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Bill Gates Denied Visa To Nigeria

Xight notes a Gizmodo story that is a few days old but hasn't gotten a lot of play. It seems that Nigeria recently denied Bill Gates a visa to travel there on his recent trip to Africa. The initial denial was "on the premise that they required proof he would not reside in Nigeria indefinitely, causing a strain on social services and a general nuisance for immigration." The comments to the post are worth reading too.

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  1. Misreading by psychicsword · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow I miss read that one...
    I read it as "Bill Gates Denies Vista for Nigeria"
    They would be very lucky if that was the case

    1. Re:Misreading by jmpeax · · Score: 5, Funny

      I read it as "Bill Gates denies Viagra".

      Then again, it is 5:55am here and I have just finished an essay.

    2. Re:Misreading by localman · · Score: 3, Funny

      I read the exact same thing. I guess my mind has grown some pretty gnarly auto-complete kruft :)

    3. Re:Misreading by ArcherB · · Score: 4, Funny

      I read it as "Bill Gates Denies Vista for Nigeria"

      Yeah, me too. Of course, after reading the title correctly, I am left wondering:

      Why does Bill Gates need a Visa? Isn't he rich enough to pay with cash? Surely he qualifies for an American Express Card! Master Card, Diners Club, Discover? Visa can't be his only option!

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    4. Re:Misreading by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Funny

      The comments attached to the article are great

      windows 98...shame on you
      windows Me...shame on me
      windows vista...GTFO of our country


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    5. Re:Misreading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Dude. Yes, he was aware. His jokes may be poor, but you're a fucking idiot.

    6. Re:Misreading by Cylix · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think the reason here is fairly obvious.

      He really isn't going to earn them much in interest charges. Unless the man is lazy whipping his accountants I do believe he will be quite on time with the FULL payment. This is really rather dreadful and such they did the proper course of action.

      No Bill, no visa for you today, but perhaps he will have good luck with that Diners Club card! Unfortunately, I believe the 7-11 here will probably write the letters LOL on a sheet of paper before pointing toward the door.

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    7. Re:Misreading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What makes it even funnier is that the son of the President of Nigeria, an overweight whiner named Dare Obasanjo, actualy works for Microsoft. Indeed, Billy boy consulted him before going to Nigeria to learn about the political climate there. (Nigeria is currently the most corrupt country in Africa).

      Some background: Dare uses his father's political power as an excuse to act like an ass in the halls of the Borg - you may remember the amusing Flame War between him and Al Billings. (Al Billings is a whiner who can't get anything of value done (cf Netcaptor/Borgzilla/MSN Explorer), probably blames it on management, and unfortunately now does QA work at Firefox). Because he "isn't afraid to criticize" (ie shouts louder than everyone else) Dare Obasanjo has a reputation as being exactly the forward thinking kind of guy who might bring new revenue streams to Micro$oft, instead of what he actually is, a loudmouth frat boy type living off his father's name.

    8. Re:Misreading by maxwell+demon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nigeria is currently the most corrupt country in Africa

      So maybe Bill Gates just didn't pay enough bribe?
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    9. Re:Misreading by Carbonite · · Score: 4, Funny

      You are aware that a joke is a short story or ironic depiction of a situation communicated with the intent of being humorous. Jokes are typically for the entertainment of friends and onlookers. The desired response is generally laughter; when this does not happen the joke is said to have "fallen flat" or "needs the ropes". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke/

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    10. Re:Misreading by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 4, Funny

      the son of the President of Nigeria, an overweight whiner named Dare Obasanjo [25hoursaday.com], actualy works for Microsoft.
      Does he have a shedload of money in a locked bank account, by any chance?
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    11. Re:Misreading by yuriyg · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not to defend anyone (since I don't know anything about Nigerian politics anyway), but according to wikipedia, Dare Obasanjo, is the son of the FORMER president of Nigeria. The current president is Umaru Yar'Adua.

    12. Re:Misreading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh, wow - this guy was my TA for CS2130 at Georgia Tech (his resume verifies that it's the same guy). He was the biggest ass-hat around, and single-handedly caused a lot of students to change majors that semester - they figured that if their future in the CS program was anything like dealing with that guy, it wasn't even worth it.

      I didn't know he was the son of the Nigerian president, but I guess that helps explain it to an extent.

