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Apple May Introduce New iPod on Wednesday

UnHolier than ever writes "Apple may be planning to announce a 'revamp' of the iPod on Wednesday. Reporters from across Europe have been asked to view a broadcast presentation by Steve Jobs at the BBC headquarters. Theorized features for this new iPod include a full or wide-screen with touch controls, ala the ever-popular iPhone. '[An analyst with Goldman Sachs] believes that a new line of iPods will boost demand for the gadget from Goldman's present forecast of about 19.8 million units for Apple's key first quarter - the reporting period that covers Christmas. However, that still suggests that demand for iPods will be flat, at best, compared with the same period last year, when Apple sold about 21 million devices.'"

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  1. Re:whoreabull corepirate nazis introducing new &am by heinousjay · · Score: 3, Funny

    Reading your posts is practically orgasmic for me. So much work, so barely comprehensible, and really, your points would almost be reasonable if not for the veneer of insanity you seem to try so hard to add.

    You, sir, rock.

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  2. Speculation isn't news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Speculation for Nerds. News that may matter.

  3. You know by phoenixwade · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With 6 billion or so people on the planet, sooner or later the market will reach saturation, and ipod sale are going to become flat. I'm not really sure why flattening of iPod sales is big news.

    That said, I have a 3rd gen iPod, and it's getting close to the time to replace it, I have hopes for a widescreen color iPod in the 100 gb range, So if it's avaiable soon, I may very well bee the 19 million and first sale this year.

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    1. Re:You know by DurendalMac · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What he doesn't take into account are people unloading their old iPods for a new one. I have an 80GB iPod Video right now, and I will put it up for sale the moment Apple announces a video iPod. If it has everything the iPhone does minus the phone, expect sales to go off the charts.

  4. Awesome by /ASCII · · Score: 3, Funny

    I just bought a 8 GB Nano today. And in less than a week, it's going to be vintage. Yes!

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    1. Re:Awesome by FooAtWFU · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's what this page is for.

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    2. Re:Awesome by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, since its now useless, give it to me.

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    3. Re:Awesome by Bemopolis · · Score: 5, Informative

      You made a good choice in posting as Anonymous Coward. Still, it's too bad for you that /. doesn't have the option of posting as Stupid Drooling Fucking Moron.

      Once again, for the newbies:

      - AAC (ADVANCED Audio Codec) has NOTHING to do with Apple, beyond being their compression scheme of choice. Posting the Wikipedia link would insult us both.
      - The iTunes STORE sells tracks that only play on iPods; taking Steve Jobs at his word, this is only due to DRM required by the record companies.
      - Most "mp3 players" will play AAC-encoded tracks. It's just a codec for mp4s, after all. If you really can't find one, go to your local community college and take a class on Google.
      - If you're really that paranoid about AAC, set iTunes to encode in mp3 before your first rip. Then you will be able to survive in a world where only iPods can play tracks ripped in iTunes. Whatever world that is, because it ain't this one.

      Now PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE shut the fuck up.

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    4. Re:Awesome by thedbp · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Ugh. FUD.

      Scratchable screens - Yes, because all cell phone manufacturers and manufactuerers of other DAPs use completely unscratchable screens. Dude, learn how to take care of your things. I have a 3rd gen iPod and the screen is gorgeous still because I value it, and make sure I take care of it. It ain't hard. Take personal responsibility.

      Faulty earjacks - yes, the earphone jacks are built to have their solder joints break on purpose. I'm sure it has nothing to do with tons of pressure being applied to the jack by pushing down or pulling sideways on the headphone jack very hard. Nothing at all. Again - Dude, learn how to take care of your things.

      Sealed in batteries - for which there is a very inexpensive battery replacement program, which, at $70 nets you an iPod with a new battery, new case, and new HD, with a 90 day warranty. How many AAA batteries would you have run through in the 300-400 charge cycles of the internal battery? 2 or 3 every 10 hours of playback? Do you have any idea how expensive disposable batteries are over time?

      Your arguments are old, clichéd, and well-documented bullshit. Please stop trolling.

    5. Re:Awesome by Darth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Here you go :

      Creative Zen supports AAC.

