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Bones Could Become Conduits For Data Swaps

Billosaur writes "New Scientist Tech has an intriguing article about researchers at Rice University in Houston, TX who are looking at ways to use the human skeleton to transmit data. The idea is to use bones to conduct sound waves, with 0's and 1's being represented by different frequencies. Preliminary results, shared with a conference on body networks in Florence, Italy, this week, show that bones can conduct even low-power vibrations with few errors. The idea is that the conduction of sound along bone would be more secure than that via radio waves, leading to the possibility of swapping data with someone by shaking their hand."

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  1. That makes sense. by hkgroove · · Score: 4, Funny

    I knew they got it wrong. Tinfoil does not stop the transmissions to my teeth!

    1. Re:That makes sense. by monk.e.boy · · Score: 4, Funny

      My bone already has the ability to pass enough data to make a baby.

      But not through a hand shake.

      Insert joke about hand shandy.

      :-P

      monk.e.boy

  2. when it breaks by qw0ntum · · Score: 3, Funny

    Lends new meaning to the term "broken pipe."

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  3. I can see this really taking off by grahamsz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    An implanted vibrator that would allow me to securely send data from my phone to someone elses phone. Really, how often does bluetooth actually fail to beam a business card?

    Also I'd expect that the vibrations would exit through your feet and allow for snooping from ground based devices.

    I can see the potential in the medical device field.

    1. Re:I can see this really taking off by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're thinking too small. Think "Data Centers in graveyards".

      Think of the possibilities: Even after death, you could live on as an Ethernet cable for an AOL mail server!

    2. Re:I can see this really taking off by grahamsz · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Cross talk would be a killer if you tried to put a DC in a graveyard using low frequency FSK signalling.

      Bass frequencies tend to travel through anything dense.

    3. Re:I can see this really taking off by hobo+sapiens · · Score: 4, Funny

      no way, dude! Zombie computers would take on a whole new, different, and frightening meaning.

      And remember, when trying to escape a level 4 zombie outbreak, a dirigible is an excellent means of escape.

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    4. Re:I can see this really taking off by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Funny

      An implanted vibrator that would allow me to securely send data from my phone

      We're talking about permanently implanting a vibrator and communicating with your phone is the best idea you can come up with?

      Also I'd expect that the vibrations would exit through your feet and allow for snooping from ground based devices.

      Your average shoe has a chunk of closed-cell foam rubber in it, I doubt it.

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    5. Re:I can see this really taking off by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Funny

      An implanted vibrator

      Sorry, you completely lost me after that. That's just so wrong. ;-)

      Cheers
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    6. Re:I can see this really taking off by instanto · · Score: 2, Funny

      A Beowulf Cluster of Zombies!

      Sign me up!

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  4. Re:How long before the first virus? by epistemiclife · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It would rather suck if we became weary of handshaking for fear of filling our interfaced electronic devices with spam or (computer) viruses. I suppose that, in a bizarre way, it's a way for computer viruses to become human viruses.

  5. Great by shoptroll · · Score: 2

    Just what we need... an excuse for the MAFIAA to subpoena our bodies for network traffic analysis.

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  6. as a software pirate let me just say by thegnu · · Score: 4, Funny

    Arrrrrr! Shiver me timbers!

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  7. Funny... by Fx.Dr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The vast majority of people I meet can barely transmit their own data through their brains.

  8. More details... by Tmack · · Score: 5, Funny
    During their extensive research and experiments, scientists discovered that sharing information between two people worked best with direct pelvis to pelvis contact, and have coined the term "PtoP" networking...

    tm

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  9. Muahahahaha by Experiment+626 · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, human bones can be used to transmit data? Now, not only does my necromantic fortress of doom's decor scare the crap out of my enemies, I can save a fortune on cat-5 and fiber cabling.

  10. Obligatory by thegnu · · Score: 3, Funny

    Incoming Squirt!
    Cancel or Allow?

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  11. Re:Who funded this? by Otter · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I need to find out who funded this research. With the chance for practical usage ever at about 0.001%, it's clear that someone just has money to piss away if this is the research they're doing.

