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First Dynamically Balancing Biped Robot

damg writes "Anybots, which is three guys led by Trevor Blackwell, has developed the first robot that walks like we do, by dynamically balancing itself rather than being pre-programmed for walking like Asimo. The video shows the robot walking and being pushed by another 'bully' robot to demonstrate that it can't easily be pushed over."

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  1. Oblig by GeePrime · · Score: 5, Funny

    I, for one, welcome our new dynamically balancing robot overlords

    1. Re:Oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      I, robot, for one, welcome our new bully robot overlords.

    2. Re:Oblig by charlieman · · Score: 0, Funny

      Imagine a beowulf cluster of those!

    3. Re:Oblig by bobscealy · · Score: 1, Funny

      1) Welcome your new robotic overlords 2) Imagine a beowulf cluster of them 3) Ask if they run linux 4) ??? 5) Profit!

    4. Re:Oblig by AikonMGB · · Score: 1

      I, for one, welcome our new robotic bully overlords.

      Aikon-

    5. Re:Oblig by Conanymous+Award · · Score: 2, Funny

      In Soviet Russia, the robot dynamically balances YOU! (Ironically, the word 'robot' comes the Slavic word 'robota/rabota', meaning 'work'.)

      Oh, and I'm still waiting for the dynamically balancing Natalie Portman lookalike robot to emerge (petrified and complete with hot grits).

    6. Re:Oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SIGH

  2. He can walk the walk by Null+Perception · · Score: 5, Funny

    But can he talk the talk? I didn't think so. Move along, nothing to see here.

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    1. Re:He can walk the walk by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 4, Funny
      C3PO: "Oh, R2D2, don't be jealous because *I* can walk. (robosnicker)"

      ...R2D2 pisses oil all over the floor, watches as C3PO slips and falls on his shiny metal ass; R2D2 emits a sound suspiciously like Nelson from Simpsons "ha ha".

    2. Re:He can walk the walk by LordEd · · Score: 1

      C3PO: How rude, you insensitive droid!

    3. Re:He can walk the walk by TFGeditor · · Score: 1

      First to "dynamically balancing itself"?

      I thought Segway http://www.segway.com/ was the first.

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    4. Re:He can walk the walk by Stewie241 · · Score: 1

      Segways don't exactly walk - they roll. Though I guess there is a similar principle, this is a two-legged robot, not a motorized machine.

    5. Re:He can walk the walk by TFGeditor · · Score: 1

      You are correct from a technical standpoint, but the notion that a robot (which I believe Segway is) autonomously balancing itself is a breakthrough of some sort pales because Segway did it first, albeit in one dimension.

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    6. Re:He can walk the walk by IHC+Navistar · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind that in order for something to balance itself, it has to shift it's weight, and stay upright, including against opposing forces.

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    7. Re:He can walk the walk by bloobloo · · Score: 1

      Even the title specifically mentions bipeds. And the Segway was certainly not the first inverted pendulum to be controlled. It was just the first to make it into a stupid roll along machine to ride on.

    8. Re:He can walk the walk by Mr2cents · · Score: 1

      I thought I saw some movies a few years ago from a Dutch university showing off their dynamically balancing robot? It was pneumatic IIRC. Someone else remembers this?

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    9. Re:He can walk the walk by LaughingCoder · · Score: 1

      But can he talk the talk? I didn't think so. Move along, nothing to see here.
      Didn't you mean 'Move along, nothing to *hear* here'?
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    10. Re:He can walk the walk by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      First to "dynamically balancing itself"? I thought Segway http://www.segway.com/ [segway.com] was the first.

      The Segway, having wheels, is not generally considered to be "bipedal". Though in the video the "bully bot" looks to be a Segway with arms and a camera head.

      The bipedal bot really needs to have arms to flail about for balance. Now that would be funny. It can bring you a beer, but don't open it right away...

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    11. Re:He can walk the walk by Moofie · · Score: 1

      The.
      Segway.
      Is.
      Not.
      A.
      Biped.

      Was that clear enough?

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    12. Re:He can walk the walk by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Actually they showed a robot on PBS about 10 years ago that could hop on it's one leg. They even got the idea to "shove" it and it could recover from a shove, and a much more vicious shove than you see here.

      I wonder if it's the same guys. Their "4-legged" hopper had failed miserably, at least by the time that PBS show was shot.

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    13. Re:He can walk the walk by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Anybody else notice the ghastly resemblance to that robot from Saturn 3?

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    14. Re:He can walk the walk by bloobloo · · Score: 1

      I think the one-legged one was tethered rather than being self contained - I always find non-autonomously powered robotic mechanisms disappointing if I'm honest!

