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Homeland Security Commissions LED-Based Puke-Saber
E++99 writes "Homeland Security has contracted with Intelligent Optical Systems, Inc. to develop an "LED Incapacitator," a nonlethal weapon consisting of a large flashlight with a cluster of LEDs capable of emitting "super-bright pulses of light at rapidly changing wavelengths." Sounds innocuous enough... until they they shine "the evil color" at you and you start puking! A working prototype has been completed, and they will soon be putting it through its paces. Homeland Security hopes to give it to Border Patrol agents and National Guardsmen by 2010."
If only to pummel Tom Cruise with................
Wow, wait until the bulimics get hold of this on the black market!
...as long as the bad guys aren't allowed to have mirrors.
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How long till you can get this in a Java applet?
...not that you'd be an effective terrorist with your eyes closed. BTW, is it wrong of me to want to see this used on large crowds?
How will people defend themselves against this?
Use the MAD method: Wear mirror sunglasses.
Does it also work against editors who relentlessly post the same stories over and over again?
Puke, I am your father.
IANAL, but doesn't this device create some legal liability for security?
-Someone gets this device used on them. They have damage from stomach acid in their esophagus. They sue.
-They use this on someone who is sick (from another cause). They puke up blood/get sicker/die.
-(This is BS, but lawyers will sue for anything these days) "Psychological trauma" caused by the device.
Is it a reasonable expectation that the device may be used on you if you go to airport/border?
Why do I feel its only a matter of time till the design leaks out and dick teenagers start buying them on ebay and carrying them around. I hope this doesn't work as advertised.
I think you are referring to the technicolor yawn wavelength.
warning: This post is likely to contain gobs of dripping sarcasm. Consume at your own risk.
We definitely need some kind of device to shield our eyes from this "light". As I understand a practical way would be just covering our eyes, we could shape them as glasses! Not only that, but it could protect us from the suns blinding rays... I suggest we call this device "sunglasses" to deceive others of its true purpose!
Now if someone just invented these "sunglasses"...
to clean up all the puke at the borders?
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And if anyone still believes this stuff is all about stopping terrorism, you are an idiot. This is all about controlling the domestic herd.
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While non-lethal technology has the potential to be fantastic, there's a downside to be considered too.
With a gun, there's a certain level of commitment before it's used. An officer of the law must make a determination that he or she is really certain about before shooting, because hitting an innocent person is absolutely unacceptable. As a result, the tendency is to, unless there's no option, NOT shoot someone if you can hold them at bay with the THREAT of shooting. A side effect of this is that an officer given a bad order to shoot is much more likely to abstain, because once he pulls the trigger, it's all over.
As a result, innocent folks are often held at gunpoint until their identity/non-criminalness is confirmed. While traumatic and stressful, this is better than an alternative that's growing increasingly common:
Enter, the taser. Potentially a wonderful tool for stopping an attacker without permanently injuring them, doctrine has instead developed in many police and security departments to 'Zap first, ask questions later'. The 'non-injurious' aspect of the tool means that the bar is that much lower on whether or not to shoot, because "after all, if they're innocent, then it's just a bit of discomfort".
The growing number of non-lethal tools is on the surface a good, even GREAT thing. The real danger though, is a long term one. With the bar set so low, more and more people will be subject to excruciating pain, and eventually, this technology may evolve into a tool of even greater oppression of liberty than anything we have now.
Imagine if a protest can be casually broken up by making everyone vomit or crap themselves uncontrollably. If the government has the ability to casually stop groups of people from coming together or otherwise detaining them while being able to argue "it's not fatal, it's just uncomfortable", then the bar on violating our rights as citizens drops too.
So I'm interested and optimistic about the technologies, but I desperately hope that better effort is invested in making them a net positive for all of humanity and not the boot that might otherwise grind our faces into the dirt.
There has to be a real question here of morality and the rules of engagement for such a device. There seems to be a growing tide of opinion that as long as a weapon is "non-lethal", i.e. it won't kill you or leave behind long-term effects then it is magically fine to use in a very wide range of situations. Real questions have to be asked at some stage as to the *morality* of allowing widespread use of something that makes you sick/shocks you/blinds you purely on the basis that "it has no long term effects and allows us to subdue people" - so does a kick in the face, but I don't see officers doing that (unless they are caught on camera in which case the get suspended then eventually let off).
And we don't need to be using weapons on each other more often, but less.
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I thought Adam & Jamie busted the whole "brown note" myth?
Coming up next, Slashdot follows the troubling development of a nonlethal technological device for "controlling" troublesome individuals, consisting of two small metal or plastic bracelets joined by a short chain that can be "locked" around the suspect's hands, entirely preventing him from using them until someone "unlocks" the device with a special key.
