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MIT Hacks XKCD Talk With AACS key

Reader Hanji alerts us to a hack pulled off when Randall Munroe, author of the popular webcomic XKCD, spoke at MIT by invitation of the Lab for Computer Science. MIT hackers dropped hundreds of labelled playpen balls onto the audience from hatches in the ceiling. The labels bore XKCD's logo as well as the recently discovered 16-byte AACS processing key. At another point in Munroe's talk he was stalked by remote-controlled mechanical velociraptors; but fortunately he had been supplied with a squirt gun full of grape juice.

161 comments

  1. thats better than by evwah · · Score: 5, Funny

    thats better than being stalked by remotely controlled mechanical MPAA lawyers

    1. Re:thats better than by Kryptonian+Jor-El · · Score: 5, Funny

      Can you imagine the cease and desist letter from the MPAA?
      "We demand that all AACS keys are removed from all PLAYGROUND BALLS immediately and no legal action will follow"

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    2. Re:thats better than by flyingfsck · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball!

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    3. Re:thats better than by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course they are not anthropomorphic lawyers, thus we cannot empathize when limbs are blown off through whatever means.

    4. Re:thats better than by trianglman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I think the AACS has more to worry about than happy fun balls: link.

      (thanks to the Ronald from http://sla.ckers.org/)

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    5. Re:thats better than by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 1

      thats better than being stalked by remotely controlled mechanical MPAA lawyers

      Yeah, mindless, souless reptiles that would disembowel you as soon as look you at you are awful... I'd rather be stalked by the dinosaurs.

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    6. Re:thats better than by jfb3 · · Score: 1

      *You* may think so, but do they?

    7. Re:thats better than by Arancaytar · · Score: 2

      Cool, an XSS vulnerability in action!

    8. Re:thats better than by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball!
      The Happy AACS Ball has been shipped to our troops in Afghanistan and is also being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq.
    9. Re:thats better than by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut the F up with your stupid humor.

      There is nothing more ugly than an intellectual moron.
      If you think that is funny, you should be thinking about weight loss and cancelling your WoW account.

    10. Re:thats better than by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lighten up, Francis.

  2. Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ask a liberal to define the word "hacker" and he would probably give you a rose-tinted answer. To the liberal, a hacker is a harmless tinkerer. It's unlikely that a FBI agent would agree; nor would anybody who has to commute by air, drive a car, raise a family or pay their taxes.
    All sensible patriots should demand that these atheist hackers are sent to prison. (At the very least, they are suspicious and should be reported to the FBI for going to a "technology" college instead of Bob Jones University!!). I have a modest proposal to go further than the sober ideas presented in that beatiful and well researched article: those who have inflicted cyberterrorism on our great nation by illegally watching HDDVDS should be given the death penalty. This is the only way we can live through these troublesome times, when the rapture is near, without losing to inferior and dangerous communist computing products.
  3. one of my favs, by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 5, Funny
    1. Re:one of my favs, by networkBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

      FWIW I'd never heard of this comic before today.
      I just finished reading it all.
      awesome
      hooked
      am I
      -nB

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  4. Re:Wow! by Nasarius · · Score: 2, Informative

    Learn your history, n00b.

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  5. Re:Wow! by gad_zuki! · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah arent college pranks supposed to be stuff of legend?

    "Lets drop some things and then set our overpriced RC toys at him!"

    "Genius!"

    "Yep, we're MIT students!"

  6. LSC != LCS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The xkcd talk was hosted by the MIT Lecture Series Committee, not the MIT Labratory for Computer Science (which was merged with the AI Lab to form CSAIL a few years ago, and thus no longer formally exists).

  7. So that's what Randall Munroe looks like by daranz · · Score: 5, Funny

    For some reason, I expected him to be really thin, and wearing a black hat.

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    1. Re:So that's what Randall Munroe looks like by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Like all evil whiteys, I live in fear of a black hat.

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  8. tags: encryption, humour by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    how odd we don't see the two tags together more often

    1. Re:tags: encryption, humour by natrius · · Score: 4, Funny

      You don't see them because the humor tag is usually encrypted in another one, like "itsatrap".

    2. Re:tags: encryption, humour by ChristW · · Score: 1

      I submitted this as a story, but it was rejected, so I might as well put the link here. Towards more aesthetic forms of encryption: http://members.home.nl/skoric/security/aesthetic.p df

      Note that I am not the author of this paper, but an aquaintance of him.

      Enjoy!

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    3. Re:tags: encryption, humour by loconet · · Score: 1

      That is because they are usually separated by the "microsoft" tag.

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  9. A hack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was there, it was awesome, but as a previous commenter said, it wasn't a particularily big "hack"; it was more of a prank, really.

    1. Re:A hack? by frosty_tsm · · Score: 1, Redundant

      In MIT-speak, a "Hack" is a prank.

      I can't say whether that is related to "Hack", as in to program, or "Hack", as in to exploit software.

