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Retailer Refuses Hardware Repair Due To Linux

Tikka writes "Today I visited PC World (London, UK) because my 5-month-old laptop has developed a manufacturing fault: the hinge to the display has started to crack the plastic casing. Anyone in the know will know that this is due to the joint inside, and it means that in time the screen will separate from the keyboard. Repair was refused, because I have Gentoo Linux on my laptop, replacing the Windows Vista that was pre-installed. PC World said that installing Linux had voided my warranty and there is nothing they will do for me. I spoke to a manager, who said that he has been told to refuse any repairs if the operating system has been changed. I feel this has really gone against my statutory rights and I will do everything I can to fight it. I will review comments for your advice."

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  1. ahem.... are you sure? by yagu · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you absolutely sure Linux did not cause that crack to form? Think about it, the laptop was rated obviously Vista® capable... did you see anything on the case to indicate Linux capable?

    I think the best thing to do would be to publish as broadly as you can the make and model of this laptop and its shortcomings, better to serve others to avoid this vendor.

    1. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by Kryptonian+Jor-El · · Score: 5, Funny

      YOU'RE LUCKY THATS ALL! I've heard Gentoo can cause the computer to explode! You should put Windows back on there before the motherboard melts

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    2. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by Psychor · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's not the manager's fault, he'd just heard that Linux users were all a bunch of crackers.

    3. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by daddymac · · Score: 5, Funny
      Must've forgotten to

      insmod dont_break_screen_hinge.ko

      Common newbie mistake.

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    4. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by AbbyNormal · · Score: 4, Funny

      Virtual flying chairs caused the crack when it was switched to Linux.

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    5. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by Trogre · · Score: 5, Funny

      I like those Certified For Windows® Vista® stickers. I peel them off and stick them to the sides of rubbish bins about the place.

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    6. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by archen · · Score: 5, Funny

      Been doing that for so long that my trash is still certified for windows 98 :)

    7. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by srmalloy · · Score: 4, Funny

      I like those Certified For Windows® Vista® stickers. I peel them off and stick them to the sides of rubbish bins about the place.

      Right next to the Intel Inside stickers.

    8. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by smittyoneeach · · Score: 5, Funny

      Gentoo can only trigger explosions if you set -O6 or greater in your make options.
      This is because the resulting binaries run so fast that the CPU melts too rapidly for any gas to escape, and then, BAM: yo' junk goes down faster than a Britney Spears/Michael Jackson revival duet, replete with wardrobe malfunctions.
      OK, it's late, and even I didn't need that imagery.
      So spare yourself the imagery and keep them make options real out there, rokay?

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    9. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      As a lawyer I would suggest next time you kick the manager squarely in the nuts and reply "Software did it".

    10. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by Kris_J · · Score: 5, Funny

      Didn't you know that homosexuals were incapable of writing good drivers? All they do is sit around reading women's magazines and matching their belt to their shoes.

      All the best drivers are made by heterosexual cross-dressers. Post-op transsexuals are gods at compression utilities, while operating systems are best written by eunuchs.

    11. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I stick them in urinals.

    12. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Where do you get a 5 month battery? I want one!

    13. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by MajinBlayze · · Score: 5, Funny

      Those white boys shouldn't even be near computers

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    14. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Funny, I actually am working on a compression utility right now.

    15. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by megaditto · · Score: 2, Funny

      Rust-frozen hinges can be avoided if windows or gates are in constant use.

      (there is also a joke about penetrating lubricant in here somewhere, but I am just not seeing it)

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    16. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by Merusdraconis · · Score: 2, Funny

      But how can you make the computer work without Windows? That's just impossible. You can't do it.

    17. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      You are mistaken, PRE-op transsexuals are gods of compression utilities. Nobody else can disappear and re-appear entire appendages.

    18. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by Major+Disaster,+here · · Score: 4, Funny

      If he'd been thinking he'd have used the stickers to reinforce the hinges.

    19. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by nick_davison · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're making a fundamental mistake: Assuming anyone at PC World has the slightest clue what Slashdot is.

      It's kind of like writing to McDonald's customer service department and telling them they are getting a bad reputation amongst the Michelin Guide people: they'll wonder what on earth tires have to do with anything.