    13. Re:Misreading by Lord+Kano · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I used to work with a guy from Zambia, otherwise I would know nothing of Pan African politics, and he told me that Nigerians aren't trusted ANYWHERE in Africa. It's even reflected in the immigration policies of other countries. For example, if my friend from Zambia wanted to visit south africa. They'd give him a Visa good for six months, if a Nigerian wants to visit they'll give him a Visa for five days.

      It's not just funny that they denied his Visa, it's a slap in the face that a country that is so universally distrusted.

      LK

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    14. Re:Misreading by Sardonic1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      If you give him your bank account information, he will transfer the money out of his country and into your account for which you will get a fee. Then you cash it out and send it to him via Western Union....

  2. Misread as... by Megane · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Bill Gates denied Vista to Nigeria"

    For a moment I wondered if Microsoft was trying to do something about 419 scams.

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    1. Re:Misread as... by edwardpickman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually it was. Bill Gates was trying to go there to personally pick up his 10 mill for helping some one transfer money out of the country.

  3. The only way he's going to become a nuisance... by wanderingknight · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...is if he plans to give away Vista CDs.

  4. What's next? MasterCard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know he's rich, but does he really have the power to deny credit cards to entire countries?

  5. My Dearest by Bluesman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bill Gates my Dear,

    we are deeply grateful sorry to not be approval of your visa into the country of Nigeria. The reasons for not doing so are abundant in nature. Please to rectify the following dear concerns we have:

    1) ur dick is 2 small. This pleases no Nigerian woman and is offensive toward the women. You think having average sized cock is OK? Regards, no.

    2) we believe for you want to reside in Nigeria indefinitely, causing a strain on social services and a general nuisance for immigration. If this is not your meaningful wish, offer to us a letter in explanation.

    3) You aren't really want to come to Nigeria, no? Tell us who you, in reality, are in person.

    Nigerian customs will make you a real man!

    Very Regards,
    Nigerian Immigration.

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    1. Re:My Dearest by Bluesman · · Score: 5, Informative

      Troll? Oh come on now, Nigerian moderators! Have a sense of humor.

      You know, I try to only post funny stuff now, and every negative mod I get brings the ol' karma down, since the funny mods, like goggles in acid, do nothing.

      Once that karma hits zero, I'm taking my ball and leaving, and you all will be left with nothing but Monty Python quotes and Soviet Russia and Overlord jokes.

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  6. Hello, My Name is Bill Gates by istartedi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hello, My Name is Bill Gates. Due to a recent administrative difficulty with the government of Nigeria, I himbly beseach your assistance in helping to move my $40,000,000,000 ass there. I will be so kind as to deposit a portion of this money in the account of your specification. Your assistance in this matter great isly apreciated, your servant, Bill Gates.

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  7. did they even hear what they were saying? by deathtopaulw · · Score: 5, Funny

    who could possibly want to stay in nigeria indefinitely?

    1. Re:did they even hear what they were saying? by Bluesman · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dunno. Mexicans?

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    2. Re:did they even hear what they were saying? by darkpixel2k · · Score: 5, Funny

      Umaru Musa Yar'Adua?

      Jar Jar? Is that you?

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    3. Re:did they even hear what they were saying? by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Funny

      "who could possibly want to stay in nigeria indefinitely?"

      Shell, BP, Texaco,...

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    4. Re:did they even hear what they were saying? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      `put a strain on already stretched social services in the Unites States while providing cheap untaxed labor to unscrupulous American businessmen.'

      So let's get this straight: somehow these *illegal* immigrants manage to claim social security (which requires official proof of entitlement and is therefore unavailable to illegals) - *AND* they work for a living at famously low wages?

      Hmm...

    5. Re:did they even hear what they were saying? by jcuervo · · Score: 2, Informative

      They use all the other services -- in particular, using the emergency room without paying for it has actually resulted in the closure of some hospitals.

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  8. That's the language the US uses by bogaboga · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The initial denial was "on the premise that they required proof he would not reside in Nigeria indefinitely,..."

    This kind of language is what [African] applicants for US visas face when denied US visas at the many US visa posts across the continent. I guess it cuts both ways.

    1. Re:That's the language the US uses by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I guess it cuts both ways.

      Yeah, other than the whole part where "he donates billions of dollars for health care and education" in that miserable country and its continent. Yes, there's SUCH a risk of him being a strain on their social services. African applicants for US visas face reality when they apply to come to the US. Nigeria denying Gates a visa isn't even remotely the same thing, and suggesting that it is cheapens the work and patience that would-be immigrants to the US have to show if they're not going to be illegal.

