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NC State Creates Most Powerful Positron Beam Ever

eldavojohn writes "A fairly large breakthrough took place earlier this month with the most powerful man-made antimatter electron beam ever being created at North Carolina State University. Professor Hawari who worked on the project explains its benefits: 'The idea here is that if we create this intense beam of antimatter electrons — the complete opposite of the electron, basically — we can then use them in investigating and understanding the new types of materials being used in many applications.'"

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  1. Obligatry by Avitor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Whatever you do, don't cross the streams...

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    1. Re:Obligatry by cytg.net · · Score: 2, Funny

      "The reactor is a huge recruiting tool," Hawari said. "After they get exposure to the reactor and the facilities online at their own universities, many of them become excited about the possibility of coming to NC State for hands-on experience.""

      - excited or radient ?

    2. Re:Obligatry by opieum · · Score: 2, Funny

      Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Antimatter the same crap that Star Trek says is bad. Malon Frieghters (people in hazmat suits without helmets real smart bunch there) polluted space with that stuff in Voyager, Warp Cores on starships explode when antimatter leaks and all that fun stuff and here we are making laser beams of the shit? Yep I see lots more military applications there than I do "Scientific"

    3. Re:Obligatry by snoyberg · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, Star Trek says it's dangerous, therefore it MUST be a bad idea to investigate it...

      And anyway, as a Trekkie, I can tell you that you're completely wrong; they use "anti-matter" drives. According to Star Trek, anti-matter is just as "bad" as gasoline: if something bad happens they both blow up.

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    4. Re:Obligatry by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 4, Funny
      "...many of them become excited..."

      Do the students emit photons when they relax?

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    5. Re:Obligatry by markov_chain · · Score: 2, Funny

      Definitely the latter. "The students practically radiate with curieosity" "The students' eyes scintillate with joy"

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    6. Re:Obligatry by petermgreen · · Score: 2, Informative

      antimatter is nasty in the sense that when it hits matter it releases lots of energy. weight for weight it would make nukes look tame.

      However antimatter does not to our knowlage occour in significant quantities naturally and it isn't feasible to make enough of it to be dangerous (we have to make it from energy and I don't think the process is very efficiant).

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    7. Re:Obligatry by obeythefist · · Score: 4, Funny

      Nah that was Theta radiation dude. Whatever that is. Go brush up on your particle of the month. Some people here wouldn't know a chronatron from a tribble.

      Also, when do we get the stories of the police using weaponised versions of the antimatter gun on students?

      "Don't positron me bro!"

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    8. Re:Obligatry by guywcole · · Score: 2, Funny

      According to the Stephen-Boltzmann law, yes.

      Hey, did I just hear something fly over my head?

    9. Re:Obligatry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You read Dan Brown too? ;P

    10. Re:Obligatry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no, but excitation causes body heat to rise. This is accompanied by flushing of the skin to remove excess heat when blood comes closer to the surface. The result is that the students DO emit infra-red photons in a larger quantity.

    11. Re:Obligatry by jhylkema · · Score: 1

      Why worry? Each one of us is wearing an unlicensed nuclear accelerator on his back.

      Mother pus bucket!

      But yes it's true, this man has no dick.

    12. Re:Obligatry by marcosdumay · · Score: 1

      No, but they do emit a lot of phonons.

    13. Re:Obligatry by love-blood-rhetoric · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So, I would really like to know the characteristics of this beam. Are they creating and destroying positrons with the highest flux in the world? Here at CHESS, we run a beam of positrons as well as electrons in CESR with an energy of 5GeV @ 240mA. Granted they are recirculating through the ring, but the instantaneous power of this is [nearly and for effect] 1.21 GW. However, it if one were to direct this at a target, you would destroy the entire beam in nanoseconds. The sustained power would be that which the gun and linac can provide which is still huge (10's of MeV @ 10's of mA), albeit for 10's of minutes before the gun must cool.

      I do wish the article gave more information. If someone has some, please post it.

    14. Re:Obligatry by Ortega-Starfire · · Score: 1

      Flux capacitor? 1.21 Jiggawatts? Lazer beam? Hell, all we need now are sharks added to the equation...

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    15. Re:Obligatry by jimbojw · · Score: 1

      Some people here wouldn't know a chronatron from a tribble.
      That's ridiculous. Everyone knows they're the same thing.
    16. Re:Obligatry by ultranova · · Score: 1

      Warp Cores on starships explode when antimatter leaks and all that fun stuff and here we are making laser beams of the shit?

      They are not laser beams, since they are not made of light. These are antimatter cathode rays. In the interests of marketing lets call them Cathode Antimatter Rays, or CARs, and make everyone think the scientists have built warp drives for road vechiles.

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    17. Re:Obligatry by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      to put into perspective just how potent antimatter is.

      lets say 1kg of antimatter anihilates 1kg of antimater.

      e=mc^2

      c=3*10^8

      e=18*10^16 joules

      180 petajoules!

      or to put it in more familiar units a kilo of antimatter would be roughly equivilent to a 4 megaton nuke.

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    18. Re:Obligatry by Random832 · · Score: 1

      Right, but... the thing is, you have to put _in_ 180 petajoules to get a kilogram of antimatter. You can't just find it lying around.

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  2. Opposite of electrons... by newgalactic · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, will it make my Ironman watch run backwards? OR block out all neural activity?

    1. Re:Opposite of electrons... by monkeyboythom · · Score: 2, Funny

      Actually, it blocks out all positive thinking. Sheesh! Some scientist you are...

    2. Re:Opposite of electrons... by newgalactic · · Score: 1

      ...and I thought that was the purpose of Chemistry (101).

    3. Re:Opposite of electrons... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OR block out all neural activity?

      That depends how much they managed to crank it up.

      (Hint: "death" is one way to block neural activity)
    4. Re:Opposite of electrons... by beckerist · · Score: 1

      you wouldn't think much is needed...

    5. Re:Opposite of electrons... by pclminion · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, NEGATIVE thinking will cause you brain to detonate with the force of a nuclear warhead. Probably better not to think at all...

    6. Re:Opposite of electrons... by cthulu_mt · · Score: 1

      So I should mod you down on the premise that in a positron stream I'll be recognizing the humor in your post?...Man I hate science, thank god I have this Liberal Arts degree and never have to use ma brainz again.

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    7. Re:Opposite of electrons... by fractoid · · Score: 1

      OR block out all neural activity? Speaking of this, did anyone else misread the title as "NC State Creates Most Powerful Positronic Brain Ever"? Too much Asimov for me, I guess. :P
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  3. Hmmm... by moogied · · Score: 1
    A giant beam, whos primary purpose is to create peices of energy that explode when in contact with normal matter...

    I smell a sitcom!

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    1. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Or a Val Kilmer movie.

    2. Re:Hmmm... by Bravoc · · Score: 2, Funny
      Hehe - I got it!

      Let's fill this guys house with a whole shitload of unpopped popcorn see... and then we can take this beam see... and like point the beam at it and like... er... no, wait a minute

  4. So who will mount these on sharks? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I can't have frickin' laser beams, I want positron beams!

    1. Re:So who will mount these on sharks? by Foobar+of+Borg · · Score: 2, Funny

      Jesus Christ, dude. Will you please let this fucking "joke" die?
      In Soviet Russia, joke fucks YOU!
  5. Omitted text from the article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Professor Hawari who worked on the project explains its benefits: 'The idea here is that if we create this intense beam of antimatter electrons -- the complete opposite of the electron, basically -- we can then use them in investigating and understanding the new types of materials being used in many applications.'"

    He added: " We are not quite sure how long it will take to miniaturize the technology for shark mounted applications, but we expect this to be investigated thoroughly in the future"

  6. Is this Slashdot or.. CNN? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The idea here is that if we create this intense beam of antimatter electrons -- the complete opposite of the electron, basically -- we can then use them in investigating and understanding the new types of materials being used in many applications. Captain Obvious called, he's going to rob this guy blind with business method patent charges.
  7. Little useful info in TFA by burtosis · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Do the news reporters talk to the scientists anymore? Or does the average joe just not care?

    Apparently outdoing some undisclosed reactor in Munich is about all they say.

