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Scientology Given Direct Access To eBay Database

An anonymous reader writes "The Church of Scientology can delete auctions from eBay with no supervision under the VeRO program, and has used this to delete all resale of the e-meters Scientologists use. This is to stop members from buying used units from ex-members instead of buying from the official (and very expensive) source. Given Scientology's record of fraud and abuse, should eBay give them this level of trust? Will this set a precedent for other companies that want to stop the aftermarket resale of their products?"

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  1. F-meter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think their membership is ready for an F-meter which indicates just how much they are being fucked over by their own church.

  2. Re:Don't tell Chef but by rishistar · · Score: 4, Funny

    But I'm Hindu you insensitive clod! I have to use an Aum-meter for my religious measurements!

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  3. Anything for Tom by sweetser · · Score: 5, Funny

    It is a privilege to do everything in our power for Tom. This crap is so valuable, you should pay a lot to prove you are a sucker.

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  4. indulgences by SoupGuru · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hopefully the Catholics won't find out I've been reselling my indulgences too!

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  5. Re:Don't tell Chef but by thanksforthecrabs · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does this mean my "What Would Xenu Do?" t-shirt isn't legal?

  6. Re:Head Shops & E-Meters by rootofevil · · Score: 4, Funny
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  7. Re:Head Shops & E-Meters by Hillgiant · · Score: 5, Funny

    Erm, excuse me. What does God need with a starship?

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  8. E-meter like a condom by cgfsd · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would equate an E-meter to that of a condom. Two things you would never want to buy used and two things used for screwing people.

  9. Re:Don't tell Chef but by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Funny
    The Church of Scientology has ruined lives, had people imprisoned on false charges, sued innocent people into bankruptcy, committed espionage, harassed critics at their jobs, silence free speech, etc.

    There is nothing funny about them.

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  10. I hope that's just blustering... by Valdrax · · Score: 4, Funny

    [L]ast I tried a DOS on eBay for fucking with my mother's account, it only took a mere 5,000 simulataneous requests every ten seconds to DOS them. Err, did you forget to click the Post Anonymously checkbox before admitting to an act which may carry civil and/or criminal penalties?
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  11. Microsoft vs. the Church of Scientology by touretzky · · Score: 4, Funny

    Q: What's the difference between Microsoft and the Church of Scientology?

    A: One is a wealthy and powerful criminal enterprise bent on world domination, while the other, ah, ummm.... Microsoft has better health benefits.

  12. Re:Head Shops & E-Meters by ethanms · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's sad, but I can't stop myself from replying to this obvious nerd bait...... the quote is from Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, not "The Undiscovered Country"

  13. Re:Don't tell Chef but by Bobb+Sledd · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, it's OK. "Xenu do" was already a movie from the 80's starring Olivia Newton-John.

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  14. Re:Head Shops & E-Meters by monkeyboythom · · Score: 5, Funny

    I dunno...my girlfriend has religious paraphenalia that needs electricity. I know because when I am in another room, I can hear a buzzing sound in the bedroom and her chanting, "oh, god. oh, god! ohhhhh, gooood!"

    The real question is, since when does your religious paraphernalia need to be be plugged into the wall?
  15. Re:Head Shops & E-Meters by d3ac0n · · Score: 4, Funny

    Argh!

    You are correct. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098382/quotes

    I give myself one geek demerit for picking the wrong movie.

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  16. Re:Don't tell Chef but by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Funny
    Does this mean my "What Would Xenu Do?" t-shirt isn't legal?

    The problem with "WWXD?" is that it's just not a terribly useful guiding philosophy. For instance, imagine you're in a situation where you're having trouble getting along with your coworkers, and so you ask yourself, "WWXD?" The answer is that Xenu would round up his coworkers, put them on some starships shaped like DC-8 airliners, ship them to the distant reaches of the galaxy, and then nuke them into oblivion. So, as you can see, "WWXD?" has two major problems:

    First, the solution is *always* to put people on spaceships shaped like 1950s-era jet airliners and then nuke them, because that's all we know about Xenu. "WWXD?" dictates that you put people on DC-8 shaped spaceships and then nuke them in any situation, whether it's marital problems, dealing with the poor, or feeling frustrated that you dropped your grilled cheese sandwich: just round up a bunch of people, put them on airplane-shaped spaceships, and then drop a bunch of H-bombs on them. It's just not very flexible as a philosophy.