  3. Awesome by scoot80 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I want one!!!

    1. Re:Awesome by scoot80 · · Score: 1

      Is there a reason I got modded down for sounding excited? Whoever you are, you are a twit. Either that, or you haven't gotten the grasp of moderating. Well, one less point you'll be inflicting on someone else. Moron.

  4. Walks like we do? by TinBromide · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hmm, so, it walks like we do?

    Gets out of bed, goes to the fridge, pulls out a soda and pours a coffee, then sits at the computer for 12-20 hours stopping only to walk to the door to receive food deliveries, go to the fridge to get another soda, and to the bathroom to remedy the situation that the previous two types of activities has caused?

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    1. Re:Walks like we do? by callmetheraven · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hmm, so, it walks like we do?
      Well, it doesn't walk like I do, but it walks a hell of a lot like my dad does!
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    2. Re:Walks like we do? by Duggeek · · Score: 1

      /me is looking forward to the Ministry of Robotic Silly Walks...

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  5. It's like falling and missing the ground by chriss · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is ways more impressive than you'd guess from the video, which doesn't look much different from all the other walking biped robot video (it's less shiny than most). Since this always pops up and always has to be explained:

    not dynamically balanced: When the robot (e.g Asimo) moves, it's center of gravity is ALWAYS above the foot it is standing on. As a consequence, the robot could freeze at any moment without falling. Humans can walk that way, but it's slow. dynamically balanced: The center of gravity is not above the foot, basically it's falling forward, the motion cannot be stopped without falling. Much faster to move, much harder to calculate. Anybots managed this, which makes their bots a great achievement. We move this way.
    1. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by UbuntuDupe · · Score: 0

      Actually, I think its stability is more due to being held up by the clearly visible cords. Remove those, then let me see him balance.

    2. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      LOL - we're on completely different planes. I thought, "Wow, it must be hard to make that robot balance with that wild, unpredictable air/power line swinging around."

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    3. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by jkuff · · Score: 5, Informative
      This comment is spreading misinformation.


      ASIMO _absolutely_ dynamically balances. I have one in my lab at CMU and have worked with walking humanoids for years.


      First of all, static stability means the center of gravity (CoG) is inside the base of support (the convex hull of the ground contact points).


      Dynamic stability is much more difficult to analyze because it involves stability over time. The velocities of any moving parts of an articulated body induce linear and angular momentum that can result in a dynamic stability over time _without_ having any of the intermediate poses being statically stable.


      The center of gravity absolutely _does not_ always stay above the support leg for ASIMO. If you try to freeze his pose during the middle of a step it will fall over.


      Instead, ASIMO is controlled to keep the Zero Moment Point (ZMP) always inside the convex hull of the contact points. The ZMP (related to the Center of Pressure) is the point on the contact surface where the sum of all torques (moments) is zero. For a given walking trajectory, if the ZMP always stays inside the base if support, then the walk is dynamically stable.


      There have been numerous humanoids that use the ZMP formulation to control and maintain dynamic balance while walking (e.g. Honda P2, P3, ASIMO, U. Tokyo H6, H7, AIST HRP2, Waseda Wabian 1, 2, KAIST Hubo, Toyota Partner Robots, Sony QRIO and many more). ALL of these robots are dynamically balancing and are definitely NOT statically stable.

    4. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by cheater512 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Its hardly used for support. Most robots use the cord for debugging output and to collect related data while the robot is moving.

    5. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To me, it seems the robot has bigger brain than you. You don't know anything about robotics, do you?

      I, for one, now seriously welcome our young but not stupid dynamically balancing biped robot overlords.

    6. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm even pretty sure I've seen video of a person pushing an Asimo and it reacted just fine. Even taking a step backward so that it doesn't topple over.

      It might've just been a dream tho.

    7. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The video is proof of success, and they are already making it clear its not getting any help.

      How about you reading some more, looking at some more robots-in-lab videos, trying to understand the concept of 'work in progress', and learning about 'data feed/debugging'? Come back after that, in stead of farting in our general direction?

    8. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by anagama · · Score: 3, Informative

      Watch the video again. The cords are hanging loosely and jiggle when it moves. If they were supporting him, they would obviously be taut, like an actor hanging from a wire or a kid on a swing. It makes plenty of sense for the cords to be there to provide power and transmit/receive data. Without the added weight of a battery and computer, they can work on getting the mechanism to work first, then work on getting it to work untethered under heavier weight loads later.

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    9. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by DigiShaman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Those cables are used for power and data.

      You also may have noticed a mobile frame on casters that surround the robot. Most of the time, I'm sure they connect this robot to a harness so it doesn't fall down. We're not talking about pride here. When your robot falls and breaks something, that shit gets expensive!

      Basically, this is like a child riding a bike with training wheels. Just because they are there doesn't mean they're being used all the time at that given moment.

