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Giant Penguins Once Roamed Peru

Douglas Roberts points out as "obvious Linux fodder" the coverage of a study just published in PNAS claiming that, on fossil evidence, giant penguins once stalked the plains of Peru. One species goes back over 40 million years and its members were as large as modern king penguins. They were warm adapted. Members of another species, 30 million years ago, stood 5 feet high and made their living spearfishing with their 1-foot beaks. Here's an artist's impression.

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  1. I for one blah blah by Mikachu · · Score: 5, Funny

    I, welcome, overlords, etc.

    Now that that's out of the way, we can actually have a serious discussion about this

    (just kidding)

    1. Re:I for one blah blah by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny
      Now that that's out of the way, we can actually have a serious discussion about this

      Is it ok if we imagine a Beowulf cluster of them first?

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    2. Re:I for one blah blah by Mikachu · · Score: 3, Funny

      Of course not, my mother died that way, you insensitive clod!

    3. Re:I for one blah blah by laejoh · · Score: 5, Funny

      In Soviet Russia a Beowulf cluster of Giant Penguins roam you?

    4. Re:I for one blah blah by remmelt · · Score: 4, Funny

      I call BS! The earth is not older than 2000 years, so man and astroman and dinosaurs and now giant penguins roamed the earth TOGETHER! In harmony!

    5. Re:I for one blah blah by martinussen · · Score: 1

      But do they mascot for Linux?

    6. Re:I for one blah blah by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      You know even the most crazed Bible Nut who realizes the world is over 2,000 years, Just due to the fact that Jesus was around 2000 years ago, and people have been alive before him.

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    7. Re:I for one blah blah by FireIron · · Score: 1

      we can actually have a serious discussion about this

      You must be new blah blah

    8. Re:I for one blah blah by Cctoide · · Score: 1

      You forgot Poland's penguins.

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    9. Re:I for one blah blah by M8e · · Score: 1

      You are correct, the world is older than 2000 years. It is in fact 2008,3 year old.

    10. Re:I for one blah blah by neonmonk · · Score: 1

      Netcraft confirms it: Giant Prehistoric Penguins Are Dead.

    11. Re:I for one blah blah by jamstar7 · · Score: 1

      I, welcome, overlords, etc.

      Now that that's out of the way, we can actually have a serious discussion about this

      (just kidding)

      But do they run Linux????

      But foolishly, expecting serious conversations on /. is about as likely as hitting the Lottery. Possible, but not bloody likely.

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    12. Re:I for one blah blah by utopianfiat · · Score: 1

      will they run vista blah blah

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    13. Re:I for one blah blah by leonem · · Score: 1

      Surely that should be 'In Soviet Russia, a Beowulf cluster of Giant Penguins imagines you'.

    14. Re:I for one blah blah by yaminb · · Score: 1

      You're obviously joking, but I see this ridicule about biblical beliefs way too often.

      Let's start with the hypothesis that GOD said 'poof' and the Earth was made exactly 2000 years ago.
      It must have been created in some initial state. This initial state includes rocks, sand, water, trees...
      Why could fossils not have been part of this initial state?

      The initial state can in fact be anything. You can even say God started the universe by created the initial energy in the big bang. It is all very consistent with religion. GOD cannot be proven or disproven. Science can never contradict the existence of GOD.

      By all means mock belief in GOD :) But there is nothing more intelligent/scientific about disbelief.

    15. Re:I for one blah blah by sgt_doom · · Score: 1
      Bloody hell!@!!

      How did those Giant Penguins end up in North America?? Specifically, at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in a big white house????

      "A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves." Edward R. Murrow

    16. Re:I for one blah blah by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      will they run vista blah blah

      The researchers didn't find windows in prehistoric Peru.
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    17. Re:I for one blah blah by PixieDust · · Score: 1
      As this whole thread is quite offtopic, I figure my karma can take the hit.

      The people who are self-proclaimed "Young Earthers" actually take a stance of the earth being roughly 6,000-10,000 years old. They totally ignore/refute carbon dating practices NOT by saing that God "could have just made it that way" (which, while annoyingly convenient, would at least be irrefutable), but by instead attacking the reliability of the science behind it. The subscribers of this particular belief system take pretty much everything in the Bible (insert your favorite Bible distro here) quite literally. They therefore trace from the very beginning of time, from creation, to 7 days later, then trace the path of every birth and death that is listed in the Bible, all the way to the birth and death of Christ ~2,000 years ago. Since we know that point in time (or at least have based our entire calendar system on it, even the secular descriptions of BCE(Before Common Era) and CE (Common Era) stop and start at the exact same time) the 2,000 years is added to their already defined age of the Earth at Christ's birth.

      The interesting thing to note, is that while they take the age to be quite literal, other things in the Bible, that if taken literal, wouldn't make any sense, are suddenly "metaphorical".