    The second issue with the "WWXD?" philosophy is more practical. Xenu was an evil galactic overlord. As a galactic overlord, he had lots of resources, in particular, lots of minions and henchmen to round people up and put them on spaceships, and lots of spaceships shaped like DC-8s, and lots of thermonuclear bombs. Unless you have access to similar resources, "WWXD?" is just not practical to apply to your everyday life. Although I admit, when I think of how to deal with Scientologists, and then ask "WWXD?", I have to admit that the philosophy does have some appeal.

  17. Oh, okay. It's just blustering, after all. by Valdrax · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, I just don't give a fuck. What's the law going to do? I just opened 5,000 various auctions in my Firefox browser and set them to auto-refresh at the same time. The fact that their servers couldn't stand up to a simulation of 5,000 people clicking 'refresh' at the same time doesn't constitute a violation of law. The key word in the sentence is 'TRIED' not 'successfully carried out' My bad. You *attempted* to commit a felony. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers there, chief.

    In that case, never mind. It's much more likely that you executed a denial of service attack on your *own* machine than on eBay. I mean, you do know that Firefox has an upper limit on how many connections it will actually open at the same time, right? (Go to about:config and filter for "connect.") All other connections are just placed in a queue until Firefox has an available slot. The slowdown was entirely on your own machine and LAN.

    I mean, honestly... Did you really think that you were being some sort of 1337 super-hax0r by using *one* machine on a single home or school connection to bog down one of the largest e-commerce sites on the planet?

    (Oh, also, your proposed Million Loser March is more likely to DoS your proxy service than eBay itself.)

    The law's tried it before anyways. I run rings around them every time, simpyly because most judges aren't smart enough to know what they're trying to charge me for. Sure thing, kid. Keep saying things like that in a public forum. We're all in awe of your brilliance and eagerly await to see the way in which your intellect would dazzle the courtroom.
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  18. Re:/s/Xenu/Cowboyneal by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

    The problem with "WWCBND?" is that it's just not a terribly useful guiding philosophy. For instance, imagine you're in a situation where you're having trouble getting along with your coworkers, and so you ask yourself, "WWCBND?" The answer is that CowboyNeal would sit on a couch, eat Pringles, and play video games. So, as you can see, "WWCBND?" has two major problems:

    First, the solution is *always* to sit on a couch, eat Pringles, and play video games because that's all we know about CowboyNeal. "WWCBND?" dictates that you sit on a couch, eat Pringles, and play video games in any situation, whether it's marital problems, dealing with the poor, or feeling frustrated that you dropped your grilled cheese sandwich: just sit on a couch, eat some Pringles, and play video games. It's just not very flexible as a philosophy.

    The second issue with the "WWCBND?" philosophy is more practical. CowboyNeal is a fat slob. As a fat slob, he already has the resources to follow through with this plan, in particular, he has a couch, lots of Pringles, and plenty of video games to play. Unless you have access to similar resources, "WWCBND?" is just not practical to apply to your everyday life. Although I admit, when I think of how to deal with the fact that I too am a fat slob, and then ask "WWCBND?", I have to admit that the philosophy does have some appeal.

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  19. Re:Church by emilper · · Score: 5, Funny

    no, it's a sect, a split from the Church of "Astounding Stories".

  20. Open letter to eBay by chord.wav · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear eBay,
    Get some balls.

    Sincerely,
    Me

  21. E-Meter? Ha! by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 4, Funny

    An E-Meter is no match for the "Church of Jobs" iMeter!

  22. Re:/s/Xenu/Cowboyneal by Stormwatch · · Score: 4, Funny

    You know... sitting on a couch, eating Pringles, and playing video games has never caused wars or anything. The world would be a better place if people followed CowboyNeal's fine example.

  23. Re:Don't tell Chef but by EllisDees · · Score: 4, Funny

    >I thought making fun of religions was not allowed because it was insensitive and intolerant ?

    Anything is "allowed", as far as free speech goes. While making fun of a religion might be insensitive and intolerant, making fun of Scientology is neither. Scientology is a religion like tofu is a meat.

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