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Six Multi-Service IM Clients Reviewed

mikemuch writes "It's been a while since AOL stopped trying to jam third-party IM clients, and their use is now a fairly common desktop experience. ExtremeTech has posted a roundup of free alternatives to the standard IM software from the big boys — AIM, Yahoo Messenger, and MSN (now Windows Live) Messenger. The products are a mixed bag, some of them Web 2.0-based, like the excellent meebo and the ad-heavy eBuddy. Most give you combined message windows with tabs. GAIM is now Pidgin, Meetro tries to get you chatting with locals, and Trillian, now at version 3.1, remains the client to beat."

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  1. And on Mac OS X... by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...as noted in the article but not in the summary, the "client to beat" is the excellent free, open source, GPL-licensed, and highly customizable Adium (more info).

    (The summary does mention the other five of the six clients reviewed in the article.)

    1. Re:And on Mac OS X... by Mattintosh · · Score: 2, Informative

      It hit 1.0 a while back (currently at 1.0.4, I think), and it's definitely the one to beat.

      My only gripe with it so far is that it won't kick my Yahoo user off another client in the (frequent) case that I forgot to shut down my IM client at work and try to use it at home. It has no problem ousting MSN or AIM, and other clients have no trouble with Yahoo either, so I know it's possible. Probably just a bug.

    2. Re:And on Mac OS X... by p0tat03 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Indeed, Adium kicks ass, though what's with the lack of offline messaging support in MSN? It's one of the most-used features of the app, but yet Adium lags far behind in that regard. It's the only thing that sucks about this otherwise tremendously awesome app.

    3. Re:And on Mac OS X... by Kadin2048 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I don't think you should put it that negatively.

      Gaim/Pidgin is broken into two components. It has a library part and a UI part. Most Linux users think of these as one product, but Adium uses the gaimlib backend but then has a very polished Mac frontend that uses it.

      It also incorporates OTR messaging, pretty robust logging features, good account-management ... all in all, its frontend and UI are far better, IMO anyway, than Gaim's is on Linux or Windows. (And it's better than the vendor-supplied clients, obviously ... but sending scraps of your own flesh by carrier pigeon are also better than those bloated nightmares.)

      As far as a user is concerned, Adium is an entirely different product from Gaim/Pidgin, because even though it uses the same communication libraries, all the UI is different.

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    4. Re:And on Mac OS X... by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Informative

      As a recent convert from Windows and Trillian, Adium really impressed me. Fast, non-bloated, gorgeous UI, very customizable. The only thing that Trillian has it beat on is support of video and audio chat.

      Yup, it this is certainly a major feature that is missing. Up until now the developers of Adium have not wanted to touch this, since they say this is not in their realm of expertise. Since Adium is using libpurple, this support will likely come once it is incorporated into the library. This is something which is getting some focus, but I don't know the exact timeline.

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  2. One word by darkwhite · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Kopete?

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  3. bsflite by John+Nowak · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you want a very lightweight text-based IM client for *nix, try bsflite. I've been very happy with it.

    1. Re:bsflite by vhogemann · · Score: 2, Informative

      Try centericq then...

      Despite the name, it does MSN, Yahoo, AIM, Jabber(gTalk)... and ICQ.

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  4. Miranda? by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 5, Informative

    What about Miranda? It starts out minimal, supports all the regular IM service, and lets you extend it as far as you want with addons (there are many to choose from).

    1. Re:Miranda? by flakier · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Beats the bloated trillian hands down. Not only that, source is free =) I can't believe it wasn't part of the article

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    2. Re:Miranda? by arashi+no+garou · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Agreed. My favorite thing about Miranda is that it runs very well from a USB thumb drive. Put it with PortableFirefox, PortableThunderbird and a few other flash-friendly apps and you can take your entire internet desktop with you.

    3. Re:Miranda? by Xeriar · · Score: 2, Informative

      When I load up Miranda (~200 contacts between AIM, ICQ, YIM, MSN, and GTalk), it takes up a whopping three megabytes of RAM.

      Occasionally group features and file sends get broken for some protocols (sadness) but nothing beats its footprint.

  5. Trillian... by morari · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've been using Trillian for years and still like it the best. Gaim is nice in it's simplicity and cross platform use however. I keep trying Kopete but never use it frequently enough to adjust to its little quirks.