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    10. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by vectra14 · · Score: 1

      I'm glad to hear that someone has said it. Yes, this is by far not the first dynamically balancing robot; and in this case, to be honest, i'd probably wait a bit and improve the bot's look/performance before announcing anything.

      The Sony SDR 4X/QRIO has one of the more impressive ZMP implementations that i've seen in a while. Too bad that the project got killed.

    11. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      I don't know what this project does differently than ASIMO, but it seems to do it a lot more fluidly and quickly than ASIMO does in all the videos I've seen.

    12. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by MBHkewl · · Score: 1

      I don't throw myself forward/backward to walk o_0;

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    13. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by ndogg · · Score: 1

      You're right.

      In this video, it's mentioned that both of ASIMO's feet leave the ground for 0.08 seconds. If that's not dynamic balance, I'm not sure what is.

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    14. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by archmedes5 · · Score: 1

      Actually you do, you just don't notice it.

    15. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by belliott4488 · · Score: 1

      Can you explain, then, what *is* different about this robot's balancing? It's clearly more "wobbly" than an Asimo, which leads me to conjecture that it is doing some kind of real-time closed-loop processing, whereas I'm guessing that the Asimo is open-loop. Please correct me if I'm misusing terminology - what I mean is that the Asimo appears to have been pre-programmed, using assumptions about the surface it's walking on, where as Dexter seems able to react to unpredicted real-time sensory input. Any ideas about this?

    16. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by jkuff · · Score: 1

      Anybots didn't release any information about what they are doing, but based on the video it is clear that they are doing feedback control. I have no idea why it is so wobbly other than the fact that pneumatic actuators are notoriously hard to model and control and thus some kind of overshoot in the controller is to be expected.

      ASIMO and every other successful walking robot has to use feedback control for balancing. Open-loop robots will definitely fall down after only a few steps because unmodeled errors build up quickly.

      Honda also did not release all the details of their controller, but they do have a few technical papers in robotics conferences. When ASIMO and other ZMP-based humanoids walk, they use a precomputed "walking pattern" as a reference. The pattern specifies the desired location of the ZMP over time.

      There is some limited high-level technical info here:

          http://asimo.honda.com/

          http://world.honda.com/ASIMO/technology/walking_02 .html

      As the robot walks, the six-axis force/torque sensors in the feet and the gyroscope will allow the robot to estimate the actual ZMP position. The controller will then modify the robot's posture in order to compensate for any errors between the actual and desired ZMP locations. If the controller can keep the error within some reasonable bounds, the trajectory will be dynamically stable and ther robot will not fall down.

      By the way, when ASIMO is standing still and the controller is running, if you push on its shoulders or torso, it will resist you. The feedback controller will try to keep the ZMP within the center of the base of support. It moves very smoothly.

      Hope this helps to clarify.
      -James

    17. Re:It's like falling and missing the ground by danlock4 · · Score: 1

      ALL of these robots are dynamically balancing and are definitely NOT statically stable.
      Cool. Are they stably static? ;-)
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  6. Damn it.... by gardyloo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Time to get some Old Glory Insurance, my friends.

    1. Re:Damn it.... by operagost · · Score: 1

      Lighten up. They are only here to protect you from the terrible secret of space.

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  7. Just watched the video and it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Looks like these robotics enthusiasts had a fair bit of free time on valentines day to put together the video demonstration :)

    1. Re:Just watched the video and it... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Maybe they are working towards one of these:
      Japanese Fem-Bot

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    2. Re:Just watched the video and it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But can it.... oh never mind...

    3. Re:Just watched the video and it... by callmetheraven · · Score: 1

      I saw one of those thirty years ago, only this one was wearing an Abraham Lincoln costume.

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    4. Re:Just watched the video and it... by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Hey, whatever does it for you on Valentine's Day... :)

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    5. Re:Just watched the video and it... by mikael · · Score: 1
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    6. Re:Just watched the video and it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FTA: "This Valentine's Day I saw one of the most exciting things I've seen in my life"

      Robots?! I though he was talking about getting laid.

  8. So what? by Garridan · · Score: 3, Funny

    I figured that out like, 20 years ago! Kids these days are reaching a new low. They can't even figure out how to walk without some dumb robot to teach them!

  9. Bully Robot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does he ask you to stand by the stairs so he can protect you?

  10. No. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is just you. The rest of us are actually rich and retired (of course, we took major hits at the stockmarket, but hey). So we get up and do the blonde next to us and then have the maid take care of everything. Or is that just my fantasy?

    1. Re:No. by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Funny

      of course, we took major hits at the stockmarket, but hey

            I sold short, you insensitive clod!

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    2. Re:No. by jcr · · Score: 1

      If you sold short today, you made out like a bandit.

