they're trying to sell you something):

      Subversion loses information every time there is parallel development because you are forced to merge before you check in if someone else checked in first. The state of your workspace before the merge is lost forever. Another way to say this is that if there is N-way parallel development, Subversion loses N-1 events.

      Maybe you don't think that's a big deal. That's cool. But you can't honestly say that svn gives you anything in return. After all, there's nothing stopping you from using a centralized repo with, say, monotone and following pretty much the same development model as you do with svn, except for the fact mtn won't nuke your workspace because it feels the work you've done since you last checked out is valuable enough to treat with respect. Having lost work to merges with svn after working for just a couple hours since I last updated, I agree with it.

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    16. Re:Swim or drown by mysqlrocks · · Score: 1

      Like I said, when using Subversion your working copy is only a temporary workspace. You merge the repository version into your local copy before you do a commit. As far as merges go, you don't have to use Subversion's merge tool if you don't trust it - you can do a diff and manually pick which changes to keep. Yes, technically the state of your workspace before the merge is "lost forever". But, even with decentralized version control you still need to do a merge at some point. If it's so important to have this intermediate state saved, you can always work on a branch that only you are committing to (however, if all developers are going to do this all the time, you might as well use decentralized version control). I think Subversion gives me many, very useful, features. Again, it comes down to centralized vs. decentralized version control. You certainly wouldn't argue that there is anything better than Subversion for centralized version control?

    17. Re:Swim or drown by lewp · · Score: 1

      You certainly wouldn't argue that there is anything better than Subversion for centralized version control?

      Dunno. All I have to compare it against inside your narrow little corridor is CVS, so maybe it's the best of what I would contend is an inherently bad design. Lots of folks have nice things to say about Perforce, though, so maybe not.

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  9. Why is it your problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    If someone needs basic computer skills as part of their job they should be hired with them. If you use unusual or custom systems there should be documentation in place and the new employee's "mentor" should run them through it as part of their job orientation. Under no circumstances should you be spending 30-45 minutes explaining Office and email to people. Those are basic applications that everyone should be familiar with.

    Once a new employee's PC is imaged and installed we give them their default passwords and our job is done.

  10. Various things by digitalhermit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Buddy" programs can be effective. Have the newbie work with another employee to teach them the basics such as how to access the important intranet sites, where to rent projectors, good eating spots, how to change/reset passwords, etc.. Presentations don't seem too useful, and are probably driven more by HR's CYA policy than anything (i.e., an ethics class is mandatory so people know what they can't do).

    That's closer to ideal.. In reality most people get an email. I've heard that a near one-on-one instructor/student training class is optimal.... I've also heard that there's a pot of gold at the end of every rainbow. I'm still waiting for both.

  11. Gather them by $pearhead · · Score: 1

    Why not gather all new users and have one presentation for all of them (once a week or something), instead of sitting down with each one?

    1. Re:Gather them by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 1

      Why not gather all new users and have one presentation for all of them (once a week or something), instead of sitting down with each one?


      That only works if the flow of new employees is sufficiently large. Otherwise once a week is too often... They did this on a former job of mine. By the time the orientation came along I knew everything already. Orientation only works if you're disoriented ;)
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    2. Re:Gather them by Half+a+dent · · Score: 1

      Thats a good idea if they all start on Monday morning but HR seems to avoid logical decisions like this. So you could feasibly have someone sat at a desk for up to 4 days without any training.

  12. Make them watch a real life scenario by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you make them watch the 6 episodes of The IT Crowd, they may get an idea of how and what kind of support they would get. So they will learn for themselves and avoid mistakes. Or just run and leave the position for someone with more... aptitudes :-)

  13. Get a co-worker to just start screaming and crying by antifoidulus · · Score: 4, Funny

    about how he "lost his lifes work and will probably get fired because he didn't listen to the IT guy."

  14. Training? by Tinfoil · · Score: 1

    I don't give any training in office applications or on the OS that they are using. I do have a ~ 20 page booklet that I give each new hire for intructions on using our rather antiquated ERM software, but that's the only real training they get. If they need help on more basic practices, I help them when they need it and when I feel like it.