    As is frequently the case here (think yesterday's story about the judge supposedly demanding that RAM be turned over), if you read a blurb here and think "If true, that person must be really stupid!", it's worth R'ingTFA.

    As usual, the submitter completely missed the point of the link.

  12. Weather Prediction. by pavon · · Score: 3, Funny

    A storm's a-coming, I can feel it in ma bones.

    Yeah yeah gramps, we all can. It's just the hourly SkyNet Subcutaneous Weather update.

    Galdarn kids these days, no respect.

  13. Uh.. by le0p · · Score: 2, Funny

    I anticipate a lot of uncomfortable conversations about "boning."

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  14. What would the interchange be called by grahamsz · · Score: 3, Funny

    We're using to "beaming" ecards to one another. The zune lets you "squirt" things.

    Logically we'd have to say "Let me bone you my business card", and i'm not sure i like that.

    1. Re:What would the interchange be called by ls+-la · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Logically we'd have to say "Let me bone you my business card", and i'm not sure i like that. Just depends who the recipient is.
  15. Sound vibration through bones is old tech by problah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I believe it was made illegal in the 50's-60's in Canada because it was though to cause bone (cartilage) degridation, and arthritis.

    Transmitting 1's an 0's is new, as these were originally made to hear music throughout your entire body. If someone has a link, I don't, but I heard about this from my grandparents when I was younger.

  16. Re:How long before the first virus? by Cornflake917 · · Score: 2, Funny

    leading to the possibility of swapping data with someone by shaking their hand. A new, disgusting way of obtaining porn.

    "Here's Shaving Ryan's Privates: Midget Edition."

    "Sweet thanks!"

    *Squish*

    "...ummm, what the hell. Did you wash your hands?"

    "Oops!"
  17. What about other body rumblings? by goombah99 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Belch at the wrong time any you one-click purchased a lot 1000 beanie babys on e-bay. Farts cause a seg fault.

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  18. Health issues? by incer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What about health issues? And how does it work out with diseases (or disfunctions) like Osteoporosis and Arthritis?

  19. Incorrect, misleading claim by Toffins · · Score: 2, Interesting
    There is something badly wrong with this article and it reflects very badly on the standard of journalism in New Scientist magazine. The article suggests that using bone vibrations to send messages is necessarily secure (against interception) because interception requires direct physical contact. However, that claim simply is not true. It should be obviously untrue from an understanding of elementary physics.

    Think what happens when the device is operating. The vibrations it generates will propagate as sound waves not only into the adjacent bone but also into the air surrounding the device. With the right microphones and signal processing techniques it will certainly be possible to intercept the airborne sound waves at significant distances from the device (depending on ambient noise level, sound pressure level, internal body noise as a function of motions of body parts and clothing, etc).

    Claiming that the device provides secure communication is wrong and potentially very misleading e.g. to any investors who read this article. I doubt the quote attributed to Liebschner is accurate given that this is only an article in that disappointingly woolly thinking New Scientist magazine.

  20. another verison of this from 1996 by fikx · · Score: 3, Informative

    quoted from the write-up: "... The idea is that the conduction of sound along bone would be more secure that via radio waves, leading to the possibility of swapping data with someone by shaking their hand."
    This general idea was also tackled by Thomas Zimmerman doing research for IBM. His idea did the same thing using signals carried on the skin (which didn't need the FIRM handshake to work :) Not sure how that compares to this, but both manage the same trick
    Here's a link : PAN Fact Sheet

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  21. New RIAA tactic by frdmfghtr · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now when the RIAA sues you for "an arm and a leg," they won't be kidding!

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  22. Re:How long before the first virus? by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Here's Shaving Ryan's Privates: Midget Edition."

    Link please?

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  23. File Sharing! by railbaron · · Score: 2, Funny

    Come on, everybody! Group Hug! :)

  24. Re:virus alert by DriveDog · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Bow until heads touch... much more sonically conductive path than through a handshake. Substitute head lice for viruses transmitted. Thicker skulls probably work better. As usual, those with the least information share the most.