    2. Re:A hack? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      In fact, most etymologies of the modern usage of the term hack go back to this use in the 1960s at MIT.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hack_(technology)

    3. Re:A hack? by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

      In horseriding the term "hacking" is a horse ride for the fun of it. "I'm going for a quick hack about". There's also a "hacking jacket" which is a coarse wollen short coat with a particular pattern. It is considered bad form to wear these to a hunt unless you are a terrier man or other non rider.

      I'm surprised that this term isn't ever referenced as it seems nearer to the comp.sci. meaning than using an axe in germany !

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  10. Re:Wow! by EvanED · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, there's a reason behind the playpen balls (not pens). It's a reference to the strip.

  11. it's by Mazin07 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    It's a little late to be jumping on the spread-the-AACS-key bandwagon, isn't it?

    1. Re:it's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a little late to be jumping on the spread-the-AACS-key bandwagon, isn't it?
      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

    2. Re:it's by ToxicBanjo · · Score: 1

      Never to late to pass on the solution to idiocy.

      Honestly, I wish the DRM enthusiasts of the world would get a clue. There is nothing you can try to protect digitally that someone can't break digitally. It's bits of data and there is always a combination of 1 and 0's that will open Pandora's chastity belt.

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    3. Re:it's by blackicye · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's a little late to be jumping on the spread-the-AACS-key bandwagon, isn't it?
      09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0


      Not if you realize how hard is it to write "09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0" on thousands of playground balls and them load them into chutes in the ceiling!
    4. Re:it's by inviolet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Honestly, I wish the DRM enthusiasts of the world would get a clue. There is nothing you can try to protect digitally that someone can't break digitally. It's bits of data and there is always a combination of 1 and 0's that will open Pandora's chastity belt.

      The greatest mistake anyone can make, is underestimating one's enemy.

      The RIAA is not stupid. They, of anybody, have money to burn on purchased expertise. They already understand that bits are inherently copyable. And they've been told many times that crypto will always fail in finite time when Eve is given the ciphertext, the plaintext, and the key.

      What DRM is, is their attempt to tilt the economics of copying in their favor. In the same way that we are attempting to tilt the economics of spam in our favor. In both cases, the root problem (copying or spam) is intractable... but it can be satisfactorily tamed by a change in the economics.

      By raising the cost (i.e. the hassle, the legil peril, the hardware requirements, the software expertise, etc.) of copying, and of receiving copies, above the price of retail media, they'll solve the problem enough.

      Yes, you've told us a thousand times that the problem cannot be conclusively solved, but everyone already knows that. They aren't seriously trying to do that. They're just trying to tame it, and they're succeeding. You are blind to this because you've underestimated them. You hang out here on slashdot talking about how stupid they are, but meanwhile BluRay is taking over the world, and most of your and my friends have closed down their bittorrent servers in fear.

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    5. Re:it's by dpilot · · Score: 1

      Given the story earlier today about new anti-piracy legislation...

      Gitmo for you buddy, for spreading piracy by printing that evil number!

      Randall Munroe would be LUCKY to get Gitmo. Time for some Extreme Rendition in Eastern Europe!

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    6. Re:it's by symbolic · · Score: 1

      By raising the cost (i.e. the hassle, the legil peril, the hardware requirements, the software expertise, etc.) of copying, and of receiving copies, above the price of retail media, they'll solve the problem enough.

      That's will be an ongoing challenge, since at the same time they're trying to increase the cost of copying, they also have to overcome the tremendous wave of crap they've managed to continue dumping into the market. I envision one of those two-headed Escher-esque snakes.

    7. Re:it's by Fred_A · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The RIAA is not stupid. They, of anybody, have money to burn on purchased expertise.
      However large amounts of money with no in-house expertise also tends to attract large numbers of sellers of snake oil. Which has been amply demonstrated by a number of rather silly DRM implementations we've seen floated around so far.
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    8. Re:it's by arevos · · Score: 1

      By raising the cost (i.e. the hassle, the legil peril, the hardware requirements, the software expertise, etc.) of copying, and of receiving copies, above the price of retail media, they'll solve the problem enough. The problem with this strategy is that it's effectiveness is inversely proportionate to the amount of bandwidth and harddrive space available on the open market. The RIAA and the MPAA are betting their strategy on the assumption that bandwidth and diskspace won't significantly increase any further than it has done already. This does not strike me as an assumption I'd wish to put money on.

      For instance, it's pretty easy to tell who is downloading a particular bittorrent. But if bandwidth is not an issue, we can route the request through several intermediaries, such that it is not possible to tell whether an particular IP initiated a request, or is merely relaying it. We can further eliminate the intermediaries liability by encrypting the request, so that the intermediary can legitimately claim he didn't know that the encrypted bytestream he received was anything illegal.