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    2. Re:That's the language the US uses by akintayo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think you might find that Nigeria does have a problem with illegal immigrants. While most people don't have billions to donate like Mr. Gates, the majority of VISITORS to the US do not want to stay and while visiting do contribute to your economy. And they are required to prove they will not be a burden, so I am not sure why he shouldn't be required to do the same.

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    3. Re:That's the language the US uses by HexaByte · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Yeah, other than the whole part where "he donates billions of dollars for health care and education" in that miserable country

      Precisely the problem. If they let him in, he'll find out it was all diverted to greedy government officials and cut them off!

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  9. get real by m2943 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Bill Gates" isn't exactly an unusual name, and if he didn't submit the right paperwork, of course it gets denied; even if you're an evil, monopolistic overlord billionaire, you still have to prove your identity and your financial status. It's either that, or use the backdoors in Windows to approve the paperwork himself, which I guess amounts to the same thing.

    (I suspect that his notoriety is kind of a nuisance for other people with that name, who probably have to deal with "stop clowning around, what's your real name" a lot. It's probably kind of nice that Nigeria treats the name as just a name).

    On the other hand, maybe they just correctly reasoned through that Gates was retiring in 2008, that Windows is having problems, and that his company definitely is being an economic nuisance to Nigeria already.

    1. Re:get real by Nephilium · · Score: 3, Funny

      It could get even worse... I knew someone named Richard Wadd... those were some cruel parents...

      Nephilium

  10. Nigerian economics by The_church_of_funzie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Someone was just looking for a bribe, that's all.
    Nigerian economy is in a crapper.

  11. Wha huh? by Jarjarthejedi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What in the world? Okay, this is just plain weird. First that they would deny Bill Gates a visa, I mean, unlike what many /.er's seem to think he's not exactly an evil guy or anything, it's not like he tortures puppies for fun or something. Second what kind of lame excuse is that they offered? I highly doubt Bill has any plans to move permanently to Nigeria (no offense to Nigeria but it's not quite the same as the US in terms of high end services) and that he would be a burden on social services is absurd, he's one of the richest people in the world, how could he strain social services?

    This is by far one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen...

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    1. Re:Wha huh? by geminidomino · · Score: 4, Funny

      We know he doesn't torture puppies for fun because he's too busy torturing users for profit!

      Duh.

  12. Bill didn't follow standard operating procedure by Lachrymite · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As an American who actually worked in Nigeria for awhile a few years ago, I can tell you what the problem may have very well been; he probably didn't give the proper cash "donations" to the right people.

    I actually had some problems with getting in myself that my employer had specifically prepared me to deal with, giving me a supply of local cash and instructions to use it liberally to ease my travel process. 500 Naira in the right hands turned the officials from meddlesome and probing to very welcoming in record time.

    1. Re:Bill didn't follow standard operating procedure by Lachrymite · · Score: 3, Informative

      The entire problem with corruption stems from the average Nigerian government worker making the equivalent of maybe 50 USD per month. Because of this, bribery runs rampant, as they have a lot of trouble surviving on such a low salary with such supplementary income.

    2. Re:Bill didn't follow standard operating procedure by SlappyBastard · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Does anyone recall an article from a while back about the audit of the budget for the movie Sahara? In the tax write-offs for the film (which was mostly shot in North Africa, not Nigeria) the producers actually wrote down "bribes" as an itemized deduction.

      Oddly, US tax laws include some leeway for writing off donations in handling business elsewhere in the world. Just, very few people overtly itemize the deduction as bribery. Although, that is what the deduction does.

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    3. Re:Bill didn't follow standard operating procedure by jesterzog · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The entire problem with corruption stems from the average Nigerian government worker making the equivalent of maybe 50 USD per month. Because of this, bribery runs rampant, as they have a lot of trouble surviving on such a low salary with such supplementary income.

      Although the cost of living is (presumably) much lower there, and you can bet that a typical government worker in any position that deals with foreigners will probably be on a salary that's a lot better than average. I do agree with you, though.

      I can't speak for Nigeria, but when I was on the tourist trail through Peru and Bolivia, I had the impression that the more corrupt people were comparatively rolling in money compared with those who were just trying to live their day-to-day lives. The best jobs were the ones where people would be exposed to tips from tourists, because the western tour companies always told western tourists to tip so hugely.

