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Ubuntu Feisty Fawn Released
Lots of readers told us about the official release of Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn (screenshots here for Ubuntu and Kubuntu). Some readers report that the distribution servers are being hammered. Here is a review of Feisty Fawn. Reader LinuxScribe sends us to LinuxPlanet for the story on a pleasant Java surprise in the release.
Here is a quick mirror: (ftp also works) http://ftp.ussg.indiana.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/ 7.04/ maintained by http://www.ussg.iu.edu
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Go ahead, take our bandwidth
Does that mean they removed it?
Don't bother with the official sites - I think they must be running Ubuntu Sluggish Slug Server Edition! Kidding aside, there are a myriad of torrent options.
Our good friend Don Imus has some suggestions for future Ubuntu releases.
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Busty Beaner
Crackhead Coon
Ditzy Darkie
Eerie Earfucker
Fisting Feminazi
Grubby Goombah
Horny Ho
Irate Inky
Jumping Jigabo
Kinky Kike
Lame Limey
Morose Moolie
Nappy Nigger
Obscene Oreo
Puny Popolo
Quiet Queer
Reeking Rafter
Sleazy Spic
Tipsy Tranny
Ugly UncleTom
Venomous Velcrohead
Wretched Whigger
Xenophobic Xena
Yellow Yenta
Zany Zebra
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Yes Linux has come a long way in desktop features and the other things that make up a desktop environment, but I just don't understand how Linux desktop UIs still can't manage to get spacing, font/text placement and alignment, shading, and all the other details that make OS X so instantly appealing to so many people, regardless if they want to are able to pay for Macs of their own to use.
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Just compare:
http://shots.linuxquestions.org/scaled/Ubuntu%207
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I just don't understand how there can remain such a huge gap in the attention to detail and refinement with Linux desktops and apps. Have Linux developers never used Interface builder and it's alignment spacing tools or ever really sat down with a Mac and gone over the various OS X UI parts to understand how and why the feel and work so well?
I have just update my 6.10 vmware image running on my win xp to 7.04. Runs great. If you want to try to upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 open a terminal and enter :-D
gksu "update-manager -c -d" and follow instructions. As always, back up your computer fist.
Help alleviate the load: use the torrents.
"I think it would be a good idea!"
Gandhi, about Internet Security
I already heard this from Michael Dell.
What I'm listening to now on Pandora...
(Of course, it'll be a Gazelle, but hey.)
Meta will eat itself
Whatever we think about this man, we should thank him to have launched the Ubuntu Project. This is the first Linux distro that have the potential to succeed on the Desktop and to get some decent market share beside Windows and MacOS.
Hmm.. google impaired:
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https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesy
http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/net/libnss-ldap
http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/admin/libpam-ld
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
My Babylon
Based on the review this is worth upgrading to - but what are the system requirements like? 6.06 is just usable on my 196 meg RAM laptop, will this push it over the edge?
Incidentally, how come SAMBA isn't included by default? This bit me recently when trying to move files between 2 networked (but not on the internet) computers.
I quit!
On freenode,
:)
#ubuntu = 1600 users
#ubuntu-release-party = 850 users
In the last hour, these have both gone up by around 100-200 each. 24hrs ago, #ubuntu-release-party had 20 people.
Apparently this is a new record for the freenode IRC network!
Forget whether or not ubuntulinux.org can remain online, everyone start praying for the poor folk at freenode
The release was officially announced on the mailing list moments ago. Here is the link:
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https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce
I'm excited about this release mainly because UbuntuStudio was supposed to come out with Feisty. I'm looking forward to having a maintained and stable realtime kernel for audio work
My posts are definitive. Reality is frequently inaccurate.
I think it is. Linux geeks have a powerful love for Ubuntu (I know, being one myself). Personally, i think ubuntu is the best shot Linux has at the desktop market in any way. It's easier to set up and run that any windows and doesn't lack any features. As long as you're willing to actually USE the internet and look for answers to your questions, you're in luck. And to be fair, technical support in ubuntu (at the publuc forums) is vastly superior to windows tech support (I admin both OS's and linux is easier to get help with by far). So there's a reason for the ubuntu love, certainly. But with Vista just out, any new linux dostro story is bound to spark flames.
and the next one...
Bring on Version 9: Hungry Hungry Hippo!
Summation 2
Ah, please can you take your self-righteousness and shove it up your ass?
"It is our choices, Harry, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." -- Prof. Dumbledore
Well said and sad. The cheat of Linux distros. Way too easy to get it working...
Whether you agree with what the Ubuntu project is doing or not, there is nothing sneaky about it. They have never tried to hide what they are doing.