    Apparently in 1985 you couldn't walk into a store and buy plutonium but perhaps in 2015 you can buy antimatter.

    1. Re:Little useful info in TFA by burtosis · · Score: 3, Interesting

      http://positrons.physics.lsa.umich.edu/nanopos/Publications/Reprints/Annual%20Rev%20Materials%20Research%20PAS%202006.pdf Used mostly for characterizing porus materials. Fun read if you find materials or nuclear science interesting, however perhaps too boring to put forth as informations in TFA.

    2. Re:Little useful info in TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good golly! We can't let Iran get positron beams, so we need to nuke all their vacuum chambers immediately! And the wheel, that's a bad idea, could lead to chariots! We need to nuke them immediately! And Windows Vista... wait. Let them have Windows Vista. it'll set them back 50 years. SOLD.

  8. Ghostbusters!! by BoyIHateMicrosoft! · · Score: 1

    So besides ghost busting, what does this thing do? In all seriousness TFA says that is allows microscopes to see stuff at an atomic level. I thought there were already microscopes out there that did that???

    1. Re:Ghostbusters!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that was a proton beam, this is a positron beam.
      Hand in your geek card at the door

    2. Re:Ghostbusters!! by newgalactic · · Score: 1

      It allows atomic level photographs to be viewed in sepia.

    3. Re:Ghostbusters!! by BoyIHateMicrosoft! · · Score: 1

      I almost swear at some point they talk about having a positron glider. Maybe I was smoking crack here, but I'm fairly certain it was. Anyways...

    4. Re:Ghostbusters!! by kebes · · Score: 5, Informative

      Electron microscopes can already image at the atomic level, but a positron microscope has advantages because it can give complimentary information (e.g. about the positions of atomic vacancies). You can also use positron beams for PALS (Positron Annihilation Lifetime Spectroscopy), which is a powerful tool for determining the distribution of sizes in (nano-scale) voids in materials (difficult to measure by any other technique). It's also worth remembering that PET scans used in medicine involves a positron-emitting chemical injected into the patient.

      There are probably a whole bunch of other experiments that positrons would be great for performing, but intense positron sources are not readily available. The development of more intense positron sources will certainly be welcomed by the scientific community, as it may allow previously unimagined types of measurements.

    5. Re:Ghostbusters!! by BoyIHateMicrosoft! · · Score: 1

      Awesome!! Thanks for the info! I'd mod you up if I had points.

    6. Re:Ghostbusters!! by BoyIHateMicrosoft! · · Score: 1
      So my wording was off, but I knew they talked about positron's in Ghostbusters!!!!!

      In the film Ghostbusters, Peter Venkman refers to his proton pack as a "positron collider" while he and his fellow teammates trap their first ghost since going into business.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron I know it's only Wikipedia but still...
    7. Re:Ghostbusters!! by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1

      I might point out that Barbarella had the positronic ray. Well, actually, it was Duran Duran.

    8. Re:Ghostbusters!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Electron microscopes can already image at the atomic level, but a positron microscope has advantages because it can give complimentary information


      Oh. So, electrons charge for information?

    9. Re:Ghostbusters!! by marcello_dl · · Score: 1

      For the record and for googling too, the name is Durand Durand. Besides, not a good idea to misspell the name of a guy with a positron ray.

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    10. Re:Ghostbusters!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you! Someone who treasures physics more then Sci-Fi!

      Two questions (for the crowd). HOW INTENSE IS IT? And do you really need a freaking fission reactor to create this many positions? How are these positions generated? There are several ways, I think, but I must admit I am no physicist, just dream of being one but remembering Oppenheimer and Dr. Strangelove himself, Teller.

  9. sharks by hoto0301 · · Score: 1, Funny

    how soon can we affix these beams to sharks' heads?

    1. Re:sharks by compro01 · · Score: 1

      well, you're gonna have to breed some pretty big sharks...

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  10. Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Sneakernets · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Currently, there are approximately 25 universities across the United States with active nuclear reactors on campus


    You know, when you've read as many science fiction books as I have, this shit is a liiiitle creepy.

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    1. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by peektwice · · Score: 1

      Yes, and one of the news magazine shows (20/20, 60 minutes, I forget which) had an article about the complete lack of security at these reactors. Often, the security is a grad student with next to no sleep.

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    2. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by JK_the_Slacker · · Score: 0

      Approximately? Who the heck couldn't count to 25?

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    3. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by smussman · · Score: 2

      While that may be true in some places, it's not true everywhere. http://news.uns.purdue.edu/html4ever/2005/051014.Reactor.ABC.html

    4. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Wilson_6500 · · Score: 5, Informative

      You know, when you've read as many science fiction books as I have, this shit is a liiiitle creepy.

      Why? These are usually research reactors, from what I understand. They're not meant to power cities; they're not meant to run at a profit. They're meant to generate some types of isotopes for nuclear medicine students, and to give the nuclear engineers something to do.

      I've read a lot of science facts, and that's why this shit doesn't feel that creepy at all. I don't mean to single you out, of course, and there are plenty of valid security and OSHA-like concerns at pretty much any nuclear facility; the public's allergy to anything remotely involving the word "radiation," however, is something that could stand a lot of improvment. The dangers of nuclear science are more to do with mismanagement and a lazy operating culture--which are thankfully not fundamental physical issues but rather human ones that can potentially be fixed.

      And, frankly, I'd rather the public learn about nuclear science from scientists rather than science fiction authors.

    5. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reactor here at the University of New Mexico is limited to only 5 Watts by the NRC. It can go critical, but it can't power a light bulb... we use it mainly for short-lived beta source creation.

    6. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by BlueParrot · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes, and one of the news magazine shows (20/20, 60 minutes, I forget which) had an article about the complete lack of security at these reactors. Often, the security is a grad student with next to no sleep.


      Did they also mention that these reactors have a very low power output and that you couldn't cause a meltdown even if you tried? Even for a dirty weapon the material in these reactors would be rather useless. You can find more dangerous chemicals in your local paint shop.

      Having said that, I think we should ban the nuclear family on health and safety grounds. IT'S NUCLEAR! THINK OF THE CHIDLREN!
    7. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by clarkcox3 · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think you mean NUKYULAR!

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    8. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah, with all those atoms and neuters floating around...

    9. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

      I don't know, but I sure hope they didn't go to one of those 25-ish universities.

    10. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by olddotter · · Score: 2, Informative

      Currently, there are approximately 25 universities across the United States with active nuclear reactors on campus

      You know, when you've read as many science fiction books as I have, this shit is a liiiitle creepy.


      This isn't a little creepy. Idiocracy is a bit creepy. Manna is a bit creepy. And this Wired story is down right scary and creepy. If we continue down this path, then we are well on our way to being a nation of idiots.

    11. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, Nucular physics is physics related to the Nuculus.

    12. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by PackMan97 · · Score: 1

      Not really. The PULSTAR is a whopping 1MW reactor. Although, it is kinda freaky that it sits right smack in the middle of campus and that must students don't even know it's there!

      If you'd like to know more about State's NE program here is a link, http://www.ne.ncsu.edu/

    13. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by pclminion · · Score: 1

      Currently, there are approximately 25 universities across the United States with active nuclear reactors on campus You know, when you've read as many science fiction books as I have, this shit is a liiiitle creepy.

      Reed College here in Portland has one. It never seems to be mentioned in the news, ever. I assume they are not actively using it. I've actually been inside the main reactor chamber once. Obviously it was not turned on. Very cool, fascinating, and scary at the same time.

      Ahh, Reed College. There used to be a bong chained to the floor in the student union there. You could toke it up, but Don't Steal That Bong.

    14. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by TFer_Atvar · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, there are 32. I wrote my senior thesis on this topic. That number is actually down from the late 1970s, when there were nearly 60. As a previous commenter said, they're virtually all research reactors, and most are of the TRIGA design designed by General Atomics. When the engineers and scientists went about designing it in the 1950s, they asked themselves how they could design a reactor that was completely accident-proof. Even if you wanted to melt down a TRIGA, you couldn't. Yanking every control rod fully out of the reactor will cause a spark in neutron activity before the water moderates the reaction back down. NC State had the first collegiate nuclear reactor in the United States, before even the TRIGA design. Rest assured, they know what they're doing.

