Slashdot Mirror


Weird Science Offered As University Class

ludwigvan968 writes "The ACTLab at the University of Texas at Austin is making waves with its Weird Science class. The link is to the TA's blog with documentation of some of the projects: a laser harp, a 3D environment constructed with fog and an LCD projector, and a 'water bridge' using a 50,000-volt transformer. Next semester, they're introducing a new class called 'Disruptive Technologies.'"

109 of 137 comments (clear)

  1. What about the girl by CaptainPatent · · Score: 4, Funny

    This is not a complete class... I read nothing about animating an uber-hot girlfriend!

    --
    Well, back to rejecting software patent applications.
    1. Re:What about the girl by explosivejared · · Score: 1, Funny

      This is a science class, not a dark arts class. There is nothing rational about women. Women and creationism are on the same grounds as far as being taught in a science classroom. :)

      --
      I got a catholic block.
    2. Re:What about the girl by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Henry Frankenstein: The brain you stole, Fritz. Think of it. The brain of a dead man waiting to live again in a body I made with my own hands!

      Garry: That's not a bad idea.
      Wyatt: What?
      Garry: Making a girl. Actually making a girl. Like Frankenstein... except cuter.
      Wyatt: You're serious?
      Garry: Look me in the eye. Do I look serious?

      Victor Moritz: You're crazy!
      Henry Frankenstein: Crazy, am I? We'll see whether I'm crazy or not.

      Wyatt: Gary Wallace, that's-that's gross! That's sick! I am not digging up dead girls!

      --
      Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
    3. Re:What about the girl by nmb3000 · · Score: 1

      Garry: Making a girl. Actually making a girl. Like Frankenstein... except cuter.

      Wait, didn't they do that movie already? I could have sworn... of course!

      Fredrick: Would you mind telling me whose brain I did put in?
      Igor: And you won't be angry?
      Fredrick: I will *not* be angry!
      Igor: Abby Someone.
      Fredrick: Abby Someone. Abby Who?
      Igor: Abby Normal.
      Fredrick: Abby Normal.
      Igor: I'm almost sure that was the name.

      There you go. I'm sure Frankenstein and Abby would be quite the couple.

      --
      "What do you despise? By this are you truly known." --Princess Irulan, Manual of Muad'Dib
      /)
    4. Re:What about the girl by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      They really wanted to, but the prerequisite was that everyone in the class had to wear sunglasses, slicked hair and a polyester suit. So that killed the idea :(

    5. Re:What about the girl by PHPfanboy · · Score: 1

      Oh the pure joy of a 10 year old hearing Kelly Le Brock say the word "wanker" and realising that adults do swear and they should STFU and stop telling kids to use foul language.

      Oh yes, Queen's English is not dead yet and Great British cusses can hold their own against the cultural imports like "MoFo", "bee-atch" and "Ho's". Small victories indeed.

      --
      29 mpg. YMMV.
  2. I want a mythbusters class as well by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 4, Funny

    I want a mythbusters class as well

    1. Re:I want a mythbusters class as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Yeah, can't wait to hear someone ask about god in it.

    2. Re:I want a mythbusters class as well by neapolitan · · Score: 1

      With Kari Byron as the teaching fellow.

      Seriously, you would spontaneously explode.

      --
      Slashdotter, ID #101. UIDs are in binary, right?
    3. Re:I want a mythbusters class as well by KrayzieKyd · · Score: 1

      TASER - Thomas A Swift Electric Rifle NOT TAZER

    4. Re:I want a mythbusters class as well by Lane.exe · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not to cramp the style of your joke, but they do have that class. It's Physics 471 -- Pseudoscience and the Paranormal. One of my favorite classes at UT.

      --
      IAALS.
    5. Re:I want a mythbusters class as well by domatic · · Score: 1

      That sound's more like Penn and Teller's class than Jaime and Adam's. For all the flaws with what they do on MythBusters, things aren't being dismissed out of hand. They spend real money, time, and effort to at least attempt demonstrating the workings of myth. Organized skepticism seems to be more about berating dumbasses who should know better. That can be entertaining but if someone is stupid enough to believe John Edwards can make a long distance phone call to his relative in heaven then a stern talking to from James Randi isn't going to fix his problem. I'm not saying the things they take apart in your class aren't total horsehockey; I just question the ability to install BS detectors in people that lack them after the fact.

    6. Re:I want a mythbusters class as well by Blue_Bawls · · Score: 1

      I second the motion! Mythbusters of the World Unite!

  3. Disruptive? by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Funny

    Next semester, they're introducing a new class called 'Disruptive Technologies.'" Would that be like a Tazer/Stun Gun?
    --
    Deleted
    1. Re:Disruptive? by beavioso · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think the class requires students to use cell phones with "catchy" ringtones.