Many of us, including me, have been asking for a long time for a distribution that fucking works. One that does things, out of the box, that every other operating system does. And we frankly don't care if that means that we have to run closed software today. Because as we have seen, the existence of closed software on Linux does not prevent people from working on open alternatives to it. The existence of free-as-in-beer Java hasn't stopped people from working on free-as-in-speech implementations (and as you point out, Java is on its way to Freedom.) The existence of the free-as-in-beer nVidia drivers isn't stopping work on an alternative.
Ubuntu is doing what a sizable slice of the community has asked them to do, and your complaining about it is ridiculous. Complain about the users if you like.
And stop complaining about the lack of Ubuntu-distributed new features. Even if no one "at" Ubuntu ever fixed a bug, which frankly is not required by the Open Source model, they do a shitload to coordinate it, and they have done more to package Linux for the end user than anyone else.
Finally, Ubuntu is going to be bringing out an entirely-Free distribution. So I'm not really sure what you're bitching about. If Free software can't compete on its own merits, then it deserves to lose.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Yeah everybody knows linux should stay pushing philosophies instead of actually work. Who needs users anyways?
Copyright infringement is "piracy" in the same way DRM is "consumer rape"
I don't like Java too much but I really think that although ubuntu may be rushing it (since Java has not been GPLed yet) linux and Java may make a great alliance, let's face it, linux has the issue that windows programs don't work on it, even with WINE there are issues sometimes, and Java's main selling point (cross platform-ness ) doesn't quite work with the current operating system monopoly situation. The only thing we needed to start improving the situation was a distribution that comes with sun's Java installed by default, these are great news.
Copyright infringement is "piracy" in the same way DRM is "consumer rape"
If you download the Alternate Install CD, you can choose where to install grub. Install it to a floppy or usb drive and you can use that file with the windows boot loader. This way if you want to remove the Ubuntu partitions in the future you won't have to worry about fixing the boot loader. It's been a while since I've done this, but this looks about right: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=56723
I don't want to sound harsh because I believe you're genuinely concerned, but I think you're wrong. Ubuntu is providing non-free packages for some things because it's what people want. People want the ability to get easy 3D accelleration for their video cards, and the open source drivers don't do it, so Ubuntu provides the ability to install the non-free drivers easily.
And yes, "what people want" matters. Making it easy for people to get good performance from their computers will win converts to Linux. As Linux's share of the market grows, there's an increasing chance that various companies will support linux in various ways. The more people are using Linux on their desktop and the more people want 3D accelleration for their desktop, the more likely it is that someone (maybe even Nvidia and AMD) will actually produce Free drivers.
I don't want to sound harsh because I believe you're genuinely concerned, but I think you're wrong.
Fair enough. Thanks for the rational post. I think you're completely wrong though. By providing what some people want Ubuntu is cannibalizing the market and making it easier for hardware vendors (and arguably in this case Sun) to continue to provide hardware that works inadequately with Linux. Just because a large number of people might be able to get a short-term gain (my nVidia card will now do 3D with this particular version of the driver that will break when the next kernel update is released and may be unsupported in the future because there's no source code). I don't see this as morality, I see it as a practically self-defeating strategy by one Linux distro which is undermining the whole basis on which Linux manages to exist: Free/Open source code.
I realise that what I'm going to say sounds harsh and isn't an option for people with a work requirement for CAD or whatever, but it's possible to buy hardware for wireless, video etc that is completely supported by Free/Open drivers. Other hardware should be sold to Windows users or else junked, it's not that expensive to buy replacements and the actual cost of maintaining it by undermining the pressure to release specs is ultimately going to see us in the same position years down the road
sources : blog 1, blog 2
I already have all of these setup on Edgy, so I won't upgrade.
ubuntu is making vast progress in the arena of raising awareness and usage of free software in the general public. In what way is it parasitic? Ubuntu runs at a loss, held up by shuttleworth's own money. For the first time ever, because of the work ubuntu have put in, I now feel the slightest twinges of comfort in recommending the use of linux to a non technical person.
Fair enough if the FSF want to be purist about their approach, but no one else is obliged to, and no one who is obeying the licensing terms of the software they distribute can ever be accused of being underhanded or parasitic.
(1.21 gigawatts) / (88 miles per hour) = 30 757 874 newtons
name a package that is included on the CD that is not free software. all the non free stuff has to be downloaded through apt-get.
(1.21 gigawatts) / (88 miles per hour) = 30 757 874 newtons
The only problem I can forsee is setting up MythTV to work with my Radeon AIW. Either way it should make for a fun weekend project!