      Also, the Zune supports AAC (although it doesn't support having any market share, so i figured you wouldn't accept it as an example.)

      The PS3, PSP, Xbox 360, Sansa e200R all support AAC as well.
      (the sansa apparently requires a firmware update)

      As far as your search criteria for your google example goes, you really do need to go take that class if you thought that was a good way to search for portable hardware devices that support AAC.

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  5. Re:Based on iPhone? by phoenixwade · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not that unlocking hasn't done that already though... Do you really think that unlocking the iPhone has caused damage to the business model? An unlocking hack made the iPhone available to consumers who didn't want to be locked into AT&T, and Apple still gets whatever the benefits of contract exclusivity provided them.

    Sounds to me like everyones business model except AT&T's wins here. I can live with that....

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  6. Rumor Roundup by necro81 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Engadget has a helpful rumor roundup - just to keep the /. discussion lively with speculation. Aside from the next-gen touchscreen iPod, there's the Beatles' catalogue on iTMS, direct-to-iPhone (iPod) music store downloads, and increased capacity in the Nano. "Analysis" (i.e., educated speculation and wishful thinking) available from CNet, ArsTechnica, and AppleInsider (1, 2, 3).

  7. May? by Thwomp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ha! Lets not err on the side of caution here, I thought it was a dead cert. Especially since those new iPod photos appeared which Apple promptly issued a take-down for.

  8. I have always wondered by tit0.c · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why hasnt apple put AM/FM/XM/whatever radio capabilities in the iPods.
    I still listen to radio ocasionally when I want to listen to something different.

    1. Re:I have always wondered by animaal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can only assume it's because Apple would rather you pay them for music on iTunes than listen to the radio for free.

      Shame really, radio hardware can be tony, and costs almost nothing.

  9. Sounds like the European iPhone launch to me by Andy_R · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So, we know Apple are calling in journalists from all over Europe, we know that in the iPhone launch presentation Steve Jobs said Europe would get the iPhone in Q3 2007, and we know there are only another 27 days of Q3 2007 left. So why are people jumping to the conclusion that this is a iPod launch?

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    1. Re:Sounds like the European iPhone launch to me by De+Lemming · · Score: 4, Informative

      we know that in the iPhone launch presentation Steve Jobs said Europe would get the iPhone in Q3 2007 No, he said Q4: "So here we are, and we're going to be shipping it in June in the U.S. We're going to Europe hopefully by the fourth calendar quarter of this year. And in Asia in 2008." (link)
    2. Re:Sounds like the European iPhone launch to me by igorthefiend · · Score: 2

      Well, let's see 1) The invite has a picture of a guy with an iPod on it 2) There's a US event too 3) The tag line for the event is "The Beat Goes On..." Yeah, it's the European iPhone launch.

    3. Re:Sounds like the European iPhone launch to me by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Still, Q4 2007 is less than 4 weeks away. This could well be the European iPhone launch confirmation but it could just as as easily be something else.

      Knowing Apple, though, it'll probably be both. After all, if they have flown in European journalists then why fly them in twice in a matter of months when you could get everything done in one go?

      I predict the new iPods, plus confirmation of the European iPhone launch dates, service providers and sample price plans.

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  10. may not be wireless by Jeremy_Bee · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There is a rumour that instead of wi-fi, the new iPod will use this technology:

    http://lunchat.typepad.com/my_weblog/2007/01/kleer .html

    thus it may not have any skype/wireless capabilities.

    1. Re:may not be wireless by Jeremy_Bee · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The way I understand it, the "Kleer" thing is an extra. There is nothing to stop people from using earbuds as well or instead of this.

      It would conceivably allow Apple to produce an iPod with wireless like capabilities for sharing tunes and "squirting the social" (a la Zune), but not necessarily introduce the complexity of wireless and browsers and skype and so on. With Kleer, each iPod would be a broadcasting station and multiple wireless listeners could listen to the same iPod simultaneously. This would also figure in with the rumoured iPod "kiosks" that are said to be going up at Starbucks for selling iTunes to patrons.