      My specific impression was that bribes and corruption-related payments were making a small minority of people very rich, but the wealth wasn't getting distributed at all. In fact, most of it was probably going straight back out of the country by purchasing of imported goods. (TVs, MP3 players, etc.) They might have been getting paid a crappy wage, but millions of other people were getting paid an order of magnitude worse, and on top of that they were not in an advantaged position to rip even more money off the foreigners.

      To be fair to Peru and Bolivia, both of them seem to be reforming a bit (although we were still being protected from seeing some places). The problems, though, are that there are cultures of corruption that go through the entire government at all levels, so that it's just seen to be okay. In a country where there's such a huge amount of poverty, the only way to really get ahead is by getting into a position that can be abused, and this becomes the norm.

    4. Re:Bill didn't follow standard operating procedure by MPAB · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In Peru, US$4 can get almost any traffic cop off your back. And there was a very publicized case where a judge (we don't use juries) changed a veredict after "being gifted" a fried chicken (about U$6).

      Still, the average salary in Peru is about US$100, cops make 200 a month and judges, about 800.

    5. Re:Bill didn't follow standard operating procedure by dajak · · Score: 2, Informative

      Another compelling example is Bhutan, which scores really well, but has little natural economic advantages.

      If it however were simply a matter of culture one wouldn't for instance expect to find Singapore in every top ten of least corrupt states. Surely similar cultures would have similar corruption scores, but many other countries that have Chinese and/or Malay culture (Malaysia, Indonesia, China) score considerably worse. North and western Europe are relatively unique as a contiguous block of countries with little corruption.

      I have no doubt that bureacratic integrity or corruption become part of a culture, and can linger on for some generations even if the original circumstances that favoured corruption/integrity disappear, but it is not the sole cause. Wealth in itself is not a major cause. More important than wealth per se are factors like whether corruption pays, perceptions of the government and its legitimacy, and of national solidarity, and the sources and distribution of wealth.

      Corruption pays if for instance the people paying the bribes can easily afford the bribe, and for the people receiving them it is a lot of money. The risk is low, and the incentive big. Western tourists in this sense help create a culture of corruption. Another example is rich people in poor countries paying a bribe to get a treatment in hospital or a phone line now instead of in 6 months like the other paupers.

      North and western Europe are typical in having a relatively high degree of trust in the government and firmly entrenched bureaucratic traditions (betrayed for instance by the fact that many of the high performers remained monarchies even when the rest of Europe was violently overthrowing them: Bhutan is also a monarchy). Here bureaucratic integrity basically perpetuates itself culturally, since the aura of integrity is probably one of the motivations for a public service career choice. Besides that, small scale corruption hardly pays here: only for instance real estate developers etc. can afford significant enough incentives to tempt public servants.

      Singaporeans all know their wealth depends on trade. Their location is their only natural asset, and competing slightly less good locations, for instance on the Sunda Strait, exist, so they must compete. A reputation for corruption would be a disaster for them. On the other hand in many other countries, where location or educated workforce is not an asset, the major source of GDP is having companies from other, more developed, countries pay for a concession to pump oil, mine diamonds, clear tropical forests, etc, while the majority of the population are subsistence farmers and are hardly involved in any economic activity with eachother. They may still be wealthy, if they have very valuable resources, but it is narrow income base that is to easy to monopolise.

      In this kind of economy the "American dream" is to be the guy that decides who gets the concession to mine or cut, or one of his cronies, and if the state also has different ethnic factions (i.e. lack of national solidarity) you have a recipe for rampant bribery, nepotism, cronyism, etc as the currently ruling ethnic faction tries to transfer as much wealth as they can to their own ethnic group before they are thrown out and the process starts again.

  13. Bill Gates purchases minor country by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The BBC is now reporting that Bill Gates has purchased the entire country of Nigeria. According to insider sources massive restructuring will occur in order to bring the property back into profitability. Layoffs are expected.

    1. Re:Bill Gates purchases minor country by whitehatlurker · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not sure why this is labelled "funny". Something like that might turn the country around.

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  14. 419 by orkysoft · · Score: 2, Funny

    Maybe they suspect he is actually looking for assistance in retrieving his significant fortune from the security company, where it is guarded by a mad chair-throwing bald man.

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  15. Reminds me of an old story... by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 5, Funny

    A friend of a friend (OK, so this is probably just a joke...) is entering Australia for an extended work contract, and the immigration official asks him if he has ever been convicted of a crime in his country of origin. He replied, "I didn't realize that was still a requirement for entry."

    If it's not a true story, it should be.

