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Microsoft Pulls Vista SP1 Update
1shooter writes "news.com reports that Microsoft is withdrawing SP1 for Vista. Nick White, Microsoft product manager blogged 'We've heard a few reports about problems customers may be experiencing as a result of KB937287,' wrote White. 'Immediately after receiving reports of this error, we made the decision to temporarily suspend automatic distribution of the update to avoid further customer impact while we investigate possible causes.'"
>Nice White, Microsoft product manager...
...and videotape his unedited response?
Could some please inform Dave Chapelle of this person's name?
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What happened to problems with KB938371? Their little Windows Update updater that paves the way for the SP1 update is causing big problems here where I work- I'm looking at 3 machines right now that it's refusing to install on.
If they imagine Vista to be a horrible cancer, and SP1 to be chemotheraphy, then this all seems better. Sure, it's going to make some sick and die, but for a few, it's going to be a cure for their problems. I say let it out and let people take their chances.
I saw this on the firehose last night and it confused me then, it should have been edited.
The problem is not SP1, but rather an update for Windows Update/installation that is being installed in anticipation of SP1 next month. It's a required upgrade to run SP1, but it is not SP1 itself.
Poor Microsoft...why can't they seem to get things right from the beginning? With all that money and power, they should be able to develope higher quality software. It just doesn't make sense why they wouldn't or can't.
What burns even more is that the MS Product Manager's real name is Nick. It was a typo.
KB943899 plays havoc with laptops with misconfigured AHCI devices as well. This isn't reduced performance or anything trival like that; we're talking about full blown "cannot find boot device" BSODs on reboot.
I had to turn off automatic updates to stop the update from installing.
Looks like a case of autocorrection by the MS Word spellcheck to me. ;-p
As regards the last Vista-SP1-related-problem article, I found this that mentions said problem and how to solve it, if anyone needs that.
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They're pulling the service pack because one of the pre-requisite patches you need to install before the service pack can even be applied is causing hard disk errors and requiring re-formats, although you can use the Vista CD to repair those errors, unless you paid for the downloadable version which doesn't come on a CD, and it only affects a minority of users in "unique circumstances" to begin with.
I love these guys.
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So there was a story about TechNet users wanting, and being denied, early access to SP1 -- apparently specifically so they could do battle testing. I don't know much about TechNet, but I'm guessing those are pretty much the most tech-savvy bundle of customers Microsoft can easily assemble. Why did Microsoft decide to skip the public beta phase with a bunch of expert customers with diverse operating environments and go straight to the world at large?
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Note the last paragraph of the article: `According to Microsoft's White: "This problem only affects a small number of customers in unique circumstances."'
I find this a rather incredulous claim considering that in my part-time job providing support to laptop users at my university I had two users with the problem on the same day within an hour of each other. Entirely different laptops, but both fixed with a system restore to before the updates.
of course, the quick fix will be SP1a temporary.
It's NICK White, not NICE white. Typo in the /. write-up.
Don't you mean 1 out of 6?
... I suppose that depends on how you define winning the game. :)
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That's what I hate about Microsoft products. The stupid program assumes you're stupid. The stupid program forces you to do things backwards.
Microsoft seems to design for the developmentally disabled, and does a bad job of even that. And they can't seem to learn from their horrible mistakes. Did they learn from Clippy? Hell no, now they have the stupid dog on their XP search. If you tell the damned thing to gho away it comes back the next time you do a search. Yeah, I could probably google for a hack to fix it but damn it, I shouldn't have to.
Linux never does that shit to me.
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"Yeah, I could probably google for a hack to fix it but damn it, I shouldn't have to.
Linux never does that shit to me."
So true. I've been using Lx since approximately Mandrake 5.1 (ask your dad), and have never had to, um, google up a fix for anything. Nope. Not once. Except of course 3-5 times a week.
NB: it's well worth it to me.
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SP1 was waiting for me this morning as well. I haven't yet installed it though. I have Ultimate 64. For me, stability has never been a concern and I am running an overclocked e8400 with 8gb of RAM. The system is very smooth. I haven't had any problems running games.. and the few games that I have run in DX10 are pretty nice looking compared to their DX9 versions. If you read the rhetoric on Slashdot you'll think Vista is a complete failure. I decided to try Vista for this new build, despite reading this rhetoric, because I knew that a great majority of the Slashdot posters who post about a Microsoft product have not in fact used the product. Slashdot readers are actually more herdlike and less independent than one might think.
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That's completely true and I 100% agree, but you have to consider how utterly computer illiterate so many people are to understand why Microsoft products are so dominant. Many people are stupid when it comes to computers.
Oh, and you can turn Clippy off.
Vista doesn't even have the dumb thing.
I, too, have 8GB of RAM in my home desktop, but only 2GB in my home laptop. Both run Vista quite well. Why 8GB? Tons and tons of VMware virtual machines running all the time for testing. I doubt that the original poster was implying that Vista requires 8GB of RAM!
I use a dvorak keyboard, you insensitive clod!
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ask your dad
My dad's 76 years old and never used a computer in his life. My first computer was a Timex/Sinclair 1000 I bought when I was about 30, around the time the IBM PC came out.
I've been using Mandrake/iva since eight point something, and yes I've googled, and asked slashdotters, but that's the price of Linux. If I can't get decent documentation and ease of use, what's the point in spending all that money?
DOS came on one floppy, and its manual was an inch and a half thick. Windows comes on a CD and its manual (if you can call it that) is about thirty pages IIRC.
If I bought Mandriva at a store (If I could I would but I can't find it for sale anywhere) I wouldn't expect to google for a fix then, either. If it wasn't in a manual I'd call their tech support, and bitch about the shitty manual while I was on the line with them.
All software sucks, all software has always sucked, but it shouldn't. Maybe sometime in the future it won't.
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For a couple of months two years ago, I was troubled by a noise that my XP laptop would make.... sometimes. Shuuck-Shuuck. Like a slow camera shutter.
I searched my system and google in vain of finding what this was.
Then one day I had the search window open and sitting on top of the desktop and I looked at it at just the right time. There was the answer.
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It's a sad state of affairs when your service pack needs a service pack. What ever happened to quality control?!?
WTF? This morning my Windows update pushed KB936330, "Windows Vista Service Pack 1 for x64-based systems". Was this a mistake, or has SP1 for Vista-64 been released to the public?