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Kotaku Games Blog Sued By Jack Thompson

Reacting to Kotaku's coverage of comments Thompson made last week about the VA Tech incident, Thompson has sued Kotaku and their parent company Gawker media. He also tried to sic the FBI on them (getting as much success there as he did with the Penny Arcade gents). From GamePolitics' coverage: "Thompson's ire was apparently raised by Kotaku reader comments which the attorney maintains are threatening. He also alleges in the complaint that Kotaku and Gawker declined to remove the menacing posts. The messages in question stem from Kotaku's coverage of Thompson's claims that video games prompted last week's Virginia Tech massacre. The Gawker suit is actually an amendment to an action Thompson filed on March 13th against the Florida bar. On April 11th he amended it to include the members of the Florida Supreme Court. And now Gawker joins the list of defendants."

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  1. Self Sacrifice? by Tofystedeth · · Score: 4, Funny

    amendment to an action Thompson filed on March 13th against the Florida bar. Last I heard from JT's publicity was that he was still a member in good standing of the Florida bar. Maybe they should just let him win and then vote for him to pay all the fees....
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  2. Legal Precedent by Manos_Of_Fate · · Score: 5, Funny

    I bet this is the first time someone has ever used the phrase, "the chances are slim to none, and Slim just left town." in a Legal filing before.

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    1. Re:Legal Precedent by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I prefer the Army of Darkness bit, "You ain't leading but two things right now: Jack and shit, and Jack left town." It even uses the name Jack. He hasn't left town yet, but suing the bar that accredits you is a good way to get a swift ass-kicking. If he is disbarred there will be parties at gamers' houses across the world, let alone the country. For good or ill, and whether the rest of the world will admit it or not, the American media has a huge effect damned near everywhere, and JT has been huge in our media.

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    2. Re:Legal Precedent by acvh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      could be. IBM recently quoted Lewis Carroll in a filing in the SCO case. of course, the rest of their filing actually reads like it was composed by intelligent life forms, in contrast to Thompson's, which is more or less the equivalent of a blogger in his parent's basement (no offense, slashdotters...)

  3. Translation: by markbt73 · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Waah! Your readers were mean to me!"

    If only all the nutjobs were as easily dismissable as Jack.

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    1. Re:Translation: by doubleofive · · Score: 5, Funny

      Watch your mouth, or Slashdot will be next on his agenda!

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    2. Re:Translation: by Barny · · Score: 2, Informative

      Why is it people who play wow always consider any general mmog phrase must have originated with their game?

      I heard QQ used in daoc over 4 years ago, and in IRC further back than that, its just a slang term for text chat :)

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    3. Re:Translation: by Workaphobia · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In a way, Jack is difficult to dismiss, because the tools we normally use to do so are sarcasm and parody. But how on Earth do you parody a man who is so unreal, so orthogonal to the plane of right/wrong and coherence/absurdity? Fortunately, we are spared the burden of trying to find a way; his comments do more damage to his own reputation than ANYTHING another human being could possibly say.

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  4. Grandpa by Valacosa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Remember kids, when Grandpa goes senile, it's not a good idea to let him drive...or practice law.

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  5. read the lawsuit by Blob+Pet · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's pretty funny if you read it. Thompson is so eloquent when you calls people "liberal intolerants" and "Stalinists."

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    1. Re:read the lawsuit by Emperor+Zombie · · Score: 5, Funny
      Personally, I like #29:

      Pictured among the self-styled "Guardians of Democracy" is the current President of The Florida Bar, Hank Coxe, who told Thompson and his lawyer, to their faces in a May 15, 2006, meeting in Tallahassee that Thompson "should be suspended from the practice of law for his vitriol." This may be the first time the head of a state bar has maintained that a lawyer should be suspended from the practice of law for an alleged attitudinal problem. Given The Bar's growing anti-Christian, anti-faith bias, Mr. Coxe undoubtedly would have found Jesus Christ's repeated upbraiding of the Pharisees to be unacceptably "vitriolic."
      That's right folks, JT is the new Jesus
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    2. Re:read the lawsuit by Damvan · · Score: 5, Funny

      My favorite:

      "The happy result was that Thompson is now the only officially Bar-certified sane lawyer in Florida."

      Wow. I can't believe this guy puts things like this into legal filings.