      Sometimes you find people that take EVERYTHING literally, and indeed still view the earth as seen here in this drawing . Flat Earthers, Young Earthers, Old Earthers, Orthodox, Reformed Orthodox, Catholic, Protestant, and the myriad of others that would take too long to list, all have some quirk that's kind of interesting. Being a non-Christian myself, I find the Orthodox church probably the easiest, well versed, and more intelligent reasonable faith, and were I ever to begin following Christianity again, it would likely be as a member of the Orthodox church (since there is no room for people like me, however, that's not bloody likely!).

      Perhaps the single best defense, and argument, I've EVER heard from someone "defending the faith" is that science essentially teaches us (when we get to the nuts and bolts of things) that we can't really ever know anything for certain (at least such is our current understanding of things). God said that without him, nothing is certain, and nothing can be known, for humanity is flawed (way to go there big guy!). I'm paraphrasing the argument, but it always struck me as possibly the best counter I've ever heard to various things that aim to poke holes in creationsist ideals. It is impossible at present, to either prove, or to disprove the existence of "God". But it sure can make for some interesting, and educational discourse with people capable of forming rational thoughts, and more than the simple "Because God said so!" or because "I can't see, taste, smell, hear, or feel God, therefore he does not exist" arguments which get nothing accomplished.

      I actually learned how to type years ago in a channel on Undernet devoted entirely to religious debate, and discussion. I still occasionally venture there today for some good verbal sparring. I personally loved the discussion over Intelligent Design, and a decision that was handed down some years ago, and the flaming I took for my position of "Well, ok if you believe that fine, but it belongs in a theology class, not the science class." After some pretty brutal exchanges (I say brutal because some people were quite upset that I was able to pick apart their "but, but, but, it's SCIENCE, not religion!" assertions, then promptly said "You know what, I agree. It is science. Furthermore, I want this included as well. After all, we must give ALL scientifically founded theories of Intelligent Design equal footing in our science classes."

      Amazingly enough, many of them did laugh and appreciate the joke. They still thought it should be accepted as "there was no scientific proof to RULE OUT intelligent design". The fact tha

    18. Re:I for one blah blah by mqduck · · Score: 1

      Surely that should be, "In Soviet Peru a Beowulf cluster of Giant Penguins imagines you."

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    19. Re:I for one blah blah by mqduck · · Score: 1

      Let's start with the hypothesis that GOD said 'poof' and the Earth was made exactly 2000 years ago.
      It must have been created in some initial state. This initial state includes rocks, sand, water, trees...
      Why could fossils not have been part of this initial state?

      This idea is weak to me.

      1) Time is an illusion. There is no past, only now. The past exists only in its echoes in the present.
      2) Therefore, the difference between what "really was" and what there is only EVIDENCE for (perfect, not mistaken evidence) is imaginary.

      Okay, if you don't buy that, then theres a more sensible argument: If this really is the case, it's completely inconsequential. If the Universe was created with a pre-existing past, that past is just as studiable as the "real" past. And don't you find it strange that this "imaginary" past leads us to an "imaginary" origin: the Big Bang? Why wouldn't "GOD" just have started it there? To quote a Mr. Adams, this "real" origin disappears in a poof of logic.

      GOD cannot be proven or disproven.

      Maybe not, but if everything can (at least in theory) be explained, then the existence of "GOD" is similarly inconsequential.

      By all means mock belief in GOD :)

      Will do. :)

      But there is nothing more intelligent/scientific about disbelief.

      But science renders belief in "GOD" irrelevant.
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    20. Re:I for one blah blah by vuffi_raa · · Score: 1

      how am I supposed to believe that when the penguins weren't in the creation museum.

    21. Re:I for one blah blah by zobier · · Score: 2, Funny

      I believe "In Soviet Russia a Beowulf cluster of Giant Penguins imagines you once roamed prehistoric Peru" sums it up best.

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  2. End of the line. by Funkcikle · · Score: 4, Funny

    Obviously the end result of an unpopular fork.

    1. Re:End of the line. by Tatarize · · Score: 3, Funny

      That's it. It's over. Evolution has jumped the shark.

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    2. Re:End of the line. by tsa · · Score: 1

      I bet CowboyNeal killed them all.

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    3. Re:End of the line. by Funkcikle · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nah. Just Bigpengian was deprecated in favour of Littlepengian.

    4. Re:End of the line. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I kept trying to warn them about bloat, but nobody listens to a lowly AC.

    5. Re:End of the line. by DarkSarin · · Score: 1

      that is just bad...

      seriously, just stop.

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    6. Re:End of the line. by 1u3hr · · Score: 2, Funny

      They're not dead. They're pining for the fjords.

    7. Re:End of the line. by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      That's it. It's over. Evolution has jumped the shark.

      But did that shark have a frigging laser attached to its head?
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  3. Giant Ancient Penguins are Linux fodder? by suv4x4 · · Score: 3, Funny

    We're hopelessly desperate, aren't we.

    Damn.