      So the RIAA and the MPAA have three choices:

      1. Hope that bandwidth plateaus before it becomes easy to anonymously share media.
      2. Hope that no-one develops an user-friendly application to do anonymously share media.
      3. Try to convince legislators to make people liable for any encrypted data routed through their systems.
    9. Re:it's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're the projects given to the blind followers:

      >"Timmy, I have a big project for you. The goal is meaningless and may in fact delay or even reverse the development of the global
      >technological society, but you get paid big $$$ and get to see innocent people get hurt"

      "I'm in!"

    10. Re:it's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who makes an such a user-friendly, anonymous, encrypted software will be charged with facilitating the distribution of child pornography.

      And legislators will make transrouting encrypted data illegalt out of concern for the children. Please, please, think of the children.

      You cannot explain to Joe User why he should use encryption. He doesn't have anything to hide! Only criminals need encryption!

    11. Re:it's by arevos · · Score: 1

      Anyone who makes an such a user-friendly, anonymous, encrypted software will be charged with facilitating the distribution of child pornography. 1. Such a charge would be hard to make stick, especially if the author resided outside the US.
      2. There already exist anonymising networks (admittedly not that user friendly), that could be used to distribute the software, such as Tor or Freenet.
      3. The software could be also posted anonymously from an internet cafe, or an open wireless link.
      4. Once enough people are using the software, updates could be performed anonymously through the system, like the Japanese P2P system Share does.
      5. If it was released as open source, then arresting the original author wouldn't stop it's spread.

      Trying to prevent a piece of software from spreading has never been successful in the past. Why assume it'll be successful in the future, when copying and anonymity will be much easier?

      And legislators will make transrouting encrypted data illegalt out of concern for the children. Please, please, think of the children. Twisting the voter's morality to one's own ends can be a very successful ploy, but give that such a law would mean the end of all electronic financial transactions (which is the majority, these days), I suspect that even the most zealous politicians would think twice. Stopping the economy dead in it's tracks ain't going to be much of a vote-winner.

      You cannot explain to Joe User why he should use encryption. He doesn't have anything to hide! Only criminals need encryption! I think I could have a go at it. How about this:

      Do you like credit cards? Online banking? Shopping on the web?
      Do you not want criminals taking all your money?
      Encryption stops criminals stealing your cash online.

      There. Simple, to the point - what's not to understand?
  12. Some notes by Hanji · · Score: 4, Informative
    • It was LSC, the Lecture Series Committee, not LCS, the Lab for Computer Science (now known as CSAIL) that invited him. They're a student group that shows movies and sponsors talks like this.
    • /. linked to the second page of photos; The first, which isn't entirely obviously linked from the linked page, has some excellent photos of the balls falling from the hatch.
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    1. Re:Some notes by Shabbs · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They're a student group that shows movies No doubt with the express permission of the MPAA. ;) Is it me or is it totally hilariously ironic that they have "Like free movies" written on the chalk board? Couple that with the AACS processing key attack and it's pretty funny. Indeed.

      Cheers.
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    2. Re:Some notes by belg4mit · · Score: 1

      They rent 2nd and 3rd run reels, as well as do advance screenings.

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    3. Re:Some notes by Cheapy · · Score: 1

      The line that said: "Page 2 out of 2" and had the arrows on it didn't make it clear that it was the second page?

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    4. Re:Some notes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...some excellent photos...

      I didn't see any excellent photos, only a bunch of crappy photos that don't show anything worth noting.

      But I'm picky AND cranky.

    5. Re:Some notes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /. linked to the second page of photos; The first [mit.edu], which isn't entirely obviously linked from the linked page, has some excellent photos of the balls falling from the hatch.


      But i don't want see balls falling from a "hatch"
  13. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The grape fruit juice and the raptors come from a blog entry about a letter he received.

  14. A squirt gun? by Spazntwich · · Score: 3, Funny

    Pfft, everyone velociraptors fear nothing besides traffic cones.

    1. Re:A squirt gun? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And mother-in-laws. Everything fears mother-in-laws.

  15. Hack? Not really... by msauve · · Score: 0
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  16. Re:Wow! by foobat · · Score: 4, Informative

    and the velociraptors http://xkcd.com/c87.html

  17. LSC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    SUX!

    1. Re:LSC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      in stereo!

    2. Re:LSC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Awwww. I miss that. LSC suxxxx! :)

  18. Wish I were at MIT for that by Workaphobia · · Score: 1

    Genericon is trying to get him to come to RPI next year, so with any luck I may get my chance to meet him. Until then I'll just keep plastering comics on my door.

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  19. References by mu22le · · Score: 3, Informative

    The playpen balls were a reference to one of xkcd's more popular comics, Grownups. The message on the playpen balls was a reference to some of xkcd's comics "My hobby...".

    1. Re:References by Watson+Ladd · · Score: 1

      One of the dorms at MIT has a room full of bouncy balls!. That might also be related.

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  20. I pine for the day... by eaddict · · Score: 1

    ...that someone, SOMEONE, comes to my local city to chat that is even 1/2 as interesting. It has been YEARS since I was at a guest lecture... seem some good ones (esp Douglas Adams - talking about his book Last Chance to See). Wonder how you get on a mailing list...