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  11. Fine, so he wasn't pushed over by Hawthorne01 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Let's see a robot deal with handing over his lunch money or threats of a wedgie. Then we'll have something!

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    1. Re:Fine, so he wasn't pushed over by Nullav · · Score: 1

      Pfft. I'd be too busy laughing at the 'bully' for having a Segway for legs.

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    2. Re:Fine, so he wasn't pushed over by SydBarrett · · Score: 1

      Heh, it's like something robots would do at recess:

      Robot #1: Gimme yer lunch credits, shakylegs!

      Robot #2: Yo mamma's a segway!

  12. Cool by mark-t · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I immediately noticed a striking resemblance between how this robot was learning to walk and how my grandson, now 10 months old, makes regular attempts to also solve this problem for himself.

    Way cool.

    1. Re:Cool by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      This robot is cheating by starting out at a standing position. Figuring out how to get from crawling or lying down to a standing position is probably the hardest part of walking, as any baby can tell you, Including my 9 month old girl.

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    2. Re:Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Set her next to the couch.

    3. Re:Cool by Nappa48 · · Score: 1

      Your 9 month old girl can speak those words?
      Holy crap they get smarter by the generation!

    4. Re:Cool by swillden · · Score: 1

      This robot is cheating by starting out at a standing position. Figuring out how to get from crawling or lying down to a standing position is probably the hardest part of walking, as any baby can tell you, Including my 9 month old girl.

      I'm not sure I agree with this. I guess it depends on what you mean by "hard".

      Babies first learn to "stand" with assistance, and they do this for several months. At first the assistance is from an adult who holds them up so that all the baby is really doing is supporting his weight, but not balancing. Then the adult switches to just holding the baby's hands, so that the baby has to do much of the job of balancing, but the adult handles the rest and provides a safety net. Then the baby learns how to pull himself up on furniture and stand unassisted, but with a hand on the furniture for balance. Finally, they learn to let go of the furniture and balance completely unassisted. Sometimes they also learn to get up from the ground to a standing position without support, but sometimes that comes after learning to walk.

      The next step, obviously, is to start walking. That process usually doesn't take very long because it builds on the balance already learned, but it appears to take more focused effort and concentration than the previous phases. And includes more "spectacular" failures. IMO, I think it's harder than the rest, even though it's a fairly short learning curve.

      How does that compare to the robot? The robot is placed in an upright position and doesn't have to pull itself up, but it does have to balance itself on two feet, and it does have to move those feet forward while remaining dynamically stable. IMO, those are the hardest parts of what babies have to learn (with respect to walking, anyway).

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    5. Re:Cool by FuzzyDaddy · · Score: 1
      Babies first learn to "stand" with assistance, and they do this for several months

      But the damage to the parent's lower back lasts for years.

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    6. Re:Cool by mjh · · Score: 1

      Back in the day, I worked as a sysadmin in a NASA AI/Robotics Lab. Your comment reminds me of what one of the researchers said to one of the other researchers who had a child: How's your natural intelligence project coming?

      Yes, it's geeky. But it was pretty funny for a group of AI researchers.

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    7. Re:Cool by mark-t · · Score: 1

      What I thought was fascinating is that the strides it took looked so much like an infant that is learning how to walk.... slowly, one foot at a time, adjusting balance with every step using hips almost exactly the way an infant does, in a gradual endeavor to develop a rhythm.

  13. This is cool... but the claim of "first" is untrue by jkuff · · Score: 5, Informative
    This is a cool robot, but the claim of being the first "dynamically balancing robot" is an overstatement. There have been many dynamically balancing robots before, the most famous being Honda's P2 unveiled in 1997. After that, there have been dozens of walking and dynamically balancing humanoids.

    What I think the story _should_ point out that is very impressive is:

    1) The robot uses pneumatic actuators, which are notoriously difficult to model and control. Almost all of the current dynamically balancing and walking humanoids use electric motors (e.g. ASIMO).

    2) Anybots claims to have some "learning" in their controller. Although they don't have any papers about what they are doing, perhaps they are using some clever statistical modeling and feedback to adaptively control and regulate the robot's stability.

    BTW, I had a chance to meet Trevor Blackwell a few years ago when he visited my lab. He is definitely a talented engineer with a vision for the future. Several years ago he made Slashdot when he announced his homemade Segway:

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/ 28/1756241

    From my point of view, any interest by hobbyists and industry in humanoid robotics in North America is great for the field of robotics research.

  14. Dexter and Big Dog by troll+-1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is obviously a great advancement with enormous potential. But apart from aesthetics I would have thought four legs more practical than two in many circumstances.