    1. Re:Giant Ancient Penguins are Linux fodder? by Cozminsky · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yep, this was neither humorous or linux related. Not saying it wasn't slashdot worthy, but please.

    2. Re:Giant Ancient Penguins are Linux fodder? by Threni · · Score: 1

      > We're hopelessly desperate, aren't we.

      Yeah - they probably died out in the face of inferior penguins with better marketing.

    3. Re:Giant Ancient Penguins are Linux fodder? by Ngarrang · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is clearly a case of too many Penguin distros for the ecology to support. Once Mother Nature focused her efforts on few variations, she was able to increase the usage of the remaining distros.

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    4. Re:Giant Ancient Penguins are Linux fodder? by jamstar7 · · Score: 3, Funny

      We're hopelessly desperate, aren't we.

      Starting to look that way.

      Know any good sites I can bittorrent a life from?

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  4. Stalked ? by kgp_crap · · Score: 5, Funny

    Stalked the plains of Peru ?? WTF ? Penguins ? Hunting what ? Wilder beasts ? At least the article says that they just 'roamed' the deserts .

    1. Re:Stalked ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hunting what ?

      Tiny polar bears. Those penguins could eat several per day.
    2. Re:Stalked ? by dreamchaser · · Score: 1

      Penguins *are* predators you know, but maybe 'waddled the plains of Peru' would have been more apt.

    3. Re:Stalked ? by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Funny

      Stalked the plains of Peru ?? WTF ? Penguins ? Look, all I'm saying is anything big enough to hunt geographic features, I don't wanna fuck with it, ok?
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    4. Re:Stalked ? by Ngarrang · · Score: 1

      Stalked the plains of Peru ?? WTF ? Penguins ? Hunting what ? Wilder beasts ? At least the article says that they just 'roamed' the deserts . Look at how surprised Microsoft was of the success of Linux. Stalked is the correct wording. *grin*
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    5. Re:Stalked ? by Wookietim · · Score: 3, Funny

      I get the mental picture of packs of giant penguins, roaming the deserts of Peru. Suddenly, the lead Penguin sees a pack of antelope grazing in the field ahead of it. Stealthily, the pack creeps up on them when - suddenly! 5 five foot tall penguins leap into action, running at speeds close to 1 mile per hour, and the kill is over - The Antelope will eat well tonight!

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    6. Re:Stalked ? by Deadstick · · Score: 1
      The Denver Post nailed the headline perfectly:

      Prodigious Penguins Populated Prehistoric Peru

      rj

    7. Re:Stalked ? by steveo777 · · Score: 1

      Best comment on Slashdot this morning. Thanks

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    8. Re:Stalked ? by Tired+and+Emotional · · Score: 1

      Yep - when your herd of giant penguins had passed, there was nothing left but stalks.

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    9. Re:Stalked ? by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      little beasties and billy-boys....to sodomize

    10. Re:Stalked ? by rubycodez · · Score: 1

      Gene had man-titties? ewww........

  5. Yes, but... by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 4, Funny

    did they run Linux? ;-)

    1. Re:Yes, but... by RuBLed · · Score: 4, Funny

      something that bloated could never run efficiently...

    2. Re:Yes, but... by Corporate+Troll · · Score: 1

      You mean that they ran Vista? ;-)

    3. Re:Yes, but... by deetsay · · Score: 1

      It was in fact the GNU that did most of the running on the plains. They were also the ones that came up with the GNU Giant Penguin Licence that let them all run anywhere in the first place. The penguins would mostly just race down the snowy mountainsides of the Andes. Especially Tux.

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    4. Re:Yes, but... by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      No they ran in HURDS

    5. Re:Yes, but... by tsa · · Score: 1

      They were wary of Gnus, I bet!

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    6. Re:Yes, but... by Zaatxe · · Score: 1

      Penguins don't run, silly!

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    7. Re:Yes, but... by samsonov · · Score: 1

      Did they fly? ;)

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    8. Re:Yes, but... by jma05 · · Score: 1

      > did they run Linux? ;-)

      Run, at that size with a waddle gait? No, they only 'roamed' Linux.

  6. Crap by xhydra · · Score: 5, Funny

    "made their living spearfishing"
    Oh is that so???

    And in other more recent news fossil evidence found England has indicated that 60 million years ago
    apples grew to a astounnding circumference of 2 metres...... Fodder for Mac-Fanboys

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  7. obligatory Monty Python by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 5, Funny

    First Old Woman: Well, what's on the television then.

    Second Old Woman: Looks like a giant 5 foot tall prehistoric penguin.

    First Old Woman: No No No not what's on the television set - I mean what programme?

    1. Re:obligatory Monty Python by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Well, maybe penguins can afford smaller brains because they use them more efficiently ... :-)

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  8. 40 million years? by edwardpickman · · Score: 1

    Linux has been around longer than I thought!

    1. Re:40 million years? by StarfishOne · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it was *huge* back then :P

  9. I apologize by jmitchel!jmitchel.co · · Score: 4, Funny

    Imagine a beowulf cluster of those.