    20. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by gv250 · · Score: 5, Funny

      operating systems are best written by eunuchs
      There was a time, before Windows, before Linux, when I had to explain to my dad what I did for a living. "I'm a UNIX wizard", says I. "A eunuch's what?" says he.
    21. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by revengebomber · · Score: 2, Funny

      Those white boys shouldn't even be near computers In the great Lord's eyes, all geeks are black.


      But that's only because there's not enough light in the basements to actually SEE them.
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    22. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by initialE · · Score: 5, Funny

      1) remove hard disk
      2) hit it repeatedly on the table until hard disk fails to boot
      3) return entire device to store

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    23. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by dbIII · · Score: 2, Funny

      As a pre-op tranny

      Since this is slashdot most of us will think you are about to be upgraded from valves.

    24. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by Rockin'+Az · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know....kids today

      0) BACKUP YOUR DATA
      1) remove hard disk
      2) hit it repeatedly on the table until hard disk fails to boot
      3) return entire device to store

      Do you really want to be redownloading your favourite pr0n? Didn't think so. Remember always backup your data before smashing up your hard drive.

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    25. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by stonedcat · · Score: 1, Funny

      Kids today don't have data. They store everything on gmail, googlepages, photobucket, & youtube. Don't you know this by now?

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    26. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by cerberusss · · Score: 4, Funny

      Reminds me of my student time. One guy is staring at his terminal with IRC session. Other guy walks in, sees HD lying on table and asks: "whose HD is this?". IRC guy keeps on staring and grunts "mine". Other guy doesn't touch harddisk, but says "Let's see if it can take THIS" and slaps hand twice on another table. :-)

      IRC guy jumps up and screams YOU BASTARD YOU RUINED MY DISK. Took him a while to calm down and understand his beard was pulled :-)

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    27. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by NickFitz · · Score: 2, Funny

      I just want plain text....why is that so hard?

      You must be new here...

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    28. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by bcmm · · Score: 2, Funny

      YOU'RE LUCKY THATS ALL! I've heard Gentoo can cause the computer to explode! You should put Windows back on there before the motherboard melts
      N00b. You need to use the -fno_explosions cflag.

      Doesn't anyone EVER actually RTFM? FFS. These problems are SO easy to fix if you aren't a total idiot. Honestly.


      (Don't mod me troll; I actually use Gentoo)
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      Damn, my RAM is full of llamas.
    29. Re:ahem.... are you sure? by fumblebruschi · · Score: 2, Funny

      A Jewish neighbor of mine, when she got a bargain at a yard sale, used to say "I Christianed him down."

  2. Well duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Everyones knows with Linux you've been bashing your laptops shell. Of course your hinge is messed up.

  3. Gentoo? by Nimey · · Score: 4, Funny

    The poster must be leaving something out, like the big spoiler on the screen, neon lights, and the Type R sticker that he riced^Wmodded the laptop with.

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    1. Re:Gentoo? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      fucking ricers.

    2. Re:Gentoo? by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't forget the slotted and cross-drilled drive platters! Or the .002" shaved, high-compression CPU socket! All are must have performance options!

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    3. Re:Gentoo? by Minwee · · Score: 4, Funny

      And speed holes. Those make the computer go faster.

  4. kdawson Magnet Thread Here by Nymz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can we please start keeping all posts regarding kdawson in a single thread? That way he won't overload the server, while using the search function to troll for his name.

    <voice=Shatner>KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKDAWSON!!!</voice>

  5. The Linux installation definitely broke the laptop by kawabago · · Score: 5, Funny

    The laptop was designed to be unusable, that's why it had Vista installed. If you can't use it, it won't break. By installing an operating system that could make use of the hardware, you subjected the laptop to use it was not designed to take and voided the warranty. If you read the EULA closely you'll see that any computer with Vista installed is not actually intended to be used.

  6. Easy to fix by joeflies · · Score: 4, Funny

    #emerge display_hinge_2.0

  7. Management is right by SlappyBastard · · Score: 4, Funny

    You stuffed a damn penguin into the thing and you wonder why the hinge broke!?!?!

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  8. Re:Seriously... wtf? by Barny · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sure linux would cause this kind of problem, since it would actually be able to work with linux you would be opening and closing the screen a whole lot more than if it had vista on it :P

    Seriously though, call the manufacturer, they should be able to help you.