    DARPA (the US military research folks who helped bring us the Internet) is currently funding Big Dog which I think is has far more potential, because however you calculate it, a quadruped has to have more stability than a biped. Though, in no way do I wish to detract from the achievements of Dexter.

    See Big Dog in action here.

    1. Re:Dexter and Big Dog by freeweed · · Score: 1

      Folks, if you want to see cool robotics, check out that video. Nearly every robotics achievement always seems to blah when you finally see what these robots can do. Yes, on a technical level, we've made a hell of a lot of progress (I've never managed to make a robot dynamically walk more than 2 or 3 slow steps myself, so I can appreciate just how hard this is), but on an asthetic level, they look so.. robotic. Even Asimo leaves something to be desired.

      Check this BigDog video out, it's quite amazing. It looks as close to a real animal as anything I've ever seen. Watch how it reacts when the guy tries to kick it over!

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    2. Re:Dexter and Big Dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Makes sense ... 4 legs good 2 legs bad

    3. Re:Dexter and Big Dog by drix · · Score: 1

      The two slow-mo clips of the guys kicking the robot remind me strangely of this. Ahh, nerds.

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    4. Re:Dexter and Big Dog by Falladir · · Score: 1

      Ah! That robot is scary! Why does it have to look like two skinny guys in skintight pants have their torsos stuck in the chassis? If there are two guys in there, why are they making that awful two-stroke engine sound?

    5. Re:Dexter and Big Dog by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      That's cool but it would be cooler if it was called "Multiple Use Labor Element" instead.

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  15. Fascinating by JoshJ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Watching the video, I couldn't help but notice that this lacked arms. It strikes me as rather odd to see this, because arms are one of the key features of human balance, but then again they do make for more variables.

    Regardless, this is excellent to see.

    1. Re:Fascinating by mblase · · Score: 3, Informative

      arms are one of the key features of human balance, but then again they do make for more variables.

      Yes and no. You could probably walk or run perfectly well around your house if your arms were completely limp at your sides, or tied tight behind your back, or bound to your sides somehow.

      Arms CAN improve balance by shifting your center of gravity quickly, but they're absolutely not involved in locomotion.

    2. Re:Fascinating by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      Well, you're sorta correct about all that. But try running full speed without the use of your arms. It doesn't take much to make you lose balance.

      I just wrote off the missing arms as unnecessary to help balance the baby steps the robot was taking.

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    3. Re:Fascinating by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      Watching the video, I couldn't help but notice that this lacked arms.

      I was more freaked out by the lack of hair, but I think that's just my fear of bald men acting up.

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    4. Re:Fascinating by StarfishOne · · Score: 1

      Perhaps it will run around without arms, singing: "C'mon, c'mon.. dooo the locomotion with me!" :D

      Then we could perhaps run the following scenario:

      1. Create singing, dynamically balanced bot
      2. Name it the "Kylie bot"
      3. ?!?
      4. Profit! :P

    5. Re:Fascinating by bogd · · Score: 1

      Yes, you can walk perfectly - but have you ever tried running with your hands tied behind your back? When running, the imbalances are far more frequent and more severe - and if you are unable to use your hands to regain your balance, you will quickly find yourself on your nose.

    6. Re:Fascinating by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The two robots prototype different parts of a single robot. The news article focuses on the walking system, while the "pusher" robot has the arms, head, and torso systems balancing on two wheels. I think the point is to get them working independently before putting everything together.

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  16. Looks like a precursor to the Terminator by alchemist68 · · Score: 1

    This self-balancing robot resembles the Terminator in many ways, except or course, that it can't chase me, and it doesn't have any arms. I suppose that swaying arms might actually improve balancing once it can walk faster with longer steps. Interesting work...

  17. Interesting. by wframe9109 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Ahh, the difficulties with extremely simplified simulation of the cerebellum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebellum). This is why I laugh at all the posts that crop up in neuroscience threads about emulating the brain/conscience.

    Rather off topic, but do any of you know any good sources for the current developments in neuroscience, brain and cognitive sciences, and other related fields? I studied this in school (graduated in May) and am shifting to a new field, but would really like to keep abreast of everything.

  18. Asimo's walking motion seems more natural. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Asimo has much smoother and natural walking motion no?

    1. Re:Asimo's walking motion seems more natural. by K'Lyre · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Smoother? Yes.
      Natural? Not in the least.

      Asimo doesn't walk like we do. Dexter (this new one) looks like a 10-month-old trying to learn to walk. A robot built to walk in the same vein as Asimo will never be able to walk as easily as a human does. There's way too many variables that would have to be hard coded in (as Asimo's programming is).

    2. Re:Asimo's walking motion seems more natural. by Milosch1 · · Score: 1

      True. I think the goal is to be able to make it over rough terrain and step over rocks rather than having to crush them under the weight of the robot. Then you can start attaching weapons and send them in. Dexter, keep your head low.