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  21. enough already! by moosesocks · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Why is it that whenever anything even remotely of interest happens at MIT, it immediately shows up on the front page of Slashdot, Digg, and Boingboing?

    I'll gladly admit that xkcd is a great comic, and that there are plenty of smart students and professors at MIT. However, the disproportinate amount of press coverage that MIT (and the Ivies) receive is downright insulting to the rest of us.

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    1. Re:enough already! by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 3, Funny

      You must be attending Clarkson!

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    2. Re:enough already! by Xzzy · · Score: 1

      is downright insulting to the rest of us.

      Really? I didn't see anything in TFA calling me a poophead.

    3. Re:enough already! by Ziwcam · · Score: 1

      Why is it that whenever anything even remotely of interest happens at MIT, it immediately shows up on the front page of Slashdot, Digg, and Boingboing?

      I'll gladly admit that xkcd is a great comic, and that there are plenty of smart students and professors at MIT. However, the disproportinate amount of press coverage that MIT (and the Ivies) receive is downright insulting to the rest of us.
      Wow. You sound JUST like the people that bitch about how much press Apple gets...
    4. Re:enough already! by Tickletaint · · Score: 1

      Well shit, I'm sorry. If anyone at your school bothered or thought to stage a similar event, it might have gotten coverage. But nobody did. And maybe there's a reason for that.

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    5. Re:enough already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, you research all similar events that happen across the country and have noted that Slashdot covers them? You certainly don't rely on Slashdot for links to this sort of thing?

      And, in response to your last point, NO U!

    6. Re:enough already! by moosesocks · · Score: 1

      *ducks as joke whizzes over head*

      Care to explain the significance of Clarkson?

      (It's not that I'm bitter. It's just that pranking lectures isn't even remotely unique to MIT. I just don't get why the editors deem it even remotely newsworthy when such a prank is pulled off at MIT. That said, they HAVE performed some fantastic pranks in the past. I got a big kick out of reading about the lengths they went through to steal the Caltech cannon, not to mention the various crap they've put on top of the great dome. This prank, on the other hand, was pretty darn lame.)

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    7. Re:enough already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aww, poor widdle baby doesn't get enough press coverage. Poor widdle baby needs his bottle. Waah. Waah.

    8. Re:enough already! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      So go do something worth mentioning at your school.

      The students at University of California Santa Cruz (Go Slugs!) did the bit with post-its and got blag coverage just fine.

      boingboing
      /.
      digg
      (and in the blue)

      Parent should stop whining on /. and go actually DO SOMETHING!

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    9. Re:enough already! by Russ+Nelson · · Score: 1

      Care to explain the significance of Clarkson?

      Clarkson (my alma mater) has a perennial case of the MIT / CMU / Stanford wannabees. They don't understand why they aren't a top-drawer engineering school. The answer is, as always, that they're a bunch of ninnies. Individually every (well, nearly) professor is smart as a cookie. But when they travel in packs, they become dumb as rocks. Sandstone, probably.

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    10. Re:enough already! by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      I think it's really there because 1)Randall Munroe is pretty much a demigod now, having the power to change reality, and 2) the AACS code.

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    11. Re:enough already! by pudro · · Score: 1

      If you can't appreciate what is special about an MIT prank, fine.

      But if you can't appreciate what is special about XKCD, then you have some reading to do. Start here. And don't forget to read the TITLE text by hovering over the images. (Not ALT text, as others have mislabeled it.)

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  22. How about a hack *not* from MIT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've heard people have fun and do creative things at other schools, too, but I didn't read it on Slashdot.

    Does CmdrTaco subscribe the MIT PR feed?

    1. Re:How about a hack *not* from MIT? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they all include beer. while MIT promotes perfect, non-alchoholic fun.

  23. Re:Wow! by MtHuurne · · Score: 5, Informative

    They chose velociraptors for a reason.

  24. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by dreddnott · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What was the name of that Internet "law" (more like an observation) that once you reach a point far enough to the political right, your viewpoint becomes indistinguishable from satire?

    I assume you posted this in honour of the late Jerry Falwell.

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  25. 10-250 blows by JelloJoe · · Score: 1

    They really need a new lecture hall. Most uncomfortable seats ever!

    1. Re:10-250 blows by belg4mit · · Score: 1

      a) We have new lectures halls (See the white elpehant known as Stata)
      b) You should try 26-100
      c) The reason 10-250 blows for this, or rather why LSC sucks, is that this was not a large enough venue.

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    2. Re:10-250 blows by JelloJoe · · Score: 1

      Hey chief, I know u have new lecture halls, i sat in them all last year. but i also was stuck in that poor excuse for a lecture hall for ALL of my freshman classes

    3. Re:10-250 blows by belg4mit · · Score: 1

      Then why do you say such stupid things you silly millenial super-frosh?
      And why do you gripe about one of the nicer halls, when the real back-breakers are 26-100, 4-270, etc.?

