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Lakes Found Under Antarctic Ice Using Space Lasers
Reverse Gear writes "There is a new study circling the media about new lakes found underneath the antarctic ice sheets that apparently empty and fill back up quite fast. 'The scientists allay fears that global warming has created these pockets of water. They say these lakes lie some 2,300 feet below compressed snow and ice, too deep for environmental temperature to reach. However, it is necessary to understand what causes the phenomenon as it can facilitate an understanding of the impact of climate change on the ice sheet in Antarctica.' NASA also has some information on the technique used to detect these lakes."
Lakes can't use lasers. I can only conclude that the lakes are full of sharks.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Here is everything you want to know about this interesting satellite:
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http://icesat.gsfc.nasa.gov/
There have been reports of people actually 'seeing' the laser as the satellite goes over:
http://www.satobs.org/seesat/Oct-2003/0064.html
New water holes way under the ice. Fun. I wonder if we will find even more 'new species' as was reported here:
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/
It could be worse, it could be Monday.
Presumably what makes them fill up is the heat from the lasers?
Heisenberg probably rules, OK
Sorry for the inconvenience everyone.
Yours etc
God
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Apologies also if you are on a planet I created with no lakes, shipping on these things is incredibly slow.
Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
What truth?
There is no dupe
Stop global warming.
Turn the frikking laser beam off.
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The sooner we accept the fact that the climate will not agree with humanity for the next few good number of generations, the sooner we can get back to discussing the inequities of modern civilization.
Isn't that how Alien vs. Predator started?
In a world of acronyms, the words are the real victims.
"It's a little weapon I like to call a 'SPACE LASER'." ...well at least it is better than being called a Turbo laser.
Well that's a really gloomy attitude. I'm sure there's a technilogical magic bullet for the problem just waiting to be discovered. :-/
No folly is more costly than the folly of intolerant idealism. - Winston Churchill
Serious question ...
Is it possible these lake were always there? Where is the evidence that these lake are a new thing and are caused by global warming?
The scientists allay fears that global warming has created these pockets of water.
Without taking a side on the issue, does every natural event have to be compared against the global warming checklist now?
It's like when there's a gas leak (or something equally trivial) in someone's house. The news immediately has to comment that "at this time, authorities say there is no reason to suspect terrorism".
Have we finished jumping at shadows yet?
Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
Apparently to the mysterious Space lakes, melting ice is taboo, akin to cannibalism among humans. Thus they have been trapped under the weight of "dead" frozen space lake beings. They have been using a subtle form of mind control on the lesser humans to increase the planets temperature, thus freeing them from their ghastly, icy confines.
..........FULL STOP.
OK. You just know that a bunch of guys are out there trying to figure how to get a wet bike onto those lakes.
You never really know how close to the edge you can go until you fall off.
Step #1: Observe abnormal or extreme environmental phenomena
Step #2: Locate a "scientist" willing to go on record
Step #3: Ignore the basic tenets of science. (Observe, theorize, prove/disprove)
Step #4: WE WILL DIE IN THE NEXT (insert your conveniently difficult to prove or disprove number here) YEARS! OMGWTFBBQ!!1!
The very fact that this article has to assure people that these underground lakes have nothing to do with global warming should raise a few eyebrows. I can feel the herd of angry Moderators rushing towards me as I type this.
I didn't see a sarcasm tag so I'm forced to conclude that you're serious. Humanity, in all of its faulty glory IS NOT THE CAUSE of temperature change. Repeat after me... "Global warming as caused by human influence is a media driven, grant driven, highly suspect piece of junk science."
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Now on to the sitations...
Mars is experiencing the SAME rate of warming that earth is. No possible human cause.
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_ice-
http://www.heartland.org/Article.
