Bionic Eye Could Restore Vision
MattSparkes writes "A new bionic eye could restore vision to the profoundly blind. A prototype was tested on six patients and 'within a few weeks all could detect light, identify objects and even perceive motion again. For one patient, this was the first time he had seen anything in half a century.' The user wears a pair of glasses that contain a miniature camera and that wirelessly transmits video to a cellphone-sized computer in the wearer's pocket. This computer processes the image information and wirelessly transmits it to a tiny electronic receiver implanted in the wearer's head."
I imagine that in the not too distant future some perfectly healthy geek will have one of these implanted. I'd seriously consider it when resolution gets to about 24 bit SVGA ( It will have to have fast PGP on the wireless connection so that I control what I am seeing. I do not want my optical nerve spammed directly ).
I hope there is a 'turn-off-and-see-through' option that lets you use the original organic hardware when you want.
It works even better if it is implanted in an infant, so that the brain can adapt to it as it grows. This will, of course, be considered child abuse when it is first done. In a century or two it will be considered abuse NOT to have it done for your kid.
So the image is recieved wirelesly into the brain basically. I wonder if they get any interference.. or can they maybe pick up TV channels?... that would be a bonus.
The current prototype emits a disturbing strange sound whenever the bionic eye is activated.
I'd personally opt for a HUD displaying the same stats found on the SIMS. This way, I know just what I need to be happy and successful.
It's about an eye. How is there nothing to see?
Literally, this will definately benefit my eye condition. I hope that this research turns out to be helpful. From what I understand so far though, it is just prolonging the inevitable... but hey, that's better than nothing.
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The procedure was shown on the Apple computer commercial.
+3 For the technology +2 For it actually working (would like to see more results data from a reputable source) +2 For bridging the gap between biological and technological distinctiveness (Resistance is futile) -2 For it being Wireless (prone to interference and hacking to the Nth degree, assuming this prototype has no security subsystems installed)
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Now if only the eye could make the cool bionic sound.
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i believe i saw this, or something very like it, on an episode of scientific american frontiers almost a year ago . it's even possible to watch that portion of the episode online, provided you're willing to use either real or windows media.
True, but the alternative would be to have a cable protruding from the user's head. If my choices were a) being totally blind; b) being able to see (to some degree) but having to worry about my vision being possibly interfered with; or c) being able to see (to some degree) but having to worry about getting an infection of or near my brain... I would probably pick b).
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Not when the MPAA finds out about it. Then they'll either force you to watch commercials or else send you C&D letters to make you stop seeing. Remember, bionic eyes clearly induce people to use them for watching copyright-violated material.
Canadians, who are a little smarter, will just assume that everyone's bionic eyes are used to watch infringing material and will charge a tax on bionic eye hardware and pay the industry a cut.
If we're lucky, maybe DVD Jon will still be around to save us from FairWatch and WatchForSure.
And yea, the last thing I need is another way to receive "Penis Enlargement" spam...
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I don't know about having this thing fixed on my face for the sole purpose of getting super-human vision. Mr. La Forge wore a simular for years, and I don't remember him getting any action. As a matter of fact, he later upgraded to have somewhat normal-looking eyes.
I first heard about this over ten years ago, i've since been dreaming of the day when i can replace my inferior biological eye with a miniature camera that allows me to see in infra red, ultra violot, low light, maybe even some sort of Superman sub-clothes vision.
It looks like they are a bit closer now, so it might just happen in my lifespan.
Reminds me of a Neal Stephenson book, where some tiny, minor character killed himself since he got infected with some ad that played in his vision 24/7. It might have been about Korean roach motel, but it's been too long since I've read it.
http://www.seeingwithsound.com/
No surgery and apparently it works. What you should see in front of you is converted to sound. Apparently it works great. I've heard a demo on the radio and it really sounds weird. It's different than sonar, which the blind use, in that light levels are converted to sound.
..anyone have linux running on it yet?
I don't want to be a Nazi, but damn
would have been much easier to parse.
"This computer processes the image information and wirelessly transmits it to a tiny electronic receiver implanted in the wearer's head."
:)
What could possibly go wrong
We must find the frequencies this uses and take over them. Soon, all will see butts!
This reminds me of the tongue eye
It's a camera that was on the blind persons head, and it sends information down so a thing in you're mouth that sits on your tongue, and the pixels on the tongue device move up and down and eventually you can recognise it as images.
"sudo rm -rf your-face"
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For those too young to remember: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Six_Million_Doll
(Six million dollars sounded like a lot of money back then)
Yes, but only with Evolution for a window manager.
Next thing we'll see a linux distro that supports the new Human BrainTM architecture, I'm guessing it will be a even bigger pain than usual to make the video drivers work with this one.