      Things could be worse. You could have to treck out to E50 or climb the three flights of stairs to 54-100.

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    4. Re:10-250 blows by textstring · · Score: 1

      You say such things about the 54-100's but it's six flights below the best classroom A4-100e?
      The bathrooms have bidets.
      Nonetheless, your point has been made prof.

    5. Re:10-250 blows by belg4mit · · Score: 1

      Not a prof., but what the heck is your gibberish-laden point?

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    6. Re:10-250 blows by JelloJoe · · Score: 1

      They have bidets???? What have I been missing all these years. Excuse me while I take a quick hike over to the green building :) Are the doors locked on the upper floors at all? I've never been on any floor except 54-100

  26. An acquaintance's video by belg4mit · · Score: 1
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  27. Now I know by Machtyn · · Score: 1

    Now I know why the XKCD site is sooo slow. I just discovered it yesterday and was going through the back posts. Little did I know the site had been slashdotted.

    1. Re:Now I know by spinfire · · Score: 1

      Lack of adequate TCP tuning to deal with that many incoming connections. Things should be better now.

  28. XKCD kicks ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I only wish he'd publish a dead-tree edition. My favorite web comic (actually, the only one I bother to check, other than Penny Arcade once in awhile.)

  29. Not to be contrarian, but by JanneM · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Um, how is dropping balls with text from the ceiling - your own ceiling - in any way clever? Or, for that matter, how is that a "hack"? Had it been a company doing it, it'd be classified solidly in the "lame promotion attempt" category.

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    1. Re:Not to be contrarian, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't know much about the term "hack", but it was really great if you happen to read the comic, the playpen balls, the dinosaurs, the messages on the ball, and every little detail had something to do with the comic.

      I do agree saying it's a "hack" sounds weird though, the whole thing was cool none the less.

    2. Re:Not to be contrarian, but by k3vlar · · Score: 5, Informative

      The term 'hack' has long been applied to various pranks on the MIT campus. Please read this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_hack

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    3. Re:Not to be contrarian, but by k3vlar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I might consider hiding hundreds of labelled playpen balls in the ceiling and dropping them on the lecture a clever use of engineering and ingenuity. It's not everyday that happens...

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    4. Re:Not to be contrarian, but by Simon+Garlick · · Score: 2, Informative

      Playpen balls are an xkcd in-joke.

      http://xkcd.com/c150.html

    5. Re:Not to be contrarian, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wish I was able to be there. I didn't buy my ticket early enough and I didn't feel like waiting on the long ass line to get in without a ticket.

      With that said, I agree that this wasn't really a 'hack'. But then again, it's tough to get a true hack after the whole Caltech cannon incident.

      I wouldn't completely disregard the playpen balls trick. The catch is that they had to write the key on EVERY SINGLE ball and somehow HIDE them where some 450 people wouldn't see it until the right time. The ceiling to 10-250 is just that, a ceiling. They probably had to do something semi-elaborate to hide hundreds of balls from hundreds of people.

    6. Re:Not to be contrarian, but by glesga_kiss · · Score: 0

      But this was done by the organizers. A hack is something done quietly, such as switching the crowd cards for a football game.

    7. Re:Not to be contrarian, but by revlayle · · Score: 1

      Has nothing to do with cleverness, but it has everything to do with the context of xkcd - perfect, in fact (but that is just one man's opinion)

    8. Re:Not to be contrarian, but by endianx · · Score: 1

      A hack is something done quietly, such as switching the crowd cards for a football game. Link
    9. Re:Not to be contrarian, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The super-soakers full of grape juice were supplied by the organizers, but the playpen balls were certainly not. The organizers were just as surprised as everyone else.

    10. Re:Not to be contrarian, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrong. As a member of the team that put the damn balls in the ceiling, LSC had absolutely nothing at all to do with the hack, and likely knew nothing about it until it happened, just like everyone else.

  30. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by ravenshrike · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, to be perfectly precise, that's all a real hacker is. But those who released the key were crackers. Not to be confused with the fucking hilarious racial epithet.

  31. Velociraptors by Kuvter · · Score: 5, Informative

    For those who may have missed the Velociraptor joke, another one here, and one more for good measure.

    I love xkcd!

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    1. Re:Velociraptors by McBruce · · Score: 1

      Another fun thing about xkcd is that Randall put extra jokes as popup text for the comic images.
      As an example, more raptors may be found here.

    2. Re:Velociraptors by Kuvter · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I thought about the alt/title text after posting. I didn't want to reply to my own post though. Sometimes the alt text is the funniest part.