  15. Orientation by Half+a+dent · · Score: 1

    We sit them on a chair and spin it fast for about 30 seconds... no wait that's dis-orientation.

    Seriously we have a one sheet document with all the basics like logging in, email, internet and so on. We go through this with them at their PC to make sure they understand. They receive one-to-one training for any specialist software and we are always happy to talk them through the basics of Office.

    My 2 cents for what it is worth is not to over-complicate things, keep it short, give them some basic quick reference material and to train at their desk if feasible to help them get familiar with their surroundings (this may not be possible with complex training but should be fine for the basics).

    Although it should be their manager/supervisor's job make sure they are introduced to colleagues in their department doing a similar job as they are usually happy to help a new starter if they get a little lost. This will also take some support pressure off you.

    There is also all the legal stuff they have to read and sign - terms of use, non-disclosure, conflicts of interest, etc, but HR usually handle that.

  16. Orientation by purple_cobra · · Score: 1

    Make them learn Chinese?

  17. Well... by ilovegeorgebush · · Score: 1

    "Here's your computer, login details. No porn. You can game or blog at lunchtimes. Have fun."

    I wish :)

  18. Re:Get a co-worker to just start screaming and cry by Aladrin · · Score: 1

    A mod point, a mod point! My kingdom for a mod point!

    Seriously, that's the funniest thing all morning.

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  19. Just a single page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After they've signed all the legal junk (you know the 50 pages of small type that says you won't use the company's IT resources for anything but work), give them just a single page showing how to login and who to call if there is a problem. The rest should be left up to their supervisor. There should be no need for a 30min session on how to log in.

  20. Nothing by gillbates · · Score: 1

    I happen to know of an IT department at a big company that does nothing for new user orientation. That's right - nothing. Oh, and there seems to be an unwritten department rule that new hires aren't allowed to touch a computer for the first two weeks.

    I'll leave as an exercise for the reader to explain why someone who has been working there for 6 weeks still cannot check their voice mail...

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    1. Re:Nothing by JamesTRexx · · Score: 1

      That's just about how things are at our company. When a new user arrives and he gets new hardware we only show her/him how to do the basic stuff when she/he asks for it.
      Only a while ago did new users get a internet and telephone rulebook and that's the closest they got to written documentation.
      Thanks to this question and the fact I've got to do a network migration I started a draft on a user guide just now. I hope the finished version will save us plenty of dumb newbie questions.

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    2. Re:Nothing by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1
      I started work six weeks ago at one of the largest software companies in the world (actually, I'm pretty sure it's /the/). Yeah yeah yeah.

      I have the joy of being (in my team), the only one of twenty PMs without a notebook (handy, when the entirety of my job is meetings and such. I have to use paper. Even more hilarious, yesterday the PMs twice-weekly meeting. Twenty people, nineteen of them with notebooks. Me peering over someone's shoulder and scribbling furiously on my paper.)

      And then there's the lack of phone on my desk ...

  21. Server crash drill by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

    You pretend something they did caused the main production server to crash, and see how they handle it (so you know what to expect in case that really does happen)!

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  22. Course Management Software. by saintlupus · · Score: 1

    I work at a college, and I'm looking into using our Course Management Software (we use Blackboard, but there are Free alternatives) for some of our training. That allows for interactive lessons, testing, etc. and the person can go back and reread what they like later on.

    Check out moodle.

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  23. We who are about to die.... by Lord_Slepnir · · Score: 1

    There are some good suggestions here. I think I'll replace my current procedure (First stupid question is free, second question is $20, third question and you'll have to face the Rancor.)

  24. Come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People who I have to explain the location of their asscrack shouldn't make it through the 1st interview at all.

    Maybe your job interviewers need some orientation. ...EXCEPT you work for a consulting company... then "incompetence" spells like "client-lock-in"...

  25. Our Process by Stormcrow309 · · Score: 1

    We give them a copy of the appropriate policies, go over a brief overview of those policies, show them how to access the extensive CBT library we've created, and explain why security has tazers, extendable batons, pepper spray, and guns. Then, we send them on their merry way with a firm reminder what happens to people do things they are suppost to with data they have access to.

    God, I love IT in the Healthcare setting.