This throws a whole new wrench in that abc show "Blind Justice"... If the show was still running this topic would be taken care of in sweeps.
Doesn't make jordy laforge look so silly now does it?s /dn11198/dn11198-1_600.jpg s /dn11198/dn11198-2_650.jpg
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By the looks of things the signals going to be pretty small so I don't imagine it
would send much interference. But it might recieve a buch though if it has to be ulra
sensitive though. Oh well it's not like you need more than 30-40fps.
On the other hand what if you woke up, switched on your recievers so you could find
where your glasses were by looking at what was infront of them...wonder if they can
do this with car keys?
And one more idea, what about the aplication of remote sensing. You have the recievers
implanted into your head and use cameras around your house. Guess you would need to be
pretty paranoid to do that....
Money is the root of all evil?
As long as it makes me feel like a koala bear crapped a rainbow in my head, I'm all for it.
Once you start despising the jerks, you become one.
Once you've got a digital video stream transmitting to the brain it wouldn't be too hard to manipulate it to produce "hallucinations".
/. Headline in 2015: "FractalStars.c now a Schedule I Controlled Code Block"
I wonder how the DEA/FDA would treat hallucinogenic code?
Steve Mann wrote a textbook worth reading by anyone truly interested in the subject.
Man, we've had this since the 1960's! Anyone watch Six Million Dollar Man? Even in the 80's we had this technology. It was called Terminator. Look at him, he's now Governor of California!
I, for one, welcome our Bionic Eye wearing overlords.
Just add {In Space!} to anything.
I'm blind in one eye, so this definitely interests me. I don't normally mind the reduced depth perception, but I think it would be nice to have a monocle version of this that I can use when doing delicate work or perhaps driving. I am required by law to have a side mirror on the passenger side, but I have to turn my head too far to be able to see it (bad eye = right eye). I wonder how the brain would handle seeing a near-infinite resolution image coming out of the organic eye, and a VGA/SVGA image from the implant.
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Star Trek... I hear Gordie wants the eyedea all to himself.
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It reads like some cybernetic breakthrough, but the device is nothing special. The breakthrough will be when surgical skills have advanced enough to actually attach thousands of individual sensor outputs to specific retinal nerves, along with refining the electrical exchange between the two in a manner that more closely approximates nature. The eye is more complex than its connection to the brain, also. There are 100 times as many photoreceptors as there are axons to the visual cortex, so there's a lot going on in the eye itself beyond acting as a receptor.
At present, this is more of a proof of concept than a cure for blindness.
Wireless might be bad for the possibility of intercepting/pirate signals. Think of the alternative. A cable comming out? :/
Prone to infection, super ugly, it'd be like a wound that never closed... a head wound at that.
Another kitten experiment involved raising them in environments with either only horizontal or only vertical lines. As adults, they simply could not see objects of the 'wrong' orientation. A cat who had been raised in a horizontal-only world could hop up on the seat of a chair, but would bump into the legs if he tried to walk under it.
I'm more reminded of G'Kar and his detachable artificial eye from Babylon Five.
.. paranoid crackpot leftover from the days of Amiga.
This is fucking amazing, and huge. No, really.
I think for younger people (who have lost sight due to some premature condition or tragedy), this should be Government funded. I would respect a country's government who gave sight to it's citizens. No one should be blind.
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I am seriously disturbed, yes. None of the geek community shouted out loud: And how the heck you connect to the neural computer the brain is? Really, how you attach you VGA camera to the brain? I mean I presume brain doesn't have a DVI plug, so, do you somehow managed to plug-it to the 'neural wires'? What coding are you using? What resolution? What FPS? (lol) That is indeed amazing.. Also rises all kinds of dirty questions like=> can we plug or cast video stream to the brain??? we can send pictures directly there??
I have to believe that having not seen in over 50 years, the first glimmer of anything visual would make you cry.
Being partially color deficient, something like this would make it interesting to see colors in the real perspective. They have the technology to restore vision, hearing, and regrow organs, yet fixing simple color perspective has not been fixed? I guess it's not as important, but still would be nice to overcome eventually.
Wait until someone figures out the structure of the wirelessly transmitted packets. Would it be weird if all of a sudden you're talking to a friend and some hax0r is transmitting his pr0n directly to your head?
I see an "I Spy" like possibility where Eddy Murphy sees Owen Wilson getting his ass beat in the middle of a boxing match.
i want mine with one of those IR filters...not for seeing through clothes tho...