    15. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I don't see how this post is insightful -- it doesn't say anything factual. I have been around a research reactor at Cornell, before they closed it (in 2001 I think they finally did). They showed us how it operates. We (the students in the Nuclear Engineering class) were in the control room when they let it go critical. Those reactors are a completely different design than power-generating or breeder reactors. By design they cannot go critical for more than a millisecond or so -- the nuclear reaction shuts itself down due to the nature of the neutron crossection of Uranium. The reactor at Cornell was an open reactor -- it was at the bottom of a pool of water and one could look at it from above -- it glowed nice and blue. Also those are reactors that run on Uranium that is only weakly enriched and cannot be used for weapons.

    16. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL - Humans can be fixed

    17. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by 644bd346996 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Note: I've been in the PULSTAR reactor room several times.

      Nuclear reactors generally pose two threats. The first is that they will get out of control. That can't happen at NC State. By the time the water gets hotter than bathwater, alarms would be going off. The reactor isn't allowed to get at all close to boiling.

      The other risk comes from the radioactive substances being stolen. Ignoring the fact that the stuff in the reactor is the least accessible stuff in the building, you would need lethal weapons and scuba gear to get significant quantities out of the reactor room. Getting the stuff off campus would be even harder.

      There is a much bigger risk of somebody raiding the chemistry labs for chemical weapons materials.

    18. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I think we've proven ourselves much better at working around the physical issues than the human ones.

    19. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Is that sustained or pulse power? Most research reactors can be pulsed to similar numbers for a millisecond or so before they shut themselves down.

    20. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calm down. Every research reactor I've been to (University of Utah student) has been so low-powered it's laughable that anything terrible would happen. The stuff contained in physics and chemistry labs are much more dangerous than these reactors.

    21. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Excuse me I'm looking for the nuclear wessels.

      Nuclear wessels.

    22. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Grishnakh · · Score: 0, Troll

      And, frankly, I'd rather the public learn about nuclear science from scientists rather than science fiction authors.

      The problem with this, in the USA, is that American culture doesn't value science or scientists. In fact, our culture does everything it can to dissuade people from even seeking a career in science, so all our science is now done by foreign graduate students working on their PhD before they go back home to help build their own country, where their skills are valued culturally.

      I think we should send all these research reactors to foreign universities, along with all our scientific academic programs. After all, we're not interested in pursuing science ourselves any more, so why not just ship it all off to people who are?

    23. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by eipo · · Score: 1

      No worries about this one.
      The entire reactor is housed in a fairly small building on campus. The Nuclear Engineering students I ran across always joked that it was barely powerful enough to run a coffee pot.
      Besides, the Comp Sci building is right next door and I only ever got a little irradiated...

    24. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by obeythefist · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and with a research reactor, it's not like they should have even close to a critical mass worth of uranium or, you know, weapons grade plutonium kicking around.

      I guess if one of them screwed up badly it might be a little more dangerous than being x-rayed a few times, but don't quote me on that, I'm so not a nuclear physicist.

      Speaking of sci fi, I was reading an Arthur C Clarke novel the other day and Arthur mentions one of his characters has a uranium paperweight... huh.

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    25. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by AJWM · · Score: 1

      Currently, there are approximately 25 universities across the United States with active nuclear reactors on campus

      You know, when you've read as many science fiction books as I have, this shit is a liiiitle creepy.


      I'm surprised that you're surprised. Heck, I didn't know the number but I knew various universities had nukes even in the sixties when I was in grade school -- I even got to visit the University of Toronto's reactor (well, parts of it) during an open house.

      We're talking research reactors of a few kilowatts (or so) here, not multi-hundred-megawatt power reactors. (Although NC State has a one megawatt "swimming pool" type (see the "Dr. No" movie) reactor, and McMaster U in Hamilton (half way between Toronto and Buffalo if you're driving around the lake) has a 5 MW reactor (also pool type) which has a full containment building.)

      The very first nuclear reactor was constructed in a racquet court at University of Chicago, for Pete's sake. I don't know what kind of "science fiction" you're reading, but you might want to look for something with a little more science.

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    26. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by wizzahd · · Score: 1

      Yeah. The 's' is silent.

    27. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by AJWM · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and with a research reactor, it's not like they should have even close to a critical mass worth of uranium

      It's probably not going to work real well if they don't.

      Mind, if the U-235 is mixed with U-238, not to mention the various other elements mixed in to make the fuel assembly, it's not exactly going to be weapons grade. The other thing is that some designs (eg SLOWPOKE) make heavy use of beryllium reflectors to reduce the mass needed for criticality. (Since SLOWPOKE uses about 93% enriched uranium, this is a good thing. Even though that uranium is alloyed with aluminum in the fuel assembly, separating aluminum and uranium is trivial compared to enriching uranium.)

      But yeah, uranium and radiation in general is a lot less scarey than most people think. No doubt a legacy from all those 50's sci-fi movies (which makes one wonder how much Hollywood really was being subtly influenced by the Soviets in those days).

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    28. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Your opinion about foreign graduate students is a bunch of crap. The reason there are so many foreign students in graduate school is because the majority of Americans don't need/want to. Foreigners are at a big disadvantage since they are foreign. It would make sense they would go to the effort to get any extra edge they can when competing for jobs. A lot of foreign graduate students would stay here in America except we kinda drive them out because they have trouble becoming legal citizens. We should be snatching these people up since they're motivated, smart and help the economy.

    29. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by DigiShaman · · Score: 0

      Also those are reactors that run on Uranium that is only weakly enriched and cannot be used for weapons.


      Yes it can!

      Ever heard of a "dirty bomb"? Cleanup would be a bitch, but the socioeconomic impact would be devastating. Hell, i'd wager the US media would PAY for an event like this. Nothing like a good story to bring in the ratings.

      Given the amount of anti-Americanism fostered in college campuses around the country, the chance for another "Timothy McVeigh vigilantism" (in the form of a dirty weapon) even rises the possibility for such an attack.

      I do hope this material is kept under lock-and-key as every says it is. I'll just have to take their word for it...
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    30. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by rcani · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Honestly, stealing reactor materials from the Pulstar probably wouldn't be that hard. When you think about the amount of time spent planning the 9/11 attacks, a couple of semesters to become a reactor operator wouldn't be that big a deal. or there are others experiments going on in the reactor bay, so I assume the people running those experiments have access. Once you have physical access to the reactor you wouldn't need weapons or SCUBA gear, particularly assuming you don't mind death from radiation poisoning/cancer. just pull the rods out and put them in a box. then stroll off campus.

      (lawyer note: I don't recommend this, you will probably get caught and spend the rest of your life in jail, plus it's just plain a bad idea)

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    31. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by compro01 · · Score: 1

      nevermind that the fuel is about as radioactive as your morning coffee and is only present in small quantities, plus the fact that the alpha radiation emitted by uranium (and it's isotopes) can't even penetrate skin and would be stopped by your clothes before that.

      about the only way to get harmed by uranium is to eat it, have it fall on you from a height, or leave it laying around for years, as when it decays into radon, it's significantly more ugly.

      though, of course, it's NUCULAR! RADIATION! FEAR! PANIC! INSANITY! DEATH!

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    32. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what the fuck is a "Nuculus"?

    33. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of radiation escaping the PULSTAR...

      Amusingly enough, the waste water released from Burlington Labs (NCSU Nuke labs) is actually less radioactive than Raleigh drinking water.

      That being said, it's a misconception to think that the reactor (ANY reactor) would be the primary target of people after causing some radioactive nastiness. With power reactors- you should worry about the spent fuel pools since they don't have big concrete containments. With a reactor like the PULSTAR, it's the stuff produced in the experiment housing and taken outside the rector area.

      The reactor housing and control room are not only the most secure parts of the building, but the most secure areas on campus. There are however radioactive materials kept in lab areas outside the reactor. Even were these materials neither regularly cataloged, generally low intensity/short lived isotopes, nor more secure than any chem lab on campus - it'd be a more efficient endeavor to collect smoke alarms for the Am in them. The worst thing that is brought out of the reactor area is the occasional PuBe source for neutron detection labs- and then only under supervision of a professor or other authorized individual and only for a short time.

