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Leaked RIAA Training Video

An anonymous reader writes "Gizmodo has a clip of that RIAA training video produced with the NDAA for US prosecutors that was leaked to torrent sites a few days ago. It argues they should pursue piracy cases because it leads to bigger and badder wares, like handguns, drugs, terrorist orgs, and hardcore repeat offender criminals. It's kind of sad how far they're stretching to bring law enforcement into the matter."

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  1. That solves everything! by themushroom · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because, you know, terrorists always watch pirated movies and download pop albums, and they're constantly Torrenting weapons of mass destruction (though it takes awhile with their throughput).

    RIAA, Homeland Security... who knew they were one and the same?

    1. Re:That solves everything! by Jarik_Tentsu · · Score: 5, Funny

      In future news...

      George W. Bush: We have EVIDENCE that Sweden is hosting the servers of mass destruction owned by the notorious terrorist organisation, The Pirate Bay! Sweden is refusing to shutdown this evil group, so we must invade them to maintain peace in the world!

      Random Person: But Mr. President...what does file-sharing have to do with terrorism?

      George W. Bush: You must have missed that informative video presented by our friends, the RIAA linking file-sharing to terrorism. These 'torrents' can cause mass destruction and have already resulted in billions of dollars of damage to our economy and this is the beginning to them...torture, rape and murder is what is to come! We must liberate the internet from the tyranny and dictatorship of these file-sharers!

      *Post-War with Sweden*

      George W. Bush: I don't understand! We flattened every single server cluster in the country and Pirate Bay is up again...!

      CIA: It seems they have multiple mirrors across the globe.

      George W. Bush: They're all terrorist supporters! NUKE THEM ALL!

      ~Jarik

    2. Re:That solves everything! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well it's obvious you haven't got a fucking clue what you're talking about because the video is NOT talking about downloads, it's talking about ACTUAL piracy. That is, counterfeiting. Copying something and then selling it for a profit. And you know what? I'm dead set against that. I support the police and the MPAA/RIAA in their crusade to stamp out counterfeiting, because that really DOES harm the producer as well as the consumer. I only wish they'd spend half the effort stamping that out as they have trying to convince people that copying DVDs and CDs is wrong.

    3. Re:That solves everything! by KDR_11k · · Score: 5, Funny

      I thought when you said actual piracy you meant boarding freighters, killing the crew and taking their valuables. I can see how that might lead to more violent crimes.

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  2. Muhahahahaha by Ariastis · · Score: 5, Funny


    A CD today, tomorrow the world! arrrrrrrrrrr....

  3. How? by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Funny

    How will they pursue piracy cases without a Navy?

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  4. gateway crime misinformation by Will+the+Chill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is just the same old "gateway crime" argument, which, if history is any example, will inevitably be scientifically proven false by statistical studies showing (perhaps a correlation, but) no causation.

    All agressive prosecutors (persecutors?) will fall back on this precept when it starts to become clear the "crime" they're fighting against is victimless and thus shouldn't be considered a crime at all.

    I find this is mostly caused by greed and ignorance on the part of the persecuting party and any agencies they employ in their unethical battle.

    -WtC

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    1. Re:gateway crime misinformation by DracusMage · · Score: 5, Interesting

      'Cause you start out stealing songs and then you're robbing liquor stores
      And sellin' crack and runnin' over school kids with your car

      I never thought that a Weird Al song would actually be a part of the RIAA's groundwork for getting the government to do their bidding. But if the RIAA says that downloading songs is going to lead to running guns and drugs, then we should take this a step further.

      In order to better "think of the children" we should immediately disband the RIAA and all of the record companies. I mean, if stealing songs leads to drugs being sold to children, or guns being fired at people, we should do the "right thing" and keep anyone from stealing music. Since they can't do this the way they are going at it, then obviously we should stop the music piracy by stopping the music.
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    2. Re:gateway crime misinformation by IdleTime · · Score: 5, Interesting
      USA should follow Norways example on how to deal with RIAA, MPAA and other such extortion outfits.
      http://torrentfreak.com/norwegian-police-deal-massive-blow-to-mpaa-lawyer-080220/

      "Like many lawyers in the anti-piracy arena, Tøndel tries to blur civil and criminal law to obtain leverage. The police are clear - their priority is investigating real crimes, such as murder and robbery and sadly for him, file-sharing does not fall into those categories. Tøndel must now make his claims against alleged pirates in a civil court.