    2. Re:Disruptive? by Cjstone · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or a breadboard with flashing LEDs attached to a sweatshirt.

    3. Re:Disruptive? by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      No, that would be the EMI/RFI emissions from the water bridge. That's probably where they got the idea. :-)

      --

      Check out my sci-fi/humor trilogy at PatriotsBooks.

    4. Re:Disruptive? by joaommp · · Score: 1

      To test them, they're going to ask a student to pretend to be doing something that is really not anything special but that any over zealous paranoid security officer would love to think it is a security threat.

    5. Re:Disruptive? by MonkWB · · Score: 1

      Actually they are going over the various incarnations of windows.

    6. Re:Disruptive? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      No, that would be *Disruptor* Technologies.

      Chris Mattern

    7. Re:Disruptive? by TheThiefMaster · · Score: 1

      I made a simple "tazer" at school.

      It goes something like this:
      9V battery
      Relay (naturally-on or 2-way variety)
      Button
      Couple of wires.
      Wired like this: Battery->Button->relay coil->relay switch->battery

      The dangerous points are the connections either side of the coil on the relay.

      Because it's a naturally-on switch, that will be a circuit. It will power the relay's coil, causing it to flip the switch, breaking the circuit. The coil is now charged, but can't discharge because the circuit is broken. If something ELSE is connected across the coil (eg a couple of spikes stuck in a person (or at least a volunteer holding wires)) it'll discharge through them instead, giving them a small shock (up to 200V, according to tests, but so few amps and so short that it's not as dangerous as the number suggests). With the coil discharged, the relay switch snaps back shut and repeats the process. Quite a few times a second.

      Essentially, this design uses one easy-to-get-hold-of component as a DC-AC converter (if a crude one) AND a voltage amplifier (essentially it's an inductor).

      Warning, don't connect it to a 12V school science lab power-supply. Then it really is dangerous.

  4. The next logical step... by billius · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mad Science. Seriously, I'm dying for some funding on my research dealing with the re-animation of human flesh.

    1. Re:The next logical step... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      First the mad scientist, then the mad grad student, WHERE DOES IT END!

    2. Re:The next logical step... by morari · · Score: 1

      West, is that you? I thought the lieutenant had killed you! Remarkable. We should get together sometime soon, I have unfettered access to Miksatonic's medical facilities nowadays...

      --
      "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." --Paul Atreides, Dune
    3. Re:The next logical step... by jamstar7 · · Score: 1

      I just love mad science, particularly when taught by Mr Medulla. Just don't confuse your rays with your beams...

      --
      Understanding the scope of the problem is the first step on the path to true panic.
    4. Re:The next logical step... by darkhitman · · Score: 1

      Have you beaten brain death yet? The 6-12 minute barrier? If not, no funding for you!

      --
      Tell me something...it's still "We, the people"... right?
    5. Re:The next logical step... by abes · · Score: 1

      All that ever leads to is bad cat-puppets attacking you.

    6. Re:The next logical step... by MadUndergrad · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't be that hard to figure out.

    7. Re:The next logical step... by vegiVamp · · Score: 2, Funny
      --
      What a depressingly stupid machine.
    8. Re:The next logical step... by riffzifnab · · Score: 1

      Oh yeah, because we really want to encourage that meme

  5. Great by LostInTransportation · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now we're all stuck with thoughts of gym class taught by Kelly Brock.

    1. Re:Great by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      I was thinking more along the lines of sex ed taught by Kelly Brock myself... ;)

    2. Re:Great by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You were thinking of a sex ed taught by a 47 year old mother of 3?

    3. Re:Great by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 1

      The 47 year old mother of 3 probably know a lot more about the subject than the 25 year old Kelly LeBrock from Weird Science.

  6. Cool Stuff by j_kenpo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I remember when I was working for a production company, a buddy of mine would always do stuff like this. We made a smoke cannon similar to the one shown there using an old PA speaker, some plastic cones, and a fog machine. The PA speaker pushed the fog through the cones making the smoke rings. We were going to build a large one, but never did. We also talked about doing something similar to the LCD/smoke projector with a large DLP projector when they first came out to experiment on replacing the aging atmospheric effect laser projectors. Of course, it still wasn't as impressive as a 10 watt white light laser with a color changing crystal. But its cool to see people out there playing with some of this kind of stuff. The water bridge was friggin cool.

  7. Heard in class by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 4, Funny

    "We'll be having a lab session today, so get a bra from the cabinet by the door and make sure it is securely fastened over your head before going to your lab station"

    1. Re:Heard in class by bladesjester · · Score: 1

      And don't forget to hook up the doll!

      We are sick and tired of having to replace the floor every time one of you little fools creates an ICBM instead of a woman!

