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Motorists Sue Over 'Hot' Fuel

i_like_spam writes "Motorists in 13 states have filed lawsuits against big oil companies and gas retailers alleging unfair pricing practices related to fuel-pumping temperatures. From an industry standard developed in the 1920's, the price for a gallon of gasoline is based on the density of the fuel at a temperature of 60 degress F. A gallon of gas at higher temperatures is less dense, and therefore contains less energy. The lawsuits claim additional costs of 3 to 9 cents per gallon without temperature adjustments. The fuel industry claims that the costs of installing temerature-adjustment sensors on every pump would be prohibitively high. These sensors are already installed in Canada, however, where the colder temperatures favor consumers."

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  1. Well... by pushing-robot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Business math 101: Their accountants looked at the money they'd lose after installing the sensors and prohibited the engineers from doing it. Ergo, the sensors are prohibitively expensive.

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  2. Competition by AvitarX · · Score: 3, Funny

    Shouldn't competition keep the prices low?

    I bet the 3 to 9 cents is coming off the price and not out of the pocket. The only place where it really matters is when the temperature swing is large and people fueling during rush hour are left paying more than those at night, of course if the consumers were educated about that it would free up rush hour slots at the station and consumers would still win.

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  3. Re:Prohibitively high by mdsolar · · Score: 3, Funny

    Or are the chips on fatty margins?
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  4. Anyone know about the hose? by Tuki · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have always thought that I was getting ripped off by the person before me that used regular gas, when I pumped premium. Are there several hoses in that pipe, or do I get a hose length of 10 cent cheaper gas in my car everytime that I fill up? If the latter is true... someone start up a class action lawsuit... I have a job that keeps me too busy.

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  5. Re:Easy Fix by Dyolf+Knip · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just make the standard at 100F instead of 60F, then temperature sensors will be all the rage, as they apparently are in canada.

    The oil companies would respond by trying to accelerate global warming and push the average temperature over 100F so they can start saving money again.

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  6. Re:Common Sense/Observation != Science by flink · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's not the heat, it's the humidity! :-P

  7. go higher, and make the temperature mandatory by r00t · · Score: 2, Funny

    How hot can a pump get in the summer heat of Arizona? Maybe 200 degrees? Let's make it that then.

    Forget the temperature compensation crap. Let's just require fuel to be served at 200 degrees.

    Now that I think about it, this might help safety and environmental issues. Fuel expanding in a car's gas tank gets vented outside. That's awful. If it starts out hot and low density, venting is unlikely.

  8. Re:That would be why by DohnJoe · · Score: 2, Funny

    OT: Am I the only one who thinks this thread is redundant?

  9. Re:Should be quite easy to do by weighn · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know a guy who lifts the droop out of the hose when he's done pumping that sounds so ... umm ... easy to misunderstand.

    I bet this guy's wife is the sort that washes cling-wrap for reuse, gets two cups per tea-bag and uses BOTH sides of the toilet paper?

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  10. Re:Congressional testimony on Hot Fuels by joe_adk · · Score: 2, Funny

    Tell you what, Bart, I'll trade you the weight of a bowling ball on the eighth moon of Jupiter for my lunch, for the weight of a feather on the second moon of Neptune from your lunch.
  11. Re:Congressional testimony on Hot Fuels by vought · · Score: 4, Funny

    navel

    I knew a navel aviator once. He could never manage to break the lint barrier.

  12. Shhhh! Don't tell the oil companies... by Rick+Richardson · · Score: 4, Funny

    ... but it is COLDER than 60 degrees for 8 months a year here in MINNESOTA.

    Please, we like it that way!!!!!

  13. Buy by electrical potential difference by Control+Group · · Score: 2, Funny

    Simple, problem solved. Buy electricity by Amps.

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  14. In a way, you're both winners. by phonicsmonkey · · Score: 2, Funny

    But in another more accurate way, Barney is the winner.

  15. Re:Congressional testimony on Hot Fuels by justthinkit · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just because it's not how you would choose to spend the money doesn't mean it was pissed away.

    Actually, I can pretty much guaranty it was pissed away.

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