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Slingbox Comes to the Mac

Egadfly writes "The Slingbox has arrived for the Mac world. Some long delays during development now seem over. Sling Media has finally released version 1.0 of their software for Mac OSX. This means that, after buying and installing the Slingbox, Mac users can 'sling' their home cable and satellite signals to themselves at the airport, or in a café hotspot, or over their office computers. The article on SlingCommunity.com gives the details of the software's development — from last year's much-discussed beta to today's v1.0. Screenshots show how a standard-looking "TV remote," displayed onscreen, allows the Mac users to change channels or browse Tivo recordings over the Internet, many miles from their living rooms."

76 comments

  1. Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! by LibertineR · · Score: 5, Funny
    No more being a slave to whatever is playing in my hotel room. With a fast connection, I can watch and control my own DirecTV from wherever I happen to be. Either on my laptop, or my Treo, I can watch what I want, when I want. Slingbox ought to hire me, because I help sell a few units everytime I connect up waiting at an airport gate. People cant believe I am watching my own DirecTV on my phone.

    Get one, bitches.

    1. Re:Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! by OlivierB · · Score: 0

      So sad, you should open your eyes while travelling and go out to meet the locals

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    2. Re:Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Meeting the locals in Cleveland at 2 am? No thanks.

    3. Re:Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! by LibertineR · · Score: 1
      Dont get out much, do ya?

      When I am traveling, the last thing I want to do is meet people, except those buying rounds, and paying for my services.

      I tend to gravitate towards anything that will help me forget that I am stuck in a cylinder for hours at a time with other people's germs, children and boring life-stories. Better to check out ESPN, SciFi or Discovery when waiting for a plane than to be limited to the fat chick on CNN telling me how America sucks.

    4. Re:Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 4, Insightful
      No more being a slave to whatever is playing in my hotel room. With a fast connection, I can watch and control my own DirecTV from wherever I happen to be. Either on my laptop, or my Treo, I can watch what I want, when I want. Slingbox ought to hire me, because I help sell a few units everytime I connect up waiting at an airport gate. People cant believe I am watching my own DirecTV on my phone.

      Get one, bitches.

      You're still a TV slave. You're just placeshifting your shackles.

    5. Re:Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Slingbox + TiVo means I wear my shackles when I want, where I want!

    6. Re:Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! by jaredcat · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've got one of these too (CompUSA's going out of business sale), and I love it.

      I travel for business about 2 weeks per month, and I go mad trying to find something to watch on Hotel television.

      The Slingbox lets me see and control everything on my Tivo Series3 and the quality is pretty good even at full screen.

      The SlingPlayer client is amazingly well thought out, even though the UI could use some refinement. For instance, during initial setup, the SlingPlayer client asked me for my home router's password and automatically configured the ports it needed.

      Also, I don't need to know my IP address at all... Once I've connected to my Slingbox 1 time on my own home network, it remembers that Slingbox's ID on SlingMedia's server. The next time I go online anywhere in the world, the SlingPlayer client looks up the real IP address of my Slingbox on SlingMedia's server and then connects automagically.

      My only complaint about the SlingBox (and its really not SlingMedia' fault) is my HDMI troubles with the Tivo Series3. When the Tivo is connected to a TV via HDMI, and that TV is off, it doesn't see the HDMI DRM handshake signal. When that happens, Tivo displays an error message on all video outputs. My SlingBox is connected to my Tivo via Component video. So the first time I went off on a trip, all I could see when I connected to my Slingbox was the menu screen and that stupid HDMI error message. The workaround was to just unplug the HDMI cable when I know I'm going to travel... Or I guess I could leave my TV on 24-7 too.

      Sometimes I use SlingPlayer at home when I just want to watch Tivo in a little square while I'm working insted of putting my laptop in front of the TV. On the local LAN, the quality is at least as good as SDTV.

      Anyway IMHO the SlingBox is a must-have for any business traveler.

    7. Re:Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I am traveling, the last thing I want to do is meet people, except those buying rounds, and paying for my services.

      gay male prostitute?

    8. Re:Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! by freerad · · Score: 1

      Is the stream still encrypted? That's what happened to mine via an unsolicited flash upgrade. Box went back, now moving to HAVA. http://www.snappymultimedia.com/index.php

    9. Re:Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How's that working out for you?

      Don't answer, your posting on slashdot is all the answer I need.