      --
      Everything I need to know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains.
  8. Obligatory --and how! by rts008 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I welcome our new Kelly LeBrock Overlords!
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090305/

    Truly one of Canada's great contributions to the rest of the world. Kelly ROCKS!!!

    --
    Down With Slashdot BETA!!! I've been around the corner and seen the oliphant; you can only abuse me from your perspecti
    1. Re:Obligatory --and how! by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, Kelly LeBrock rocks YOU!!!!

      Or was that my dreams? Sorry...

    2. Re:Obligatory --and how! by g1zmo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Huh?

      FTFIMDB:

      Mini Biography: Kelly LeBrock was born in New York and reared in London. She is the daughter...
      --
      I have found there are just two ways to go.
      It all comes down to livin' fast or dyin' slow.
      -REK, Jr.
    3. Re:Obligatory --and how! by El+Yanqui · · Score: 3, Funny

      I only recently moved to London. Sadly, I missed the opportunity to rear Ms. LeBrock.

      --
      Well, thanks to the Internet, I'm now bored with sex.
  9. Women are a Dark Art? by Skevin · · Score: 1

    No wonder everyone who seems to know anything about "Defense Against the Dark Arts" are all uber-geeks!

    Solomon

    --
    "Twice half-assed makes an ass whole." --Solomon K. Chang
    1. Re:Women are a Dark Art? by Adambomb · · Score: 1

      Uber geeks dont miss "Weird Science" references though, lets see a wand waver pull an ICBM out of the floorboards!

      --
      Ice Cream has no bones.
    2. Re:Women are a Dark Art? by bladesjester · · Score: 2, Funny

      That only happens if you forget to hook the doll up.

      --
      Everything I need to know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains.
  10. Fine by second+class+skygod · · Score: 2, Funny

    But for god's sake, I hope they don't forget the doll!

  11. former actlabbie here by CharlesV · · Score: 3, Informative

    You end up making so much awesome stuff you never knew you had in you in these programs. definitely made my college experience worthwhile. some of mine:

    http://home.actlab.utexas.edu/~charlesv/

    1. Re:former actlabbie here by Fizzl · · Score: 1

      Interesting, but the color scheme gave me an aneurysm. Was that supposed to be part of the experience?

  12. Laser harp? by davidsyes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Talk about cutting edge music. Hopefully it's not "ear-splitting" music...

    Truly disruptive technology might be an "intestinal auger" with rheostat. Somehow, I suppose the FDA won't allow that piece of equipment to be added to the body...

    --
    Previously: "Linux... Toward the Sunrise..." Now: "Linux... Toward the-- No, now, part of Every Sunrise"
    1. Re:Laser harp? by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 2, Funny

      WARNING: Do not play harp with remaining fingers.

      --
      This is the sig that says NI (again)
  13. Skip the dining hall by dr_dank · · Score: 1

    You might want to stay away from the dining hall on the day this class meets. Greasy pork sandwiches served in dirty ashtrays get tired after a while.

    --
    Where does the school board find them and why do they keep sending them to ME?
  14. Anthony Michael Hall by techstar25 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Unless it's taught by Anthony Michael Hall, you can forget about it.

    1. Re:Anthony Michael Hall by Spudtrooper · · Score: 1

      Nope, but you can take English with Wyatt at Angelo State University in San Angelo, TX...

    2. Re:Anthony Michael Hall by bladesjester · · Score: 1

      Unless it's taught by Anthony Michael Hall, you can forget about it.

      The problem with that is that he'll know your grade before you even take the class.

      --
      Everything I need to know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains.
  15. And I want a Real Genius class by plover · · Score: 3, Informative
    As long as we're going along with the '80s "edu-movie" theme, I always liked Real Genius. Iced stairwells, auditorium beach parties, disassembled-and-reassembled-in-the-dorm-room vehicles (oh, wait, I already did that one) and Big Fscking Lasers.

    And popcorn. LOTS of popcorn!

    --
    John
    1. Re:And I want a Real Genius class by bladesjester · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the cute girl down the hall who never sleeps and rushes into the bathroom to show you the sweater that she made you =]

      --
      Everything I need to know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains.
    2. Re:And I want a Real Genius class by EvanED · · Score: 1

      And Lazlo, and his underground lair.

    3. Re:And I want a Real Genius class by bladesjester · · Score: 1

      And don't forget cutting slices of liquid nitrogen to use as quarters for the coffee machine.

      (You'd be amazed how long it takes some people to catch that one)

      --
      Everything I need to know I learned by killing smart people and eating their brains.
    4. Re:And I want a Real Genius class by rasputin465 · · Score: 1

      Iced stairwells, auditorium beach parties, disassembled-and-reassembled-in-the-dorm-room vehicles (oh, wait, I already did that one) and Big Fscking Lasers.

      And blackjack! and hookers!