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      "To do is to be." -- Aristotle
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  32. Re:Wow! by megaditto · · Score: 1

    Well, if they absolutely had to drop shit from the ceiling and involve the lame-ass robots, wouldn't it be cooler to drop ballpens with hidden RFID chips broadcasting that stolen DVD key, then make those raptors and random gadgets harass the carrier? Hunter-seeker transistor ants homing in on your cellphone? Mounted paintball guns targeting a passerby until she begs them to killer aunt delete select all? A tape recorder hidden in an elevator demanding MAFIAA royalties for listening to the elevator music the visitors "have not bought": hand over $2000 or we sue you for x100 that? A suit or armour OCRing the badges/name tags, then chatbotting the visitors. A rigged soda machine locking out non-diet cans if your BMI is too high? Anything, but this?

    I would have to agree with GP, this MIT prank would be great for a Sunday school or a fat camp.

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  33. Missed It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was in Boston that day, but I couldn't get a seat. They turned me away at the door. Would have gotten in if I didn't get out of the no-ticket line for food.

  34. Actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The pictures show they just used sticky labels. Still a pain in the rear, but not THAT bad. Having the ceiling open automatically, though, that would be fun, though I expect it wouldn't be that difficult for MIT types who like RC toys.

    If they really want to do something impressive, laser etch the damn number into the AACS LA's office building or something. Or use mirrors to reflect it off a cloud or mountain or something. Or make your own fulgerites in the shape of the number, turn them into a necklace, and auction it. Or make it the new default screen saver for every computer in the main computer labs. Or disguise it as artwork and put it with the rest of those NSA cryptogram statues. Or find some way to write it legibly on the moon.

    Or something.

    NOTE: Poster is not responsible for the wrath of the world if someone actually finds a way to deface the moon. Besides, it was supposed to be a Coke logo, not the Magic Number...

    1. Re:Actually by Doppleganger · · Score: 1

      NOTE: Poster is not responsible for the wrath of the world if someone actually finds a way to deface the moon. Besides, it was supposed to be a Coke logo, not the Magic Number...

      Coke logo? All this time I thought it was supposed to be "CHA".

  35. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by Thundersnatch · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Extremisim in any form is pretty tough to distinguish from satire. For instance, it's hard to tell if the thousands of the inane "OMG Linux+OOo+Beryl rocks M$ is the sux0r!" posts here are satire or not. I hope at least some of them are.

  36. Humor + Encryption == XKCD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    int getRandomNumber() {
      /* P.S. Schneier approves! */
      return 4;  // Chosen by fair dice roll, guaranteed to be random.
    }

  37. Like Aram? by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You mean like Aram from Men in Hats? Man, I miss that.

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  38. Re:Wow! by dysfunct · · Score: 4, Informative
    Nice ideas, but IMHO this would be blown way out of proportion and not necessarily the right kind of thing for this occasion. xkcd can have quite complex humor but is also quite pragmatic and simple.

    Also, if you don't already know, being afraid of and protecting yourself from velociraptor attacks and playpen balls as sexual innuendo are a common meme at xkcd and on its forum. Simple things like releasing playpen balls and stalking Randall Munroe with velociraptors seem to be the perfect hack considering the general spirit of the comic. In the end, the sophistication doesn't matter if it completely misses the joke and just doesn't feel right for the occasion. There's a right time and place to show off your tech skills, but this one just wasn't.

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  39. It's quite popular, but why? by Grendel+Drago · · Score: 1

    You'd think that a comic like this would appeal only to those of the dorky persuasion, but I think I know why it has broader appeal. (I know at least one non-dorky person who doesn't know the technical background of the jokes, but still really likes xkcd.) It's because the comic isn't really about dorky things; it uses dorky jokes to talk about themes like loneliness which even non-dorks can appreciate, and does this often enough that many non-dorks find it worth the time to read. Compare this to, for instance, Schlock Mercenary, which has its appeal pretty firmly limited to dorks.

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    1. Re:It's quite popular, but why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That and it lets non-geeks feel geeky (which is one of the reasons apple computers are so popular... for whatever reason people think macs == geek cred). Never underestimate the appeal of letting someone feel like something they aren't. That's why flattering people is almost always a good idea if you want something from them.

    2. Re:It's quite popular, but why? by Workaphobia · · Score: 1

      But there's so much in there that is so exclusively geeky.

      Monroe is like the collective overmind of the entire geek population on the internet. I don't know if his thoughts radiate out mind control beams to our subconscious, or if he's a manifestation of all our thoughts but with a better vocabulary. Either way, I feel like I should worship him like I would any other overlord.

      If you need any convincing: http://xkcd.com/c239.html
      Pay special attention to the alt-text for this one. He takes an entire world of the unwritten dreams of an entire population and its struggle against a corporate world with contrary interests, and condenses it all into a few panels of a stick figure comic. He understands because he is one of us, but unlike a lot of us he knows just how to express it, in the purest, simplest form, and he does it very, very well.

      Sure, there's a layer of humor, but no non-geek who hasn't thought (at least subconsciously) the things that lie beneath the surface, can truly appreciate xkcd.

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    3. Re:It's quite popular, but why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same reason Jonathan Coulton is popular.