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  6. There's no great client. by Poromenos1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I am quite disappointed by the choice of clients. MSN's client is bloated and I've asked them to add an option to STOP THOSE STUPID WINDOWS FROM BLINKING when you get a message when it was back in version 4. It's something like 11 now, and I have yet to see that little option.

    Miranda IM is small and fast, but lacks in features and it has this annoying thing where the send control is disabled for a while after you send a message.

    Trillian is the best of all but still has many bugs (slow, can't disable video/audio plugins which I never use, it doesn't update MSN names, it doesn't use upnp or let you forward ports yourself, etc etc).

    Pidgin is rather nice but it lacks many features as well (ctrl+tabbing through windows never worked for me, pressing escape doesn't close the window, it constantly gets moved to the second screen, is rather slowish, etc).

    It's too bad that with this many clients there isn't a great one. Trillian comes close, but it does need a bit of improvement still.

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    1. Re:There's no great client. by kevlarcoared · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In my opinion the msn client is ctually very good for everything except memory usage and how much CPU power it uses when it logs in (very annoying on dodgy wireless with a slow laptop). I tried pidgin, it crashed on me with in half a hour both times i used it, i haven't touched it since. I plan to try trillian when i get around to downloading and installing it, hopefully i will be pleasantly surprised, i never liked the old versions of it (about 3 years ago was the last time i used it)

    2. Re:There's no great client. by Poromenos1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I would like to retract some of what I said. I just downloaded the latest Miranda version to see how far it had gone and I must say that I am impressed. There are many plugins and it loads in under half a second on my 5 year old machine. I am confident that once I wade through the hundreds (literally) of options, I will have it working just the way I like it. I urge you all to try it. There is even a tabbed windows plugin, it looked good in the default install, I changed an option and now it looks like crap (literally, it's light brown).

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    3. Re:There's no great client. by jacksonj04 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Trillian 4 seems pretty sturdy, and the featureset matches most of the native clients. Sadly all but critical fixes for the 3.x series seem to have ceased in favour of v4 development, but on the plus side it looks to be set to re-affirm Trillian's place as 'the best' of the multi-IM clients.

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  7. adless, one page by froggero1 · · Score: 2, Informative
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  8. pidgon/gaim is the only open source one, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    why would I use some adware instead of open source?

  9. Trillian? by loconet · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In this day an age where Linux on the desktop is more and more common, I don't consider an IM that only works on Windows a serious contender.

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    1. Re:Trillian? by Virgil+Tibbs · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Adium only works on OS X.
      Now THATS a niche market. ..but good on them for filling it...

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  10. bitlbee by weteko · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I personally enjoy bitlbee quite a bit more than any other IM client. Just connect with whatever IRC client you like and there you go! Perfect integration with emacs, no blinky lights, no nothing.

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  11. Trillian by hattig · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I found Trillian to be a horribly bloated, very unstylish, and difficult to configure application.

    It seems that the only pluses it has is that it does modern internet communications media (voice and video) on these networks. I'm hoping that they've fixed the configuration system too since I last tried it.

    Adium on the Mac is pretty damn good, and deserves the 8/10. 9/10 and 10/10 would be Adium with voice and video support respectively. The interface styles are all very sophisticated and configurable, and it's simply very usable.

    And that's what matters, usability. I'd far rather have fewer features that I can use simply, quickly, and easily rather than more features that are exposed poorly via the interface. Of course I'd rather have usability and all the features, but I think that Adium (and the libpurple it's based around) will get voice, video and other proprietary features support at some point.

  12. Yahoo features by Frankie70 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Yahoo client has some features all of
    which aren't available on the other clients.

    - At login time, itself you can invisible. In
    some other clients, I have tried, you have first
    login as visible & then change to invisiblw

    - You can be invisible overall, but just visible
    to one person or a group of people.

    If I find a client in both of these features
    are available, I'll switch.

  13. What about Kopete by elrendermeister · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Oddly missing were a host of good Linux offerings like Kopete (the built in kde client).

  14. Just as a middle finger to the lawyers by Demona · · Score: 4, Funny

    They should have called it PING: Pidgin Is Not Gaim.

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    1. Re:Just as a middle finger to the lawyers by zalas · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about: Pidgin Is Definitely Gaim In Nature
      ?