  10. suggested name.. by 12357bd · · Score: 1

    Let's call it BigOldLinus.

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    1. Re:suggested name.. by xhydra · · Score: 3, Funny

      1. linusaurus
      2. Torvaldosaur

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  11. Shameless plug by dargaud · · Score: 4, Interesting

    OK, anyone who wants some more penguin info can check out my sig and the associated FAQ... I just want to add that this is not the first time that penguin fossils are discovered, and some larger than the Emperor penguins (actual largest species) are known.

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    1. Re:Shameless plug by moosesocks · · Score: 1

      Wow. I've seen that page (and your entire site) before, although I'm pretty sure I stumbled across it on Google.

      Your Antarctica pages were what initially spurred my interest in arctic and polar science. I guess I should properly thank you for that, given that it's more likely than not going to be my focus in Grad school, and a sort of long-term career goal...

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    2. Re:Shameless plug by dargaud · · Score: 1

      This way you'll know who to blame as you're freezing to death with a broken snowmachine in a polar storm... C;-)

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  12. about Penguins by buitre · · Score: 3, Informative

    for those who want to learn more about penguins check out this new book. http://www.harpercollins.com/books/9780060891268/S mithsonian_Q__A_Penguins/index.aspx the author is one of the leading experts on penguins. Claus

    1. Re:about Penguins by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      re:"the author is one of the leading experts on penguins"

      Nice work if you can get it I suppose.

    2. Re:about Penguins by Bill+Dog · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm the other leading expert. All penguins do is waddle and shit.

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    3. Re:about Penguins by gymell · · Score: 1
      All penguins do is waddle and shit.

      And in doing so, accomplish more than you.

    4. Re:about Penguins by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      However, scientists have found out that the penguins' waddling is more energy efficient than our walking (and no, that's not a joke, although I'm now too lazy to search for a reference).

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  13. Footprint too big by weinrich · · Score: 3, Funny

    Let this be a reverse-anthromorphic lesson to everyone in the Linux community: People care about size! Once your on-disk image gets too big (5-foot tall??) your fork will ultimately go extinct.

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  14. beowulf check, overloards check, oh you forgot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    in soviet Russia, giant penguins roam you!

  15. Global Warming. by Karganeth · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have no doubt that these penguins no longer roam there thanks to man made Global Warming. We must immediately lower our CO2 emissions and cripple our economic growth.

    1. Re:Global Warming. by Atheose · · Score: 1

      What is it about humanity that we feel the need to cram more and more and more stuff into the same space?


      You mean basic natural instincts, that ALL animals have? Growth is a biproduct of reproduction, and reproduction is performed by, you know, everything.
    2. Re:Global Warming. by nschubach · · Score: 1

      I don't know. I think it might be kind of fun to be small... even half my current size. Imagine the lower cost of a house only half the normal size. Heck, you could buy a full size house, double the floors and halve the rooms and you have a mansion!

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    3. Re:Global Warming. by Klaus_1250 · · Score: 1

      We must immediately lower our CO2 emissions and cripple our economic growth. That's short term thinking. There are plenty of ways to reduce CO2 emissions without crippling economic growth. one simple example: In the Netherlands, they started reusing industry produced CO2 in greenhouses, instead of having greenhouses producing their own CO2 by burning natural gas. Less CO2 emission and lower costs. Second, what's the use of economic growth if it is not sustainable in the long term and the externalities outweigh your benefits?
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    4. Re:Global Warming. by RenderSeven · · Score: 1

      I replaced all my incandescent bulbs with twirly bulbs. Now I have less CO2 emissions and more money!
      No you do NOT have more money, since you bought the bulbs. They will begin to pay for themselves when your investment is paid off in maybe 5 years (more or less). Since they took energy to produce (and you already had the incandescents) you are running an energy/carbon deficit, until THAT is paid off as well. In a few years, when the next big mindless panic hits and twirly bulbs are outlawed because of the mercury and lead content, you'll have to go buy LED bulbs, and pay toxic waste fees to dispose of your oh-so-eco-friendly twirly bulbs. I wouldn't be surprised that GE already has the sample legislation written and the toxic waste fee structure worked out, using a blind offshore manufacturer as legal cover.
    5. Re:Global Warming. by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      I have no doubt that these penguins no longer roam there thanks to man made Global Warming.

      Actually it was just the prohibitively high roaming fees.
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  16. "It's Funny" ?! by godfra · · Score: 1

    There's nothing funny about this, it's terrifying!

  17. Category? by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 1

    Stalked the plains of Peru ?? WTF ? Penguins ? Hunting what ? Wilder beasts ? At least the article says that they just 'roamed' the deserts . I think you should keep in mind that the category this story was filed under is: 'Slashdot :: Entertainment :: It's funny. Laugh.' before you get to excited.
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  18. Pingo Sapiens? by edittard · · Score: 5, Funny

    An upright posture frees the forelimbs from walking duties. Imagine if these had evolved to be tool users then tool makers. They might have developed computers, and an OS with a mostly hairless ape for a mascot.