    34. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here's how I know that, unlike me, you aren't an NCSU NE graduate student:

      1.) The fuel rods are something you can just "remove." This action poses some purely physical difficulties- they're meters underwater, bathed in a deadly neutron flux, and have to be removed by tools taking a lot of time.
      2.) Monitors at access points would detect something being removed and sound alarms.
      3.) You don't really get to be alone with the reactor for any period of time worth mentioning.
      4.) Fuel rods aren't the attractive target people think they are.
      5.) Becoming a reactor operator and being allowed access to the PULSTAR directly involves more than just taking a few classes- security post 9/11 is much greater. Undergraduates aren't allowed to have keys to the classroom building anymore, let alone the reactor. There are things called background checks by the way.

    35. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what the fuck is a "Nuculus"?
      A Homunculus which is not gay?
    36. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yet you're quite comfortable with schools full of handguns

    37. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Daimanta · · Score: 1

      Nuclear reactors generally pose two threats. The first is that they will get out of control. That can't happen at NC State. By the time the water gets hotter than bathwater, alarms would be going off. The reactor isn't allowed to get at all close to boiling. There have been a multitude of accidents in big nuclear reactors and at Chernobyl we learned that practically safe is not safe enough. And don't say that it happened because of defective russian equipment or something. The US has had it's own nuclear mistakes.
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    38. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Ansonmont · · Score: 1

      Case in point, accidental Minot-Barksdale transfer of warheads by Airmen unwilling to follow protocol.

    39. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Beyond_GoodandEvil · · Score: 1

      And don't say that it happened because of defective russian equipment or something
      Riiiight, b/c the failure of the control rods to fully insert due to poor design of the Russian reactor, which was the cause of the Chernobyl diaster is not germane to the point of nuclear safety how? Oh, I see you don't understand the NC State reactor isn't generating steam which is the explosive part of most of the reactor incidents, there problem solved.

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    40. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's sustained power. They don't manipulate the pulse-rod anymore. It's be all-in for years at this point, although when it was the pulsed power was in the thousands of megawatts range though only for tens of microseconds.

    41. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by boyfaceddog · · Score: 1

      The dangers of nuclear science are more to do with mismanagement and a lazy operating culture--which are thankfully not fundamental physical issues but rather human ones that can potentially be fixed. An optimist. How quaint. I, as a pessimist, prefer to believe the readily available and observable facts that those problems can't be engineered out of any system to the point that it becomes fool proof. I'm not saying we shouldn't do all we can to move to nuclear power, I'm just saying it will be very risky no matter what we do.
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    42. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by rcani · · Score: 1

      1.) The fuel rods are something you can just "remove." This action poses some purely physical difficulties- they're meters underwater, bathed in a deadly neutron flux, and have to be removed by tools taking a lot of time. 2.) Monitors at access points would detect something being removed and sound alarms. 3.) You don't really get to be alone with the reactor for any period of time worth mentioning. 4.) Fuel rods aren't the attractive target people think they are. 5.) Becoming a reactor operator and being allowed access to the PULSTAR directly involves more than just taking a few classes- security post 9/11 is much greater. Undergraduates aren't allowed to have keys to the classroom building anymore, let alone the reactor. There are things called background checks by the way. 1. I didn't say it would be easy, I said it would be possible. The fact is that the fuel rods can be removed, and it doesn't require SCUBA gear, as the grandparent said. 2. Again, not easy, but doable. Any alarm system is fallible. Keep in mind that I am working under the assumption that the people involved are NCSU students with clean background checks who have taken the time and energy to be given direct access to the PULSTAR. Given time and ingenuity I am fairly certain that an intelligent individual could figure out how to get past the alarm systems. Remember, the individual doesn't need to not get caught, or even survive, for very long. He just has to get the rods to his buddy on the outside. 3. I believe I specifically mentioned that multiple people would be involved(if not, shame on me). The trick isn't to be alone, its not be not alone with the right person. 4. Not attractive to someone building a nuke, more attractive to someone building a dirty bomb. Your logic is also faulty, if people think its an attractive target, then it becomes an attractive target. Whether it's a good target is an entirely separate matter. 5. I apologize for being imprecise in my first post, I do not actually know the amount of time required to become a reactor operator. I do, however, know it can be done. Oh no, background check? I guess we are all saved. It's a good thing the governments has tabs on every single person with anti-American feelings in the entire world!
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    43. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      Amusing.

      Your first post:

      Honestly, stealing reactor materials from the Pulstar probably wouldn't be that hard.

      Your second post (after show stopping rebuttal of your claims):

      1. I didn't say it would be easy, I said it would be possible.

    44. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by rcani · · Score: 1

      Not as amusing when you consider that the grandparent was defining hard as involving SCUBA gear and lethal weaponry. Perhaps I didn't stress it properly, I was trying to say that it would be hard, but not that hard.

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    45. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by QuantumPion · · Score: 1

      Actually no it would not really be possible to remove the fuel rods for nefarious purposes. They are so radioactive that you would die within seconds of contact with them. They require specialized equipment to handle, e.g. cranes, specialized containers that weigh tens to hundreds of tons, etc. You couldn't do this unnoticed, and the time it would take to do it would be plenty of time for the SWAT team, national guard, etc to show up.

      The worst thing that a terrorist could feasibly do would be to irradiate some other material using the reactor, and then make a dirty bomb with that material. But then again, you could just steal material from a hospital or something which would be easier. And this type of low and medium level waste isn't particularly dangerous when spread out in tiny bits.

      By the way, IAANE.

    46. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by QuantumPion · · Score: 2

      Well the Chernobyl disaster happened because of two major things: a) a poorly designed reactor that was unstable by nature and b) reactor operators that violated procedures and created an unsafe configuration. TMI happened because of two different things: a) a defective valve that other nuclear plants had problems with and knew was finicky but more importantly b) poorly trainer reactor operators that took actions which damaged the reactor core because of their lack of understanding about the plant. None of these four factors apply to university research reactors. The reactors are INHERENTLY safe, meaning that because of the way they are configured and designed, there is no possible way, either by operator intervention or equipment failure, that they could be seriously damaged. By the way, IAANE.

    47. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Why is my opinion "a bunch of crap"? I don't even see how my statements are very different or conflicting with yours, which I mostly agree with.

      You're right: the majority of Americans don't want to go into grad school for technical subjects. As I said, our culture does everything it can to dissuade kids from going into careers like this. Moreover, for those that do, they usually stop at the BS level (as I did) because it makes more financial sense to get out and earn a high salary instead of waiting for a grad degree. Foreign students are encouraged by their culture to get advanced degrees. Also, many foreign students are funded by their country of origin to go to college here because that country recognizes their need for those skills.

      It used to be that foreign students wanted to stay here in America, but that's been changing a lot. Not only are we not as welcoming as we were (which is stupid, because we make it easier for unskilled uneducated illegals from Mexico to stay here, and they don't help the economy at all), but many of them are deciding they'd rather earn $20k in India and be near their family and culture, than earn $100k and live here, plus their money goes much farther there than it does here. Can you afford full-time servants on a $100k salary in America? Hell no. But that's common for the middle class in India. With our large companies offshoring so much, it makes it easy for them to go back to their home countries and earn a huge (relative to the local cost of living) salary and enjoy their own culture rather than stay here in a culture they don't like.

    48. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by mrmeval · · Score: 1

      All the schools that had shootings had no other armed students or teachers.

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    49. Re:Jesus Christ in a Chicken Basket by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

      I don't know about PULSTAR, but the now decommissioned Ward Reactor at Cornell had a thermal output of something like 200-250 kW. (On the order of an average car engine's power output.)

      I believe that even at full tilt, it was not able to boil the water of the pool it was sitting in - I'm fairly certain that it was using passive convective cooling.