    1. Re:Reminds me of an old story... by porpnorber · · Score: 5, Funny

      My Dad was once going to the States from Canada. The border guard asked him if he was carrying firearms. He replied, "My God, is it really that bad here? Do you seriously recommend it?"

      While I thought it was funny, I will also admit that I didn't think it was the brightest thing to say at that time and place... but I guess clergy can get away with some things.

    2. Re:Reminds me of an old story... by mcsporran · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't do this.... Customs guys are not known for their sense of humour, particularly when it is an offensive joke, that they've heard literally thousands of times before.
      I know of one English guy, who told me of his arrival in the country, where his friend had filled out the criminal record question on the immigration form, with exactly that: "I didn't think you needed one any more...". Customs took one look at it, he got taken off for a private interview, and ended up heading back to Heathrow the same day.

      Thousands of £'s to see the inside of Sydney airport, can't come back for years, holiday they had planned for years ruined.

      Pretty funny huh ?

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    3. Re:Reminds me of an old story... by ta+bu+shi+da+yu · · Score: 3, Funny

      Actually, I found it pretty amusing and I'm an Aussie. Pretty much as amusing as a former New Zealand Prime Minister (I forget which one) who said that every time a New Zealander leaves NZ to soak up the sun on Bondi beach and collect the dole the average IQ of both countries rises.

      But those Customs guys don't have much of a sense of humour. Suggest that no American or Brit tries the joke out to see what happens.

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    4. Re:Reminds me of an old story... by DiscoFreq · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I heard you better don't tell such jokes at US airports ;)

    5. Re:Reminds me of an old story... by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Funny

      Heh. I got strip searched and turned away trying to hitchhike to the second woodstock from Canada. They made me take my pants off, and when I said "If you're going to search any more than this, I don't really need to come into your country" and he didn't laugh, I was pretty nervous. Just squeezed out my toothpaste tubes and cut up my bars of soap and whatnot and sent us home.

      No sense of humour at all.

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    6. Re:Reminds me of an old story... by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 5, Funny

      cut up my bars of soap
      I had the same going into France. Apparently they'd bever seen it before.
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    7. Re:Reminds me of an old story... by canuck57 · · Score: 2, Funny

      You need to choose the right time to wise-crack them. Only ever had one opportunity and took it.

      Needed to renew a TN-1 visa. While entering Canada, grinding her teeth she asked "What is your purpose of visiting Canada?" My reply, "To turn around and get hell back out.". She promptly said go and watched as I did. Hey, what was she going to do? Kick me out?

      I suspect she called the US side and told them about me. I was in and out with my new TN-1 in a record 7 minutes.

    8. Re:Reminds me of an old story... by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not to mention choking in big Rugby matches.

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    9. Re:Reminds me of an old story... by jrumney · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't do this.... Customs guys are not known for their sense of humour

      Oh, they're known for their sense of humour alright. Its just not the sort of sense of humour you want to be on the butt end of.

    10. Re:Reminds me of an old story... by Lemmy+Caution · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yep. Life's brutal, isn't it?

      Don't worry, many humorless oafs such as yourself still manage to find productive work as immigration officers.

  16. The actual problem... by HexaByte · · Score: 2, Funny
    The actual problem was that he was going there to get a return of the money he lost in a 419 scam, and taking 2.5 billion out of the Nigerian economy would be a drain on services and a nuisance to all the officials who took bribes as a part of the scam.

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  17. Nigeria uses Vista... by d3m0nCr4t · · Score: 2, Funny

    You are creating a visa. Cancel/Allow.

  18. Most likely a political thing. by Samir+Gupta · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most citizens of Africa and indeed, any "developing" country, have very difficult times obtaining US visas. The presumption of US visa officers is that you are an intending immigrant unless you show otherwise, ie, guilty unless proven innocent. Even if one provides paperwork like financial statements, etc, they are often thought to be forged, even if not. It all boils down to a quick interview of a couple of minutes at most where the officer has to review all documents and make a snap decision.

    I guess Nigeria just wanted to give the US a taste of its own medicine.

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    1. Re:Most likely a political thing. by Shihar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Giving a guy who is about to dump a few billion dollars into your nation "a taste of their own medicine" is by far the stupidest idea I can possibly think of. I don't rate Nigeria's government all that high in terms of competency, but unless the winners of the special Olympics have taken over the nation, I doubt this is some veiled attempt at diplomacy.