  40. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by niXcamiC · · Score: 1

    I find it amazing that of all the moderation that comment got, not one of them was +1 Funny.

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  41. come on, I know you're out there... by Zackbass · · Score: 3, Funny

    LSC..

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    1. Re:come on, I know you're out there... by Harvey · · Score: 3, Funny

      ... sucks!

  42. Re:Wow! by ozmanjusri · · Score: 1

    "Lets drop some things and then set our overpriced RC toys at him!"

    Great job, Guys! Throwing that switch and all, I can see your MIT education really pays for itself
    </Barney>

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    "I've got more toys than Teruhisa Kitahara."
  43. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by OECD · · Score: 1

    What was the name of that Internet "law" (more like an observation) that once you reach a point far enough to the political right, your viewpoint becomes indistinguishable from satire?

    You're thinking of the law that "once you reach a point far enought to the political right, your viewpoint becomes indistinguishable from your liberal girlfriend's."

    Oddly, it's equally disturbing for both parties.

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  44. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Um...'Crackers' do something illegal. It's not illegal to write a number on a ball, unless the MPAA owns copyright on a number.

  45. I say =) by Cervantes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Having only recently been introduced to xkcd (and having read the entirety of the strip in one sitting) I have to say this entire thing is quite amusing. The balls, the raptors... obviously the folks who pulled this have read and understood the strip.

    If you haven't read it yet, I highly recommend it. Geek humour at it's finest (and sometimes most touching)

    Hey Rob, where's my 20 questions with the xkcd author???

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  46. XKCD: Hover over the comics by gsn · · Score: 5, Informative

    The comics have the Title attribute defined. For example http://xkcd.com/c253.html. I read them all and noticed this a week later and then had to go back and read them all again.

    I love xkcd.

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    1. Re:XKCD: Hover over the comics by eMbry00s · · Score: 1

      Vote parent up, this is important info for anybody new to xkcd. Where are my mod points when I need them?

  47. turned off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This whole "let's broadcast the AACS key everywhere" thing is getting really freaking old.

    I've only read Slashdot a half-dozen times since that story broke, and it's still going strong, everybody and their mother has the key in their sig, tags, stories, etc.

    Broadcasting new ways to rip people off with twice the resolution of previous methods isn't edgy, fun, making a statement...at best it's subversive and anti-establishment for no good reason and I guess nerds love that sort of thing.

    I'm quite glad I got out of IT and am pursuing a Ph.D. in an unrelated field at this point....

  48. Get the Long Titles extension. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Firefox doesn't show the whole titles (i.e. hovertext) without the Long Titles extension. Get it. Enjoy it. :D

  49. Don't miss.. by Ahnteis · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't miss the alt text.

    1. Re:Don't miss.. by julesh · · Score: 1

      It's really cruel to tell someone that *after* they finish reading it all.

      (Yeah, it happened to me, too...)

    2. Re:Don't miss.. by dyefade · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but then I got to read it all again. (Actually, this happened to me a while ago and I still forget).

    3. Re:Don't miss.. by networkBoy · · Score: 2, Funny

      son of a bitch.
      starting over
      am I
      -nB

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  50. Obligatory by ZombieRoboNinja · · Score: 2, Funny

    And they've been told many times that crypto will always fail in finite time when Eve is given the ciphertext, the plaintext, and the key.
    Obligatory XKCD.
  51. Re:I say =| by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I saw xkcd either here or on digg recently, and I too read the entire strip in one sitting. Unfortunately I read it backwards, so I had about an hour of total crap at the end of my sitting.

    I wrote down the ones I thought were amusing to save others from my agony. Here is some code to generate clickable links. Drop it in a text file and browse it, or just take the numbers and manually enter the URLs.

    <h2>the only decent xkcd comics</h2>
    <script language="javascript">
    var ok = [ 91, 120, 131, 140, 158, 163, 166, 168, 173, 178, 197, 210, 231,
      237, 244, 250 ];
    document.write ("<ul>");
    for (var i in ok) { document.write ("<li><a href='http://xkcd.com/c" +
      ok[i] + ".html" + "'>" + ok[i] + "</a></li>"); }
    document.write ("</ul>");
    </script>
  52. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, you may be wrong there as writting that particular number anywhere may indeed be illegal under the DMCA. Not because the number itself is copyrighted (it isn't), but because it 'facilitates' copyright violations.

  53. That's a hack? Not a prank? by Artifex · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Sorry, I'm obviously new here. Please explain how this is actually a hack.

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    1. Re:That's a hack? Not a prank? by sherriw · · Score: 1

      MIT is famous for it's elaborate student pranks. They call them hacks. For example, turning a hallway(or was it building?) into a Super Mario level, and other great ones. See: http://hacks.mit.edu/

  54. Some more notes by julesh · · Score: 1

    Anyone confused about why playpen balls and velociraptors should see:

    Grownups
    Velociraptors

  55. LSC! ... SUX! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just one for old times' sake.
    The LSC Registration Day porno movie -- your guarantee that you'll see a naked woman during your stay at MIT.