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  26. Geeks and businessmen... by suv4x4 · · Score: 1

    Geeks and businessmen... You can always rely on them to walk 9 seas and mountains but find a replacement for good ol' human contact.

  27. Make them build their own desk or chair by hirschma · · Score: 3, Interesting

    New hires at my old company were given a cheapo desks and chairs that required assembly. This applied to everyone from the receptionist to my most senior hires.

    They were shown to their new spot, given the tools, and told that this was their first order of business. That was all.

    Nearby employees were told to offer any and all assistance, but only if asked.

    This worked on many levels. It was symbolic of the philosophy at the company. For some, it ended up being a "team-building" exercise, or a social ice-breaker. For others, it showed that they were clever and self reliant. Some folks couldn't get it done, and refused to ask for help. This almost always signified termination at their first opportunity. And the .com type investors loved it, too :)

    1. Re:Make them build their own desk or chair by Spazztastic · · Score: 1

      I just was hired at a small software development company doing help desk related work. My boss shows me my office, where there is a desk, chair, and a pile of computer and supplies. He says "Cut a hole in the wall, put in the Ethernet jack, and then set up your computer.

      I'm on my 4th day, and its good so far.

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  28. Make Your Own Orientation Movie by ReidMaynard · · Score: 1

    With Hand Puppets!

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  29. Ahh new employees! by revlayle · · Score: 1

    We have a ritual: We get out the trucks and let the new folks run down the almost-ready-to-retirees. Makes the day go a whole lot better, and we save money!

    Good times... good times...

  30. Well,,, by teflaime · · Score: 1

    I usually have them executed;P. Actually, I have never handled new user orientation, but I have worked at Universities for a long time. The support group for the appropriate consituency (faculty/staff, students) has a booklet, several forms, and a CD they hand out. The users are supposed to read the booklet, sign the forms that they have read the booklet and will abide by University computer usage guidelines, and watch the animation on the CD. Then they are supposed to install the antivirus and email clients on the CD if they don't have one of each of their own.

  31. Casual quick meetings and a fact sheet by Darth_Burrito · · Score: 1

    We get a new user every couple of weeks so it's a low priority for us. I usually try to give them a single page facts sheet containing their login, important file server paths, how to access webmail offsite, and IT's contact information. We then spend a very little time doing things like opening up Outlook, talking about any special programs they'll be needing and what they'll need to do to get access to them. We've been looking at putting some of the generic information online, but unfortunately, different groups have different needs/ways of doing things, so this complicates things.

    One thing good about this procedure is that it affords me some face time with new users. This gives them an opportunity to get to know me and hopefully lets them feel comfortable shooting questions my way. At the same time, spending a few minutes working with them gives me the opportunity to find out if this person is going to be an easy user or if they are some sort of demon spawn sent from hell to twist and snap the tattered remains of my soul by finding strange and spectacular new ways to fail their "use email" proficiency check.

    If I had to do this 7-8 times a week, I might try to combine the sessions. That's just too much time and too many people. And my experience is that if you do the new user meeting, you get the new user questions for weeks or forever or until you repeatedly turf them.

  32. Gather them-Line'em up. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Thats a good idea if they all start on Monday morning but HR seems to avoid logical decisions like this. "

    HR is going to start you on a paycycle boundary.

    1. Re:Gather them-Line'em up. by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      Oh, you optimist. The last two jobs I've had they tried to pull the "you started the day after the pay cycle began, and we don't pay incomplete cycles, so you'll have to wait 3 weeks 6 days to get paid" (not that this was inherently a problem, but there was a principle). "No, my job contract specifies I get paid every two weeks, not "every two weeks you have completed an entire paycycle"." They argued, and I probably annoyed a few people (as they ended up having to manually do an electronic transfer), but I got paid as entitled, when entitled.

  33. "...and so on" by rnturn · · Score: 1

    I assumes that phrase includes showing them how to do the 'ol Ctrl-Alt-Del, right? And where the Big Red Switch is (in case that doesn't help)?