      .

    10. Re:Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How's that working out for you?

      Don't answer, your posting on slashdot is all the answer I need.


      Touché, faggot.

    11. Re:Mac or not, the Slingbox simply rocks! by That's+Unpossible! · · Score: 1
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  2. Full circle by jfengel · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can I then use the iTV to sling it back to my television set?

    Maybe we can get them to sling it back and forth until it opens a wormhole or something.

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    1. Re:slashvertisment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ads for nerds, stuff that pays.

  4. What is it? by slashthedot · · Score: 1

    Is it a unique product users will find interesting, that Sling something? (writing comments so that part of story isn't showing up)

    1. Re:What is it? by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 3, Funny

      > Is it a unique product users will find interesting, that Sling something?

      Some people call it a kaiser box...I call it a sling box. I aim to watch TV with it.

    2. Re:What is it? by tlhIngan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is it a unique product users will find interesting, that Sling something? (writing comments so that part of story isn't showing up)


      It's a place-shifting box. Sure, all the Linux-heads can do 100x better with Linux, a capture card, and VLC, and some hacked lirc stuff, but for the rest of us who don't want to leave a PC on all day, it's effectively all that in a little box. Plus your cable TV coax to it (or your composite/svideo/component outputs), plug in the power supply, plug in the Ethernet, and in a few minutes of setup, you're watching your TV on your computer (PC/Mac), phone or PDA.

      The smart ones hook it to their TiVos. There's an IR blaster so you can use the virtual (i.e., onscreen) remote control to control it.

      Can it be done with a regular Windows PC? Yes. Linux? Most definiteiy. But if you want something easy to set up, a Slingbox works.
    3. Re:What is it? by Delta-9 · · Score: 1

      I just got my slingbox from woot for $74.99 shipped. Even if I was only pay $12/hour to setup and configure a linux machine to do what the slingbox does, it would definetly take me more than 6 hours to get it working as well as the slingbox does. (Its working on my brother's Treo).

      I value my time at much more than $12/hr ... buying the slingbox and going the route of the slingbox is a much better solution than the DIY linux solution, even at $120 MSRP its a better deal.

    4. Re:What is it? by jacobw · · Score: 1

      One quick question. If you've got a slingbox hooked up to your Tivo at home, and you're watching from the road, is it possible for somebody back home to watch something else simultaneously on the TiVo? EG, if I'm watching a TiVo'd episode of The SImpsons on the road via Slingbox, can somebody simultaneously sit in my living room and watch a TiVo'd Survivor?

    5. Re:What is it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no

    6. Re:What is it? by Delta-9 · · Score: 1

      The slingbox acts like a remote TV attached to your DVR.

      A simple way to answer your question is for me to ask you another question:

      Can you Tivo output to two different TVs at one time?

      If you answer yes to this, then you could, in theory, setup the slingbox to be one of those TVs and then you could have two TVs showing two different programs at once. I have a feeling that is not the case. Which would mean that if someone was home the same program would be showing on box 'TVs' at the same time.

      I have a single tuner ReplayTV at home and I have not bothered to setup my slingbox to control my ReplayTV because I really only want to use the Slingbox to watch live content. If its stored on my RTV, then I can wait until I get home to watch it.

    7. Re:What is it? by Delta-9 · · Score: 1

      Ugh... sorry, for not proof reading...

      Can your Tivo output to two different TVs at one time?

      and

      Which would mean that if someone was home the same program would be showing on both 'TVs' at the same time.

  5. Intel??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't find any mention of Intel Macs? If it supports them then I want one bad. My PCs are always tied up rendering so the Mac is my media machine, the fact it was a 20" wide screen doesn't hurt either. I've been meaning to pick one up in part to use it in the bedroom. There's no cable hook up there and I've been using a notebook to watch DVDs anyway. Really love the idea of Slingbox and this could push me over the top.

    1. Re:Intel??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      It supports intel macs. The software is a universal binary. Happy slinging.

  6. LMAO @ Linux being left behind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reminds me of the I'm a Mac and I'm a PC and I'm Linux spoofs.