Might be a cheaper way to kinda check it out. Most color blind people are trichromatic like everyone else, but very weak in red or green perception. Most are weak-green (deutan anomalous), but I happen to be weak-red (protan anomalous). If weak, you may be able to get a rough idea how an image would appear by amplifying your weak portion of the spectrum in images. It's the inverse of the process they use to show normal color vision people what color-blind people probably see where they drop the various colors down. Anyway, for example my television offers a feature to do just that and is labeled something like 'color correction for color vision impaired'. I find it handy in certain video game puzzles that require color discrimination.
That said, 99% of the time I leave the feature off. Ultimately, 'normal' is a relative term, and normal/realistic looking to me is matching what I've been seeing for the past few decades. Cranking up the red looks as weird to me as it does to everyone else, though my weird may be closer to their normal, that isn't how it works.
I think those born with a sensory deficiency/lack are luckier than those who lose it later. Though color deficiency is far from a big deal, especially to me, those around me upon finding out say 'oh, sorry to hear, that must suck'. When I have heavy congestion that diminishes my hearing for a while, I always feel a little bit of dread at the thought of persistant, merely incomplete hearing loss, and have a significant amount of relieve the moment that happens when things clear enough to hear well again.
XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more.
Does the wireless transmission have encryption? If not or if it was 128-bit WEP, I can easily see what he sees including the implanter's naked wife. It will take extra work if it was encrypted in WPA
As a side effect of premature birth both of my son's retinas are detached. Is there any research into bypassing the retina and going straight for the optic nerve or to the vision centers of the brain?
Do the mods need a bionic eye to see the irony in the parent's post? I thought it was slightly clever.
I doubt both claims, and I think it's a grave mistake, building pessimism into your expectations of people.
If a blind child can see again, nobody's likely to claim it was child abuse that led there. (unless the chip posed some health risk, but they must have tested in on animals first, right?)
On the other hand, if sony develops a new graphics chip in 20 years and it's all the rave, there won't be any reason to blame the people who opt for good old fashioned God-given human-sense-based reality.
As for two HUNDRED years from now... well, I don't presume to know what will be happening so far into the future.
It's amazing stuff, though. It reminds me of System Shock I. I guess they've finally for-real bridged the gap between man and machine.
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Tapping a cane around forward to this.
Because the joke is... you can't... you can't see well... er... yeah sorry.
Relax I just want some peanuts.
The technology that is described here can be used to design a new class of man-machine interfaces. Consider the traditional display. Digital data is first rendered as alpha-numeric-graphic icons and presented on a screen. Optical signals emanating from the screen reach the eye, get converted into electro-chemical signals that are processed by the nervous system.
... instead let us pass it to the pre-processing software of the bionic eye ... and from then on into the ganglion.
The technology that is described here picks up optical signals, converts them into electrical signals (most probably digital), does some pre-processing and passes them directly to the ganglion cells / optic nerve in the eye. The user sees light and fuzzy objects and as the image processing technology improves ( as it inevitably would ) the resolution will improve dramatically.
My hypothesis is that the intermediate optical signals are irrelevent for the man-machine interface. The digital computer output is already digital. There is no need to render this information graphically
And voila ! you would see your favourite slashdot.com website in your "minds" eye !
Am I being too futuristic ?
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Once these get to a good resolution of several megapixels or so, if the implants came with a sort of socket (preferbly the back of the neck, matrix-style) which you could attach a wire between you and a computer just like a monitor, that would be really cool for playing computer games, especially if they could make the game take up your whole vision and not just the size of a monitor. But if Windows crashed, you wouldn't be able to stop looking at the BSOD, :(.
I'm starting to work in the field of artificial vision for mi thesis and the goal on our lab is to replicate Humayun's results. This is a retinal implant (inside your eye), in constrast to a cochlear one (inside your brain).
The cochear implants tends to fry you brain in the long run, but there are so many neurons that this takes a lot of time. The retinal chips are much more easy to build and implant, but the range of deseases cured are less, as not many blind people has a working retina or optic nerve.
SVGA resolution may be overkill for the eye, you have a zone of very high resolution in the center of your vision, and very low on the borders. And the distribution of the "pixels" is radial rather than rectangular.
And i think that a direct connection to the eye is a natural progression of computer interfaces, and a very useful one. I'm not blind and got a perfect vision but if I get the chance, I would get the implant when they become more advanced.
I know some will think of some stupidity for this, but this is one step closer to the optical implants that are shown within the films and series. Yes, I know, it's nowhere near that andvanced. But, discoveries like this could lead to something like that one day. Things are changing all the time.
Once this thing gets working well, use cadmium sulfide in the receptors and you'd be able to see in a wider visual band than normal eyes. Infrared and ultraviolet would become "visible". You would see heat signatures in the dark, and have nightvision among other things.
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rediculous.
I'm sure many have wondered the same thing but.... what frequency band are the chips working on? I'm not a wireless guru but at the same time the profound amount of wireless interference in our world would have to be a problem for these....