    I'm (mostly) kidding of course. They should already know that. On the other hand, I still recall the time when I had to sit down and show a person (at the small company that I was working for at the time as a VMS and UNIX admin) how to use Word headings and automatically create a table of contents of a document. (It was sort of like showing fire to a caveman.) She was doing page numbering by hand as well. Her job? She was hired as a documentation specialist. Supposedly with extensive experience with Word. So your biggest mistake might actually be leaving out of your orientation spiel such basic things that one would assume the new employees would already know. You know, that prior experience that they were supposed to have before getting an offer.

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  34. New Employees by wonkavader · · Score: 2, Insightful

    New Employees need:
        To know things (rules, passwords, techniques, etc.)
        To feel things (comfort with the people around them, a small sense of 'at home')

    If you get the second one, the first will take care of itself. Spend time with the person. Actual "Face" time. Teach them something (anything) about the company, so they get in the learning mode -- they'll pick up a lot in between the lines of any topic you pick. Make the rules of the company (dress codes and crap like that) as small a part of the conversation as possible, but provide them with a document on it. Play the rules down. You want them to feel free, so that they'll talk and learn and grow on their own.

    Take 'em to lunch. Do it as a small group -- not necessarily the whole team, but more than just Boss and hire. Get them to be social and see people around them as lunch partners.

    Then GIVE THEM A TASK WHICH WILL REQUIRE COMMUNICATION WITH THE GROUP. After they've got plugged in, the assimilation process will take care of itself.

    The idea that you'd want to give them a movie or something suggests that you're not interested in spending time talking with people. I don't want to work at your company.

  35. This is an easy question by lewp · · Score: 1

    First, I show them how to use Outlook. Then I email them a picture of my ass, and tell them to get used to kissing it.

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  36. Some companies do not care by rbanzai · · Score: 1

    At my company I had to beg to be notified of new hires before their first day. Sometimes they still show up on the first day and I have no idea who they are, and no one even knows where they are supposed to sit.

    I made a PDF full of nice big screenshots and labels as a reference for using remote access and webmail. I print it out for each new employee and offer to review it with them. No one wants the review, most people throw out the reference.

    This would be fine except they're not doing it because they are skilled. They are doing it because they do not give a shit. After all, they can always just phone me at home on a Sunday night because they don't know how to use remote access.

    I've discussed it with the General Manager and the HR Manager and tried to explain that it saves the company money when employees are more self sufficient, and that the investment in time spent training (15-20 minutes) is worth it in productivity. They also do not give a shit.

    So I still print out the "welcome" docs and ask if people want to review it but... I also no longer give a shit. At least not until I work somewhere more sensible about productivity and the new hire process. :)

    1. Re:Some companies do not care by westyx · · Score: 1

      "I charge $100 an hour, minimum one hour, billed in hourly increments, for all calls on weekends which are covered in the orientation paper I have just handed to you. This will be automatically billed from your pay. See you tomorrow!"

    2. Re:Some companies do not care by rbanzai · · Score: 1

      That's awesome. I could finally generate some revenue for my department... by leeching off of dumbness!

  37. hehehe by josepha48 · · Score: 1

    a blind fold and a mary-go-round .. weee..

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      A "mary"-go-round? Is this what you call the cheap prostitute you pick up when her welfare check hasn't arrived yet?

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  38. Paper by Inode+Jones · · Score: 1

    If experience is any indication at the sites I've worked at recently, IT does very little orientation (and then gets to pay for it later).

    Avoid anything computerized. New users may not be able to view wikis or movies, etc. especially if they don't yet have an account or have not been told how to access it.

    I use a plain paper employee guide which describes everything and provides sufficient information to use all services (email, Unix, Windows, voice mail). I print a copy and give it to new hires. (Alternatively, if the new hire has a personal email address that they already have access to and it is clear that they know how to use it, as evidenced by receipt of email from that address, then I can email the document to them.) If you dare, the guide should include simple troubleshooting procedures/common problems so that the new hires can determine that perhaps the reason that something doesn't work is that the account hasn't been created yet and time will solve the problem.

    Your goal is to be sufficiently complete that in the normal case, a new hire never has to call the helpdesk. The amount of time you spend fielding help calls for common questions will exceed any time spent training, esp. if no training is required because all procedures are documented in the employee guide.