  7. Sure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I run it on my MacBook Pro all the time. Not sure why this is news now, though, as it was released at least a week ago, and the beta version worked just fine for a long time prior.

  8. Isn't this news a little stale? by Sevenfeet · · Score: 1

    Slingbox for Mac went 1.0 a few weeks ago I think. I'm not sure why it's just making Slashdot now.

    That being said, Slingbox Mac is working very well for me, paralleling the performance of the PC version (I have the Slingbox Pro with HD adapter). The only thing I haven't seen the Mac version do is a "half screen size" mode which the PC version does. Otherwise the feature set seems identical.

    1. Re:Isn't this news a little stale? by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

      Slingbox for Mac went 1.0 a few weeks ago I think. I'm not sure why it's just making Slashdot now.
      The original announcement was recorded on Slashdot's tivo, they just got round to watching it now.
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    2. Re:Isn't this news a little stale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm anxiously awaiting news of the Great XM Radio Outage.

    3. Re:Isn't this news a little stale? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just wait: you'll see this same story posted again in a few days, then a few weeks, and then some random number of months in the future.

  9. Now comes to the mac? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You mean this isn't O/S independent? WTF? That totally sucks.

    1. Re:Now comes to the mac? by KFury · · Score: 3, Informative

      RTFA. The Slingbox itself is OS independent. The *Client Software* is not, nor should it be. Video decompression in Java? *That* would suck.

    2. Re:Now comes to the mac? by ChrisXS · · Score: 1

      Ever hear of a site called youtube? If the slingbox could serve up the videos in flash, that would own all.

    3. Re:Now comes to the mac? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Video decompression in Java? *That* would suck.

      The CW network's website uses an applet to play full-length episodes. Some JNI beneath it, I presume.

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  10. Boss didn't let me install DirecTV in the office by Palmyst · · Score: 1

    This will show him!

  11. "Free" version? by demi · · Score: 1

    Has anyone done a "free" version of this, running something like a MythTV or other Linux-based media computer, say, and having it encode a cable signal on the fly to your laptop somewhere?

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    1. Re:"Free" version? by kwark · · Score: 1

      A simple mencoder script or VLC will do the job.

      But I just don't get this product. If you have a fast enough connection to download this kind of stuff, why would you waste your time watching TV? Just download (or stream if you are low on diskspace) something from your video repository you actually can choose to watch. IMHO the only reason to watch live tv would be news programs, and those can already be streamed (atleast from the public access channels)

    2. Re:"Free" version? by roscivs · · Score: 1

      IMHO the only reason to watch live tv would be news programs, and those can already be streamed (atleast from the public access channels)
      And sports ... which coincidentally are the most difficult to find streaming video feeds for.
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    3. Re:"Free" version? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      re: Sports...

      Which is exactly what I've been using mine(slingbox) for. (On a Mac...for several months...)

    4. Re:"Free" version? by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

      Yes, you can do it with MythTV and MythWeb; the MythTV box records your TV, Tivo-style, and transcodes it to MPEG-4, which you can then stream to a viewer anywhere you have a sufficiently fast connection.

      Setting up MythTV is a bit of a bear, though. (Okay, that's putting it lightly ... it's probably best summed up as a sort of Old-Testament-style religious experience, and that's on a good day.) Pre-rolled distros like Knoppmyth or Mythdora make it a little easier, but it's still a weekend activity and is happiest if you can dedicate a box to it. And unfortunately, a single decent TV tuner (hardware MPEG-2) will probably set you back almost as much as a Slingbox.

      But from what I understand, the Slingbox is place-shifting only, while a MythTV machine will let you both place- and time-shift, as well as format shift onto DVD-R.

      The Slingbox would actually make a great video input device for a MythTV system, if it weren't all DRMed to heck and back.

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  12. This "news" is only about 4 weeks old... by CptTripps · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...but it's still awesome.

    I've been using mine for a while now, and can tell you that this is about the coolest invention I've seen in a while. Originally, I wasn't sure why I'd need one...now I can't travel without it. I sit in airports watching TV on my MacBook, and always get 1-2 people that ask about it.

    Great stuff...

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  13. Orb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People usually use Orb for the free side, but Slingbox is really so easy and slick, it's nice to just pick one up and be done with it.