      Unlike power reactors, many of these reactors exist solely for the purpose of studying nuclear reactions and generating radiation (For example, one of the main uses of the Ward reactor was to generate a neutron flux that could be used for imaging purposes.) Because of this lack of a need to generate power, they are not pressurized and don't have any component in the system where water is at boiling temperatures. They sit in a pool of water that is room temperature and do not even have a pressure vessel. You could stand at the top of the Ward reactor's pool and look down into the core, which glowed a pretty blue thanks to Cerenkov radiation. (Similar to that picture of PULSTAR, which was probably taken with a normal camera by someone standing above the pool.)

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  11. positron rifle from Evangelion? by j1m+5n0w · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of the positron rifle from the 6th episode of Evangelion.

    1. Re:positron rifle from Evangelion? by Hanners1979 · · Score: 1

      Heh, I was about to ask whether they had to use the whole of Japan's electricity supply to fire it.

  12. I for one . . . by cashman73 · · Score: 3, Funny
    I for one welcome our new Tarheel Overlords! :-)

    In seemingly unrelated news, Duke University ceases to exist, somehow evaporated by a wave of unknown positron emission energy. But little seem to care, since Duke sucks anyways!

    1. Re:I for one . . . by newgalactic · · Score: 1

      That's stinking funny.

    2. Re:I for one . . . by newgalactic · · Score: 2, Informative

      btw - NC State is the Wolfpack, not Tarheel's (UNC). But they also hate Duke, so your headline still works.

    3. Re:I for one . . . by PseudononymousCoward · · Score: 1

      But we hate UNC more...

    4. Re:I for one . . . by plate_o_shrimp · · Score: 1

      >I for one welcome our new Tarheel Overlords! :-)

      As an NCSU alum, I take umbrage at your comment! UNC (the Tarheels) have nothing over the NC State Wolfpack! ;-)

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    5. Re:I for one . . . by gregoryb · · Score: 5, Informative

      Tarheel? Thems fightin' words, son! It's WOLFPACK...

    6. Re:I for one . . . by qw0ntum · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      As a Tarheel, allow me to say:

      "Duke is our evil twin; State is our retarded cousin."

      (and as a geek, let me say congrats to Prof Hawari and his team)

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    7. Re:I for one . . . by Ilan+Volow · · Score: 2

      I think a more apropos headline would be:

      "Several UNC students carrying buckets of carolina blue paint have been missing since the big UNC win last night. In seemingly unrelated news, this morning NCSU campus police found several strange-looking piles of ash by the Free Expression Tunnel."

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    8. Re:I for one . . . by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Anything from North Cackalaky SUX0R5

      Go Yellow Jackets!

    9. Re:I for one . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Vegas now has NCSU as an early favorite to win their 3rd NCAA basketball title.

    10. Re:I for one . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      As an NCSU alum, I take umbrage at your comment! UNC (the Tarheels) have nothing over the NC State Wolfpack! ;-)

       
      Except hot women. You know it's true.

  13. Don't cross the beams! by Derling+Whirvish · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So if you shot a powerful positron beam at something and also shot a powerful electron beam at it also, would you have a continuous antimatter explosion at the crossover point?

    1. Re:Don't cross the beams! by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 4, Informative

      So if you shot a powerful positron beam at something and also shot a powerful electron beam at it also, would you have a continuous antimatter explosion at the crossover point?

      Kinda. It's more like a gamma-ray (and neutrino) light source. The electron-positron annihilation releases a tad over a MeV mainly as two photons that fly off in opposite directions - plus a neutrino, so the photons are somewhat under half the energy each.

      Think of it as an x-ray tube - without the vacuum tube - but with the power supply, instead of being in the kilovolt range, cranked up to whatever the beam voltage is plus an extra half-million volts or so.

      Also, if you have a target you don't really need the electron beam. Just ground it well enough that it doesn't accumulate enough positive voltage to deflect the positron beam to somewhere else.

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    2. Re:Don't cross the beams! by B3ryllium · · Score: 1

      But with an electron beam ... you could potentially create a floating point of light?

      As in, a single pixel (individual photons ... crikey, that would be way less than a pixel :)), which could evolve to be a multipixel hologramatic display? :)

    3. Re:Don't cross the beams! by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But with an electron beam ... you could potentially create a floating point of light?

      Naw. It would have to hit something to glow. And it wouldn't be much of a beam with an acceleration voltage in the single-digit volts needed to produce visible light when the electrons slam into something.

      As for trying to make a middle-of-the-air display by intersecting electron and positron beams: While half-MeV gamma-ray photons count as "light" they don't count as "visible light" (unless the light is really bright and an unfocused, all-over-the-retina, dying-cell sensation counts as "visible"). They're more than 100,000 times as "ultra" as "ultra-violet".

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    4. Re:Don't cross the beams! by Kreigaffe · · Score: 1

      So essentially what you're saying is we have some sort of totally awesome death ray here.. why don't they include important things like this in the summary!

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    5. Re:Don't cross the beams! by BitterOak · · Score: 1

      Kinda. It's more like a gamma-ray (and neutrino) light source. The electron-positron annihilation releases a tad over a MeV mainly as two photons that fly off in opposite directions - plus a neutrino, so the photons are somewhat under half the energy each.

      I was unaware that an e+e- interaction could produce a single neutrino along with two gammas. Can you explain how that doesn't violate lepton number conservation? Also, I was under the impression that e+e- is an electromagnetic, not a weak interaction. How is it that neutrinos are involved?

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    6. Re:Don't cross the beams! by jabernathy · · Score: 1

      Check out the ILC [www.http://www.linearcollider.org/cms/] ... it's a particle accelerator with positron / electron sources.

  14. Use it on drug resistant bacteria by cryfreedomlove · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'd like my doctor to have one of these new fangled ray gun thingies just in case I become infected with some of that super duper bacteria I keep hearing about.

  15. Dr. Noonien Soong... by HeronBlademaster · · Score: 1

    Isn't Data's neural network positronic?

    I call first in line to meet Lor!

    1. Re:Dr. Noonien Soong... by AJWM · · Score: 1

      Isn't Data's neural network positronic?

      Yes, blatantly ripped off (like much of Star Trek) from classic science fiction, in this case Asimov's Robot stories of the 1950s. (His robots had "positronic brains" mostly because it sounded cooler than "electronic" (by his own admission), although he later threw in some buzzwords to justify it.)

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  16. How is the beam manipulated? by master_p · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How is the beam manipulated? doesn't it cause an explosion if it touches normal particles? can it be used as a weapon? as fuel? how is the beam created?

    1. Re:How is the beam manipulated? by ruinevil · · Score: 0

      Well... since positrons have charges... I guess magnets would allow manipulation. Also positron pretty have negligible mass. so when they meet up with an electron and make a photon, the photon will have negligible energy... far too little to probably used as a weapon even in a continuous beam. Anyways air has electrons too, so it probably won't good range outside of a vacuum. And it probably uses far more energy to make a positron beam than you get from one... so it won't be useful as a fuel.

    2. Re:How is the beam manipulated? by kebes · · Score: 1

      How is the beam manipulated?
      The beam is manipulated just like an electron beam: using "magnetic optics." Since an electron has a (negative) charge, you can deflect or accelerate it using electric or magnetic fields. Magnetic coils are used in electron microscopes to focus electrons onto the sample, and then to focus the transmitted electrons onto an imagine plate (very analogous to how a light microscope works).

      Similarly, to manipulate positrons, which have a positive charge, you can use the exact same principles.

      doesn't it cause an explosion if it touches normal particles? can it be used as a weapon?
      Most experiments involving positrons do in fact rely upon the fact that the positrons will annihilate with any electrons they encounter (releasing an easy-to-detect gamma-ray flash). So positrons make for excellent probes of electron density, for instance. Positron beams used for science would be weak enough that their interaction wouldn't really lead to explosions: just a measurable amount of gamma-ray production. (By the way, positron-annihilation is used in medical PET scanners, where the low-level gamma ray bursts are used to determine where the tracer chemical went in the body.) A sufficiently intense positron beam would be highly destructive. However as weapons go it doesn't make much sense: the energy input required to generate a positron beam is so large that you would be better off putting that same amount of energy to more direct use.

      as fuel? how is the beam created?
      In principle one could generate a positron beam from a particle accelerator. The work described in the article is creating a beam from a small-scale nuclear reactor. Again the creation of positrons is so energy-intensive that it would be somewhat counter-productive to use it as a fuel (rather than just using the energy or nuclear material more directly as a fuel source).

