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$90,000 103in HDTV
An anonymous reader writes "Found this review of Panasonic's 103in plasma. Not only is the screen itself massive, but the price tag comes close to $100,000! I guess if you can afford a room big enough to house it, you can afford the TV. "
Really, at that price, getting a $20,000 projector and setting up a rear projection screen system would be better. I mean, you could use the $70,000 saved to buy a handful of Blu-Ray(TM) DVD's!
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The reviewer doesn't seem to mention whether he got to keep it or not...
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seriously, the plasma market is starting to remind me of the travel channel's luxury home shows ("more and more americans are buying homes like these".. yeah right)
how about a bridge in the gap between teeny tiny (and way too expensive for that size), and "OMG XBOX HUEG" (and out of reach of the average person).
the "cheap" models at walmart start at 900 and go up from there, and if you actually want color fidelity youre looking at a minimum 1500.
how long have these flat tvs been on the market? i seem to remember them advertised 8 years ago, so where the heck are the AFFORDABLE ones!
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The installers were testing the machine when their union mandated coffee break came up. By the time they punched their clock and returned to work, the test image of "PANASONIC" has been burnt in. So very sad....
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when you go to radio shack, and for $19.95, you get a can of paint and some sort of gadget. you go home, stick the gadget to the wall (your interface), then paint a rectangular area on the wall next to the gadget. the paint consists of self-aligning chemicals that when dry, creates a television
it really isn't far fetched nanotechnology, the requisite advances in semiconducting polymers means the concept is not that far off. since they already have electronic paper, liquid crystals displays are well established, and OLEDs are coming on the scene now, technologies getting close to the "paint your own tv" concept, chemically and technically at least, i really don't think this concept is that far off
think about it: at the factory where they make OLEDs/ liquid crystal displays/ electronic paper, there is a fabrication process. that fabrication process merely assembles the requisite pixels into a proper grid. someone, somewhere, will make this process automatic, like crystallization/ polymerization, so all you need is for it to "dry" after applying it to a flat surface
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It's hard for me to understand why anyone would actually shell out the ridiculously high sticker price for this thing considering that you can have a really excellent 103" front projection apparatus for no more than $20,000, and if you shop right or are willing to forego 1080p you can do it for under $10,000. Sure, you have to design the room it's placed in such that you reduce or even eliminate ambient light for optimum viewing contrast, but given how much you save from not getting the "My God, It's Full of Stars" plasma screen you can probably hire professionals to do it for you and pocket the difference.
Perhaps the base is weighted with $10 bills (£5 notes?). That would explain the price to me more effectively.
I mean, I know there are people who extoll the virtues of plasma over all other display types, but seriously.
Wow you can't hang that on a wall, unless you have a wall that can hang a refrigerator.
Also, my 46" throws off a noticeable amount of heat. This unit might need some custom ventilation.
a couple of things to remember here:
1) $90,000 is the price after currency conversion and VAT (UK's 17.5% "Sales tax"). Without VAT, the TV is $78,000 in a pure currency converted price.
2) This is only the price with a currency change. Some products don't fluctuate much, but many things are ridiculously expensive in the UK when compared against the same product in the US. Judging by the pricing on the UK Top Gear, for example, cars are often $10K-$15K more for the same product. Computers are a little more reasonable, but you can still find a huge difference. The 30GB iPod (US $250), for example, is $355 US dollars at today's rate.
It is refreshing to see a jumbo plasma TV that isn't a low-res, corporate boardroom model, though. I only wonder how much juice this thing sucks down.
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They just wait for inflation to catch up.
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Convention Hall: maybe. Stadium, no.
At 2:1 aspect ratio this comes in right around 8' X 4'. Not for big events.
(a 103" diagonal is *very different from a 180)
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It dwarfs the mighty redwoods and it towers over everyone
I still remember when that delivery truck came down our block
What a lucky guy, I hear he got the last one in stock
And the neighbors are just green
They say, That's the biggest screen we've ever seen!
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That would be a nice replacement for my window.
If you were wondering (this is Slashdot, after all), according to the manufacturers specs, this beast consumes 1500W (!) of power. Any ideas what a comparable CRT would consume?
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1. 103" HDTV Plasma: $90,000
2. Ferrari car: $1,000,000
3. Watching aftermath from a too frantic Wii car game: Priceless.
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These TVs should come with a free Wii! *evil laugh*
Sure it's great to have a big image, but if it's still 1920x1200, the quality is no better than my 24" screen on my pc. I'll be impressed when the pixels size remains the same and they add more of them to make the screen bigger. Also, where's my 300dpi lcd screens?
Can I hook it up to my computer? 103' of frag-filled glory!
And, with the right stereo equipment, a "HEADSHOT" will blow out every window in my house!