      I am pretty sure Nigeria doesn't have a big problem with Americans illegally immigrating into the nation. The most likely reason for this is simply that someone didn't get their bribe, doesn't really give a shit that Gates is looking to save a few million lives, and so found a piece of paper with a check box missing in it to deny entrance in hopes of getting his fair share to correct the 'misunderstanding'.

  19. Integer overflow? by Samir+Gupta · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was Nigeria using signed ints to indicate an applicant's financial status? I could see Bill's balance causing an overflow and appearing in the negatives leading to misinterpretation...

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    1. Re:Integer overflow? by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Was Nigeria using signed ints to indicate an applicant's financial status? I could see Bill's balance causing an overflow and appearing in the negatives leading to misinterpretation...

      You mean that recently-discovered MS-Excel math bug? Boy, wouldn't that be ironic.

    2. Re:Integer overflow? by Anpheus · · Score: 3, Funny

      ^
      |
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      Not a programmer.

    3. Re:Integer overflow? by jpfed · · Score: 2, Informative

      The reference was to a kind of variable that can be used when programming computers (called a "data type"). Data types for numbers differ in three key ways:

      1. How many bits are used to store the number?
      2. Is the decimal point free to move (called "floating point", akin to scientific notation), or is it fixed in place (like an integer, whose decimal point is stuck to the right of all the other digits)?
      3. Is it possible for instances of this data type to represent both positive and negative numbers, or is this data type restricted to numbers of all the same sign?

      A "signed int" refers to a data type that can store integers (positive or negative). Now, to keep track of the sign (ie. whether the variable is positive or negative) takes one bit (ignoring for the moment a slightly more efficient scheme called "two's complement representation"). Spending that one bit to remember what sign the number is reduces the highest absolute value you can store with a signed data type. So an unsigned int might be able to represent numbers from 0 to about 4 billion- but a signed int can represent numbers from negative 2 billion to positive 2 billion.

      The sign of the number is stored as the highest bit. So if you add something positive to a very large positive signed int, the carry from the second-to-highest bit will make the highest bit a 1- incorrectly indicating a negative answer. This phenomenon- where two positive signed ints added together give a negative result- is called "overflow".

  20. Canadian perspective by freeweed · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yeah, I tend to get grilled heading across the border. The US border guards seem to think my plan is to sneak in, and live in the US permanently.

    Seriously. Dude. I'm already a citizen of CANADA. Don't flatter yourselves.

    (note for the humour-impaired: I actually did consider the move before 9/11 - but today?? It's hard not to laugh at the border when they accuse me of this.)

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    Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
    1. Re:Canadian perspective by _Spirit · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, I've found that pointing stuff like this out to them doesn't generally expedite the process of going through immigrations though...

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      beauty is only a light switch away

    2. Re:Canadian perspective by freeweed · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Apparently,being a citizen of CANADA isn't all that it's cracked up to be for lots of folks.

      So don't flatter yourself.

      --
      Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be the name of a store, not a government agency.



      Yeah, you guys get our excess rednecks!

      In all seriousness, Canada's immigration rate is nearly double that of the US. The rest of the world disagress with your statement. Except maybe Russians - most of them are accustomed to living in a police state already.

      --
      Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
  21. Re:Is this news? Does this matter? by heinousjay · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Nerds can't be objective. One of the key defining characteristics is that they think they know everything, and along with that comes the need to spread the good word.

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    Slashdot - where whining about luck is the new way to make the world you want.
  22. They were just upset... by wombert · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...they never got the millions of dollars they expected after forwarding all those messages about Bill Gates sharing his fortune.

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    Did I say overlords? I meant protectors.
  23. *URGENT* HELP NEEDED TO TRANSFER FUNDS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    From: billgates@microsoft.com
    X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
    X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
    Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:11:04 +0000

    Dear friend,

      This letter might come to you as a surprise as we have not met
    before,but I believe that you would be compelled to help me after
    going through the contents of this letter.

    My name is William Henry Gates III, borned October 28, 1955. I am a
    American entrepreneur, philantropist and chairman of Microsoft,
    a american software companny.

    Basically, I was involved in maintaining my statusquo as the richest
    man in the world until August (2007), when a Mexican bilionaire called
    Carlos Slim surpassed my wealthy in (1) billion american
    dolars. He (Carlos Slim) did not stop at that; he also went on to
    afirm that his monopoly would be larger than mine.