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    1. Re:Pingo Sapiens? by codeButcher · · Score: 4, Funny

      Can't imagine anyone having Ballmer for a mascot......

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    2. Re:Pingo Sapiens? by Himring · · Score: 1

      And/or might've born a striking resemblence to danny daveto....

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    3. Re:Pingo Sapiens? by G+Morgan · · Score: 1

      He could sit on the sidelines shouting 'Developers, Developers, Developers' and throw a few chairs around when they lose.

      First they have to purchase the IP for the Ballmer mascot off MS though, apparently the staff are quite attached to him.

    4. Re:Pingo Sapiens? by jb.hl.com · · Score: 1

      Ximian were kinda halfway there.

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  19. Way cool! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll take a dozen, please! :)

    Can they be taught basic police dog techniques?

    Or, better yet, martial arts?

    I mean, you put a sharp metal edge on those... wings and you've got, well, something that rocks.

    Hah! Marching Penguin Bladed Wing Attack! Pow!

    1. Re:Way cool! by arachnoprobe · · Score: 1

      sharp metal edge? laaaaame. Mount a Laser on them! Friggin laser-penguins!

    2. Re:Way cool! by bmo · · Score: 1

      "Or, better yet, martial arts?"

      If you teach them Tae Kwan Leep, they can give BillG and StevieB a boot to the head.

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    3. Re:Way cool! by jimicus · · Score: 1

      Marching Penguin Bladed Wing Attack! Pow!

      Wasn't there something like that in one of the Street Fighter games?

    4. Re:Way cool! by ezzewezza · · Score: 1

      I mean, you put a sharp metal edge on those... wings and you've got, well, something that rocks. It's more of a waddle, but yeah, they do kind of rock back and forth.
    5. Re:Way cool! by wizzahd · · Score: 1

      Pfft, blades are so 20th century. How about giant penguins with frikkin laser beams attached to their frikkin heads?

    6. Re:Way cool! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      I think you have me confused with someone else.

  20. Artists impression by mrjb · · Score: 4, Funny

    Because they were depicted as penguins the artist decided for black-and-white. However common these are as animal colors around the polar circle. If these creatures were adapted to living in a hotter environment, most likely they would have followed a color scheme that would better hide them from predators.

    Or else they would have gone extinct. Oh wait. Never mind.

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    1. Re:Artists impression by iHasaFlavour · · Score: 5, Interesting

      not neccesarily. They fished so the exact same colour scheme would have been effective for exactly the same reasons. Penguins are not black and white to protect themselves from land predators, but from sea based ones. Nor are they white underneath because of there being ice above them, since benguins that rarely go near iced up seas are also white on their bellies.

      Aside from that, their primary defense in water is the ability to swim jolly fast, not hide. On land they wouldn't be able to get up to anything more then a frantic waddle. No matter what colour you are that's not going to be helpful. Escape to water is about the only thing that'd work.

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    2. Re:Artists impression by Quelain · · Score: 2, Informative

      Black and white is a common colour scheme for all sorts of fishing birds. For example, some cormorants around here are black and white:

      http://www.amonline.net.au/factsheets/little_pied_ cormorant.htm

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    3. Re:Artists impression by loic_2003 · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Because they were depicted as penguins the artist decided for black-and-white. However common these are as animal colors around the polar circle. If these creatures were adapted to living in a hotter environment, most likely they would have followed a color scheme that would better hide them from predators."

      This is true; one only has to look at the herds of zebras floating on icebergs in the artic to confirm this is the case...

    4. Re:Artists impression by nschubach · · Score: 3, Funny

      On land they wouldn't be able to get up to anything more then a frantic waddle. No matter what colour you are that's not going to be helpful.
      What if you were some sort of paisley patterned tie die color. Simply waddling might make the predator nauseous and vomit instead of chasing after you. ;)
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    5. Re:Artists impression by mrjb · · Score: 2, Funny

      Even seen a zebra on an iceberg? No? See how well those colors work to blend into the environment ;)

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    6. Re:Artists impression by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 1

      Perhaps the artist looked at modern-day Peruvian Penguins, which are also black (to brown) and white;

      http://images.google.com/images?um=1&tab=wi&client =safari&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=en&q=peruvian%20peng uin

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    7. Re:Artists impression by hedgemage · · Score: 1

      The color scheme is a function of the many fancy dinner parties that penguins have to attend. The major threat to penguins today isn't global climate change, but rather "casual Fridays".

  21. Giant penguins with... by pandrijeczko · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...frickin' laser beams on their heads!

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  22. Wow. by CristalShandaLear · · Score: 1

    ...giant penguins once stalked the plains of Peru

    But did they sing or tap dance to a Prince soundtrack or have Morgan Freeman, God Himself, provide narration?