  6. Rule him vexatious already! by eddy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Vexatious litigation is legal action which is brought, regardless of its merits, solely to harass or subdue an adversary. It may take the form of a primary frivolous lawsuit or may be the repetitive, burdensome, and unwarranted filing of meritless motions in a matter which is otherwise a meritorious cause of action. It is considered an abuse of the judicial process and almost always brings down sanctions on the offender." -- wikipedia

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    1. Re:Rule him vexatious already! by Sigma+7 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, I actually don't think he does this to "harass or subdue an adversary"... The pettifogger follows that pattern:

      http://www.vgcats.com/jack.php - Jack Thompson makes threats to press criminal charges for harassment - even though he initiated the conversation

      http://kotaku.com/gaming/jack-thompson/penny-arcad e-vs-jack-thompson-131534.php - Jack Thompson requests a police investigation when Penny Arcade donates to a charity.

      http://kotaku.com/gaming/legal/another-jackass-tho mpson-lawsuit-coming-202894.php - Jack Thompson in an infamous anti-T2 GTA case.

      http://kotaku.com/gaming/jack-thompson/jack-bitche s-about-bullys-gay-sex-210938.php - Not satisfied with previous results, he repeats the same tactic hoping to get a victory.

      The only way you can get away with pettifogging is if you have moles within the USA judicial system, as it is with one religiously fanatical organization. Since Jack Thompson does not have contacts on this level, he probably should cut losses by flipping burgers.

      That, and I think he's gone insane actually... Even if it shares the same characteristics, Arsehole isn't a form of insanity. Likewise, it isn't an excuse for being a massacre chaser.
    2. Re:Rule him vexatious already! by The13thSin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Never said it was an excuse.

      I'm still not convinced he's "just an asshole" (though I'm sure he is that as well), But I do believe he has a base of strong conviction about this issue... problem arises when someone isn't open to arguments anymore (which he had demonstrated) and uses any means to get what he wants, no matter how morally dispicable.

      To me, it's obvious this man doesn't deserve a legal license, but I'm not one to easily dismiss his ramblings as being just an arsehole...

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  7. Dear Mr. Thompson, by Caffeinate · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the desk of the millions of normal people who play games:

    Much like you, we were deeply disturbed by the actions of the shooter at Virginia Tech and feel terribly for the families of the lost. However we deeply resent the fact that you have totally bypassed the issue at hand and chosen instead to scapegoat the electronic entertainment industry. Perhaps instead of blaming videogames (which are clearly not your area of expertise) we should instead delve a little deeper in order to find what causes these depraved/deprived individuals to take such drastic measures. Your "proof" of a link to video game violence is tenuous at best - equivalent to such joke statistics as bread creating murderers. Statistical correlation is not proof of cause and effect but beyond that, you have failed to even show a statistical correlation, instead bringing up the specific examples where the statistics say what you want to prove.

    Like naysayers for the past several centuries, you see the advent of a new form of entertainment as the downfall of society. Novels, the waltz, radio and television have all been targetted in the past and so far civilization has emerged unscathed (but not unchanged).

    Perhaps this is the issue; you (and millions of right-wing conservatives) are afraid of what the future may bring. Who knows what changes the liberalization of the West may bring?

    In short, we feel that you are doing nobody any good - you are attempting (and luckily failing) to take the attention away from the actual issues (which in the case of the VT shooting are as of yet indetermined).

    Signed,

    Gamers of the world.

    P.S. While we harbour you no malice, I wouldn't suggest you attempt any retribution - we have all been trained on "murder simulators" . . .

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    1. Re:Dear Mr. Thompson, by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't bother. You can't reason with a madman, my friend.

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    2. Re:Dear Mr. Thompson, by bheer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You are about as kneejerk as the man you are trying to hector, and you don't even realize it.

      > (and millions of right-wing conservatives) are afraid of what the future may bring

      Yeah, because "millions of right-wing conservatives" don't play games. Because gamers are one vast hivemind and march in lockstep to the promised socialist future. What crap -- in a story about gaming! As if Democrats are immune from the knee-jerk "bash gamers" disease.

      And oh --

      > Who knows what changes the liberalization of the West may bring?

      It happened 500 years ago, it's called the Renaissance. And it's produced some mighty good things, but it's also produced pussies who piss their pants in the name of political correctness. And that's just sad.

    3. Re:Dear Mr. Thompson, by Caffeinate · · Score: 2, Funny

      You are about as kneejerk as the man you are trying to hector . . . If that knee connected with Mr. Thompson's chin, at least it would get him to shut up.
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  8. Seriously, what is it? by jojoba_oil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't understand how people get so diluted in their views on reality. Can't they just realize that they are sometimes (read: often) wrong? Another recent example that stuck with me throughout this story is that of Michael Crook. (And in this example of Crook, after his apology video he posted an "I'm not really sorry, but I had to say it." video to YouTube. I'm not linking it to spare you all.)