    As at this momemt, I have grudgingly gone to Nigeria, in disguise, to
    undertake seizure of a hiden part of my fortune, totalling an extra USD
    $28,750,000,000 (twenty eight billion, seven hundred and fifty million
    United State Dolars) that I obtained from several russian organizations
    for facilitating scams, trojans and keyloggers business in Windows(tm)
    systems. However, since I must fake otherwise, I can only
    unlock the money in the local branch of my bank in Abuja, but I cannot
    take the money back with me.

    Hopefully, however, I can use the services of a Diplomatic Courier to move
    this money (registered as official docments) out of Nigeria to America.

    All you need to do is to claim this money from the Courier Company. You will
    be required to contact the Courier Company that moved this money (oficial
    documents) out of Nigeria to America. All neccesaries which can facilitate
    andn enable you claim the money on my behalf will be forwarded to you as
    soon as your consent to procced is received.

    For your assistance, you will be entitled to 20% of the total sum. This is
    over US $5,000,000,000 (five billion United State Dolars) for you, my friend.

    Can you help me? Are you trustworthy? Can you handle this money? Are
    you capable of handling this money? If so, please contact me.
    I will send instructions on how you must make a (symbolic) small initial
    deposit by Western Union or MoneyGram (at your personal choice) to the Courier
    company which will be promptly returned to you, just to prove that you have
    a working bank account that can receive the aforementioned large sum of money.

    Please send me your account details and address so that we can make this
    whole transaction as quick as possible.

    Your sincerely,
    Mr. William Henry Gates (the third)

    1. Re:*URGENT* HELP NEEDED TO TRANSFER FUNDS by suv4x4 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Basically, I was involved in maintaining my statusquo as the richest
      man in the world until August (2007), when a Mexican bilionaire called
      Carlos Slim surpassed my wealthy in (1) billion american
      dolars. He (Carlos Slim) did not stop at that; he also went on to
      afirm that his monopoly would be larger than mine.


      Month ago it was proven Carlos' claim was unfounded. Bill Gates still *is* the richest man on Earth.

  24. Foreign Competition by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    They're afraid that if they let him work in their country, he'll take jobs away from other billionaires.

  25. The real reason ... by SuluSulu · · Score: 5, Funny

    Give visa to Bill Gates? Cancel or Allow?

  26. No big deal by Black+Copter+Control · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Not everybody in Nigeria is necessarily going to know who Bill Gates is -- and even somebody who did would probably look at the name and presume that (since it wasn't handled at the diplomatic level), this must refer to some other Bill Gates than the one we (here on slashdot) love to hate.

    "and besides -- if it really is that Bill gates:
    1. It should be easy enough to prove that he won't be a mooch on Nigerian social services, and
    2. He has enough money to pay some lackey to handle this for him.
    ... and then, there's the geek factor of being able to say that "I told Bill Gates that he was too cheap to let into Nigeria."
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    OS Software is like love: The best way to make it grow is to give it away.
  27. Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation *is* scary... by christian.einfeldt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...if you were planning on expanding an African-named Linux distro on the African continent. Ubuntu comes to mind. But Ubuntu could become a total non-starter in Africa due to the efforts of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.

    So maybe the Nigerians were just trying to nip that IT monoculture in the bud.

  28. I've spent a lot of time in NIgeria by The+Mutant · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm in banking, used to work for the Professional Services division of one of the ratings agencies, and at that firm I was the only person willing to travel to Nigeria.

    Even considering the people living there are doing the best they can with what they got - I have a lot of respect for the dignity of the ordinary Nigerians just getting on with life - it's a pretty crappy place.

    My last two visits there THE POLICE tried to rob me, each time. And ordinary crime is far more pervasive and violent. Recently I read about an armed gang that raided a hotel lobby, fully knowing there would be business visitors checking in & out, with luggage, expensive laptops, mobile phones, cash and passports.

    South and East of Lagos in the Niger Delta region, Europeans and Americans must travel with very heavy security, as abductions for ransom are appallingly common, to the point where we were issued cards with instructions for how our abductors could arrange payment. They aren't going to harm you, for many of the gangs operating there it's just a business! Killing is bad business. Returning live hostages yields cash.

    Finally, there is a large North / South - Christian / Muslim divide, lots of tension that often erupts into violence.

    If Bill Gates was really denied a visa to visit Nigeria, this was more than likely based on fears for his safety and how embarrassing it would be for Nigeria should one of the world's richest men be held for a Software Magnates ransom.

    PS - While Africa's most populous country is hardly peaceful and not at all safe, I found it a strangely beautiful and compelling place.