    1. Re:Wow. by Farmer+Tim · · Score: 1

      But did they sing or tap dance

      Indeed they did. That's why they had to die.

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  23. But were they of the electric variety? by Devar · · Score: 1

    I hope they were. Giant electric penguins.

    See Ensign Oates' frank adult death struggle with the spine-chilling giant electric penguin...!

    Oates looks up in horror, a shadow crosses him. Reverse shot of model penguin (quite small, about a foot) which lights up and looks electric. The penguin is close to the camera in the foreground and appears huge. Oates looks around desperately then starts to undress. Shot of penguin throwing tentacle. Half-nude Oates struggles with it. Intercut a lot of phoney reverses. Oates by now clad only in posing briefs sees a stone. He picks up the stone, then camera zooms into above-naval shot; he removes his briefs, puts the stone in the briefs, twirls it like a sling, and releases stone. The penguin is hit on beak, and falls over backwards.

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  24. They probably left by Rik+Sweeney · · Score: 3, Funny

    when Cameron Diaz insulted them with another one of her bags.

  25. better than giant balmers by bl8n8r · · Score: 1

    of course, a 1.5 meter tall Baldy jumping around the stage at a keynote doesn't seem very foreboding.

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  26. Cuprits by blenderking · · Score: 1

    The Chatow brothers are behind this...

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  27. Star Control by LSD-OBS · · Score: 1

    They appear to be Pkunk. I wonder where their re-incarnations will respawn?

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  28. Adam Sandler had it right... by eharvill · · Score: 1
    From Billy Madison

    It's too damn hot for a penguin to be just walkin' around. I gotta send you back to the South Pole.
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  29. Caption? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    The graphic in the NG is just screaming out for a caption - any ideas?

  30. Cormorant? by DarkRecluse · · Score: 1

    Why does the larger penguin look similar to a galapagos flightless cormorant with an elongated beak? Plus the location would seem to fit...too bad I'm basing this entirely on an artist's rendering and not hard evidence like...bones.

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    1. Re:Cormorant? by KokorHekkus · · Score: 2, Informative

      You mean bones like the skull show in the very same photogallery as the artist's rendering? http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/06/ph otogalleries/giant-penguins/index.html

    2. Re:Cormorant? by DarkRecluse · · Score: 1

      No I meant the horrible pun...

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  31. "back over 40 million years" by tucolino · · Score: 1, Funny

    whoa! that was definitely the year of the linux desktop!

  32. Re:beowulf check, overloards check, oh you forgot. by Zaatxe · · Score: 1

    Damn! I got here too late!!
    There was even Monty Python reference and "did it run Linux?"...

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  33. I wonder how they taste by wiredog · · Score: 1

    with Hot Grits.

  34. Re:beowulf check, overloards check, oh you forgot. by nwbvt · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't forget:

    1. Find ancient species of giant penguins
    2. ???
    3. PROFIT!

    And:
    Netcraft confirms that all giant penguins are dead.

    And last but not least:
    The last one was killed after Steve Ballmer threw a chair at it and swore "I'm going to f***ing kill the giant penguins"

    Those were a lot funnier in my mind. And they weren't even very funny there...

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  35. This would have been more worthy of Slashdot by niceone · · Score: 3, Funny

    If the archaeologists had found some evidence of what distro they preferred.

  36. This proves it... by phagstrom · · Score: 5, Funny

    Linux predates Microsoft's patents.

    I guess there is no way we're going to have a serious discussion on this subject.

    1. Re:This proves it... by Aqua_boy17 · · Score: 1
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  37. But if you want to own one... by clickety6 · · Score: 1

    .. you'll need a Giant Penguin License...

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    1. Re:But if you want to own one... by catdevnull · · Score: 1

      You would also need a really big bag of Purina Giant Penguin Chow!

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  38. rss feeds.. by uolamer · · Score: 1

    I have several RSS feeds on my start page.. including CNN, Slashdot, and The Onion.. Some times.. The Onion looks more like the news site..

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  39. Still dreaming by Fission86 · · Score: 1

    I gotta stop reading slashdot just after i wake up....

    I saw that artists rendition and immediately envisioned a horde of these things rampaging through a hilly region, where they surrounded me and began to make some bone chilling squawk right before their leader came out to parley with me. It was a very well spoken individual, offered me amnesty if I would join them.

    I told them i would never accept them as my new penguin overlords. They then killed me and i decided to post.

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  40. New distro by owlman17 · · Score: 1

    Once they have a name for these giants, expect a new distro named after them. Hmmm, on the other hand, maybe we can name them after an existing distro.

    1. Re:New distro by theguyfromsaturn · · Score: 1

      We should start a Slashdot poll on to what distro name would be good. Red Hat penguins would be well suited if we found out they had some kind of red crest like rooster, hehehe. What other thoughts are out there as to the best distro name for the species?

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  41. That explains much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    That explains why the time-less daemons carry pitchforks - for protection from 1 foot beaks.