    1. Re:Orb by gatzke · · Score: 1

      Orb is awesome, but the quality is very low. It works great if you want to stream to your cell, but not to your HDTV. I think it compresses down to Q VGA or something.

      Works ok on the Wii!!

  14. Forget about this slingbox by roman_mir · · Score: 0

    More importantly is that this tool comes all over Mac fans.

  15. iphone by Rethcir · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hopefully this is a prelude to compatibility with a certain phone running MacOS..

  16. NSLU2 + WinTV + ext. HD - alternative to Slingbox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Linksys NSLU2, a WinTV USB external TV tuner and an external hard-drive are all what you need to create an alternative to the Slingbox. While this solution is more expensive that the Slingbox, about $360 CAD, you can actually save TV feeds directly on a hard-drive without leaving your computer on, just like a PVR. You can't save TV feeds directly on the computer using the Slingbox (they encrypt the feeds). To stream the TV signal from the NSLU2, you will have to use VLC, so you can watch TV anywhere in your home using your wifi-enabled notebook or anywhere in the world over the web.

    The NSLU2 has a 133Mhz cpu that is easily overclocked to 266mhz.

    You can use this setup to run rTorrent so that you can download torrents without leaving your computer on. With rTorrent, you just drop torrent files into a shared directory on the hard-drive that's connected to the NSLU2, and rTorrent will automatically pick it up and start downloading!

    I currently have Debian Etch 2 installed on the NSLU2. I've been using this setup for the past couple of months. It's great and works flawlessly. It's a lot of fun too.

  17. Not impressed by Dragonfire00 · · Score: 1

    I used to sell these things when I used to work for a retailer, they sucked. Our display was buggy and what not. Concept was cool though.

    1. Re:Not impressed by Wovel · · Score: 1

      Than someone wherever you worked was just not very bright. I have had a classic since release and it has worked flawlessly. I have 2 Avs and the classic is still working great.

      There are no other products free or pay that compare with the slings ability to dynamically adjust to changing bandwidth. I have tried everything out there. I travel internationally 40-50 weeks a year and have tried every solution available including myth, orb , beyond and 2 or 3 others. Nothing has the hardware and remote support (or even comes close).

      BTW(Because it is not relayed to the comment I am currently responding to). It is silly to call myth free when you have to buy a PC and a tuner card.. The sligbox is a compact easy to use all in one solution that does exactly what it claims, better than you would expect and classics can be had for less than the price of moderate tuner card that will not provide anywhere near the quality.

  18. Okay, so it's pricier than I thought. by Kadin2048 · · Score: 1

    Just as a followup, I apparently quite underestimated the cost of a Slingbox -- for some reason I had this idea they were about $75 or so, when they're really about $125. That would buy you at least one, probably two, PVR-150s if you shopped around for them on sale. If you could write off the cost of the spare computer to run it on (i.e., you have a few sitting around, as I suspect many /.ers do) then you could probably beat the Slingbox in price, although unless you have a spare ultra-low-power system, eventually your cost advantage is going to get eaten up in electricity consumption.

    The closest thing you can get to a Slingbox that will work well with MythTV is a box called the HDHomeRun, $170, which does ATSC OTA and QAM Cable HDTV, letting you record it on a suitably-powerful MythTV box.

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    1. Re:Okay, so it's pricier than I thought. by MutualDisdain · · Score: 1

      I own a Slingbox but I am probably going to be building a MythTv box based on Ubuntu within the next month.

      The Slingbox does what it is advertised to do, but I have had recurrent problems interfacing it with the Moxi DVR that my cable company supplied. When I first got the Slingbox it wasn't even compatible with the Moxi DVR. Then a few months later they released IR codes that allowed me to control it. Unfortunately that control is intermittent as sometimes (mostly when I am 600 miles away) the Slingbox refuses to change the channel on my Moxi DVR.

      Slingbox has also started encoding their digital stream to the client. You used to be able to record the stream to a Windows Media file for fair use (such as on your portable device) but now the stream is encoded. You either have to revert to an older version of the client to circumvent this, or use a hack that prevents the latest client from requesting an encrypted stream from the Slingbox.