    3. Re:How is the beam manipulated? by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2, Informative

      How is the beam manipulated?

      Like an electron beam - with electric and/or magnetic fields. (But because the particles are positive you have to use the reverse of the fields you'd use on electrons.)

      doesn't it cause an explosion if it touches normal particles?

      It causes a spot of gamma-ray (and neutrino) "light" emission. Kinda like an x-ray tube with a half-million volts between the electrodes (minus the vacuum bottle).

      can it be used as a weapon?

      If you have a BIG truck to carry the swimming-pool reactor around. B-)

      as fuel?

      No. You'd need to trap the antimatter to use it later - and to trap any significant amount you'd have to make anti-matter neucei to counter (most of) the anti-electrons' mutual repulsion. Otherwise you'd be spending far more power holding it in than it would ever produce. That means making at LEAST anti-protons, a much more ambitious task (over 1,800 times as hard if you're just counting energy per particle).

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    4. Re:How is the beam manipulated? by pclminion · · Score: 1

      How is the beam manipulated? doesn't it cause an explosion if it touches normal particles?

      The energy of any such explosion would have to COME FROM somewhere. You aren't getting out any more than you put in. If you're causing megaton-sized explosions, that means you're using megaton-sized energy to create the positron beam. This is nowhere near that.

    5. Re:How is the beam manipulated? by LinearBob · · Score: 5, Informative

      The Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, or SLAC, generates and accelerates electron and positron beams (and when needed, polarized or spin oriented beams) for colliding beam and fixed target experiments. SLAC has literally hundreds of dipole, quadrapole, and sextupole electromagnets placed along their accelerator, beam lines, and storage rings, all for focusing and directing their charged particle beams. If the center of mass of colliding electron and positron beams is high enough (at a collision energy called a "resonance") new particles will be created from the combined beam energies. During the 1990's, SLAC accelerated electrons and positrons to approximately 49 Giga Electron Volts (or GeV) each with their accelerator. After the two beams drifted in evacuated beam lines away from the accelerator, they were directed such that the electron beam and the positron beam approached an interaction point in the center of a large particle detector called SLD, from opposite sides. In the detector, the two beams would collide, creating new chargeless particles called Z-Zero or Z-Naught particles, with a collision energy of about 95.5 GeV. The Z-Zero, before it decays, is about one half as heavy as a silver atom, but quickly decays into a lot of smaller fragments, some charged and others not charged. The mass of that Z-Zero particle represents the direct conversion of the accelerator's energy into matter.

      http://www2.slac.stanford.edu/vvc/detectors/sld.html

      In the diagram shown in the link above, look for the e- and e+ labels. Those represent the electron (e-) and positron (e+) beams entering the SLD detector from opposite sides. In the center of the SLD detector is a small cylindrical piece called a Vertex Detector. The center of the vertex detector (a silicon CCD device about the size of a soft drink can with several million pixels in three concentric layers) is where SLAC's electrons actually collided with positrons. The parts of the detector around the Vertex detector are like the layers of an onion. Each layer gathers a different kind of data about the collisions that took place inside the vertex detector at the interaction point. There are a lot of very sophisticated electronics in the layers of all particle detectors, but all of the electronics have one purpose, to gather information about the decay fragments coming from the electron/positron collisions so the events that took place during and immediately after the collision can be reconstructed and analyzed with very sophisticated computers.

      Beginning in 1998, SLAC began an experiment called the asymmetric B-meson factory, or "B Factory" for short. In the B Factory, the electron beams run at a little over 9 GeV beam energy, while the positron beams run at only about 3 GeV. Both colliding beams run at very high currents, on the order of two amperes in the electron storage ring, and three amperes in the positron storage ring. The collision of these two high current beams produces millions of B mesons, each with a residual momentum (due to the asymmetric beam energies) that makes it possible for the particle physicists to study more effectively how those B mesons decayed.

      Here is a link to more information about "Storage Rings" and their electromagnets:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storage_ring

      And here are links to three of SLAC's web pages, where you can learn more about colliding beam physics. BaBar is name of the particle detector used to study their decaying B Mesons, and PEP-II is the storage ring collider used to make those B Mesons.

      The PEP-II storage ring collider is at: http://www.slac.stanford.edu/grp/ad/ADPEPII/ADPEPII.html

      The BaBar detector is at: http://www-public.slac.stanford.edu/babar/

      And SLAC's main web page (the first web page in t

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    6. Re:How is the beam manipulated? by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2
      The Stanford Linear Accelerator Center, or SLAC, generates and accelerates ...

      Brilliant and informative post (used up all my mod points yesterday -- bugger!)

      One observation however deserves expansion, I believe. The object ...The center of the vertex detector (a silicon CCD device about the size of a soft drink can reminds me of how the original cloud chamber reaction detector was inspired by a glass of beer, or rather the cavitation of bubbles within the glass of beer (not that beer can't be inspring on it's own, of course). This discovery was loosely dramatised in a movie by Yahoo Serious by a depiction of young Einstein splitting the beer atom in the chook shed out back. Thus I'm certain the vertex chamber described above must be the size of a beer can, not a soft drink can, in honour of the late esteemed Mme.Curie's boyfriend and co-inventor of Rock & Roll, as fine a Tasmanian as you will ever meet (disclaimer -- both of my children are Tasmanian, so I may be a little biased).

      You will excuse me I trust, I need to crack another tinnie (hmmm...Inspiration for another metric -- the PicoTinnie, amount of energy absorbed by one of these collectors).

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    7. Re:How is the beam manipulated? by LinearBob · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Thank you for your kind remarks.

      I used to work at SLAC, and I got to know something about how the whole machine worked and what we (as a member of the team who made it work) were doing. You are 100% correct about beer and bubble chambers. At one time SLAC had a huge bubble chamber filled with liquid hydrogen (as I recall, I could be wrong). They also had a huge cloud chamber, and even a very large spark chamber, and giant solenoid magnets around those chambers, to make charged particles leave curved tracks. Back then, they photographed each pulse of the accelerator as seen in the bubble chamber, the cloud chamber, or the spark chamber (something like 5 to 10 pulses per second) on black and white movie film. They then had teams of people studying those films, frame by frame, looking for "interesting events". I'm sure the folks doing this visual analysis rapidly developed eye strain. I'm also sure the development of the particle detector (as represented by SLD) was a great improvement, both because the experimental machinery could run faster, and because computers could do the data analysis much faster and more accurately than people.

      Although I am no longer working for SLAC, I always thought SLAC was a great place to work. There was so much history there that I could see and touch, and I sometimes got to talk with the people who were there when exciting discoveries were made. SLAC was where quarks were first observed in the form of three small (but hard) pits in the middle of a large squishy thing called a proton. They made this discovery by studying the scattering of some high speed electrons shot into a tank of liquid hydrogen. They then shot the same high speed electron beam into a tank of liquid deuterium. Deuterium has one proton and one neutron in its nucleus. To derive what the neutron looked like, they subtracted out what the scattering effect was from liquid hydrogen (which has only a proton in it's nucleus) and from that concluded that neutrons also were large squishy things with three hard pits in the middle, just like protons.

      SLAC and the team that performed this high speed electron scattering experiment won a Nobel Prize for their work.

      SLAC is also where the quark theory was tested in one of the first storage rings called SPEAR, earning SLAC another Nobel Prize. The Tau particle was found there, too, although the tau had been recorded but not recognized in other places. The discovery of the tau earned SLAC their third Nobel Prize.

      While I worked there, my email and newsgroup signature line was, "Nobel Prizes R Us!"

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    8. Re:How is the beam manipulated? by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1
      Superb insight. I never got closer to it than driving above it on (think it was) Highway 280, but even that was a thrill knowing it was that close. Mostly I used to work over at that air field on the other side of the hill, writing code for a very slow network, and that took a lot of my time. Sad that I never got to see the innards of that big pipe.

      Whups, my Ubuntu download just finished, bye...

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  17. Pure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Pure anti-proton. Absolutely pure!"