  42. Journal choice makes sense by dour+power · · Score: 1

    Of course they'd publish their findings in the journal my colleagues and I refer to as "PENIS." Five-foot phallic birds with giant beaks...

  43. Why so big? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why was everything in the past so big? Just about all the animals were bigger at some previous point.

    Is this the natural selection process or something? Things start small then being big is an advantage so things just keep getting bigger and bigger until it collapses with a medium size winning out?

    1. Re:Why so big? by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 1

      I suppose that for intraspecies competition, big is better, i.e if two lions are fighting for territory (and lionesses) the big guy wins out more often than not. For interspecies competition it's not always the case - for one thing bigger often means slower, greater food requirements etc.

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    2. Re:Why so big? by lordtoran · · Score: 1

      It has to do with the climate. From the jurassic until the miocene, the climate was quite a lot warmer than today, and the oxygene level in the atmosphere was higher. This allowed for a higher maximum body mass in regards of an animal's energy balance.

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  44. "Linux fodder"? by idontgno · · Score: 1

    SOYLENT LINUX IS GIANT PENGUINS!

    lameness filter etc. leave it to slashcode to ruin a perfectly cromulent jokememe.

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  45. these days, however... by nanosquid · · Score: 1

    These days, however, giant squares roam the halls of corporate IT.

  46. Re:beowulf check, overloards check, oh you forgot. by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

    Nobody has managed to work Batman into the picture yet...

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  47. End of patent problems? by FunkyELF · · Score: 1

    Will this be the end of patent problems unless they find a window which is more than 40 million years old?

  48. Was this a serious article? by Njoyda+Sauce · · Score: 2, Funny
    I mean I couldn't make it past this gem:

    The study also describes the first complete skull of a giant penguin, which provided a tantalizing glimpse into ancient penguin lifestyle. That's almost sig worthy.
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  49. And the truly odd thing about them by sizzzzlerz · · Score: 1

    is that they tasted just like chicken.

  50. Yum yum by HellYeahAutomaton · · Score: 2, Funny

    1) Nuclear transfer DNA of giant penguins with existing penguins, and in several generations have %88 genetic compatibility.
    2) Breed and let frolic 'free range'.
    3) Stir fry.
    4) ?????
    5) Profit!!!

  51. Re:beowulf check, overloards check, oh you forgot. by nschubach · · Score: 1

    I think you just did...

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  52. Re:beowulf check, overloards check, oh you forgot. by hotdiggitydawg · · Score: 1

    The last one was killed after Steve Ballmer threw a chair at it and swore "I'm going to f***ing kill the giant penguins" Actually, recent archaeological evidence suggests an alternate extinction theory, involving the catastrophic collision of Natalie Portman and a big bucket of hot grits...
  53. Re:Speaking of funny... by nschubach · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I say we replace CO2 emissions with Hydrochloric Acid emissions and see how the economy reacts.

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  54. That's Nothing! by morari · · Score: 1

    Have any of you seen the six foot albino penguins in Antarctica? They guard the Plateau of Leng, just beyond the Mountains of Madness. Beware the Elder Things, beware!

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  55. Miskatonic University's Paebody Expedition... by Volatile_Memory · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...found the blind, albino relatives of these critters at the Mountains of Madness in the 1920's. I thought this was common knowledge.

    v.m

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    1. Re:Miskatonic University's Paebody Expedition... by mikeee · · Score: 2, Funny

      Which expedition also established that the penguins were tolerated by, or possibly pets of, the Old Ones.

      [...]

      It it just me, or does the Debian spiral look like a tentacle if you squint just right?

  56. Now to our resident Penguin expert by hoojus · · Score: 1

    Yep that's a penguin alright.

  57. If their members were that big... by gaspar+ilom · · Score: 1

    how big were the *penguins?*

  58. WOW - The symbolism by cdn-programmer · · Score: 1

    I always thought we Linux people picked the Penguin for our mascot because it lives in a tough world.

    Five (5) feet high! This is a big bird! So what is Microsoft's mascot? A fish perhaps?

    1. Re:WOW - The symbolism by middlemen · · Score: 1

      So what is Microsoft's mascot?

      A greedy pig.

  59. Actually... by NRISecretAgent · · Score: 1

    You CAN have one as a pet! Apologies... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empoleon

  60. Nobody expects the penguin inquisition! by Tatisimo · · Score: 2, Funny

    in fact, our two main weapons are sharp long beaks, disgustingly cute builds and Linux zealots who'll keep us alive in their folklore till kingdom come! Three, that's three...

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  61. It's Obvious by Mr.+Lwanga · · Score: 1

    We descended from penguins.

  62. Guess you'd call that... by Deadstick · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...a Magnum Opus.

    rj

    1. Re:Guess you'd call that... by geek2k5 · · Score: 1

      Ah, Bloom County revived.


      Now how long will it be before this makes the funny pages? Other than in science supplements and Mark Trail. (Is that strip still around?)