  16. 3D Fog Environments by Bones3D_mac · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is something I've found kind of interesting ever since I first heard of it a couple years ago. However, we may not be limited to simply looking much longer. For example, a newer application of the Wii Remote that allows users to convert any display into a digital white board could allow fog display users to directly manipulate both the fog and the image being projected over the affected area simultaneously, making it possible to do things like carve directly into the display itself. (Though, much of it may initially come off as a gimmick similar to some of Apple's interactive quicktime movie demos, such as realtime water ripples created on mouseclicks.)

    Eventually, I'd love to see a way to do this that doesn't require the fog, like maybe using lasers to intersect at a single point in 3D space in such a way that the polarization reflects the light back to the viewer at that point, while remaining invisible elsewhere.

    --


    8==8 Bones 8==8
    1. Re:3D Fog Environments by CryoPenguin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Eventually, I'd love to see a way to do this that doesn't require the fog, like maybe using lasers to intersect at a single point in 3D space in such a way that the polarization reflects the light back to the viewer at that point, while remaining invisible elsewhere.

      Photons don't interact with photons. It doesn't matter whether it's lased, polarized, or whatever; two or more beams of light will just pass through each other.
      (This is also, btw, why photons aren't regularly used as qubits in a quantum computer. It's easy to make them coherent, but you can't compute anything if your qubits don't interact.)
    2. Re:3D Fog Environments by JohnFluxx · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Actually that's not quite true - photons can bounce off each other. It's just rare.

      On a different note, what you can do is have the beams have enough energy density to be close to breaking down the air. Then where they intersect there will be enough energy to break down the air and create a plasma. This will be a reflective point. It's kinda loud though.

    3. Re:3D Fog Environments by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      I was working with an enormous UV laser and at one point in the beampath, (for reasons I don't understand) it had a focal point. It did exactly what you're talking about: there was a little glowing ball of spark-filled plasma just sitting in the open air (since it was an invisible beam.) That was pretty cool, but definitely not where you wanted any part of yourself to be. To make it more fun, we pulsed the laser, especially when warming it up or checking for dark spots on the optics, so it'd be running at a nanosecond pulse per second, just 'pop'...'pop'... and you'd see this moment of bright glow where the focal point was. Another thing I learned from working in a room with an uncontained, invisible megawatt laser beam was that just about anything phosphoresces: paper, denim jeans, skin: it all glows a nice yellowish for just a moment after getting hit. (That's how we'd check the optics: we'd hold up a piece of paper, it'd go 'pop', and the glow and the burn pattern on the paper would show if one of the mirrors or lenses had a problem. Only, sometimes if you weren't careful, it wasn't just the paper that got hit. Leather gloves phosphoresce, too.)

      --
      Nostalgia's not what it used to be.
    4. Re:3D Fog Environments by JohnFluxx · · Score: 1

      I too work with lasers. And I can attest to the beam going places you don't intend it to - I once nearly blinded myself with a pulse laser :( I was blind for about half a day, and had to have an injection in my eye. Gotta be careful.

    5. Re:3D Fog Environments by smellsofbikes · · Score: 1

      A major reason I'm now in electronics is that every laser place I worked, the majority of the people doing the work had permanent eye damage. With the UV excimer system, the PhD who designed it had severe astigmatism from DIY lasik -- he'd flattened his cornea with a blast when a laser that was supposedly off let out one last pulse. I later was working with ultrafast freq-doubled copper ion lasers, and there, both the PhD's who spent time in the lab and the other tech had blind spots from green getting past safety glasses and burning holes in their retinas. I had one good exposure there, when I walked in a lab where there was a running laser in the open, because the 'laser on' warning light outside wasn't working, but it just left me foggy in one eye for a half day. (I had it checked, coz my girlfriend's in ophthalmology -- good choice on my part, huh?) It's endemic in the industry. I prefer working with invisible wavelengths because those mostly only damage the external tissues that can be repaired, but even better is working with low voltage electronics, because the worst thing that could happen is I could get lead poisoning from licking the circuit boards.

      --
      Nostalgia's not what it used to be.
    6. Re:3D Fog Environments by JohnFluxx · · Score: 1

      So very true. Everyone I worked with had an accident. I too got out of that business for the same reason. I was so scared that I'd lost my eyesight.

      Now I do theoritical particle physics. Most I have to worry about it dropping a heavy book on my foot. :-)

  17. education revolution by drDugan · · Score: 1

    Will this revolution be televised? Maybe youtubed?

    I'd like to see projects like this trickle into the anemic science materials at the highschool level and make learning science fun. Hopefully they contribute their materials to one/some of the several open coursework sites.

    1. Re:education revolution by doodlyoodly · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That would complete the circle ... since most of these projects were 'lifted' from youtube in the first place.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMLop6MIwUU
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhBn1ozht-E

      I have some teachers that would love this - "OK kids, go to youtube, steal an idea and make it. I'll be in the chemistry cupboard.