  39. Short and sweet by dukefs · · Score: 1

    I work as a helpdesk/support technician in an IT-based company. The majority of our employees are contracted by Nortel for either customer support or documentation services. Most of them have a basic understanding of a computer and various common applications such as MS Word, Excel and so on, so during their training sessions, we take a very short amount of time to orient them to local company policies and procedures. This mostly entails an overview of the intranet, some specialized software (such as an Oracle front-end), and a tour of where to find help when needed. That last part usually involved my pager number ;) All-in-all, it's quite effective for us, and usually only takes about 20 minutes. No videos, no flash, just hands-on "Follow the link" activity.

  40. Security video by Teh+MegaHurtz · · Score: 1

    Our department has a security video that we use before we allow new employees to access our system. It covers basic computer security, and provides information on different level of protected information. After that, we give them their username and password on a memo that also contains a bunch of useful information for new users, such as how to access e-mail, and what the various network drives are for. Also on this memo are more security reminders. After that, we send them on their way. Anything else they need to know from this point would be application specific, and my assumption is that if the company has hired them, then they have already demonstrated that they have the required skills for the position, so I won't bother teaching them what they should already know.

  41. Got sent to Israel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For my "new hire orientation" at my current job, we got sent to Israel, where the company is based, for a week.

    We went through training and overview sessions with the CEO, CFO, and other such titles. We were taken out to extremely good food in Tel Aviv, Jaffa, and Jerusalem. And to top it off we went on a team-building scavenger hunt between Tel Aviv and old Jerusalem.

    Definitely a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

  42. at the company where I work by spudgun · · Score: 1

    Here's your PC , here's your install disks

    have fun

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  43. Ask after religious preferences first by abb3w · · Score: 2, Interesting

    To wit, PC vs. Mac vs. Linux. Mac users are also asked about how long they've been using them.

    Next is setting up their accounts; this involves warning them of the minimum acceptable complexity allowed for passwords, showing them how to change their passwords to something marginally more memorable than the automatic preassigned random gibberish, and reminding them of the minimum requirements after the first password change attempt is rejected. I then tell them that neither I nor anyone else will ever ask for their password — if I or anyone in IT need access, we will change it, and tell them the new password afterward (so the user may change it back); anyone who asks for their password should be reported to me and to the central IT security number immediately as an attempt to breach security.

    After that, I point out the selection of web browsers available on their workstation (IE/Firefox/Opera, additional options for the Mac), advocate Firefox for regular use, and direct them to the central IT website's security training -- which is mostly dick-and-jane "don't share passwords, human!" common sense stuff; there's a quiz as part of it. I tell them to complete the security training, while I do something vaguely productive nearby (borrowing a mobile laptop if need be) and wait for questions. At the end, I point out the main IT policies page, note that most of it is common sense, but they should glance through the policies as soon as possible, because they may end up "nailed to the wall with rusty railroad spikes as a warning to others" if they fail to follow them. If they express doubt, I invite them to stop by my desk to see my rusty railroad spikes. (Bottom desk drawer; four of 'em, plus a 6kg sledge with a 40 cm handle. Just in case.)

    Once that's done, I then introduce them to the most regularly used software applications: email, Office, calendaring app, the local quick-and-dirty non-Acrobat PDF maker, and so on. The VPN software usually requires a digression into a bad analogy to explain why it's important. ("If you use the dumb-as-a-senator idea that the internet is a series of tubes, the problem is that most of the tubes are transparent, and might let any evil passerby see what's inside. Unless you're willing to give me all of your credit cards now to go shopping with, this is a bad thing. A VPN uses cryptography to run an opaque garden hose over to one of our secure machines, so people can't spy on you until after your traffic leaves our network again.") An overview of the strengths and limitations of whatever POS machine they're stuck working at follows.