  63. All of the body parts would be enlarged by PaulTheSamurai · · Score: 2, Funny

    "He vould have an enormous schwanzstucker."

  64. Re:AHHH THE ELDER THINGS LIVE!!! by 3chuck3 · · Score: 1

    RUN, RUN AND HIDE, FROM THE ELDER THINGS AND THEIR ANAEBA MINORS, see HP Lovecraft "At the Mountains of Madness" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elder_Things

  65. Possible answer by schnipschnap · · Score: 1
    In Biology, it has been observed that animals that are somehow related to each other, are larger in colder areas than in warmer areas. This is called Bergmann's Rule. Therefore, as we are talking about a warm area, it could indeed be beneficial for those giant Linusaurs to evolve to become smaller.

    You see, the sizes of animals yield different surface area to volume ratios, and therefore may be more or less prone to heat loss. A related rule is Allen's Rule, that concerns the extremities of animals, because these, being usually non-round structures, are more prone to heat loss. Thus, animals in hot climates have longer/larger extremities than their more or less direct counterparts in colder regions.

  66. More than 40 million years? Yes - 60M!! by whitehatlurker · · Score: 1
    According to this article, penguins have been around more than 60 million years.

    Of course, this comes with the "well that's f'n obvious" tagline of "The oldest penguin fossils yet found suggest that at least some ancestors of modern birds survived the mass extinction that killed off the dinosaurs." Duhh. They're here now, their ancestors must have survived.

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  67. Irrelevance, I give you god by EsbenMoseHansen · · Score: 1

    GOD cannot be proven or disproven. Science can never contradict the existence of GOD.

    But assuming his existence, we can prove his irrelevance, thus:

    Either God is capable of miracles --- miracles means "changing the world contrary to the physical laws that otherwise prevail". If he cannot, then he is irrelevant, obviously.(*) If he is capable of such, then he either listen and acts (i.e, perform miracles) on at least some significant amount of prayers, or he does not. If not, he is obviously irrelevant. If he does act on prayers by performing miracles, those miracles would, at least in principle, show up as deviation to normal, observable behaviour. E.g, we should expect people that prays to got for health to be more healthy. Current research indicates that there is no such effect, and thus we can conclude that God, if he exists, is irrelevant. Q.E.D.

    :p

    (*) Of course, the judgement-after-death could be an argument. But given the number of religions, trying to simply live a good life is probably the best defense against this rather remote possibility.

    P.S: This is, of course, a variant on the "problem of evil"-argument.

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    1. Re:Irrelevance, I give you god by yaminb · · Score: 1


      That's the beauty of the religious argument as you note in the asterisk :P

      It doesn't matter if GOD is irrelevant in this world. The ultimate relevancy shows up when you die, when no proof can be gathered. You know those places always being talked about (Hell/Heaven). It's a flawless improvable system .

    2. Re:Irrelevance, I give you god by EsbenMoseHansen · · Score: 1


      That's the beauty of the religious argument as you note in the asterisk :P

      It doesn't matter if GOD is irrelevant in this world. The ultimate relevancy shows up when you die, when no proof can be gathered. You know those places always being talked about (Hell/Heaven). It's a flawless improvable system .

      The most interesting bit is that all heavens *and* hells sounds like rather unpleasant affairs. Nirvana and Abraham heaven? Pure boredom. Valhalla? Not really my idea of fun.

      Anyway, my argument against heaven is one word long: Wishful thinking.(*)

      (*) It's not my fault that ønsketænkning translates from Danish into 2 words, is it?

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  68. Re:a linux connection? by M8e · · Score: 1

    yes, that's why they got extinct.

  69. name? by treak007 · · Score: 1

    ...and they called these penguins, Linux users.

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  70. Re:beowulf check, overloards check, oh you forgot. by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

    No, it's clearly the fault of George W. Bush that they got extinct. Ok, I have no clue how he may caused it, but that doesn't matter, it must be his fault! :-)

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  71. Too Bad Peter Benchley Died... by jomama717 · · Score: 1

    A giant prehistoric penguin could have constituted another best seller: "Beak". The suspenseful movie music would have to be slightly altered though:

    Doo-bie....Doo-bie....Doobie Doobie Dooo

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  72. fight!! by e2d2 · · Score: 1

    As an upright monkey I feel obliged to want to fight one of these extinct penguins, just to test their grit.

  73. Re:beowulf check, overloards check, oh you forgot. by Kreigaffe · · Score: 1

    You forgot to ask to have their size related to you in Library of Congresses

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  74. Power Animal by dwarfsoft · · Score: 1

    Giant Peruvian Penguins are my new Power Animal! SLIDE!

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  75. Ubuntu by mqduck · · Score: 1

    I know the name of the next Ubuntu release: giant peruvian

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  76. Why Linux Section? by brucmack · · Score: 1

    Doesn't this fit in the Science section more than the Linux section? Not that there is a tremendous amount of scientific discussion in this thread, but still...