  19. What I'd like to see... by SendBot · · Score: 1

    I want to see that segway-footed bully bot push an asimo around, preferably down some stairs.

  20. Walk before you run by mdsolar · · Score: 1

    The article claims that this is different from ASIMO in that it is unprogrammed. Perhaps this means that the feedback from the gyro is used more directly?

    In any case, this certainly looks like my friend getting over hip replacement surgery. I wonder if one application would be in working out better models of physical therepy. Give the robot the same change in leg length and muscle weakness, see how it compensates, then have the patient imitate. The recovery buddy?

    Walk with Sun Dexter! http://mdsolar.blogspot.com/2007/01/slashdot-users -selling-solar.html

  21. Competition by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft is coming out with a robot that throws chairs.

    1. Re:Competition by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Microsoft is coming out with a robot that throws chairs.

            No word from Mr. Ballmer yet if he's going to sue for patent infringement or not...

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    2. Re:Competition by loonicks · · Score: 1

      It's even easier than that: 10 PRINT "developers " 20 GOTO 10

    3. Re:Competition by Mikkelin · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, robot chair throws Steve Ballmer.

    4. Re:Competition by Nappa48 · · Score: 1

      Oh how i lol'd, and cried.

      What actually happened with that anyway? Was it over that guy moving to Google or something? b

    5. Re:Competition by CmSpuD · · Score: 1
  22. Re:Throw away your wheelchair by K'Lyre · · Score: 0

    Yay. An Iraq war reference. Slashdot never fails. Not every topic of conversation has to lead to talking about disabled war veterans. Or maybe it does.

  23. Terrible Secret. by Bo'Bob'O · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fortunately Shover Robot is there to save him from the terrible secret of space.

    1. Re:Terrible Secret. by pappas.chris · · Score: 2, Funny

      ... I will push grandma outside into the snow... I will push snow on top of grandma... grandma is protected... grandma has gone down the stairs... I am the pusher robot, our mission is complete

    2. Re:Terrible Secret. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Am I the only one who thinks it's hillarious that they built a shover robot to push the walker around? Couldn't you just get one of the builders or even the janitor in there to give it a push?

  24. Bots getting dizzy by SamMichaels · · Score: 1

    Not sure why I thought of this and I have no experience with dynamically balanced robots...but...

    If the gyroscope and such balancing mechanisms are so incredibly sensitive, perhaps it's possible for the sensors to get overloaded from very fast movement and the robot would lose his balance. In essence, he would get dizzy.

    At this stage, I doubt you could call the robot falling in the video getting dizzy...but still, it's food for thought.

    1. Re:Bots getting dizzy by Nappa48 · · Score: 1

      Hmmm, in theory it is possible, but being a computer, its probably got lots of yummy code ready to fix "dizziness" if it ever does happen. And if not, then its probably a good idea if they were to, even know i doubt it would get dizzy from moving too fast, but it could be good research for the future!
      Yes, the future, when we are all connected in a big machine, being used as a battery. yay.

  25. Pusher Robot by zippthorne · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like that they seem to have built a whole other robot for the sole purpose of pushing the walker robot.

    Though I suppose it's necessary to protect these new inventions from the terrible secret of space.

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    1. Re:Pusher Robot by redstar427 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Initially, they just used a lab intern to push/bully the robot.
      After dozens of "tests", the first robot declared war on the human race, and had to be burned!
      It was determined that building a Pusher Robot, would save lives and money, and therefore built.

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    2. Re:Pusher Robot by Dutch_Cap · · Score: 1

      Yes, let the robots fight among themselves. Divide and conquer.

  26. neato... by lysergic.acid · · Score: 1

    reminds me of a young forrest gump for some odd reason.

  27. Obligatory by Nullav · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    But can it run Linux?

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    1. Re:Obligatory by ThomsonsPier · · Score: 3, Funny

      The question should be, "Can it run from Linux?"

  28. cool, but way not first by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The MIT Leg Lab has been doing this since the early 80s.

  29. Yes, not the first dynamically stable walker. by Animats · · Score: 5, Informative

    Kuffner (above) is right, of course. Dynamically stabilized walking has been around for years. It's not easy to do, but it's been done. Raibert first did it in the 1980s. See his book, "Legged Robots that Balance".

    Most of the self-balancing walkers, as Kuffner points out, use a ZMP-based approach. This works for walking, although it's not quite enough for effective running.

    Many of the dynamically balanced robots can rebalance after a shove. BDI's Big Dog can. So can some Japanese hobbyist robots.