  15. SIM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Seems like a biased review. Another missing good instant messenger is SIM

  16. E_NOT_RECURSIVE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Sorry but I had to throw an exception on this one; all that trouble and it's not even a recursive acronym? Should try to go for triple recursion!

    PING Is Not GAIM
    GAIM Ain't Incorporating a MOP
    Move On to PING

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  17. QQ by DigiShaman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    QQ and ICQ are very popular in China. I'm not sure why, but I thought I'd mention it.

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  18. Interesting... by helmutvs · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Any one else notice that the only product that got their little "ExtremeTech Approved" logo was Trillian Pro, which costs 25 dollars? An interesting choice for a list of Free clients.

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    1. Re:Interesting... by fbartho · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I used the free version of Trillian for around 3 years before I paid so I could play with the devkit to try to make a plugin. Learned alot from it, messed around with it a good deal, and have yet to see anything better on Windows. I use it to manage 3 aim names 1 yahoo 1 icq 1 msn 1 gmail(gtalk via jabber) 1 livejournal(jabber) accounts that are always connected, and then occasionally use it to access 3 other accounts. I like it's logging, I have around 6 years of conversations with some of my friends, soon to be 7. The only features of the full version I really use today is a message splitter plugin that deals seamlessly with things if I happen to accidentally send a message that is too long. I will seriously consider buying Trillian at it's next release, but the free version is really great.

      I've played with gaim at different times, and I really like it for the fact that it works on many Operating systems, have played with Gaim on Debian, redhat, OSX and windows, but it yet hasn't cut it for me. I don't have time to try to help the project myself right now, but if I had to point at the client with the most potential, it would be GAIM if enough people in the community were to push it, it could outpace Trillian. AdiumX I've enjoyed for mac, but I don't have much stellar to say about it. It's visually quite pleasing.

      All of the clients I've tried have had very frustrating experiences with file-transfer to other non-identical clients. Trillian seems to work best with trillian, gaim with gaim, and adiumx with adiumx. Ditto for Video/Audio and finally, possibly the most frustrating, is the non-existence of a good encryption system that is client independent. If somebody does put that out there, so that clients can interoperate in complete secured privacy, I would switch over immediately, and advocate the encryption of all my e-mail.

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  19. Pigdin and the windows version by AntiTuX · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anyone else notice that they stated that there wasn't a windows version of Pidgin?

    1. Re:Pigdin and the windows version by SeaFox · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Anyone else notice that they stated that there wasn't a windows version of Pidgin?


      I noticed it. But they did remember to mention that the Mac installation was "complicated".
      I also saw them mention that the Yahoo mail checking didn't work. Hmmm, works fine for me.
  20. Re:have you heard the latest? by Aladrin · · Score: 2, Funny

    That was 2000 years ago! It's improved since then. Have him try it again.

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  21. Several More Words by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Kopete, Miranda, Proteus, Fire.

    Their list of 6 is pretty sparse..

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  22. Trillian is slow by VGfort · · Score: 2, Informative

    Try having 200+ or 400+ people on Trillian and its slow as hell to load. Pidgin, loads them all up within a few seconds. Trillian is awesome, but I got tired of it having to load.

  23. Re:No plugins in Adium? by VGPowerlord · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's OK, according to the table at the end of the article, Pidgin can't be installed on Windows, even though they tested using the Windows version.

    Which I think tells a lot about this report's accuracy.

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  24. Just happens to use "Gaim" code by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I thought that adium was basically gaim restyle to match OSX, in which case it would sort of be cheating to list it separately from gaim/pidgin. I didn't realize there were any other differences..

    Other than the common dependency on the same library, known as libpurple (as it is now known), they are very different. You should think of Adium as third-party IM that happens to use libpurple. Adium has already used other libraries for features that libpurple just didn't implement well or at all. The Adium developer work closely with the developers of the Pidgin/libpurple project, ensuring fixes, bug reporting et al.

    It should be noted that the separation into Pidgin and libpurple is recent, but that an unofficial libgaim had existed before this separation, and this is what Adium used. The Pidgin team, at about the same time as Gaim got renamed, split the UI and the core logic into two units, in order to facilitate development. There are now three projects that officially used libpurple, these being Pidgin (UI for Linux, Windows and possibly others, where X11 is present), Finch (CLI UI) and Adium (MacOS specific).

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