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  9. Re:Sad but true Re:install windows by cool_arrow · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's "You're an arrogant clueless fool" ;)

  10. This Calls For Thoroughly Childish Retaliation by flyneye · · Score: 5, Funny

    You could burn a bunch of live cds ,sneak in while the help is touching each others bottoms 'round back and reboot all their boxen to live cds .Shout "Fix that morons!" as you leave.
    Check back later to see if they really figured it out.
    (Remember kids,recycling old live distro disks is fun when the jokes on them.I like to recycle at *est *uy because they really go into convulsions)

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  11. Obviously Linux cause this by MobyDisk · · Score: 3, Funny

    Gentoo was so difficult to install that it forced him to hit the laptop in frustration, breaking the hinge. :)

  12. Re:install windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I recently took a Tablet PC purchased at CompUSA in for service (screen problems). I, of course, removed the hard drive for privacy concerns and they said it is corporate policy to not perform repairs without a hard drive. I asked for clarification and was told it just needed to be "a hard drive," not necessarily the original. So, I returned home, found an old, dead laptop HDD and drove a nail through it for good measure. Brought it in, they sent it away, and I got it back with a brand new HDD :)

  13. Re:Contact your local trading standards office by myowntrueself · · Score: 3, Funny

    Unfortunately that is somewhat difficult in the UK as the Thatcher regime allowed them to establish a virtual high street monopoly by buying Currys.

    Did Maggie allow them poppadoms as well?

    Would it have been any better if they'd been forced to buy Kebabs?

    Sorry, Dave Lister moment there...

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  14. Re:Their website... by RealityMogul · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey look, they have Wii's in stock!


    You have much to learn about slashdotting young grasshopper

  15. Re:Warranty Act by swordgeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    Ah yes. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, enacted in the 1970s in the USA. I'm sure the British stores are quaking in fear that they might get this thrown in their faces.

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  16. Bollocks. by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Of course it's:

    # USE="hardened" emerge gfx-hardware/display-hinge

    He didn't emerge it with the hardened flag the first time, which is why it broke. Duh.

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  17. when you service like that... by deft · · Score: 2, Funny

    When you bend someone over and service a guy like that, its gay.
    Unless of course its a girl getting serviced, and thats then being anal.
    or a girl servicing a guy, and that being strapped.
    or a girl servicing a girl, which is awesome.

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  18. Re:Your sig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    More like: Jesus saves. Buddha, Mohammed, Confucius, etc, are dead.
    uh, jesus died, in case you forgot.
  19. Re:install windows by Shadow-isoHunt · · Score: 5, Funny

    I do consulting work for a small electronics shop in Salt Lake City, and we do waranty/service center repairs. There was a Tablet PC that came to us from CompUSA about 2 months ago. It fit this description - and bugged the living hell out of us as to what could have possibly gone wrong with the drive to cause that. There were *no* tooling marks otherwise on the area... do you know what it's like to find a harddrive that EXPLODES on a head crash, man?

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  20. Re:Their website... by Dishevel · · Score: 3, Funny

    I clicked it and the idiots picked me out for a survey. I dont think it went well for them. :)

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  21. PC World by cruachan · · Score: 4, Funny

    It is difficult to imagine though why anyone who reads slashdot would buy a laptop from PC World in the first place.

  22. Re:Setting aside the humor, do they have a point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    it's like changing the car radio and then getting a problem with the exhaust. PC World have taken a look at that radio and said - "we don't support that radio, we can't fix your exhaust.

    when you have a modern car, it could be that the entire car is controlled by a single board computer system. the radio could be interfaced to that, or even be part of it. this is useful because it enables the control of the radio by events in the car (e.g. turning up the volume when the engine noise increases).
    now, when you replace the radio by an uncertified one there may be an effect on the board computer system.
    with sufficient integration this could affect the engine management (e.g. because it is running as a task on the same system) and thus the exhaust gases.
    this could destroy the catalitic converter, which one can consider part of the exhaust system.

    so, your problem with the exhaust can well be caused by changing the radio.
    similarly, running linux on a laptop could destroy it. and that is much less theoretical than the above example, as explained in the parent article.
    (for example, I have seen many reports about graphic card chips running hot in laptops running Linux that ran flawlessly under Windows)
    So please don't claim that changing the software has no effect on the hardware and should not affect warranty.

  23. Re:Setting aside the humor, do they have a point? by towsonu2003 · · Score: 2, Funny

    When you do be careful to be objective and not to let you go into hate speech. because usually computers are black?