If by "fun weekend project," you mean "experience that will make you curse computers, question your own sanity, and shake your fist at God for not having struck you down with a well-placed lightning bolt before you set forth on this foolhardy endeavor," then yeah, sure, it might be a fun weekend project.
But seriously, if you want MythTV to work, and work well, get hardware that's well supported. Hauppauge PVR-x50 MPEG-2 encoder cards and Bt848 framebuffer cards [1] are your friends; all others your enemy. Low-end NVidia cards with S-Video out are also probably the best way to avoid wanting to kick the computer.
Unless you put a very, very low value on your time, the cost of the hardware will be insignificant compared to the effort involved in getting poorly-supported gear working with MythTV. I've been down that road. Six weeks worth of work later, I just tossed it all into the parts bin and went out and bought a PVR-150, a Streamzap, and a cheap eVGA NVidia card with S-Video out that was listed as being on the "A" list for Knoppmyth compatibility. With that, it was a weekend project.
[1] The HDHomeRun is pretty slick, too, if you want HD. It's the most painless way to get dual HD tuners.
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So far all the ATI cards upto and including the r300 chipsets, the nvidia cards now supported by the nouveau project (which is very recent) include up to the geforce 8800 (IIRC). You can see the details at free3d.org
The latest Intel G965 chipsets also include an integrated video chip GMA X3000 which is apparently beefy enough to do stuff like Compiz/Bery, Tuxracer just fine.
anything that forces hardware vendors to support Linux on more desktops is more likely to lead to more adequate drivers. That's verifiably an unsupported idea. The Linux-only market is a tiny fraction of the Windows market and its a waste of ATI/Nvidia's time to put enough engineers on it. That's why their proprietary drivers suck and why the nouveau guys were irritated enough to start trying to write one themselves. Ubuntu is relieving any pressure there might be on these manufacturers and thus actually penalising manufacturers like Intel who have taken the risk of opening up their specs completely.
You're so far off your rocker that you don't even know where your porch is.
Every time I hear someone go off on how free-as-in-beer software is evil and corrupts the precious open-source movement, I just want to smack my forehead in disgust.
It's the usability, stupid.
It's about turning your computer into something productive, so it's not a paperweight with blinking lights. Ubuntu has made more headway in organizing a usable system than RedHat, Mandrake, and Debian combined. It is really the first distro that nearly everyone can use.
Now, about your comments that it is "parasitic", I think you're confused even further. If nothing else, Ubuntu is a way to increase the user base of the software which you say it doesn't contribute to. It gets Linux, Open Office, Xorg, and thousands of other softwares into the hands of people who would never have known there was another alternative to Microsoft otherwise. And you decry it because it encourages people to have choice. You insult the very software that could very well be the cause of manufacturers opening drivers, or if not providing open drivers, perhaps providing working binary drivers, ala NVidia. But then, you're against that, too. To fanatical egotistic closed minded people like yourself, having a binary driver in your kernel would sully it somehow, rendering it unfit to use, so instead you install semi-working drivers provided by people who have reverse engineered the hardware and bitch about how for-profit companies refuse to give away their trade secrets.
Get over yourself. It's not a paragon of virtue and selflessness. It's a fucking kernel. That's it.
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Don't people understand that when you put the .torrent file on the same server as the iso's if one is being hammered the other get's killed too.
:(
.torrent file.
K XV
So....your mirrors are breaking. Yea! Bittorrent saves the day! Lets put the torrent file on the SAME SERVER that's currently melting down. That will fix it.
So your torrent servers don't get killed post the Magnet URI so that people can join the torrent independent of the accessibility of the
Here is the Ubuntu 7.04 i386 desktop
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:DMDDBZV4X4NWSEHVEBBZHSMFY4GHD
Note Slashdot has a problem with Magnet URI's there is NO space between the last K and XV
There will likely never be good drivers for the best video cards for Linux until there is a large installed base of users in the market for those video cards on Linux.
There will likely never be a large installed base of Linux users until a distribution hits the market that is a viable alternative to windows for most tasks.
It's really a chicken-egg problem.
If you want to wage jihad with the closed-software community, you have the option of going with a variety of different distributions that are much more focused on that.
If, instead, you want to build the very best Linux desktop you can, you do what Ubuntu is doing. Politics be damned. The people who view free software as religion or political platform tend to block it into a corner that will always relegate it to a niche market in the view of the general public. At the end of the day, the vast VAST majority of users could care less about whether the driver is close-sourced, or open sourced or anything in between. They care mostly that it works, and secondly that it costs them nothing in terms of time and money to make it work. Ubuntu is aimed at those users. Those users are the ones who will have to use Linux to get it out of the niche. And once it becomes a sizable portion of the market, we will see better drivers.