    --Commodore Decker

    1. Re:Pure by stox · · Score: 1

      You gotta go to Fermilab for the world's most powerful anti-proton beam.

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  18. Antimatter electron? by nebaz · · Score: 1

    I thought in order to actually have "anti-matter" you needed whole anti-atoms. I think the proper term is simply anti-electrons. (Could be wrong in my pedanticism)

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    1. Re:Antimatter electron? by clarkcox3 · · Score: 1

      Electrons are matter, so why wouldn't anti-electrons/positrons be anti-matter?

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    2. Re:Antimatter electron? by BlueParrot · · Score: 1

      I thought in order to actually have "anti-matter" you needed whole anti-atoms. I think the proper term is simply anti-electrons. (Could be wrong in my pedanticism)


      I seriously doubt most physicists would give a crap as long as you are consistent and it is clear what you mean. Kinda like nobody beyond high school really cares if you say that a proton is "heavier" than an electron when it is technically more accurate to say it is more massive. There's an XKCD which illustrates this kinda thing rather well: http://www.xkcd.com/123/

      Please note that this may not apply when it comes to more important questions that may arise in the cafeteria... THE MILK GOES FIRST! *brings out the pitchfork*
    3. Re:Antimatter electron? by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 2, Funny
      Sigh... such a lack of precision today. Nothing anti-matters anymore.

      Yes, positrons are considered anti-matter. But you can call it what you want in your own Jeffries tubes.

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    4. Re:Antimatter electron? by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      If it makes you feel better, I was a bit surprised when I read that, too. I had never heard the term "antimatter electron", only positron or anti-electron.

  19. She can't take much more of this! by HaeMaker · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've seen Scotty create beams of antimatter with two phasers and a tricorder, big whoop.

    1. Re:She can't take much more of this! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pffft. MacGyver can make beams of antimatter with refrigerator magnets and chewing gum wrapper.

  20. In other news... by RegTooLate · · Score: 0, Redundant

    NC State is using the frickin huge antimatter electron beam to create huge frickin sharks to which they will attach aforementioned frickin lazer beam.

  21. Long Lost Brother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Professor Hawari
    The last know, and by far the most sucessful, member of the Fuckarwe tribe.
  22. Possible Applications? by isane · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Can we get one on a shark's head? Is that too much to ask? Can someone throw a dog a 'friggin bone?

  23. uh o by moogied · · Score: 3, Funny

    The reactor is a huge recruiting tool," Hawari said. "After they get exposure to the reactor and the facilities online at their own universities, many of them become excited" My god.. there making mutants.
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    1. Re:uh o by Kreigaffe · · Score: 1

      you really deserve to be modded up for that.

      good catch.

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    2. Re:uh o by v1 · · Score: 1

      I just narrowly dodged a "redundant" mod for catching your post after RTFA. "exposure" is not generally considered a positve outcome with respect to nuclear reactors...

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    3. Re:uh o by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Missed opportunity for a Fallout reference.

  24. This just in... by FlyingSquidStudios · · Score: 1

    The president of NC State has just announced the construction of the new FORTRESS OF DOOM Hall which will house both the Physics Department and the Department of Uralic-Altaic Languages.

  25. I have a radical idea... by PixelScuba · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...We'll cross the streams.

    1. Re:I have a radical idea... by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...We'll cross the streams. No, don't. The pee goes everywhere.
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    2. Re:I have a radical idea... by dwater · · Score: 1

      No, don't. The pee goes everywhere. *Except* in the urinal!
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  26. -sigh- by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 1

    Insert joke here about Dirty Hawari with the Most Powerful Postitron Beam in the world, and can blow a grad student's head clean off...

    I know there's a good joke here, but it's not coming to me. -sigh- Some days you have it, some days you don't. :)

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  27. I'm not impressed by gordgekko · · Score: 3, Funny

    I won't be impressed until scientists are able to create an inverted tachyon pulse that solves any problems caused by spatial anomalies.

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  28. Priorities by Ilan+Volow · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    As a NCSU alum (class of 2005), I'm impressed that they've got the earth's largest antimatter beam, but I think but I'd be even more impressed if they finally got the majority of professors to put their class syllabus online.

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    1. Re:Priorities by Kreigaffe · · Score: 1

      You see, WITH the antimatter beam, they now have a ray of death with which to threatened said teachers. put the syllabus online or we'll strip every electron from your body in a glorious explosion of photons, gamma rays and neutrinos!

      and kudos to them, we need more supervillians in this world.

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  29. Useless without... by clarkcox3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OK, this article is useless without some mention of how powerful this beam is. They say that the reactor itself puts out 5MW, but nothing of the beam itself.

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    1. Re:Useless without... by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      The "beam" was probably about 5 or 6 positrons in a row... well, you don't want them to blow up the world, do you?

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    2. Re:Useless without... by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

      OK, this article is useless without some mention of how powerful this beam is. They say that the reactor itself puts out 5MW, but nothing of the beam itself. The two most important questions: what do you shoot with it and how pretty is the 'splosion? Oh, third question: does it work on Angels?
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  30. Misread by Boglin · · Score: 1

    I guess that I'm now officially paranoid. I misread the title as "NC State Police Create Most Powerful Positron Beam Ever". I then started to imagine the inevitable YouTube videos.

    1. Re:Misread by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Student: "Don't taze me, bro."

      Police: "All right, charge up the positron beam...."

      Student: "Don't annihilate me, bro!"

    2. Re:Misread by Anonymous+Meoward · · Score: 1

      I guess that I'm now officially paranoid. I misread the title as "NC State Police Create Most Powerful Positron Beam Ever"

      So that's where all the fines from my speeding tickets have been going.

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  31. most newsmen by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    Approximately? Who the heck couldn't count to 25?

    Most newsmen (judging by their use of the term "many" in place of actual integers - even very small ones - in most of their stories.

    Either that or they think their audience can't understand numbers greater than three or so.

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    1. Re:most newsmen by zifferent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Approximately? Who the heck couldn't count to 25?

      Most newsmen (judging by their use of the term "many" in place of actual integers - even very small ones - in most of their stories.

      Either that or they think their audience can't understand numbers greater than three or so.

      Really! In "most" of their stories they use the term "many" in place of apparently uncounted small numbers. Wonders never cease.
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    2. Re:most newsmen by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      Really! In "most" of their stories they use the term "many" in place of apparently uncounted small numbers. Wonders never cease.

      He he.

      I'd say "touche". But I haven't done a survey so don't have actual numbers, and thus consider using such non-numbers appropriate. Newsies, on the other hand, will use "many" when the actual numbers are easily obtained (often from the press releases they're rewriting.)

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  32. Good News, Everyone! by gertam · · Score: 1

    I've created an intense anti-matter beam so powerful that it could evaporate half of New New York if it was accidentally activated. So just remember not to press this big red button!

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    1. Re:Good News, Everyone! by gardyloo · · Score: 1

      I've created an intense anti-matter beam so powerful that it could evaporate half of New New York if it was accidentally activated. So just remember not to press this big red button! Peter North? Is that you?
  33. Getting excited... by cmeans · · Score: 1

    "After they get exposure to the reactor and the facilities online at their own universities, many of them become excited about the possibility of coming to NC State for hands-on experience."

    Maybe the exposure to the reactor, is just causing their atoms to excite.

  34. Re:Obligatry-try again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Best. Beam. Ever.

  35. Man by markov_chain · · Score: 1

    My university is not cool enough to have a real reactor. All they got is these steam tunnels and a bunch of blue-glowing water!

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  36. Has to be said... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just imagine a beowulf cluster of those!

  37. Talsh Yar by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    "'The idea here is that if we create this intense beam of antimatter electrons the complete opposite of the electron, basically we can then use them in investigating and understanding the new types of materials being used in many applications.'"

    They'd also be able to detect cloaked Romulan vessels!

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  38. Translation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "'The idea here is that if we create this intense beam of antimatter electrons...we can then use them in investigating and understanding the new types of materials being used in many applications.'"

    Translation:
    "So. what should we blow up today, boys???"

  39. I'm gonna get me a positron rifle by sentientbrendan · · Score: 1

    for hunting

  40. Or you could use it to power a Starship by sproketboy · · Score: 1

    You insensitive clod!