    2. Re:education revolution by jimmydevice · · Score: 1

      I have some teachers that would love this - "OK kids, go to youtube, steal an idea and make it. I'll be in the chemistry cupboard smoking and having a shot.
      Fixed it for ya.

      At least when I was in high school.

  18. Disruptive techonogies is a real area of study by Raul654 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Disruptive technologies is a very real area of study. Supercomputing 2006 and 2007 even had a panel on it. (My phd adviser is one of the people listed there) Although somewhat buzz-wordy, the idea is to signify technologies that have the potential to bring about great change within an industry.

    Just to name one kind of such technology for computing, if someone could get automatic parallelization to work reliably, that would be a very disruptive technology. (20 years of research has yet to achieve this, but people keep trying)

    --


    To make laws that man cannot, and will not obey, serves to bring all law into contempt.
    --E.C. Stanton
  19. Oh, sorry. by PHAEDRU5 · · Score: 1

    I thought this was about "Intelligent Design".

    --
    668: Neighbour of the Beast
  20. Re:Baseless assertion? by gomiam · · Score: 4, Funny

    Missing Objects office here. A humour sense unit has been found. Please come and check whether it is yours.

  21. Interesting Science Courses Online by WallyDrinkBeer · · Score: 1

    I really enjoyed watching the Physics for Future President's course from UC.

    http://webcast.berkeley.edu/course_details.php?seriesid=1906978373 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ysbZ_j2xi0 (if you don't like real player!)

    Kind of lightweight and zero math involved but entertaining for non science nerds.
  22. Nothing new, move on by harris+s+newman · · Score: 1

    When I went to U.T. Austin in 1981 I took a class called "Fantastic Theories and Sobering Facts". U.T. Austin has always been a leader in classes for non-science majors. Oh, and HOOKEM!

  23. Re:Baseless assertion? by Merusdraconis · · Score: 1, Troll

    Just so long as you're forced to laugh at my black joke. After all, if you won't join in making fun of black people, you're just a stick-in-the-mud, right?

  24. Re:Baseless assertion? by McGiraf · · Score: 2, Funny

    You've been well trained! :)

  25. Re:Baseless assertion? by lostfayth · · Score: 1

    As evidence I present my wife, who while showing occasional signs of rational thought, is consistently irrational.

    But that's half the fun!

  26. Center for Weird Science (Studies) and pencil by shanen · · Score: 1

    http://cws.org/ still exists, and it used to have some content years ago. This actually goes back at least to the '80s when I was living in Austin. Not sure I should name any names, but I wonder if any of he same people are involved. I was only peripherally aware of it, though I did have one of the official CWS pencils. My recollections are fuzzy after all these years, but I think the menu venue of weirdness was called "Slope House", somewhere on West 6th street, where a number of the principals lived at the time. It was called the slope house because it was an old house and all the floors were sloping by that time...

    --
    Freedom = (Meaningful - Coerced) Choice != (Speech | Beer^2), and sad sock puppets' bad mods avail them naught.
  27. This is science, not fiction, DOH! by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 3, Funny

    I read nothing about animating an uber-hot girlfriend!


    You dumb - any decent slashdotter would know that there are NO SUCH THINGS as girlfriends. Face it, IT'S A MYTH!
  28. Re:slashfags by jimmydevice · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't "Yourselfs" have a apostrophe? I'm not clear on punctuation Nazism.

  29. corner case? by cyphercell · · Score: 1

    If this is a rational world, why would rational women read cosmo? Why would rational men read maxim, look at playboy, or watch the man show?

    Anyways, time for an assumption, given your wife has a PHD I would postulate that you too, have at least reached some manner of success in your career, education, or business. If not, you're probably good in bed and she's quite a bit older. Presuming gigolo gold diggers post on myspace not slashdot, I guess you both have achieved a nominal degree of success in at least one area of your lives. I assert this leaves the both of you with a predisposition for at least marginal success, if not happiness in love. You are not Mr. and Mrs. Joe & Jane A. Verage and Love is never necessarily rational.

    Women often claim that "men are dumb" or things like "all the good ones are taken" or whatever. At what point do these idioms of dating angst become misogynistic? Is it really when we're talking about a movie where two nerds have trouble with the opposite sex and decide to build their own girl?

    --
    Under the influence of Post-Cyberpunk Gonzo Journalism
  30. Re:Good job UT by ludwigvan968 · · Score: 1

    Sandy Stone teaches the class.

  31. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  32. Taught by Al Williamson? by opencity · · Score: 1

    I'd take that class. Have Frank bring some models.