  29. Re:Fuck you. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most [Australians] are descended from the best and brightest who escaped the shitty hell of other nations, such as your own.
    Uh, dude, how many Americans "escaped the shitty hell" of the United States to become citizens of Australia? I'd guess very few did.

    Why don't you stupid fucking yanks ever mention how you are all the offspring of a bunch of fucking religious nutters?
    To paraphrase something I read recently, "Only a tiny percentage of America's original settlers were "religious nutters". Most of us are descended from the best and brightest who escaped the shitty hell of other nations..."

    Or what about mentioning the genocide you perpetrated on the Native Americans?
    Erm, kind of like this? http://aboriginalrights.suite101.com/article.cfm/aboriginal_holocaust

    If you want someone to laugh at, take a look at the fucking inbred retarded rabble across the Tasman Sea, in New Zealand. They actually believe they are still a pommy colony! The place is like a Coronation Street fan convention.
    "It's wrong to make fun of Australians, but right to make fun of New Zealanders." Sure, okay.

    Australia, the country you are lamely trying to make fun of, out America'd America decades ago.
    Uhuh. Having met a few Australians in my lifetime, I can say that at least some Australians like to think of themselves as being "Yanks downunder". I have no idea why the hell they think that, nor can I understand why they'd even want to be (or just imitate) us! Haven't you ever heard of a guy called George W. Bush? Yeesh!

    Or did it not occur to you just why it is that Americans spend so much time obsessing about us?
    Oh, now that's just hilarious! I'm sorry dude, but it is.
  30. Funny? by nurb432 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, not really. Finally someone actually enforces their laws. Bill should get no more special treatment over anyone else.

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    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
  31. Re:Fuck you. by Barny · · Score: 3, Funny

    Speak for yourself, one of my ancestors was a document forger sent over on the first shipment, and I am damn proud to be descended from them (can you say, early software pirate) :P

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    ...
    /me sighs
  32. Re:Fuck you. by kiddygrinder · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sorry about him, i think we just got internet access in our asylums or something.

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    This is a joke. I am joking. Joke joke joke.
  33. I went throught the same. by shinmai · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I went throught exactly the same thing when I went to Switzerland to study there for a year when I was a teen. They denied me a visa because they were afraid I'd stay there indefinitely. What I did was just stay there for two months at a time, then visit Germany for a few days to reset my turist-visa and come back. Every two weeks or so the immigration office would call my grandparents place (I was staying with them, they've been living there for like 30 years or something) and ask if we had any illegal aliens living in our house. They apparently still harrass my grandparents from time to time, even though both have changed their nationality to Swiss..

    I kind of understand why this kind of thing would be a problem for a country like Switzerland, where in Zürich alone 20% of the population is of foreign descent, but how much of an incoming immigration problem does Nigeria really have?

  34. Re:It doesn't have to be a Customs officer. by 1u3hr · · Score: 3, Informative
    Some AC wrote: Very few Australians tolerate any reminders of their heritage, a fact your own posts demonstrate all too clearly.

    My "heritage" does not include any criminal transportees. Though if it did, I would not be bothered. I'm a 5th-generation Australian. You have to be at least 8th to have that distinction. This is a racist joke, though I know we white people aren't allowed to take offence at such. And I wouldn't mind if it wasn't dragged out here every fucking time Australia was mentioned, and modded up +5 funny. Repeat a putdown often enough and it becomes abuse.

  35. Heinlein had it right by mangu · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Look what Robert Heinlein had to say about corruption:

    "No matter how lavishly overpaid, civil servants everywhere are convinced that they are horribly underpaid - but all public employees have larceny in their hearts or they wouldn't be feeding at the public through. These two facts are all you need - but be careful! - a public employee, having no self-respect, needs and demands a show of public respect." ("Friday", 1982)


    If you have to pay, it must be the right amount, given in the right way. Corruption has its own protocol, which varies from place to place. I don't know, but in this case it could even be that Bill offered too much, too openly.

  36. loudmouth frat boy living off dad's name by mrjacques · · Score: 4, Funny

    "...a loudmouth frat boy type living off his father's name." Hey, tell him he could be President of the U.S.

  37. Re:Fuck you. by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

    Heck yes. They can't get enough of cuckoo clocks, lederhosen and yodelling.

    --
    Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  38. Re:Misreading ... wow great essay? by pbhj · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wow if you read that as "viagra" what the hell did you write in your essay?