From the 40's through the 70's the concern was global cooling. In a nutshell earths temperatures declined right at the point when emissions for the most part were the worst.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
Note that as of 2002 we were complaining about Antartica's cooling temperatures. Someone forgot to inform the Antartica Temperature Management Team that they were supposed to turn UP the thermostat so that Antartica could conform to the computer models.
http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/20020015034521
As late as the 14th and 15th centuries there were frickin' dairy farms on the coast of greenland! Warm enough at that time for frickin dairy farms but lo' there was a mini ice age and it killed them off. Geenland isn't as warm now as it was just a few hundred years ago!
https://conservationfinance.wordpress.com/2006/
Satellite (read: stratospheric) temperature readings do NOT show ANY appreciable difference in the atmospheric temperatures
http://www.ghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/MSU/msusci.html
I am way too lazy to keep typing tags. Humans do not cause global warming. Now that I've trolled, flamed, and generally irritated people by saying this, I humbly accept the karma beating I am about to take. That's okay, I can creat another account
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I read last week that from the obeservations that the lakes are changing in volume the thinking is that they are connected by an extensive river system under the ice. I don't think it says but I would imagine that this may affect the plans to explore Lake Vostock, which has previously been thought to be a completely self contained eco-system but which may now be connected to a larger eco system if rivers do indeed flow into or out of it.
I wander if these rivers do ever emerge from under the ice, you'd have thought they would still flow downhill and therefore end up at the coast sooner or later.
Exploring these lakes and rivers systems would be an amazing experience, it's probably totally unfeasible to explore them with SCUBA equipment and also probably still very dangerous to explore them in submarines but I'd definitely like to see it done.
Finally someone with some common sence, I get tired of everyone atributing global warming to humans. Earth goes through natrual stages of warmth and cold. Is earth warming, quite possibly but no we didn't cause it.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. ~Albert Einstein
Wake me up when they find a meteor in one of them that proves our oceans were seeded by alien bugs that rode a comet into our atmosphere. .. what can you do ?
Of course, some spunky senator's daughter that works for NSA will probably figure it all out to be a farce. And fall in love. But
--Ne auderis delere orbem rigidum meum, non erravi pernicose!
You'll awaken the Old Ones.
So, if there are large lakes in the Anartic, that need refilling - then perhaps it's already dumping more fresh water into the oceans naturally than we originally thought. If so, this is good news for us humans. One of the major fears of global warming has been the desalinization of the oceans and the disrupting of the normal ocean currents -leading to massive global cooling. If the ice caps are already desalinating faster than we thought, perhaps we have more time than we thought to sort this whole warming thing out. I can sleep better already... off to take a nap.
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Who said anything about the cause of the problem? The point was the effect, which is gloomy, regardless who/what the causes are/were! Agree?
Actually, the more I think about it and put things into perspective, I wonder if the problem itself is even an issue in the grand scheme of things... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Blue_Dot
Imagine, one less speck!
Sarcasm? I think not!
There are noscientific claims that this is linked to global warming. The CNN article on this even had an "executive summary" that said this (sorry can't find url).
Engineering is the art of compromise.
Space Lasers... Is there anything they can't do?
Mars is experiencing the SAME rate of warming that earth is. No possible human cause.
Funny how the word you caps-locked is the one that is the most utter bullshit that neither of your articles even begins to support. Your second article even has to admit that current research shows the sun (the presumed common non-anthropogenic factor for earth and mars) only accounts for 10-30% of the warming on earth.
But then again what was I expecting from someone who says "Repeat after me" rather than "Read up on current research"? Because, you know, if you repeat your denial enough it becomes reality, right?
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Some of the 'lakes' are huge, possibly the size of Lake Ontario:
Joint NASA Study Reveals Leaks in Antarctic `Plumbing System`
It says - The research team combined images from the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer (MODIS) instrument aboard NASA's Aqua satellite and data from the Geoscience Laser Altimeter System (GLAS) on NASA's Ice Cloud and Land Elevation Satellite (ICESat) to unveil a multi-dimensional view.
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