    --
    Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.
  33. Re:Baseless assertion? by krewemaynard · · Score: 1

    I just watched Blazing Saddles this weekend. I laughed, but no one forced me to. I didn't see any reference to being stick-in-the-mud for not laughing at the racial humor in that movie, but I did see two black people in the mud (along with a hand cart)...pretty funny scene, actually. :) Folks around here need to lighten up.

    Hey, where the white women at??
    --
    I saw it on Slashdot, it must be true!
  34. Re:Baseless assertion? by cyphercell · · Score: 1

    you're insane. maybe when citing a notion thousands of years old you should ask yourself why it is we don't practice human sacrifice, and burn scientists at the stake.

    --
    Under the influence of Post-Cyberpunk Gonzo Journalism
  35. Colleges are Businesses by popo · · Score: 1

    ...and many are immensely profitable ones.

    If you'll pay to take the class, they'll offer it. There's not much mystery there.

    --
    ------ The best brain training is now totally free : )
  36. Re:Baseless assertion? by Robber+Baron · · Score: 1

    There is nothing rational about women. Would you care to support that statement? If you cannot or choose not to, what does that say about your rationality? (It is worth noting I believe you are likely a male rather than a female who writes to degrade and misunderstand members of her own gender.)

    In lieu of evidence backing up your claim, I offer my wife as an example contradicting your generalization (even if my assumption regarding your sex is incorrect). A lynchpin of the relationship I have with her is our mutual ability to consistently solve our problems rationally. To reinforce that point, her name is prefixed with the title of "doctor", a respected and enlightened status one does not achieve without the ability to reason. Not good enough. "Doctor" doesn't automatically equal "rational", in fact in many instances it can mean nothing more than "able to regurgitate and parrot dogma".

    --

    You're using her as bait, Master!

  37. Re:Baseless assertion? by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Care to respond or are we all going to just let these anachronistic and misogynistic myths perpetuate ad infinitum?

    Can we all join the fun?

    My wife is smarter than me, more fit, better educated and a better programmer. I'm just barely more qualified with networks and architecture, and I'm definitely less of a cook. I have an extraordinary amount of respect for her.

    But if I ever accused her of being a rational being, she'd break my cranium, and then subtly change something to keep me off balance.

    See? Geeks do know about women. Just not very much.

    --
    Do not mock my vision of impractical footwear
  38. What??? No Evolution mention by OldSoldier · · Score: 1

    Given that this is Texas and the recent ID news from there http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/12/01/0551221 I would have thought EVOLUTION qualified as "weird science" in Texas.

  39. Gym Class by gijoel · · Score: 1

    Dear Miss LeBrock,
    My son Joel is currently suffering from a groin injury and is unable to stand up in his gym shorts whilst you are teaching. Please allow him to keep his groin covered with a towel or blanket whilst he remains seated. He also has to do a massage exercise on his groin whilst it is covered by the blanket, so please don't ruin the moment.

    Yours
    Mrs. Joel's mother.

  40. Re:Baseless assertion? by alan_dershowitz · · Score: 1

    White people drive like this. Black people drive like this.

  41. Re:Baseless assertion? by Lethyos · · Score: 1

    Well, it is fair enough to say that nobody is entirely rational. As I mentioned in an earlier response, that was not my intention. To clarify the point, it is incorrect to say: a person is irrational because they are a woman. Perhaps we can accurately say: a person may be either rational or irrational, disregarding gender.

    Your humility is commendable and something most of the rest of us could learn a great deal from.

    But if I ever accused her of being a rational being, she'd break my cranium, and then subtly change something to keep me off balance.

    She, like you and I, is both rational and irrational. And the allocation of the two differs from person to person and I do not believe that gender is a prevailing factor (although nurture most definitely is). While I know nothing about the mechanics of your relationship and I am definitely a psychology layman, that sort of behavior seems to me like a form of play. Participants in all sorts of social groups engage each other in games, and I think couples are no different.

    Geeks do know about women. Just not very much.

    As much as you can learn about anybody, I suppose.

    --
    Why bother.
  42. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  43. Re:Baseless assertion? by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

    It's not humility, I'm just being clinical. Brains come in all packages. But I'm not willing to strip away the role playing gender games, they keep me from rolling out of bed.

    --
    Do not mock my vision of impractical footwear
  44. nobody said it? by jayratch · · Score: 1

    Keep Austin Weird!

  45. Re:Baseless assertion? by some+damn+guy · · Score: 1

    "Would you care to support that statement? If you cannot or choose not to, what does that say about your rationality? (It is worth noting I believe you are likely a male rather than a female who writes to degrade and misunderstand members of her own gender.)"

    If you think there's anything consciously rational about the way _human beings_ usually make everyday decisions, you really need to go back to school. Even smart people do suboptimal/irrational/dumb things all the flippin' time. But unless you're a supreme tool (or an economist) you understand this and just wanted to take the "nothing rational about women" comment completely literally since that made the flimsiest straw man.