    If you're not up to date on how far along Japanese hobbyist robotics has progressed, see these videos of this month's humanoid robot soccer match. These robots are mostly manually controlled, but have computers managing some functions. Many have rate gyros to assist with balance. Gradually, the computers and sensors are taking over more of the control. The hobby robotics manufacturers in Japan now have about 70% of the functionality of Asimo at 2% of the price. There are hobbyist robots with WiFi links and cameras on board. A few more improvements and you'll be able to do all the Asimo stuff with a $1500 robot. But it will only be about 60cm high.

    1. Re:Yes, not the first dynamically stable walker. by jcr · · Score: 2

      Was it Raibert that built the pogo-stick robot? I seem to remember seeing that on Nova or some show like that in the early 80's.

      -jcr

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    2. Re:Yes, not the first dynamically stable walker. by SnowZero · · Score: 1

      Yes. He founded the Leg Lab at Carnegie Mellon, and later took it to MIT where it got even more famous. Then he left for Boston Dynamics, which created the "big-dog" robot that has been on slashdot. Gill Pratt continued the MIT Leg Lab work on force-based actuation and dynamic walking for some time after that.

  30. It's the FIRST walking robot by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1, Troll

    Except for all the other first walking robots that came before it. Oops.

    Check out this video:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y6MUXv9wEcI

    It's an MIT robot doing something more than the white-boy shuffle in a lab. It's running across a grass lawn at a pretty good speed.

    This shuffle-bot looks like it'd make me a nice cup holder, and that's about it.

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    1. Re:It's the FIRST walking robot by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 1

      NICE. I provide an actual link to a previous walking robot and I'm a troll. Moderators are cunt bags, pure and simple. My scrotum has more brains than the cunny that modded me down.

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  31. What, no arms? by jhfry · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Isn't dynamically balancing easier to do with arms? Not to mention, they allow you to move faster and they can catch you if you fall.

    I'd bet it would not be too difficult, certainly not easy but compared to their work to this point it'd be trivial, to add some arms and significantly improve the robot's ability to walk... perhaps even jump and/or run... they could even have it catch itself if it falls.

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    1. Re:What, no arms? by Falladir · · Score: 2, Informative

      I think running and jumping robots are quite far away. The problem is that modern mechanical actuators can't efficiently generate the kind of power (force times speed, equivalent to energy per unit time) needed for a jump or a sprint. You could get a jump with springs coiled by a slower drive-train, but that kind of explosive, uncontrolled release would not be coordinated.

      At this point a shuffling jog is a (serious) programming challenge, but for a running or jumping robot you would need physical technology that we don't have.

    2. Re:What, no arms? by jhfry · · Score: 1

      From all appearances, the actuators used on the robot on the are plenty powerful and fast to make a small jump... I'm not thinking of replacing Michael Jordan with a bot or anything.

      Jumping takes great strength in the legs, but equally important is a good arm swing action... the arms play a tremendous roll in making a jump, as they direct a large portion of your weight in the vertical direction and they act as stabilizers in flight.

      I honestly belive that a jumping robot will come well before a jogging or running robot as the running motion results in a) a series of small jumps, and b) the legs must maintain a much faster pace. I single jump, no matter how small, would undoubtedly be easier than the controlled mahem of a run.

      On a side note... I also wonder how this new bot handles uneven terrain?

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    3. Re:What, no arms? by foniksonik · · Score: 1

      I don't see running as a problem. It's not a power problem, it's a reflex problem and this can be solved by using a spring system (two semi-curves held in opposition to each other) in addition to the servos to get them started/stopped. Basically the robot just needs to start slow and build up potential energy in the springs each time it performs a longer controlled fall, that flexes the springs and is redirected forward by the foot/ankle. At least that's how a good long distance runner does it... as little use of stored energy as possible, use reflex energy as much as possible.

      A jump is harder and sprinting way off the roadmap. Jumping needs both reflex energy and direct energy (we pump blood into the muscles to augment the reflex energy in them, then release it all at once in a concerted effort, very difficult to orchestrate). Sprinting is like a series of controlled forward jumps, so multiply the complexity several times.

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  32. Bread? by Call+Me+Black+Cloud · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Where's the bread?? What will it push down throats if not bread?

    Ok, I'm sure there's someone out there who hasn't seen it yet...
    http://www.somethingawful.com/d/icq-pranks/icq-tra nscript-space.php

    pak chooie unf

  33. It can run on the ground... by daedaldrop · · Score: 0

    ..but we at ./ are more concered with: can it run on Linux?

    1. Re:It can run on the ground... by Nappa48 · · Score: 1

      Dotslash eh? Not sure I've heard of this place before...
      Perhaps you have a link to this wonderful place?

    2. Re:It can run on the ground... by tlbtlbtlb · · Score: 1

      In fact it runs on FreeBSD, the One True Free Unix.