      Following this major setback, Tøndel wrote to the Department of Justice and demanded a meeting with them. Unfortunately for Tøndel, the response wasn't what he'd been hoping for -the Department of Justice completely refused him a meeting- leaving him to start suing IP addresses, which he's not allowed to do. Ouch."
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    3. Re:gateway crime misinformation by Samgilljoy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is just the same old "gateway crime" argument, which, if history is any example, will inevitably be scientifically proven false by statistical studies showing (perhaps a correlation, but) no causation.

      And the old gateway crime argument is just a form of the ancient post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.

      People fill in the gaps in their information with ideology. Unfortunately, a great deal of law enforcement training perpetuates these ideas. Time and again, they'll tell you that people convicted of felony X first committed misdemeanor Y, but they fail to notice that they have no idea how many people actually commit misdemeanor Y without ever coming under the radar. Counterarguments which are under the radar, like the hordes of people who smoke pot but don't do crack, are filed away as potential crack smokers rather than demonstrations that smoking pot does not necessarily lead to smoking crack. They also ignore extensions of their own arguments, and not just the ad nauseam examples. For instance, one could just as easily say that drinking beer leads to smoking crack even in adults, but they won't. Why causal linkages between beer and pot and crack are so strong in kids, while the link between beer and anything "druggy" magically disappears during adulthood is beyond me, but then, I only had 9 years of full-time University education and 3 years of doctoral research, so I guess I ain't clever enough to suss out thar thinkun'

    4. Re:gateway crime misinformation by tubapro12 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Interesting idea, but the way I see it, if they're going to argue that piracy is a gateway crime, how can they not argue that music makes people violent? I have to offset this with the fact that they are the RIAA, nevertheless, combining these two opinions seems roughly logically consistent to me.

  5. It all started so innocently. by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Funny

    It was the heady days of the dot com era, and I was but a wee lad hacking away in my bedroom. One fateful day I stumbled upon a website called Napster, and soon began downloading hordes of ill-gotten music. Before long, my insatiable craving for tunes led me to buy more hard drives, then a RAID enclosure, then an enterprise-level SAN... I should have seen the warning signs.

    I gradually withdrew from my friends and family, unable to control my urge for more tunes. I knew it was wrong, but it felt so... right. I began using other filesharing software, and soon experienced strange hallucinations involving limes and wires. I told a friend about it, and he gave me some pills to help me sleep better at night. The troubling dreams and hallucinations faded, but now I couldn't stop taking the pills. Chain smoking, heavy drinking, and chronic pacing soon developed. I was having trouble concentrating on anything other than file swapping, and began using crack cocaine to improve my focus. My teeth began to loosen in their sockets, and I was fired from work after failing a drug test.

    Now I live on the streets, feeding my addiction through unsecured wireless hotspots that I access through a Pentium 90 connected to an exercise bike generator. My crack cocaine consumption has skyrocketed due to my need to constantly pedal the bike lest my rig lose power. Heed my warning: sharing and downloading music will ruin your life! Contact your local RIAA liason to seek treatment immediately. It's not too late... friends don't let friends use filesharing software.

    1. Re:It all started so innocently. by garett_spencley · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Now I live on the streets, feeding my addiction through unsecured wireless hotspots that I access through a Pentium 90 connected to an exercise bike generator. My crack cocaine consumption has skyrocketed due to my need to constantly pedal the bike lest my rig lose power"

      Well on the bright side, at least you're staying in shape ...

  6. Training? by ezwip · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you have not seen the video you can search for it on piratebay.org

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  7. The Irony Is... by fsckr · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That many of the 'artists' that the RIAA protects are hardcore repeat offender criminals that are pimping the handguns, drugs etc etc

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  8. ROFFLCOPTER by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 5, Informative

    The story forgot something...

    The link of the TORRENT ...or search RIAA training video on piratebay

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  9. Re:You know what? by mdenham · · Score: 5, Funny

    Considering how I don't listen to any (well, hardly any - "Still Alive" is catchy) music newer than about 1987, how about you just burn me a "Best of Black Sabbath" album and I'll write you a check for $6.95?