    I thought it was common sense that if you get proven wrong (or your lies dissected) that you get the fuck over it and get on with your life, right? The only thing to gain is a more wide-spread reputation -- but mind you, it's the type of reputation you want.

    That said, what is it that spawns these people? They seem to infest society in both recent and dated history... Nobody ever likes them, so why do they do that to themselves?

    1. Re:Seriously, what is it? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's not that hard to understand.

      Imagine that you have built a business around selling tiger-repelling rocks. Not crazy huge, but enough that you live quite comfortably and can even get on TV being interviewed about your success as a self-made entrepeneur.

      Would you ever admit that the idea of a tiger-repelling rock is nonsense? Would you accept any proof that was offered, no matter how robust and bulletproof, that your rocks did nothing? Of course not. You might know that your rock is useless, but you aren't going to say so, because as long as your insistence that your rock does its job perfectly convinces some people, then they will buy your rocks and you continue to make money. When nobody believes you any more, well, then you just come out with the wolverine-repelling friendship bracelet and you're back in business.

      "Video games (as opposed to complex social problems) cause violence" is all JT has. He isn't going to give that up so long as a single person is willing to point a microphone at him while he rants. When that day finally comes, then he'll find another boogey man to blame all of society's ills on, and suddenly people will start listening again. Just like he moved on from rap music to video games.

      I don't think for a second that JT really thinks games drive people crazy. I think he thinks it's his only meal ticket. He's a lawyer, and being a lawyer is all about arguing for something vehemently that you don't necessarily agree with at all. While JT may be crazy, and most of his statements do give that impression, his fundamental motivation is probably greed rather than a distorted view of reality.

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    2. Re:Seriously, what is it? by geekoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      becasue they have grabbed onto an irrational idea, so you can not prove them wrong at all...ever. Not with science, logic, or mountains of evidence.

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    3. Re:Seriously, what is it? by nuzak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > he truly believes that video games are the cause of violence and the before video games were made the world was a perfect paradise with no violence or war.

      No, because before video games, rap music was to blame for society's ills. And before that, pornography. Jack Thompson tilted at both of these windmills before he found his bete noir in video games.

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  9. Actual quote from complaint by A_Primetime_Fool · · Score: 4, Informative
    This is an actual direct quote from Thompson's complaint, including all 72 periods.

    78. This was followed with other posts that Thompson should be struck with a baseball bat, shot in the face by an irate gamer, castrated and his testicles stuffed down his throat, and the exercise of other basic "constitutional" rights to advocate violence against an individual...[72 '.' in total]...Not!
    It seriously sounds like it was written by a 8 year old troll.
  10. You know the legal system is broken... by AbsoluteXyro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When a moron like Jack Thompson is allowed to toss frivolous lawsuits at every man woman and child that says or does something he doesn't like. I'd think all this horse-shit he keeps pulling would bite him in the ass, but it never does.

    1. Re:You know the legal system is broken... by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The legal system is not broken. This person is abusing it, and that is different. There is no way to stop this without castrating the rights, and ability of people to defend themselves from every other person.

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    2. Re:You know the legal system is broken... by VE3OGG · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually -- and it is rare that I comment on the American politics/legal sphere, but I'd have to say that the fact that such frivolous lawsuits are tossed around is indicative of nothing. Now what should worry you is if he wins said lawsuits. As I have mentioned to friends, I don't think the system is broken, I think it is the participants...

    3. Re:You know the legal system is broken... by billcopc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The big problem with it, is like everything else in the world. When you throw tons of shit around, some of it is bound to stick.

      Even if they all got thrown out of court without complications, there is still a heavy cost incurred to society as everyone involved has to waste their time listening to this bitter man's empty threats. I don't know about you, but I have more important things to do in life than sit around in court every time some jackass disagrees with my opinions.

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  11. adding slashdot to the suit by anarchy_man3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am going to kill Jack Thompson with a chainsaw.

  12. o.O by MeanderingMind · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I should get a job in law, it obviously doesn't require the slightest bit of intelligence.

    If I were a lawyer I'd be deeply offended by that complaint. Lord help us if Jack ever writes a biblical commentary.

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  13. i'm glad... by Devir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    that Jack Thompson is in fact suing all these companies. It means he's falling and knows it. He's going to try to take whoever he can with him. within a year no one will know he existed.

    THe best thing to ever happen in the favor of gamers was Jack's soap box jump within hours of Vtech. Blaming games, and saying Cho never would NEVER have "learned to enjoy killing withoutplaying violent video games". Only to later find out, that Cho, well never really played games. Maybe mine sweaper to pass some boring class time.

