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Captain America Buried in Arlington National Cemetary
coondoggie writes "Earlier this year Captain America was slain as the climax to Marvel Comics' Civil War event. The renowned hero will be buried in the next issue of Marvel Comics' 'Fallen Son,' due on July 5. 'Writer Jeph Loeb has been busy working through the stages of grief in his most recent titles, according to an Associated Press story. A book centered on Wolverine dealt with denial; one with the Avengers covered anger; and Spider-Man battled depression. With the story line so relevant to present-day politics, and the timing of the latest issue so precise, it's hard not to think the whole thing is one big slam on the government.'"
How about burying real politicians instead of Capt. America.
So tell me, where did they bury Captain Spelling? The libary?
I have seen the future, and it is inconvenient.
So the Red Skull assassinating Captain America is a slam on government? The arrest and surrounding Civil War hullabaloo is most likely a slam on government but Captain America's death is nothing more than a cash grab. They're just exchanging one live character with poor monthly sales and the occasional strong moment in ensemble titles for a martyr who can help bolster sales across the board. He'll be like Hal Jordan: more popular dead than he ever was alive. If this were really a slam on government, then the government would have a lot more to do with his actual death instead of it being a Red Skull masterminded event.
News for NERDS! I think this fits the bill rather well, considering he is one of the oldest comic characters I can think of.
You mad
Bearded Dragon
It is later revealed that the plan was orchestrated by the Red Skull;
This just in from Marvel..In the next issue..Red Skull gets a Presidential pardon.
At least Harding knew that his cronies were doing wrong and had a problem with it. From Wikipedia:
"My God, this is a hell of a job!" Harding said. "I have no trouble with my enemies, but my damn friends, my God-damned friends... they're the ones that keep me walking the floor nights!"
Bush just gives them a pat on the back...
Given that the Capt sorta is the American spirit and all that, I think his death is a bit more appropriate. We have been crushed and sold as a people. We have allowed our constitution to be highjacked, we have allowed our laws to be sold, we have allowed fear to rule our lives. There are a handful that are upset about this, but they are a minority by a long shot. I can't count the times I hear "If you aren't doing anything wrong you have nothing to hide" when I talk about how wrong the spying is, or even "Well did it, so why are you upset now?" like I was alive or aware of the others that have done it, or that the current crop aren't more blatant about breaking more laws to do it.
The fact is, most people don't seem to care. King George was reelected. You can point to his low approval rating, but congress is even lower, and noone is actually doing anything about it. Slick Willy got a blowjob and it was the end of the world, King George starts a war, usurps our freedoms, potentially stole 2 elections...well...that doesn't make as good sensationalist dirty gossip story so noone cares.
American Spirit is all but dead. Noone cares or is too busy shoveling themselves out of debt in our insane buy now pay later, keeping up with the Jones' culture. Lets not forget our wonderful lawmakers passed that nice law to make sure those poor credit companies don't have their money stolen by dirty citizens declaring bankruptcy!
The only change I can believe in is what I find in my couch cushions.
And, with his last, dying gasp, he falls on Hermoine.
Dammit... I spoiled that one, too. I'm sorry.
I'm amused by how the mainstream media has fallen for this marketting hype. We're geekier than that though. Death is one of the least permanent states for a comic character. Superman died in the 1990's. He seemed to get better and he wasn't the first. I very much doubt Jean Grey was either. Even Uncle Ben has been ressurected briefly via an alternative timeline.
Prime dying in a Transformers movie isn't a spoiler. You want to talk about spoilers in the Transformer movie? Tell me whether or not "the Touch" is played during the climactic battle in Bay's flick.
I didn't want to leave this blank.
No, he gives them medals...
And that's it. Reed and Stark turn into Henry Bendix types who kill and imprison people to help bring about their conception of a finer world with no comebacks (unless, as I fervently hope, at some point during World War Hulk, the Hulk removes Stark from his armour via the neck and then uses the emtpy shell as a latrine). The whole book seemed to be an endorsement of the idea of the competent, benign (unless you disagree with him - in which case its Prison 42 for you) dictator and, for me at least, left a bad taste. A shame as I've really liked Millar's work on The Ultimates.
Prime dying in a Transformers movie isn't a spoiler.
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Maybe not, but you have just brought on a relapse of Post Traumatic Stress for thousands of us who were kids in the mid-80s...
Captain America gave up. Iron-Man, Reed Richards, and their goons were clearly in the wrong and Captain America gave up. Iron-Man and Reed are the ones who were committing (at best) "morally gray" acts. Iron-Man and Reed are the ones who cloned Thor, resulting in Goliath's death. Iron-Man and Reed are the ones who were supporting, guess what? The government. Captain America gave up the fight against the forces of oppression in a nod to the government. His death is, if anything, a sign that his breed of super-hero has no place in the Fox news world that Marvel seems to favor now. This is a slam against us. Certainly not to the government or to Iron-Man.
Regards, Ian
On one online comic forum I troll through, the majority of the readers are generally pissed off about Civil War. On the one hand, creating an effective pro-registration side meant essentially turning some superheroes evil. SHIELD shot first at Captain America - not for not wanting to register, but for not wanting to hunt down his old friends. And Iron Man lost all credibility he had in this encounter, including hiring former supervillians to start a false war with Atlantis, just to prove his point.
Problem is, all of the "good guys" weren't much better. Rather than actually providing solid arguments as to what they were opposing the government for, most of the superheroes just ran around shouting how bad the government is and smoking weed and putting flowers in their hair. The few times that Captain America had a moment in front of a reporter to explain his case, he just listed a bunch of hippie talking points, rather than actually talking about how the law could hurt superheroes, or even mentioning that SHIELD shot at him first.
Civil War could have been a chance to have some real commentary on modern issues, but it quickly devolved into just a chance for people to fight each other. There was no real discussion, no real logic, and Cap's sudden death just capped the whole thing off as being an attempt for controversy rather than any sort of political message.
Libertarians somehow believe that private businesses should be stronger than governments but weaker than individuals.
Actually... Bill Clinton did not commit perjury. Arguably he did lie during a press conference, and he certainly did intend to deceive during that press conference, but "perjury" is a word with a strict legal definition, and it does not hold in this case.
The details in the matter are that while under oath during a civil court case brought by Paula Jones then President Clinton was asked if he had had sex or an affair with Monica Lewinsky. He asked for clarification about what constituted sex and an affair, and sex was defined, BY THE PROSECUTOR, as penile-vaginal intercourse. He then answered that he had not had sex under this definition. I have never heard anyone say that Bill Clinton received more than a blow-job from Monica Lewinsky.
So please stop using the word "perjury". It is simply wrong to use in this case. You can say he lied (people may disagree on that point), and you can certainly say that he intended to mislead people (that cannot be disputed), but he did not perjure himself.
The subsequent disbarment was much more about the Whitewater investigations, and was highly politically charged. To the point that facts were mostly irrelevant in the case.
The Democrats now run Congress; why aren't they impeaching Bush?
Three Words....
Vice President Cheney
I finally understand why he was chosen by Bush. It's a reverse Dan Quayle. No one wanted George H Bush removed because Dan Quayle was an idiot. Now no one want George W Bush removed because Dick Cheney is EVIL.
Truth: If it's not one thing, it's another
Do you really think the Democrats are better then the Republicans? As far as I am concerned they are largely the same party. The only candidate who voted against the war and will get us out is Ron Paul.