  34. But What's the Deal... by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...with those *shoes* the robot's wearing? Can't he at least lace them up?

  35. Walking? by TheSexican · · Score: 1

    It looks more like a Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth style shuffle than a true walk. It would probably be much cooler if it had on a pair of slippers, though.

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  36. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny
    Can it find Sarah Connor?

    </ObFarkism>

  37. Urgh by Fred+the+computer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Despite my best efforts, I cant help but apply human characteristics to Dexter the robot. I notice he (dammit! it..) has a rather ugly face, thus i'm naturally repelled by it. Stupid human brain, this is a wonderful demonstration of advanced robotics! Appreciate it! Its interesting though, logic telling me this is quite interesting, unconscious judgment saying ewww. Anyone else think along the same lines?

  38. For those who don't know the reference by LordEd · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's been several comments related to pusher/shover robots, the terrible secret of space, and "pak chooie unf". For those who don't know what these refer to, see the ICQ prank that started it and the flash animation/song inspired by it.

  39. The video was cool, but.. by openaddy · · Score: 1

    after reading the summary, I was expecting it to be pushed while it was walking. Instead it was standing around like a little punk while the other robot was trying to pick a fight or something.. "Yeah, biatch. What you gonna do about it, huh? Huh?" Pretty cool video, though.

  40. Not so impressive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can walk AND chew gum at the same time. Forward the human hegemony!

  41. the next logical step. by DragonTHC · · Score: 1

    Mr. Blackwell couldn't be reached for comment. A source close to him mentioned he was meeting with KITECH's creator of EveR-1, Baeg Moon-hong in San Marcos, CA with Abyss Creations, manufacturers of the Real Doll. While dumpster diving in Mr. Blackwell's refuse, multiple pages were found about a secret project code-named: C.H.E.R.R.Y.2000.

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  42. you would think that.. by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    having untied shoes on his feet would mean they would flap around making it harder for him to walk properly.

  43. Standing up by Skywings · · Score: 1

    Glad to finally see a robot with a bit of spine and standing up to bullies. I wish I had such a (role) model when I was a wee lad.

  44. No. by tenco · · Score: 1

    That would be flying...

  45. Does it run with ethanol? by Zaatxe · · Score: 1

    Because it looks like it's drunk!

    (hey, at least I didn't say "does it run Linux?" or "imagine a Beoulf cluster of those" and neither "In Soviet Russia, biped robots balance you!")

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  46. That's not a robot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... that's Michael Jackson in a rehabilitation center

  47. The video is awesome by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

    It looks disturbingly like a terminator prototype... a few more years of research and this thing will probably have guns for arms, and be blasting away at insurgents for us.

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  48. This can only go two ways.... by camperdave · · Score: 1

    This can only go two ways: Either we wind up with death matches, or robots with psychological problems.

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  49. That bully's a pussy! by brunes69 · · Score: 1

    From the looks of that vid, one quick roundhouse kick would put that robot's face in the sand.

    He'll I'd hate to see what Jack Bauer could do to it!

  50. Obligatory "Yes, but.." by Sigg3.net · · Score: 0

    Can he find Sarah Connor?

  51. Saturn 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  52. Yeah, but... by paranatural2002 · · Score: 1

    Can it Moonwalk? Our robots are still decades behind us in fad-dancing technology.

    1. Re:Yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It can't moonwalk yet, but I hear it can do the robot.

  53. Bad jokes are boring. by xenn · · Score: 1

    (hey, at least I didn't say...

    that was a thinly veiled attempt to actually say those three tired and repetitive jokes. Bad Nerd. Bad bad nerd, you ought to be punished.

  54. Similarity To Scary Robot From Film by mdb303 · · Score: 1

    That robot reminds me, to a somewhat alarming extent, of Hector in Saturn 3.

  55. its not the first. by PermanentMarker · · Score: 1

    Its not realy the first altough probaply the best currently.
    I've seen a 2 feet biped robot with face made of a bucket a year ago walking on 2 feets with dynamic stablity.
    It was some kind of Dutch robot, at the same time there where some Americans also in this project and made their own biped. If i remind it well the Dutch was a more adeptive free walker, it was larger too but quite thin also.
    It was strange to see then, as it is now

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  56. Your tin-foil hat is coming apart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Proof. Conspiracies. Lies. Chicanery.

    You need help.

  57. TU Delft, Netherlands has this already? by Tjeerd · · Score: 1
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  58. Chewing gum by yet+another+coward · · Score: 1

    The robot can chew gum, but not at the same time.

  59. Should nickname him Magical Trevor by Mathness · · Score: 1

    Should nickname him Magical Trevor, 'cause the tricks he does are ever so clever.

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  60. More appropriately by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I, for one, welcome our new robot bully overlords.