    I then give them my mixed guru/BOFH lecture:

    • I have pity on ignorance and will treat it with patience and education
    • I feel paranoia is preferable to carelessness, and will grant much leeway accordingly
    • I was educated by Catholic nuns, own a ruler, and believe pain is a wonderful way to focus the mind
    • I have no mercy for outright stupidity, and no-one has ever found a body I've hidden
    • I have potential access to any data on any of our systems, but have better things to do than read their email "usually"
    • I will be happy to help them install any needed software once I am convinced it is licensed and not a security threat
    • When I respond to a request with "you have my divided attention", they should accept this as the best they'll get, since my undivided attention requires a loaded weapon to obtain and is unhealthy to have
    • I have no life, so they may feel free to call me at home outside normal work hours, but should understand that I answer the phone in Klingon to discourage telemarketing computers, that they may need to leave a message on my answering machine, and that they must accept that after hours *I* get to decide how important the problem is.

    I have happy users; I am beloved, respected, and feared. Aside from an expresso machine for my office, what more could a geek want?

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    1. Re:Ask after religious preferences first by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1
      At the end, I point out the main IT policies page, note that most of it is common sense, but they should glance through the policies as soon as possible, because they may end up "nailed to the wall with rusty railroad spikes as a warning to others" if they fail to follow them. If they express doubt, I invite them to stop by my desk to see my rusty railroad spikes. (Bottom desk drawer; four of 'em, plus a 6kg sledge with a 40 cm handle. Just in case.)

      Pop quiz, are these the same rusty railroad spikes that are the first thing confiscated by security when an ex-employee latches on to all this as an inroad into "creating a threatening workpace"?

    2. Re:Ask after religious preferences first by abb3w · · Score: 1

      Pop quiz, are these the same rusty railroad spikes that are the first thing confiscated by security when an ex-employee latches on to all this as an inroad into "creating a threatening workpace"?

      No; since one of the important folk hereabouts is an expert in railroad history, I actually have a plausible excuse for having those around; they're mine, but he uses them as props for talks occasionally. The sledge actually belonged to my predecessor; I have no idea why he had it. Additionally, few openly express doubt, and aside from the historian, no-one's ever taken up the offer to see them. The wrought-iron replica midaeval thumbscrews I picked up in my SCA days and now use as a desktop paperweight will be more likely to be the first security grab, and more of a challenge to explain.

      Add in that hanging upside from the five meter high ceiling of my office I have an open-top box with "complaints" stenciled on the inside bottom, and it becomes clear I just have "the usual odd IT sense of humor".

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  44. Is what you're doing not working? by hivemind_mvgc · · Score: 1

    I think that if you're seeing good results from what you're doing, then keep doing it. I'm not saying don't tweak/optimize/refine it, but putting a personal face on IT is sometimes a big deal in a small company where your job security depends as much on how well you are perceived as how well you perform. Get to know your customers, it'll help you in the end. If you think of them as anonymous lusers, even if you don't think you're letting them know you do, _you are_.

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  45. PowerPoint? by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

    (Or Keynote, or OO Impress.)

    Better: Get yourself a small-ish room. Fill the room with 10 workstations and a projector. You work on a computer on the projector -- probably with RDP/VNC access to the other machines in the room, so that in most cases, if a user has a problem, you can take over their computer and demonstrate the solution to the entire room.

    Basically, do what you would do in your video, but with one group, once a week, and actually be there for it. Should only take 30-45 mins, right? Figure it might take an hour or two, but basically, the reason you're doing this live (instead of a Flash video) is so that you get to demonstrate on a real machine (and they can try it on one as well), and you get to answer any questions that they have, immediately, in front of the group, without having to go one-on-one with every single one (and probably answer the same questions).

    Also, talk to HR and see if you can get the authority to fire people for technical incompetence, or at least deny them access to your network. Basically, if you have to spend more than an hour or so educating them, they need to come back when they've learned how to click a mouse -- or they're too stupid to use a computer. Personally, I think I could tutor just about anyone to use a computer as well as I can, but there's only so much time you can invest in someone before it makes sense to hire someone else instead -- if someone requires more than an hour of training in basic stuff like logging on and MS Word, they should go find another way to educate themselves, then try again -- it shouldn't be your job, any more than it should be accounting's job to teach people basic addition.

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  46. Face time by GWBasic · · Score: 1

    New employees appreciate some face time. If you have the luxury of a classroom setting in your building, consider running a 1-hour class that covers the same topics. This will save you time, because you get to handle all the employees in one hour. It will also help your new employees meet each other; and those who are more technically savy can help others.