On the same note I've read about short range wireless connections that are almost touching through the skin that are being considered for limb replacement so maybe it's the same tech? Of course it being late I can't remember the reference for that at the moment or how far along the trials are. At the same time this is a great approach because you don't have to worry about putting a lense system inside the ocular cavity since then you'd need to attach a number of muscular systems to the cameras which would be harder than figuring out the neural processing the eye does(from my understanding of these things) Nor do you have to have external cable ports which are just begging for trouble since they're open wounds in many ways even if they aren't bleeding.
Further side note... Dr. Boahen and his lab have done some work in modeling the behavior of the axon processing that occurs in the retina in silicon with additional processing layers in their silicon retina chips... and for the poster who wanted to know what all the extra photo receptors in the retina are for.. alot of that is for color detection and light adaptation. We actually perceive differences in signals.. so there are cells that fire more strongly in response to red but are dimmed when shown green in an antagonistic sort of effect and vice versa. Um... that's not exactly the best description in the world... Kandel Schwartz and Jessel "Principles of Neural Science" have several nice and easy to read chapters on the eyes for a nice quick intro. Probably not the most up to date work but eyes are pretty easy to understand since they're easy to get at. Brains are alot harder. To my understanding of what I've read(I'm not a neural scientist but I do study computer vision and biological inspiration is fun) most of the spatial and motion processing occurs in the Visual Cortex pathways more so than the eye. Please correct me if I'm mistaken but that's my understanding of things.
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We can rebuild him... we have the technology...
thats great,but can it run Linux?
How can an article about bionic eyes not have a single Tleilaxu joke?
News for nerds, pah.
This is one of those innovations that lends so much to the imagination. 360 degree vision, while it would take a while to get used to, becomes possible; New types of vision (I hate to say it, but think "Predator") are in the foreseeable future. Other brain interfaces such as bionic controllers or inter-brain communication become more concrete than fantasy. However, a few questions come to mind concerning the ability of the brain to interpret this data. We are providing the optic nerve with a digital image transformed into analog neural impulses. The brain has complicated systems of filtering that allow us to recognize movement, depth, shading, object isolation and recognition, and many other things we as humans commonly take for granted. How well does the brain process this information compared to what it normally receives from the eye? Can it adapt to gain the same (maybe more advanced) filtering system if it is hindered at first? I think these are important questions to ask, but I'm sure they will be answered with time and research. In any case, it is very exciting to me that our ability to create hardware and software that emulate human biological functions is increasing. Does anyone know if this article is related to the recent optic nerve experiment where RAM was used as optical interfaces with nodes representing nerves that clustered as they were excited?
It seems like I've heard about lab trials like this for decades now and I'm really getting bored,
the new device _may_ [emphasis mine] be available commercially by 2009,
Guess I'll be impressed when I start seeing people in my neighborhood walking around with them.
I doubt you are, but all that more eyes will acomplish is to make it more difficult to see. The brain takes the seperate data from our two eyes and lays one image over the other. This gives us depth perception when both eyes are looking at the same thing but when they're not we have double vision. Try holding your hand 2" (or 5 cm if you prefer) directly in front of one eye and you'll see what I mean. Adding more eyes around the sides of the head, either through a helmet or implants, will make focusing more difficlut and add too much information.
I suppose what really troubles me about this idea is the fact that the parent proposes expanding one sense to do the job of another. Our ears are already omni-directional. Our ears tell us what's going on around us and that's how our brain deciedes where to look. I suppose the moral here is don't try to see more, just learn to listen better.
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Apple sues for trademark infringement of this 'eye-Pod'.
What did you think would happen? It's not an eye, it's a product - and we can't very well have our products working against our best interests, can we?
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[United States poster] I'm not trolling, but people wonder why healthcare costs are spiraling. We don't pay for it directly, (insurance just "covers it") so we don't ever think about someone else paying for the Ferrari of healthcare. I'm not saying it's bad for the GDP of healthcare to be spiraling upwards, just for society to quit complaining about it as new technology is developed, we should acknowledge the fact that we need to pay for it. I for one don't mind the thought of paying more and more for keeping my parents alive for their grandkids, and I am aware that advances in healthcare will cost a considerable amount. Just as heart cancer , (or whatever the latest leading cause of death) is bumped back, it will simply be replaced by the next one on the list - along with an accompanying increase in healthcare expense. Again I don't mind paying more, but people should just plan to start paying more for it and stop complaining when their percent increases to 20%, 30%, etc. (Think lasic, plastic surgeery, bionic eye etc.)
or cell phones for that matter. Then I could interupt All My Circuits and think out loud about what a fat ass that neighbor lady has. ... though those could be anyone's thoughts.
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