      I find it kind of believable because the technology is bleeding edge (typical Apple), it would instantly turn iPods into the highest quality audio devices out there (also typical Apple), and make it possible to do all those social things that were the Zune's only real innovation ("the social"), without all the DRM and legal complications. It's such a perfect solution, that if Apple doesn't use this technology or something very similar, the next Zune could run rings around them just by implementing it.

      This is all wild rumour at this point however.

  11. Re:Based on iPhone? by nano2nd · · Score: 2

    Dude, I know - that was just an experiment. You know, for nerds.

    I own two other real Macs already - G4 eMac and a Powermac G4 dual 1GHz with 23" Cinema display. I'm just in the process of working out which to retire/sell and what to replace with - once Leopard is out, that is.

    Hackintosh is a cool experiment but the scene seems to consist of a handful of very talented hackers, some very shady types, and a lot of what we in the 80's would have called Lamers.

    Whoah there, this is now both off-topic and flamebait. LOL.

  12. Re:iPods by stevo3232 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That's complete bullshit. I regularly copy gigs upon gigs of data on and off my 80 gig ipod and I've /never/ had it corrupt anything. Ever. In fact, I just md5summed a DVD ISO that I shoved on there a few months ago and it's exactly the same as the one on my drive. With a "1 in 100" miss rate, there's no way that'd be possible.

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  13. Re:My suggestion: by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is this some kind of Zen riddle? If no one reads the article, does it matter that the article has no substance?

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  14. look at the contracts... by YesIAmAScript · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The contracts Apple signed in Europe give Apple 10% of the revenue the wireless provider gets from activating the phone.

    If you unlock your iPhone and don't use it on the contracted provider, then Apple loses that money.

    So yeah, the unlocking has likely hurt Apple's business model.

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    1. Re:look at the contracts... by phoenixwade · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The contracts Apple signed in Europe give Apple 10% of the revenue the wireless provider gets from activating the phone.

      If you unlock your iPhone and don't use it on the contracted provider, then Apple loses that money.

      So yeah, the unlocking has likely hurt Apple's business model. That presumes that there is a significant percentage of people willing to go with the provider that Apple partnered with, that is, willing enough to put up with that provider to own the iPhone. It's all pure speculation, but it seems like apple will make more on the phone than they would have otherwise with sales lost because of the provider in the partnership.

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    2. Re:look at the contracts... by Dogtanian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As long as Apple makes money on the phone (which seems likely), they come out ahead. People who don't want AT&T can now buy the phone. This is a big deal in Europe where AT&T has almost no market. You're assuming that the AT&T deal is worldwide, which isn't the case as far as I know. Last I heard, Apple were in negotiations with the major Euro telcos (Orange, T Mobile, etc).

      That having been said, Apple would be better going with the proposed 3G version of the iPhone in Europe for reasons I cover in this comment. (Note that this was written before I was aware that Apple *did* intend launching a 3G version of the iPhone).
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  15. Re:My suggestion: by DMoylan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    perhaps.

    what i do know is that 2 of our suppliers who normally don't sell apple stock were offering cheap ipods for the past 2-3 months here in ireland. they really seem to have been off loading ipod video and ipod nano stock. i also heard from friends who had companies they dealt with offering similar deals. now it might just be the lower end but it was still a significant departure for these companies to suddenly offer stock from a company they normally had no dealings with.

    prices offered to us
    * ipod nano 4gb 165
    * ipod 30gb black 210

  16. Sure it is by catbutt · · Score: 2, Funny

    Assuming you think news should only be about provable facts....well, it is certainly a fact that some people think that Apple may introduce a new iPod on wednesday. Whether that is is important or not* is a matter of debate, but it is certainly a real fact, and therefore news.

    *it does have very tangible effects, in the form of moving markets.

  17. Still lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wireless. More space than a Nomad. Still lame.

  18. Have analysts ever been correct... by samdu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...about the demand for iPods? I have a feeling that they have always underestimated the demand.

  19. Re:iPods by GaryPatterson · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ah, numbers from the PDOOMA methodology.

    What? You've not heard of PDOOMA? It's sweeping the Internet, the TV and the newspapers of the world! It's the latest in business analysis and information.

    PDOOMA = Pulled Directly Out Of My Arse.

    Just like the 1/100 memory miss rate. Nice work. You may have a career in punditry waiting for you somewhere.