Lets see: 67" Samsung HDTV with HDMI, 10000:1, and full 1080p = $3000 $90,000 / $3,000 = 30 67" TVs I think I will stick with the 30 67" tvs instead of one tv that is 36" bigger. I can even stand all my tv is a tv wall 5x5 and get 335" square. Oh yeah, now that is a nice tv. When that 103" gets down to a resonable $5,000 let me know.
$100.000 doesn't sound too expensive for some people since I know at least 1 person who paid $80.000 to Barco CRT projector alone and there were THX guys setting up/validating the audio for his private cinema at his ranch. I guess it may have hit $250.000 for full setup.
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I heard he was using 35mm+(Cinema) DTS before and that was "full" digital upgrade. I didn't follow but I am sure he will be interested in Digital Cinema when tests are over.
Sound mad? Well, you can buy a $1M Lombarghini (taxes) and get stuck in Istanbul traffic behind a bus, which one sounds logical?
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I saw a Panasonic 103" 1080P TV when I was in Japan in the end of March. According to the price tag it was named TH-103PZ600, and cost 5,600,000 Yen, which would be about 47000 USD. I have a photo of the price tag right here if you want to look for yourself. With that kind of outrageous difference in price, I'd go get it from Japan if I were in the market for that TV.
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My DLP is an internal projector onto a 50" panel. Why can't they put 9 of those, 3x3, inside the case, closely registered at their edges? Maybe a video sensor feeding back images of the internal corners where 4 tiles meet, piezos positioning them to accomodate thermal flexing of their common mounting brackets.
I'd like a 4800x3600 display, whether it's 50" or 190". And if the projector could go into a focusable lens, instead of the fixed one in the case, it could project to practically any size on an external screen.
The one I've got costs only about $1200. Why can't it scale up for $5000 to be bigger? And why shouldn't it scale up better than linearly (shared components) to nearly any size?
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Plasma screens are only rated for 3600 hours of viewing time before they deteriorate below spec and the manufacture won't replace the glass. Based on this, we computed that you loose $0.41 a minute watching this set.
My boyfriend and I recently got a 61" DLP (which he NEEDED because he bought a PS3). According to both the manual and our experience, you should sit 7' to 10' away for optimal viewing pleasure. Sitting closer results in having to turn your head to follow the action (as well as the color looking a little off); this makes you very aware you are watching TV, ruining immersion. I don't really know how to go about the math for this, but it seems like you'd have to be something like 20" away to view anything properly on such a huge screen. So not only do you have to have a wall wide enough and tall enough to fit the thing on, the room needs to be long enough to sit that far away. As someone mentioned, this might not be a problem since a person who can afford this probably has the space for it, but it still makes my brain hurt a little.
Another impracticality that springs to mind is that this isn't even a very good investment- what's the average life of a plasma screen? Could you go back to a relatively normal size TV after you've had this, or will you be shelling out $90,000 every 5 years or so? At least our "little" DLP will still be usable in 10 years. We might have to spend $300 on a light bulb for it, but we'll be able to see the picture.
Here's some math I can do: for the same amount of money, you could buy 30-40 61" TVs and put one on every wall; which would be kind of scary but pretty awesome. (And on a moral, "isn't there anything worthwhile you could do with your obscene sums of money?" note, I looked up one of those sponsor-a-child charities I see on TV and you could sponsor 312 children for one year, or 20 children for 15 years each, or of course one child for 312 years. I am *NOT* judging anyone, I just got to thinking about the numbers.)
I can't deny it would be cool to have, but for several reasons I can't imagine buying one, even if I could afford to.
is the ability to drop six figures for a device that does little more than allow people to advertise to me while wasting my time. I wonder how it would work out as a monitor? Because after having ditched television over 15 years ago, I am not about to pick up the habit again.
This mostly looks like a commercial product for a convention hall or stadium
I'm too lazy to do all the math (it's Monday and I'd get it wrong anyway, I'm a moron on Mondays), but apparently less lazy than the submitter or the parent. That's eight and a half feet diagonal, how wide is it? Five feet?
From TFS: I guess if you can afford a room big enough to house it, you can afford the TV.
I live in a $52,000 house (no mansion!) and an eight foot diagonal screen would fit in there. That TV would be SWEEEEET in my little living room!
From TFP: One local store has one about 15' (180") diagonal
That's what, ten feet wide or so? That would fit too, but it would be like being in the front row at a theater.
Or maybe not - how big would the pixels be on a screen that big? Even on a hidef TV?