      So after noting that my DVR is costing me at least $7 a month to rent, that the DVR doesn't allow me fair use of the content, and that my Slingbox doesn't give me all the functionality that I want; I have decided to switch to a homemade DVR.

      I have read that MythTV for Ubuntu is easier to set up than it once was. I looked into BeyondTV and other software DVRs but I like the fact that MythTV is open sourced, and supports game emulators. There is a freeware Windows-based DVR software, but it doesn't appear to have all the features MythTV does and I can't justify buying another MS license.

      I am guessing that my greatest cost will be in purchasing a PVR card or two since my two ATI cards are not Linux compatible, and they software encode instead of hardware encode.

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  19. Re:fuC4? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lol. did penisbird get laid?

  20. Seriously, this is perfect! by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    If I can sling it back and forth between the boxes like this, that means I won't have to watch it! Freeing me up to go outside and play or something. This could be a big selling point...

  21. A Free Alternative: SightSpeed TV by dannyastro · · Score: 1

    While not widely known, http://sightspeed.com/ has a free service called SightSpeed TV that let's someone with a TV tuner card in their PC stream the program to anyone in the world using SightSpeed's video calling service. SightSpeed works with Macs, but I'm not sure if the SightSpeed TV service works with Macs that have tuner cards, though a Mac can definitely recieve a SightSpeed TV stream.

  22. How to hack Hotel TV to connect laptop? by JelloJoe · · Score: 1

    I have tried everything I can, but I can't figure out how to hook up my laptop to hotel tvs that have those stupid OnCommand or Lodgenet devices attached to them. I have s-video to s-video as well as s-video to rca cables. I also have a universal remote because the hotel remotes don't have an input button. Problem happens when i hit the input button....nothing happens. The source does not change! There is also no input/source button on the tv :( What the heck can I do. The onCommand device is securely attached to the tv. The coaxial cables have these lock thing to prevent them from being taken off. Has anyone successfully removed these(and subsequently put them back) without damaging the tv or cable? I really want to watch my slingbox on the hotel tv, but I cannot figure out any other way. A quick google search of hacking the hotel tv brings up stories about people who have been able to remove the cable from the wall, and hack into the oncommand system to get all the pay channels, but none of these stories will be able to help me in my case. I figure if people on slashdot can't figure it out, then it's pretty near impossible to do without breaking things.

  23. OH MY GOD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I CAN'T BE AWAY FROM MY TELEVISION FOR MORE THAN FIVE MINUTES

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  24. Sling Rocks! by saunderscc · · Score: 1

    I've been using Slingbox HD (whatever the red one is) since the beginning of December on a Mac. I started using the Mac beta which was updated at least once prior to the official 1.0 client. Setting it up was pretty easy and when I called tech support one evening I got one of the developers. Super helpful. In fact, before I bought one, the guy had me download the Mac beta and then gave me his Slingbox info to see how it worked on my machine. I bought one that evening after work. True story. I couldn't recommend the product or the company more. I call linksys, or some other giant company, and I'm talking to Mumbai. Ring up Slingmedia and you might just get one of the guys that made this happen. Anyway, my Slingbox has worked flawlessly, and I use it all day long every day I'm in my office (I refuse to pay the jerkoffs at Time Warner the premium they charge for a monthly "business" account). It isn't a stretch to think about capturing the stream and making my MacBook a "Tivo." I don't have the technical skills to do it, but somebody certainly does.

    1. Re:Sling Rocks! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hello mister , do u know where the R and D for this gadget comes from ???
      http://us.slingmedia.com/page/contactUs.html , hold ur horses b4 commenting again on India

  25. Software Activation? Heck No! by jack_csk · · Score: 1
    From the sling community webpage, page 4:

    You are now required to activate your copy of SlingPlayer.


    I was at first impressed by Slingbox, right until I read this line. It is already too many software activation to deal with on the Windows platform, and I would avoid that like a plague on my Mac.