    He made the biggest fool of himself and lost all credibility he had. Jack's an empty shell and a nobody now. While someone else will eventually take his place in the crusade, gamers everywhere can comfortably play games without scrutiny.

    1. Re:i'm glad... by Frenchy_2001 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      THe best thing to ever happen in the favor of gamers was Jack's soap box jump within hours of Vtech. Blaming games, and saying Cho never would NEVER have "learned to enjoy killing withoutplaying violent video games". Only to later find out, that Cho, well never really played games. Maybe mine sweaper to pass some boring class time.

      Jack took a chance and lost.
      Expecting male college student to play nowadays is about as likely as them drinking (ie: very high).
      He thought that such a loner would be a gamer and it would not have been unexpected, but it proved wrong this time. Basically, Jack fell the victim of profiling. He classified people and that came back to bite him in the ass.

      Let's hope that with all those frivolous actions, he finally lose his Florida license and that we wont hear from him anymore...

  14. How Jack's mind works. by Niltsiar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    To all of us rational minded people, we may look at the comment that the kotaku reader left and think this lawsuit is very silly, but we're talking about Jack Thompson here. In his mind, games like Grand Theft Auto aren't games, they're training tools to teach potential future killers.

    To us, we may see this user's comment that that Jack should be shot for attempting to exploit the tragedy as the hyperbole that it is. To Jack though, this is potentially a trained killer making a threat, which is ridiculous, but then again, so is Jack Thompson in general.

  15. Smoking Crack by Greyfox · · Score: 3, Funny
    Leads to far more murders than video games do. I wonder if a motion to dismiss because the plaintiff is clearly smoking crack would hold up in court. If I were the judge presiding over a case where such a motion were filed I'd at the very least have to order a drug test for the plaintiff. If law were really that much fun I'd have gone into it instead of programming.

    Don't mind me, I'm just rambling...

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  16. Badge of Honor by rlp · · Score: 5, Funny

    Someone should create a 'Sued by Jack Thompson' logo for gaming sites.

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  17. Hilarious by mmmmbeer · · Score: 2

    Seriously, why isn't this filed under humor? The brief is hilarious! It starts out kind of slow, but pretty soon he gets going. Jack starts throwing around terms like "internet idiot," and accuses the Florida Bar of conspiring with opposing attorneys to "hector" him. The further he goes, the more emotional, paranoid, and downright loony he gets. It'd be a great joke if the lunatic weren't serious.

  18. Hey, Jack, by Tom · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you are really serious about your weird pseudo-statistical theory, shouldn't you thank the VT shooter? After all, chances are that, it being a tech U and all, there were quite a few other gamers among his victims. Surely, if you are right, they would all sooner or later have gone on a killing spree. Right?

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  19. If video games really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    made people half as violent as he wished, wouldn't one of us gamers have shot him already?

  20. I said it on Kotaku and I'll say it here... by jbrader · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's only a matter of time until this guy sues himself. I can see it now: "Your honor, on the day in question after locking my keys in my car I called myself an idiot and slapped myself on the forehead. This is a clearcut case of slandering myself and, even worse, assaulting myself. It's obvious I present a clear and present danger to myself and I demand you grant a restraining order ordering me to stay at least 500 feet from me at all times. In addition I think it only right you award me $3 million in damages to be paid by me to me at once. Thank you." Yup, any day now.

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  21. it's b0rken. by eddy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sure it's broken. He's a vexatious litigant and a disgrace to the profession; he should be disallowed from filing lawsuits without explicit permission of the courts. That's it. Problem solved.

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  22. Ban Phoenix Wright! by Tetsujin28 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The answer to this problem is clear, if we can only muster the will to follow through on it. We must ban those monstrous "Phoenix Wright - Ace Attorney" games, and protect our children from their insidious influence.

    It is clear to any right-thinking person that these so-called "games" are in fact Lawyer Simulations. Thanks to their brutal desensitization we are in danger of creating an entire generation of Jack Thompsons.

    Please, think of the children.

    -T.

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  23. Re:Um... by Psmylie · · Score: 5, Funny
    Having spent a grand total of 30 minutes reading up on it, I hereby declare myself to be an expert on "Bat-Shit Crazy Lawyers". In my expert opinion, the subject is, indeed, Bat-Shit Crazy. I recommend he be commited to the nearest Looney Bin, Wacky Shack, or Nut house.

    Declaring yourself an expert is easy, I love it!

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