  10. Re:You know what? by The+Ultimate+Fartkno · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll do you one better. You go here...

    http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3678098/Black_Sabbath-The_Best_Of_Black_Sabbath-2CD-(Remastered)-2007-EO ...and download it yourself. You burn it and send Sabbath a check, as I had nothing to do with it and have no claim to their cash. If the boys in the band like their arrangement with the label then they'll kick back some of the money. If not, then their beef is with the suits. Either way, I'm okay with it.

    However, you should be warned that by downloading that torrent you're supporting communism, AIDS, baby rape, and late fees at video stores. I hope you're happy with yourself, you amoral hooligan.

  11. Re:While it may be true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "If they [RIAA} want to fight organized crime,.."

    Family doesn't fight family - capish?

  12. Re:we are like SO legion by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Informative

    Can we now have a bunch of idiots upload time lapse videos of clouds with synthesized voice overlays declaring the end of the RIAA?
    Please?
    Can we?

    They can even wear Guy Fawkes masks if they want!

    I'm no moron, my mate, but I'll merrily meet your invitation. Let my moniker be my mask.

    *clears throat*

    "The anti-MAFIAA Manifesto" (v3.06)

    Market Momentum. A marginal improvement in a massive move of milliards of monetary units. Mobs maintaining their millionaire manors with a martial ministry, marauding and muzzling the melomaniacs who made the mistake of mounting multi-user music-sharing programs onto their microprocessors, mostly for an ear-mashing, mundane and monotonous munch of music, with a miserable "remastered" dynamic range.

    The Machiavellian Music Industry, the Movie Masterminds and their malevolent minions, muscled by the majority of the media, masquerade their managers as martyrs to maintain a megalithic marketing model, misleading the masses into malls like mules, macerating -no, milking- their income and molding them: With mesmerizing melodies, moronic mottos, mountains of merchandise and meticulously mannered nominations, those monsters mutilate the masses' minds, melding them into not more than mere mammals, with a microscopic mental magnitude, matching the mud and the moss.

    Myth? Misstatement? Madness? MATERIALISM!

    Meanwhile, in their magnificent mansions, the mink-mantled magnates morbidly mock the minorities' misfortune, while moistening their mouths in martinis under the moonlight, and masticating their meat and marshmallows like no tomorrow.

    Those mischievous moguls magnify their monumental monopolies by multiplying their machinery: Digital Rights Management, DMCA, "Trusted" Computing (Mr. Stallman was not mistaken). Maltreating musicians, misusing copyright to the max, mirroring the Matrix by mining the government to monitor communications, marching like the militia to school meetings in the mornings with menacing memos, mirthfully mismatching mortified mothers for maleficent mobsters, mandating most into misspending more and more (or be imprisoned). Their main motivation is no mystery: Money.

    Money! A metastatic misery, a muddling myopia, a momentary make-believe, a magnetizing mirage! A manipulating mephisto, which metamorphoses the meek into mercenaries and murderers, making them moan like Midas in a maniacal manner: "mine, mine, mine!!" Is modesty no more?

    MONEY! MAY OUR MAKER MALEDICT THEE!

    (Meditate my musing for a moment)

    This melee, to maximize their market share. Most of mankind's malignancy is merged into a man-made monster of mastodonic measures. A mammoth called MAFIAA. Months pass, and the multitudes mourn the ever-minimizing mobility of their mediocre minds, amidst marred music, meaningless media transmissions, and miniaturizing freedom. This multinational massacre must be terminated, but most men make meager or no moves, at most mimetizing their communications with muTorrent, masked by the mist of encryption. Is this illegal? Maybe. Morally wrong? Maybe, maybe not (memorize this term: Civil Disobedience).

    IT IS MANDATORY THAT WE DO MUCH MORE, OR THIS MACABRE MELTDOWN WILL MOVE ON!!

    Militate and manifest yourselves in the metropolis! This is a major command! Miraculous modifications start as a minimal idea in a man or a woman's mind. Maintain your might! Manly move forward, and donate money to your magnanimous comrades, the EFF and FSF, for their mission is not minor! But if you malinger...

    Memorize my message, merciless mice! You might enjoy your freedoms for a minuscule moment - you shall miss them in melancholy for millennia, after they mutate into a marooned, mummified memory in a mausoleum named morgue. Misunderstand me not: this moderate memento, merriment to many, may be a premonitory ultimatum.