    I am always under the impression that Microsoft will deny my windows activation request on an unused license (or reactivate my computer in case the Redmond's fragile software is broken / infected with virus) after they pulled the support for Windows XP (and the activation is also a reason why I would stick to OpenOffice.org only on Windows). Some people find it hard to believe for Microsoft to do that, but then I don't want to bet for the software companies' greediness with my money.
    1. Re:Software Activation? Heck No! by argent · · Score: 1

      I am always under the impression that Microsoft will deny my windows activation request on an unused license (or reactivate my computer in case the Redmond's fragile software is broken / infected with virus) after they pulled the support for Windows XP

      Which is why I'm using Windows 2000 still.

      It doesn't need activation.

      So now they're trying to force it through the backdoor by requiring WGA for updates.

      I'm beginning to see how making the OS fragile is a marketing tactic.

    2. Re:Software Activation? Heck No! by CptTripps · · Score: 1

      That line refers to connecting your software to your SlingBox...not activating the SlingPlayer software.

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  26. Forget Slingbox by pecosdave · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been using MPEG4IP since before a Slingbox was trendy, not sure buy maybe before it was released. It's not exactly meant to be used the way I used it, but I can stream audio and video from my TV card and I can change channels when I want as well.

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  27. If only... by dteichman2 · · Score: 1

    If only they could integrate this with Apple TV, then users could stream live TV to their TVs.

    Alternately, one's iTunes library could be made available for streaming to one's computer. (That was supposed to sound funny, but it's a real proposition for the "home server" group.)

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  28. Welcome to the Club by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Typical Apple fare: welcome to the PC club, circa 2003.

    Other examples of 'Apple Innovation' years behind the rest:
    -2+ button mouse
    -Intel x86 chips
    -core duo (6 months behind)
    -santa rosa based chips
    -portable music players
    -mobile phone O/S
    -tablet based laptop (still yet to happen)

    1. Re:Welcome to the Club by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, that was a lame Troll.

  29. TV Alternative by Paulrothrock · · Score: 1

    My wife's been wanting a TV in our bedroom for a long time. Unfortunately, we don't have room for a CRT and don't have the money for an LCD flat panel. (26" for $400?!? Only if it also makes breakfast, thankyouverymuch.) However, we both have laptops, her an iBook and me a Powerbook. We watch DVDs and downloaded videos on them in bed.

    So when I heard that SlingPlayer was coming to the Mac, I suggested it. I got a sweet deal on a Slinbox A/V from Buy.com ($125, $30 or so under list) and as soon as we get our Dish Network installed we'll be able to watch our TV from anywhere in the house, even outside. And, as a bonus, I'll be able to watch my TV shows on the DVR from anywhere.

    The only better thing would be a way for me to use the SlingPlayer to save videos to my Mac Mini's hard drive and convert them to the iPod (or AppleTV) automatically. That would be sweet.

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  30. Are you NUTS?! by Crash+Culligan · · Score: 2, Funny

    jfengel: Maybe we can get them to sling it back and forth until it opens a wormhole or something.

    My ghod! Listen to yourself, man! You're trying to make television suck harder than it does now!!

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  31. There is no god. Let's save the world anyway. by anomaly · · Score: 1

    I'm all for catchy slogans but this makes no sense:
    "Save the world?" if there's no god, save the world from what? Save the world *to* what?

    If there's no god, what possible objective standard of right/wrong could exist?

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    1. Re:There is no god. Let's save the world anyway. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      If there's no god, what possible objective standard of right/wrong could exist?

      Is there a God who doesn't have a internally-contradictory set of moral frameworks?

      Check out The Science of Good and Evil by Michael Shermer for a start. Also check into the recent studies of morality in chimps and bonobos (in the news recently).

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  32. Some call it a "sling-box", I call it a... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I sure do like them French-fried taters...um-hmmmmmm....

  33. On what do you place the fulcrum for your scales? by anomaly · · Score: 1

    I mean no disrespect when I ask this question: Your appeal for a god with no contradiction implies that there is a standard by which god is judged. Don't you see that this very question is self-referential?

    I worship and serve the God who created the universe. I am convinced that when people suggest that He is internally inconsistent that they are taking a simplistic view of God for the purposes of dismissing His relevance. What assumptions do you make when you judge god's moral framework?

    WRT science, the fact that there is some evidence of moral behavior seen in creation makes sense to me based on my world view, although I'd expect it to be pretty faintly seen.

    Respectfully,
    Anomaly

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