  41. Not Quite by el_munkie · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I took a class that involved going to the University of Texas' learning reactor. To get in the front door, one had to get buzzed in by someone behind a desk. To get to the controls or the reactor, one had to get past several security measures and some very solid metal doors. The first time the prof took us back there, he warned us that the door could only be open for 3 minutes. I asked him what happened if that time was exceeded, and he said that a SWAT team would be there within five.

  42. There is no "explosion" by einhverfr · · Score: 1

    I certainly wouldnt want to be anywhere near a large positron beam hitting electrons. They don't explode... Instead you get a number of things happening:

    1) Positron + electron = 2 gamma rays/
    2) A missing electron (meaning free radical, and/or an electrical current).

    So basically, a positron destroys an electron and creates two ionizing photons.

    So think of this less as an explosion and more as a giant light-bulb spewing gamma rays. Cool, but you want to be somewhere else.

    Note that the current ideas for positronic rocket engines involve ablating material via the gamma rays.

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  43. Zap the Crackheads on Hillsborough St. by gelfling · · Score: 1

    Finally something we can use to clear the streets around the Belltower. No man I DON'T SMOKE and I DON'T have any SPARE change.

  44. We got to get these two together! by celtic_hackr · · Score: 1

    You gotta go to Fermilab for the world's most powerful anti-proton beam.


    NWU Grad student: We got to get these two together!

    Prof. Hawari: I think that would be extremely dangerous.

    [enter stage left: Bill Murray]
    [exit stage outta here: Snaggle Puss]
  45. Cross the streams? by pugugly · · Score: 1

    Wusses - this is just what I've been needing for my planet eating Doomsday Machine.

    Well, that and Neutronium.

    Pug

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  46. hmm by thatskinnyguy · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't an anti-electron beam crossed with a particle beam create energy?

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    1. Re:hmm by Shinglor · · Score: 1

      The mass-energy is converted into light, usually releasing two photons.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron-positron_annihilation

    2. Re:hmm by mastershake_phd · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't an anti-electron beam crossed with a particle beam create energy?

      Not more than was put into it.

  47. NCSU positron protest: by greyhueofdoubt · · Score: 1
    Overheard at the NCSU anti-positron laser protest:

    Don't lase me, bro! -b
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  48. 17 New BBQ methods already patented,,, by Organic+Brain+Damage · · Score: 1

    ...by NC state researchers.

  49. useless summary and useless article by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 1

    the beam was not 'powerful' it was intense. And then they don't even state the luminosity. Next they will write the press release in crayons.

  50. article title suspicious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you saying that a positron generator that accelerates positrons to about the same energy of your CRT television creates a "more powerful" beam than the billion-dollar linear accelerators in the world that reach into the GeV range (a million times more energetic)?

  51. I Volunteer My Neighbor's Chihuahua... by littlewink · · Score: 1

    as the next target for positron emissions testing.

    I just want to find out if the little shit will still bark it's yap off at midnight while it's glowing in the dark.

  52. I wonder... by tsa · · Score: 1

    What happens if you make a CRT that uses positrons instead of electrons. Will it suck up light, instead of emitting light? That'd be so cool: instant darkness!

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    1. Re:I wonder... by argent · · Score: 1

      What happens if you make a CRT that uses positrons instead of electrons.

      It'll be REALLY bright. Just not for very long.

  53. Re:Obligatry - Point of Order by Whiteox · · Score: 1

    Whatever you do, don't cross the streams... Now that can reference Ghostbusters AND Red Dwarf (Legion Episode).
    Which do you mean?
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  54. Their performance report on-line ... by tuomas_kaikkonen · · Score: 1

    If you have 30 USD, you can read their full performance report. Without paying, even the abstract might tell you something.

  55. No more nukes by Mr.+Lwanga · · Score: 1

    I wish that they would not make any more nuclear weapons, it just makes the world even more unstable. Hopefully, President Colbert will reunify the two Carolinas and bring peace to the region.

  56. Ever? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "NC State Creates Most Powerful Positron Beam Ever" - is the "Ever" really necessary? I hate that. I think apple started it, but it causes me great pain. What is wrong with "NC State Creates Most Powerful Positron Beam" - I mean, doesn't that already kind of imply "ever".

    Sweet christ what the hell is wrong with people.

  57. Off Topic reply... by LinearBob · · Score: 1

    I am running Ubuntu right now, and I like it. If you used BitTorrent to download 7.10, you may have received a few chunks from my machine, because I downloaded Ubuntu 7.10 as soon as it came out, and I have had my machine seeding it ever since, except for the few hours it took Sunday evening for me to update my own machine from Ubuntu 7.04 to Ubuntu 7.10. I now work one block from the Blue Cube, for a start-up in the solar power field. I am an analog and RF design engineer and a computer network wrangler. You can reach me directly by email to rgetsla {at} yahoo [dot] com.

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  58. After all this time... by Siridar · · Score: 0

    ...I can't believe that nobody has tagged this article "realignthedeflector"

    1. Re:After all this time... by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 1

      Or "commenceprimaryignition"...

  59. Trying for the hat-trick. by argent · · Score: 1

    They haven't been able to synchronize the phase harmonics of the polaron emitter with the subspace transients, because they mixed up a C++ template definition in the J++/Perl# interface to the holodeck safety protocols trying to document the current TSA handbook for compatibility with NAFTA copyright laws. If only they'd written it in Lisp!

  60. What new types of materials? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    'The idea here is that if we create this intense beam of antimatter electrons -- the complete opposite of the electron, basically -- we can then use them in investigating and understanding the new types of materials being used in many applications.'

    What new materials? Beings used in which "many applications"? Does this sentence strike anyone else as odd besides me? If "new types" of materials are already used, aren't they already understood and manufactured etc.?

  61. What's the emission spectrum? by argent · · Score: 1

    "After they get exposure to the reactor and the facilities online at their own universities, many of them become excited"

    What's the emission spectrum of an excited undergrad? Are they bosons or leptons? Can you maintain a population of excited candidates and trigger coherent emissions? My god, think of the possibilities. What should we call it? Grant Amplification by Stimulated Publication of ... damn it, we need a catchy acronym...

  62. Ultra-violent radiation. by argent · · Score: 1

    They're more than 100,000 times as "ultra" as "ultra-violet".

    FPA "ultra-violent".

    "There was me, Hawari, and my droogs, and we sat in the SLAC lunchroom trying to make up our razudoks about what to do about the evening..."

  63. Congratulations Mitch and Chris by phpWebber · · Score: 1

    P.S. Possible weapon implications? Ask Kent about mirror.

  64. Anybody notice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy's name, Ayman Hawiri, is very close to Ayman al-Zawahiri. Coincidence, I think not. Da...da.....daaaaaa....

  65. That explains it. by overlook77 · · Score: 0

    That would explain the brownout that rebooted my computer in downtown Raleigh...

  66. MOD Parent UP!! by PatSand · · Score: 1

    Give this fellow some humor and insightful points for finally showing that Microsoft Vista is a weapon of mass destruction! Maybe now we can ban it here and go back to XP...or better yet, move to LINUX/UNIX...

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  67. Cool! A Minnie Driver/Anne Hathaway love scene. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    > "The idea here is that if we create this intense beam of antimatter electrons -- the
    > complete opposite of the electron, basically -- we can then use them in investigating
    > and understanding the new types of materials being used in many applications."

    The Professor continues, "And watch the screen here. That's a student standing talking with his friends completely on the other side of campus. In a second you'll see him jump as his ass starts burning."

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  68. Obligatory Triangle Park sports metaphor by Eternal+Vigilance · · Score: 1

    "We're no. -1! We're no. -1!"

  69. Sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can use it to make an anti-television

  70. JUST YOU ALL WAIT! by Techx9 · · Score: 1

    you all remember that scene from hl2:ep2? with the giant vortex and gaping portal in the sky linking our world to a parallel dimension full of vermicious knids just waiting to eat our brains? yea well that's going to happen, it's just a matter of time with all of this advanced research being done..

  71. add some dilithium crystals by peter303 · · Score: 1

    And we got warp drive!