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As someone who used to work in a TV repair shop I wonder what the repair procedures for these behemoths are going to be. People already get really bent out of shape when a shop has to take the TV to their facilities for repair; and it seems as if the larger the TV the more upset they become (of course I'm well aware that this may be because when they buy the "extended warranty" from the salesperson at Best Buy, et al, they are promised "in-home servicing" but soon find that there almost is no such thing - many troubleshooting issues exist which simply cannot be resolved at the customer's house. But that's a whole other thread of discussion by itself). Also, what of the logistics involved in transporting this beast to the repair shop? Just how light or heavy is this thing? I ask because most TV shops that are lucky enough to be able to provide such a service have (at best) 2 men and a small, "U-Haul" type delivery truck, which (in most cases) may not be spacious enough to accomodate such a large screen. Also, many of the customers I've encountered loved to place their widescreen TV's in some of the darndest places (usually on the 2nd floor higher and around some tight corners). Since placing a TV in such precarious locations can increase the chances of damage being done to the TV or the house when moving said appliance most TV shops will actually refuse to even consider touching a TV in that situation (mine was one of them). These are situations which, in my experience, a large number of customers simply never consider when buying these outsized TV's.
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Seems cheaper to buy 4 50inch LCD's and drive them with your SLI config. Not to mention, I am sure such a screen has GIANT ghosts ;)
1) Buy a 50" plasma and sit closer!
2) Buy 4 42" plasmas for each person in your family so everyone can sit closer.
For my laserdisc player. Those DVD's will never catch on you know.
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Based on the power consumption of a typical 3 tube rear projection LCD at 52" and multiplying by 4. Plasma does provide a wider viewing angle too, which does justify some of the extra power.
Apologies in advance before I get modded through the basement. The numbers are correct though.
Ummm... my 3 room apartment has enough for our 100inch TV (projector, duh) and my maggie MMG speakers! I wish I could afford this thing (not!)
...great so they just smash it and laugh at you... then you have no way of finding them.
Seriously though, 10 grand and you could kill this thing and have it look better with projection.
And thief proof?
watching pr0n on that could make me psycho...
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I've seen one of these in person and played around with it a bit, so I guess I'm pretty much obliged to comment...
Yes, it is ridiculously huge, just bit over 2.6 metres from corner to corner.
It's also not a TV, it's just a monitor. From what I was told it takes both VGA and DVI inputs, and it has an RS232 port for controlling brightness etc.
HD looks great on it, the colours are good, and you can easily view it from almost 90 degrees to the side without any real loss of color or contrast. Then again, you really have to be at least 3 or 4 metres away from it to be able to see the whole image comfortably.
There are 12 (yes, twelve!) fans on the back of it to provide cooling, which I guess you need every bit you can get of, considering the monitor uses 1500 watts when in use.
I think their target market is high-end home cinemas, but at that price and at that power usage, I would think an HD projector would be more economical. The monitor is useful in daylight though, you can't really say that for most projectors.
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"I guess if you can afford a room big enough to house it, you can afford the TV."
Yeah, it's real hard housing a 4' x 7.5' TV.
The only thing that keeps plasma tech. going is the uneducated masses who don't understand technology.
The price, power consumption, relatively low native pixel count, image quality and physical weight of a plasma when compared to LCD is crazy.
This massive tv is totally redundant when comapared to a front projector at a 10th of the price which could give an even (much) bigger screen at the same image quality.
If you are going to spend that much on a TV, why not buy a decent project TV for slightly more.
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The Sony Pro 4K SRX-R110S can do up to 4096 x 2160. High contrast ration and 10,000 ANSI lumen gives quite the impressive result. I witnessed this during the Electronic theater at Siggraph last year where one of the animations was shown at the projector's native resolution. The difference between what I thought was good, HDTV's 1080p, and the full 4096x2160 was stunning.
The SRX-R110S only costs about $125,000
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The best we can hope for is that we can go to Canadian Tire and buy a pre-painted wall, that only needs a day's work to trim to fit our actual house.
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No, I don't want this one. I want an OLED TV. No, make that a LASER TV. Just a little longer....
Even Better. $2500 (720P) - $7500 (1080P)
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Front projection technology has made *amazing* progress over the years. Just imagine giant screen plasmas. They are that good. And you can have the screen almost as big as you want without having to deal with a heavy ass tv.
107" Dalite Hi Power screen can be had for about $500.
720 Front Projector Panasonic $2000 (I've got this one)
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1080 Front Projector JVC DLA $7000
http://projectorcentral.com/jvc_dla-rs1.htm
someone on the screen sneezes? You'd have to change your shirt.
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I actually went to the article and this is what greeted me: http://www.trustedreviews.com/images/article/summa ry/4414.jpg
This pup doesn't look that big to me!
I guess if you can afford a room big enough to house it, you can afford the TV.
So I guess my apartment must be pretty damn huge and expensive for me to have the 100" projector screen?
Something tells me that lifespan is going to be rather important with TVs of this size. Given the difficulty in installing the thing, I could anticipate that some people will expect them to last 30-40 years. (I would also anticipate that such TVs will be installed while a house is being constructed.
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I feel compelled to point out that we're now roughly 5% of the way to Frank's 2000-inch TV.