Try Beryl/Compiz. Makes the GUI as flashy and pretty as you like and your machine can handle. MUCH nicer and FAR more configurable than OS X. Currently only works with Nvidia and Intel graphics adapters, AFAIK.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
Especially, note that 6.06 cannot be directly upgraded to 7.04, you need to go to 6.10 first*. You might be quicker doing a backup and reinstalling.
* At least with the (recommended) automatic tool. If you know what you are doing, you can likely upgrade directly with the manual tools. You will need some knowledge though. (aptitude dist-upgrade, dpkg --force-things, and apt-get -f install are your friends. It won't be pretty)
"When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
Ubuntu widens the market for Linux by providing a distribution that people can actually use.
As a result, it strengthens the push for Free software, because most Linux software is Free.
Ubuntu is the first Linux distribution to include an automated crash reporting tool, which feeds more useful bug reports into the system, which is a benefit to all. And the entire system, including aggregation of these crash reports, was built and is maintained and run by Ubuntu.
Finally, Ubuntu is using software in accordance with its licensing, so really no one has room to bitch. If you want to force people to contribute back changes, then put something about that in the license of the software you develop, and quit bitching. Let peace begin with me, and all that.
What software have you written and released under an OSI-approved license? What patches have you written and released (and had accepted) for Free software?
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
I like using Linux but it is too much work too often. The easier it is for me to get a desktop running, the more likely I'll use it. Ideals are great, but without enough marketshare Linux won't demand the attention of hardware makers. With a larger marketshare and the continued persistence of people like you, Linux will get more free hardware support.
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On windows you're likely running the Sun Java Virtual Machine.
On Linux you may unknowingly be using the free Gnu implemenation of Java (gcj). Install the Sun JVM and try running from that one instead.
In my experience the Sun JVM on Linux is better than the Sun JVM on windows, but the Sun JVM on windows is faster than gcj on Linux.
That said, I applaud the efforts by the gcj guys big time.
"If they have both, tell them we use Linux. And if they have that, tell them the computers are down." -Dave Chapelle
Um, in Ubuntu you're NOT always admin. There is no way to log in as root in Ubuntu. The first user you create gets sudo priveledges automatically, and the "root" account inherits the password of the first user account you create. From then on, any user you create does not have any escelated priveledges whatsoever. The idea behind this is that you use the first account you created to administer, therefore enforcing the idea that you should never log in as root or run anything unnecessary as root, and then you use your other accounts for normal work/play. The reason behind this is that novices are used to the idea of logging in under a seperate account to admin stuff, and so that other users do not have a method of doing any of this stuff, even accidentally.
Twinstiq, game news
Off the top of my head, it was something like:
Warty Warthog (4.10)
Hoary Hedgehog 5.04
Breezy Badger 5.10
Dapper Drake 6.06
Edgy Eft 6.10
Feisty Fawn 7.04
[Next: Gutsy Gibbon 7.10, though Glossy Gnu was considered]
Release dates are every 6 months, except in the case of Dapper Drake. Version numbers are Y.MM, so you can calculate back from today.
I am posting this from the same computer on which currently Ubuntu is installing. Beat that, windows!
Open Source Alternatives
If you go to http://ubuntuguide.org/ you can find a replacement for '/etc/apt/sources.list' which contains sources for all the non-free stuffs you'd want.
Great resource, I have it bookmarked.
David
The PS3 needs an OpenGL library that either runs on the Cell SPE(s), or calls functions on the RSX. So far, Sony has locked out the RSX, and I doubt they'll let (unlicensed) Linux apps compete with their licensed products by tapping the RSX (which is unique to PS3, and 9x as fast as the Cell). So really what's needed is OpenGL running on SPEs.
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make install -not war
At present Ubuntu is encouraging people to ignore the problem of video-driver support, to purchase broken crap from nvidia and to penalise Intel by not selecting their boards and integrated cards.
That's so not true
"When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
"When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns
iPod: works out of the boxt s/iTunesMusicStore
DigiCam: the very vast majority works out of the box (and simpler than Windows, plugging it in opens a management app)
iTunes: complain to Apple and/or help her a bit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedForma
Multimedia: 7.04 will prompt you and offer to install support for proprietary codecs. DVD needs a tiny bit of help: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
"When I first heard Daydream Nation it quite frankly scared the living shit out of me." -- Matthew Stearns