  56. Strange by Wookietim · · Score: 1

    I support free speech and think the MPAA is overreacting. But at the same time, this guy (and everyone else who has plastered the key everywhere) is acting in a provocative manner. This whole argument is starting to sound like the brother/sister act of "I'm not touching you". Maybe if both sides grew up and actually tried to understand the other sides argument, this type of thing could be resolved.

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    1. Re:Strange by Slashcrap · · Score: 1

      I support free speech and think the MPAA is overreacting. But at the same time, this guy (and everyone else who has plastered the key everywhere) is acting in a provocative manner. This whole argument is starting to sound like the brother/sister act of "I'm not touching you". Maybe if both sides grew up and actually tried to understand the other sides argument, this type of thing could be resolved.

      Sorry, I'm confused. Are you trying to be funny, or did you actually put effort into writing the most pointless and unrealistic statement I've ever seen on the Internet?

    2. Re:Strange by Wookietim · · Score: 1

      So you are angry that I mentioned that both sides are acting like children? Let's see - if you know that writing the AACS key is gonna make lots of companies unhappy, what does it prove to do it, other than he could? The simple fact of the matter is that the lawyers who oppose this type of thing are over-reacting. But the people that engage in that are also over-reacting - trying to bait the companies into complaining... Maybe we should all settle down and engage in some adult discussion about this type of thing so that, in the future, we can avoid these messes. I go back to my example - both sides are acting like children engaged in "I'm not touching you". Childish actions are not what a serious, adult problem needs in order to solve it.

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  57. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It works the other way too; when you get too far to the left, it gets indistinguishable from satire.

    As far as Shelly goes, she is satire. I'm a republican and I was outraged by the things that site said. I researched it and found out the connection between them and Billy Bob Neck who is a comedian. Maybe I'm just naive, but how many people do you think read that and believe it? Thats the part that scares me. For all their hardcore and radical beliefs, even hannity and beck, etc don't go that insane. (I am a pretty moderate repub btw)

  58. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

    True, but those who originally got the key and released it were crackers as it is illegal to initially knowingly release a trade secret. Everybody else just parroted the information, so basically the MIT boys were a poorly updated RSS feed

  59. Re:Wow! by john83 · · Score: 1

    They chose velociraptors for a reason. Yes indeed.
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  60. Not offtopic by Ambitwistor · · Score: 1

    Mods: It's not off-topic. The 'xkcd' hat guy was modeled after the character Aram from Men in Hats. (See the alt text to this comic.)

  61. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by dreddnott · · Score: 1

    Well, if you want to know if anyone takes the STR blog seriously, just check out some of the comments people leave. There seems to be quite a few that are not also satirical in nature.

    It made me shudder even more than some of the crudest, most ignorant Youtube comments, which are basically the bottom of the barrel for human nature.

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  62. Richard Stallman by Tteddo · · Score: 1

    It's a good thing with all the patent issues that Richard Stallman now has his very own katana.
    http://blag.xkcd.com/2007/04/19/life-imitates-xkcd -part-ii-richard-stallman/

  63. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by compro01 · · Score: 2, Informative

    What was the name of that Internet "law" (more like an observation) that once you reach a point far enough to the political right, your viewpoint becomes indistinguishable from satire?

    i believe you're refering to Poe's law:

    "Without the use of a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to make a parody of fundamentalism that someone won't mistake for the real thing."

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  64. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by dreddnott · · Score: 1

    Yes, that's exactly it.

    I think the reason I couldn't recall it was because I conflated the general concept of fundamentalism with the current political situation. The way it's actually phrased is much more universally applicable.

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  65. XKCD by Clete2 · · Score: 0

    XKCD is hilarious! I'm glad it was linked. I just finished reading every last comic (except for a few of the beginning ones that were high school drawings). There are a lot of classic ones. I want the "Make me a sandwich" "What? Make it yourself" "Sudo make me a sandwich" "Okay" t-shirt!

    http://xkcd.com/store/

    Great comics :D

  66. Heh by glwtta · · Score: 3, Informative

    So, like 27 people link to the playpen balls comic, but no one mentions that someone actually baked him a cake shaped like the internet - a deliciously(!) multi-layered reference to XKCD?

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  67. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by oni · · Score: 1

    on the other hand, you can go over to democratic underground.com and see this amazing trip down the road of stupidity and failed critical thinking

    That isn't satire. That is an actual liberal posting on an actual mainstream liberal website and he is obviously batshit insane. I have never seen anything on freerepublic.com as retarded as that thread on democraticunderground.com

  68. Re:Americans demand tougher sentencing for hackers by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

    As crazy and conspiratorial as it is, that post seems downright sensible compared to the things Pat Robertson says.

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  69. Re:Wow! by Ciaran_H · · Score: 1

    You forgot something. The juice joke doesn't make sense without that. :P