    So, maybe it's possible that you and your wife have the only rational relationship on earth and are so clearly better than us all, due to your ultra-enlightened/educated status, that you really don't get this. However, a 'rational' person would conclude it's far more likely that your intention was just to brag about your wife, and to try to act smart but dignified while insulting someone for making a joke

    "In lieu of evidence backing up your claim, I offer my wife as an example contradicting your generalization (even if my assumption regarding your sex is incorrect). A lynchpin of the relationship I have with her is our mutual ability to consistently solve our problems rationally. To reinforce that point, her name is prefixed with the title of doctor, a respected and enlightened status one does not achieve without the ability to reason." .

    Here's a hint- all the hey-its-a-real-logical-argument verbosity just seems pathetic when you aren't making a particularly complicated one. If you just said "nuh-uh, mah wife is rational, cuz _she's_ a doctor", it would have sounded kind of childish, right? Well, thats still all you said so dressing it up doesn't make you look smart. It just makes you look like you need to put down the thesaurus find something useful to be outraged about.

    "Care to respond or are we all going to just let these anachronistic and misogynistic myths perpetuate ad infinitum? "

    How about "you're a pretentious tosspot?" That work for you? And if your wife is a real doctor, not like the liberal-arts type but the useful kind, I'd recommend you tone it down a bit. Makes you look a little insecure. Women hate that.

  46. Re:Baseless assertion? by Plutonite · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah? First off, you have a wife, which implies you have a human sexual partner, which is an issue of concern in and of itself. We're not going to talk about this, but I just want you to know we regard you with extreme suspicion as a result of that statement.

    Second, you cannot offer contradicting examples "in lieu" of evidence, you arrogant vagina. Your attempt at grammatical decor is so disgusting, so contorted, you could substitute that sentence in for a whole week of pr0n videos at any old BDSM site and the clientele wouldn't mind. Then you have the nerve (I won't say balls, because you have apparently lost them a long ass time ago) to use the word "lynchpin"... in the *very next sentence*. I am appalled.

    My computer and I solve problems rationally. My thesis supervisor and I solve problems rationally. But a wife? Logic? Are you even listening to yourself here? Next you'll be telling us your wife doesn't ask you what you're doing in the bathroom or try to irritate you when you're watching football on TV, or argue incessantly about silly little things in a high pitched voice just to get your attention. If she has boobies, then she will do all these things no matter what sequence of characters you pronounce before her name, and no matter how big her contribution to the PhD-thesis-factory that academic institutions have turned into this century. Enlightened, yeah. You poor man. And there's this certain time of the month, a very special time of the month... hell, why am I even trying. You're a lost case.

    You know what, I will stop right here rather than give you a run down of factual evidence that irrational behavior is part of the exam females have to pass to ensure healthy breast development, because you are so painfully brainwashed that any attempt to re-educate you on the subject will have negative consequences on your relationship with your "wife". If you don't have the balls (sorry, never mind) to stand upright and ruffle the hair on your chest and holler out at the stupidity of what the woman is doing, then nothing good can come of this. You may stop solving things logically together. Imagine that. Or maybe you'll break down in tears and tell her to forgive you for leaving the toilet seat up. I won't have that happen to *any* man, even a clueless schmuck like you. It's just wrong.

    I run into strange people on the internets... unconceivable, twisted minds. Yet in spite of all your pussyfooting around and your fear of the ad infinitum, you are the best candidate for the male savior of feminism I have seen thus far. Well done, you have my vote.

  47. Wonderful! Show the world that science IS exciting by MindPrison · · Score: 1

    I love it!

    This will bring the "Marty" out in all the potential future engineers out there, it may seem like a joke to many - but its dead serious! Weve had a decline in general science interest amongst kids these days - too much effort and too little actual "fun" - thats how they perceive science, but science is so much more - and anything WORTH doing costs patience and dedication.

    The weird science classes will hopefully be a "springboard" for many students to "leap" into science and be fun enough to understand that they must invest time and dedication in order to receive actual results.

    I have a "Weird Science" lab of my own - besides my work in a totally different area, that is because the most exciting areas of science is usually found in the unexpected results, things we didnt know before...stuff we stumble upon....as well as creativity.

    Creativity is the single most important asset we have, math you can learn - anyone can learn - call it complex...call it advanced...call it animal names...doesnt matter what you call it, math is a constant - creativity is not - when both meet - wonderful tings can happen.

    --
    What this world is coming to - is for you and me to decide.
  48. Sounds like "Magic Shows" at RPI by karlandtanya · · Score: 1
    AKA, physics lectures for the frosh--great for getting their attention.

    /Meltzer is god!