    A MAYDAY!

    Merry to meet you, I'm merely a man behind a mask with a mystifying moniker. I am M.

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  13. It actually does solve a lot... by Serengeti · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hate to ruin the fun here... seriously I love all of you... but no where in the video were they suggesting that piracy and terrorism, murder or drugs are related.

    All that was suggested was that if officers wanted into a suspects home, but did not have enough evidence to issue a warrant on the suspected charges alone, they could use piracy as a means to get that warrant. The intent, which should be obvious by now, is to get into the house so that evidence of terrorism, drug trafficking or violent intent involving firearms might then be 'coincidentally' discovered.

    And hey... sounds like it's a great strategy. How many people do you know that haven't pirated anything at all? The police just found themselves a skeleton key.

    1. Re:It actually does solve a lot... by mitchellfx · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here's a quote from the video. According to a prosecutor from the RIAA:

      "I think number one it has to be stressed that this crime, this type of crime effects quality of life in the DA's, uh, jurisdiction in the cities in which they work and live, but the other thing is that it's a link to a lot of other crimes. And I tell the prosecutors and I tell the police officers that I work with all the time use this type of a crime as a tool this might lead you to a drug investigation...It also has links to terrorism organizations for you federal prosecutors out there..."

      You can find this about 2 minutes into the video.

  14. Re:While it may be true by kb0hae · · Score: 5, Informative

    The RIAA and MPAA need to get their shit together.

    1-When I rip songs from a legally purchased CD to OGG files on my computer, that is NOT piracy, anymore than making a compilation CD of my favorite songs from my collection of legally purchased CD is.

    2- Recording from radio and TV stations that are broadcasting over the air has always been allowed...it is NOT piracy.

    3-P2P downloads of music and movies have been shown to increase sales of music and movies...People don't like to buy something that they haven't heard/seen. Downloading copyrighted movies and music via P2P IS piracy, but it is not hurting the movie or music industry as much as they are hurting themselves by trying to hang on to their outdated business model, and treating their customers like they are ALL criminals.

    4-This is the Big One...The RIAA, and MPAA need to go after the big pirates...you know...the ones who are making hundreds of thousands of illegal copies of copyrighted movies and music, and selling them all over the world.

    Of course, I am not saying anything that the folks on /. don't know...

  15. I can see it now... by Landshark17 · · Score: 5, Funny

    *two brothers, Billy and Timmy come home, Billy is listening to his iPod*

    Mom: Billy, did you legally obtain all the music on that iPod?
    Billy: Yes, mom.
    Mom: Mrs. Johnson told me her son lent you a CD... you know that's piracy!
    Billy: But, mom!
    Mom: No "buts"! You're grounded and no internet for you until we're sure the RIAA isn't tapping our computer!
    Billy: But Timmy stabbed a kid at school today!
    Timmy: The voices tell me to hurt people.
    Mom: Did he violate international copyright law?
    Billy: There were cops and an ambulence and everything!
    Mom: You didn't answer my question.
    Billy: No. He didn't.
    Mom: That's right. Now you go to your room. Timmy, would you like some ice cream?
    Timmy: I want to burn things.

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  16. Re:Sweden's neutral! by Paolone · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sweden stayed out of the first and second war by NOT being important either strategically or resource-wise Except for the enormous amount of iron ore mined out shipped out to Germany and Britain, of course: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_iron_ore_during_World_War_II
  17. Re:Sweden's neutral! by stupidflanders · · Score: 5, Funny
    The Viet Cong held off pretty darn well without the tools of "modern warfare" in 'Nam. Guerilla warfare is amazingly effective in some situations. Even George Washington used it in the American Revolutionary War:

    ...he came to understand that what we now know as guerrilla warfare was the only way to fight in the American wild, and he mastered it


    I can see it now: Sweede/geeks hiding behind server clusters, plotting raids on Rockstar caches, wearing down the morale of the enemy by constantly playing Hamster Dance.
  18. Re:Sweden's neutral! by Ozeroc · · Score: 5, Funny

    "So who makes those knives then?"

        If you're talking about Swiss Army Knives then I guess it would have to be the Swiss, who live in Switzerland, which is a good drive from Sweden.

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