On whom will this fiendish device be used? Are YRO at risk if this nasty little tool falls into the hands of border guards and police? What if someone immobilized by this device falls and hits his head because he can't break his fall with his hands? Will he sue? Doesn't this violate the Constitution somehow?
Wouldn't it be easier to just have border officials who spoke Spanish?
"My eyes! The goggles do nothing!"
Sure, you can close your eyes, but you'd better hold your ears too. One of their elite researchers has discovered the brown noise
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Couldn't I just pull up into Home Depot's color center and have them make paint in the "evil" color and use it for whatever (pranks, revenge, robbery)?
Would not that be quite dangerous for epileptic ? What about an epileptic, getting a crisis AND omitting at the same time. Guaranteed drowning in one own puke, followed by a civil lawsuit against the government? What about other condition which could threaten life if you start puking (I am not a biologist/doctor so there might be none but I ask) ?
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This might be good for poison control as an emetic with no side-effects. Combined with activated charcoal, this could save lives.
You could use it as some sort of anti-captcha for a social networking sight meant to be only used by blind people. If you can make it through the sign-in form, you get to join.
Take THAT all you people that don't put alt tags on your images!
(By the way, does the "evil color" work on colorblind people?)
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Please, learn to meme properly. Although it is a well-known fact that Rainier Luftwaffe Wolfcastle actually cries "The goggles do nothing" when starring his role as Radioactive Man, the precise Slashdot meme is commonly stated as "The goggles, they do nothing!". Please, report to the men at the door, where you will be asked to hand in your UID, geek card and, should that be the case, mirror goggles.
They've been watching too much powerpuff girls.
That'll teach those slowpokes not to hog the left lane.
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I'd rather see my tax money wasted on something like this instead of wasted on new ways to slaughter more people even faster.
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Good point. I was going to say, "The goggles, they do nothing!", but Wikipedia told me not to. Bad Wikipedia!
You lost me there. Somehow blowing up poor families seems a bit extreme.
Welcome to America. Sorry about your mother and the rest of your family. Uh...our bad.
Quack, quack.
This sounds like yet another nonsense variation of the brown note myth. absolute rubbish. makes me wish i knew some senators i could sell some snake oil to and get me a slice of defence budget pie.
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I don't know...One of the issues with non-lethal weapons it they make it a lot easier to break up a protest. If you actually had to kill people to settle them down, media and conscience could more easily affect change.
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Er, so you've got a confrontation between a border agent and an illegal alien. Neither one can understand the language of the other. One of them suddenly feeling violently ill improves the situation... how?
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Yeah I bet homeland security is definitely worried about devices that exist within the imagination of your average slashdotter.
Send lawyers, guns, and money!
Its called the blink tag.
As you guessed, one of us was bored enough to try. When I tried with either lamp or bright flashlight, even rolling my eyes up, enough light was visible to be easily seen. A few questions came to mind:
1. Since the wavelength of the beam changes a bit as it filters through your tissue, is that why they had to have shifting frequencies? After all, FTA:
"There's one wavelength that gets everybody," says IOS President Bob Lieberman. "Vlad [IOS top scientist Vladimir Rubtsov] calls it 'the evil color.'"If one color gets everyone, why would they need "rapidly changing wavelengths", or did the reporter get their terminology mixed up?
2. Y'know that "pretty lights" effect you get when you rub your eyes? Would that be enough to throw off "the evil color"?
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Sadly many times using a less-than-lethal weapon is used even though physical contact with the suspect would cause less damage to them. This isn't because police officers are just lazy or because they like to see people tazered but because it it much more defensible in court if the suspect doesn't have any kind of marks on him where as if the officer would wrestle him to the ground and cuff him he would likely have cuts and bruises(almost always superficial damage). Blame the courts and people's perception before you blame the police officers.
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Or better yet, find out what your personal frequency is, and get some custom glasses that selectively filter that frequency!
Who's against foreigners?
We're against ILLEGAL immigrants, which is not the same thing.
They do, but their job is to mop up the puke.
But you've got to love the lingo. Another big PR victory for homeland security, they now have hand held mind devices that emit "evil" colors to manipulate the mind to puke. Now, lets ask ourselves: If this was in a movie, would it be:
a) something the good guys have?
b) something the bad guys have?
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STOP. You're being farmed.
I suspect the 'evil frequency' isn't referring to the wavelength of light emitted, but instead to the pulse pattern.
Maybe Mythbusters can test this out as a followup to "Brown Note".
Can they be far behind ?
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