    --
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, it doesn't go away." - Philip K. Dick
  49. Re: Beakman by DJ+Katty · · Score: 1

    Beakman as the professor. The assistant as the TA (forgot her name). Lester as that one sketchy TA that taught you how to do stupid-cool things. I'd sign up for it.

  50. Laser Harp by evilviper · · Score: 2, Funny

    Do not look into laser harp with remaining eye.

    --
    Slashdot gets worse every day... Pipedot: News for nerds, without the corporate slant
  51. You read too deeply. by Lethyos · · Score: 1

    The original comment was: “[t]here is nothing rational about women”, to which I made two points in response.

    One, that holding such a firm belief (having a vagina instead of a penis disqualifies an individual for rationality) without support is itself irrational.

    Two, that the generalization is false because I can provide a single counter-example (“in place” of attempt at proof), which I attempted to reinforce with personal experience (the ability to work out problems rationally “serves to hold together parts or elements”) and a mention of credentials (that cannot be gotten by someone incapable of rational thought).

    Nowhere did I make a general claim about women (or men) one way or the other and I did not even remotely imply that my wife does not behave irrationally at times (surprise, all humans do). My only position was and is that my wife, a woman, is clearly capable of rationality. Nothing more.

    You have misconstrued my simple position and extrapolated it beyond any sensical ends, disparaging me along the way without ever comprehending or speaking directly to my claims, making some absurd assumptions, and never taking the time to open your dictionary. How is the water down there on the deep end anyway?

    --
    Why bother.
    1. Re:You read too deeply. by Plutonite · · Score: 1

      You cannot refute centuries of astute human observation. And you sound like you're not detecting the humor everyone is throwing at you. Are you taking us seriously, by any chance?

  52. Re:Baseless assertion? by genner · · Score: 1

    It's true, it's true we're so lame.

  53. Too much extrapolation. by Lethyos · · Score: 1

    You are assuming far too much from my comments. What I wrote is what I meant. But I want to be clear, so here I go again.

    If you think there's anything consciously rational about the way _human beings_ usually make everyday decisions, you really need to go back to school. Even smart people do suboptimal/irrational/dumb things all the flippin' time. But unless you're a supreme tool (or an economist) you understand this and just wanted to take the "nothing rational about women" comment completely literally since that made the flimsiest straw man.

    Maybe I reacted because of experience in geek culture and because I held a similar position way back when. In either case, this joke that women are irrational and impossible to understand started getting old and stopped being funny in geek culture about a decade ago, in my opinion.

    So, maybe it's possible that you and your wife have the only rational relationship on earth and are so clearly better than us all, due to your ultra-enlightened/educated status, that you really don't get this. However, a 'rational' person would conclude it's far more likely that your intention was just to brag about your wife, and to try to act smart but dignified while insulting someone for making a joke.

    Rationality is important in any relationship and it is not unusual for people to have relationships wherein problems can be worked out meaningfully (as opposed to impassioned shouting matches). But I was not even speaking to relationships, only to provide a substantive counter-example to the generalization I rejected.

    Here's a hint- all the hey-its-a-real-logical-argument verbosity just seems pathetic when you aren't making a particularly complicated one. If you just said "nuh-uh, mah wife is rational, cuz _she's_ a doctor", it would have sounded kind of childish, right? Well, thats still all you said so dressing it up doesn't make you look smart. It just makes you look like you need to put down the thesaurus find something useful to be outraged about.

    If I had said "I know a woman who is rational" and nothing else, I suspect I would have been challenged for baseless opinion. To avoid that, I cited personal experience and her credentials, that latter indicating she must at least be capable of rational thought. I hope you can see how that would fly directly in the face of: “[t]here is nothing rational about women.”

    And if your wife is a real doctor, not like the liberal-arts type but the useful kind—

    Mathematics. Define “useful kind”.

    I'd recommend you tone it down a bit. Makes you look a little insecure. Women hate that.

    Once again, my only position was and is that my wife, a woman, is clearly capable of rationality and that counters the aforementioned generalization. Explain to me how I should “tone it down”.

    --
    Why bother.
  54. Will Intelligent Design by highspl · · Score: 1

    Be covered this semester, or next?

    --
    It puts the lotion on it's skin, or else it gets the hose again.
  55. Re:Baseless assertion? by uglydog · · Score: 1

    troll, my ass. point is, at this point, sexist jokes are usually ok. racial jokes... that depends on whether or not there's black (or whatever) people around.

  56. Re:Baseless assertion? by somersault · · Score: 1

    Last night my girlfriend said that girls make no sense. I was relieved it was her that said it and not me. Now however I am worried that she may in fact be a man. You may want to check your wife's medical history.

    --
    which is totally what she said
  57. First day... by SnowDog74 · · Score: 1

    "All right, what would you little maniacs like to do first?"