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South Park To Be Available Online Free and Legal

garnetlion writes "South Park is coming online, free and legal. My brief research has not indicated if it will use DRM, require some silly Windows-only software or be otherwise substandard. According to a Wired blog article, 'Parker and Stone said they were inspired to start the site when they got 'really sick of having to download our own show illegally all the time. So we gave ourselves a legal alternative.'" In this regard South Park joins fellow Comedy Central notable The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, whose archive was made freely available online late last year.

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  1. Illegally? by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But they literally have the right to copy their own show (that's the meaning of copyright) so how is it illegal for them? And how is DRM free?

    1. Re:Illegally? by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not sure how their particular deal works, but I think if Comedy Central actually owns the show they make, then they could have actually been criminally breaking the copyright of their own employers and in theory could be sued for it. IANAL, etc.

    2. Re:Illegally? by boguslinks · · Score: 5, Informative

      Dont' assume they have the copyright to the show just because they're the creative guys behind it. When Arthur C. Clarke reprinted a chapter from 2001: A Space Odyssey in the sequel novel, he had to get permission from the publisher of 2001.

    3. Re:Illegally? by snowraver1 · · Score: 5, Informative

      They don't own it, Viacom owns it.

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    4. Re:Illegally? by zappepcs · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The point is that they and everyone else has no 'legal' way to download it and watch. They are siding with john q. here. If there is no legal way, then everything else must be illegal.

      It's not like South Park and The Daily Show are shows that no one has ever heard of before, so it's good to see that mainstream content producers are in agreement with pretty much all the consumers of that content. I hope that it catches on, and with widespread attention in the MSM. There is nothing like some very popular people telling the world that *Hey, this should not be illegal!* to get the ball rolling.

      I'm sure there will be more support for such activity when the RIAA finally admits they wasted all the money from the Napster case suing grannies and basically ruining all the good will that the recording industry ever had. Not many artists will continue to support that kind of stupidity when it gets rubbed in their face harshly like that.

      woot! I'd like to see an entire network follow suit... say SciFi or Commedy Central or you pick... but one whole network that just says fuck it, lets let them download the stuff...

    5. Re:Illegally? by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

      He's not just sure, He's HIV positive.

    6. Re:Illegally? by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 2, Funny

      Whether it's tacit or explicit approval, everybody wins. Hell, even Microsoft is "cool" sometimes, right?

    7. Re:Illegally? by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'm sure there will be more support for such activity when the RIAA finally admits they wasted all the money from the Napster case suing grannies and basically ruining all the good will that the recording industry ever had. Not many artists will continue to support that kind of stupidity when it gets rubbed in their face harshly like that.


      What good will has the recording industry ever had? Between the manipulation and outright theft from artists to the foisting of crap pseudo-artists to maintain product flow through to the ripping off of the consumer, the record industry has been notorious for decades. This latest "fuck you" to the consumer is perfectly in line with an industry that has long held everybody save the shareholder in absolute contempt.
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    8. Re:Illegally? by Freeside1 · · Score: 2, Funny

      He's no longer Flamebait, but a Troll.
      That makes me a saaad panda.

    9. Re:Illegally? by trolltalk.com · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, but making it legal to download will take all the fun out of it ...

    10. Re:Illegally? by Artuir · · Score: 4, Informative

      I hate to burst your bubble but south park's creators have had this stuff up on their site for weeks. The summary makes it seem like it will happen soon but in reality all of the episodes have been viewable before now.

    11. Re:Illegally? by HolyCrapSCOsux · · Score: 5, Funny

      If it's the same orange pen I got, it summed up vista and office 2k7 nicely:
      it looked like a fairly standard retractable ballpoint. It had features that were pretty but pointless (led lights) that were activated using the interface (clicker at the end) that is normally reserved for the pen tip Hide/Unhide function. To Unhide the pen tooltip, you had to turn the barrel (requiring both hands). Making it twice as difficult to use as opposed to it's implied functionality.

      Furthermore, it crapped out on me halfway through the keynote.

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    12. Re:Illegally? by WNight · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And before that (and still ongoing) is paying off stations to play the music the studios want, not whatever the station wanted.

      Controlling retail channels was the scummiest. I don't care if you sell anything, but don't specifically handicap my ability to sell a competing product. There's competition and there's abuse of monopoly.

    13. Re:Illegally? by deanlandolt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not sure how their particular deal works, but I think if Comedy Central actually owns the show they make, then they could have actually been criminally breaking the copyright of their own employers and in theory could be sued for it. IANAL, etc. Wow -- it's all almost as illogical as academia, where professors have to beg permission from publishers to distribute their own works to students. Almost.
    14. Re:Illegally? by Gewalt · · Score: 2, Funny

      I had the same situation last time I went to a M$ event. Mine was silver, with loads of blue LEDs in the clear barrel. Clicking the clicker on the back would change the pattern of the lights blinking. You had to click about 20 to turn the damn thing off. Also, the pen died before the conference was even over. (I only took about a page of notes..) But I never did realize the parallels between that pen and microsofts products... thanks for that.

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    15. Re:Illegally? by edwdig · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wow -- it's all almost as illogical as academia, where professors have to beg permission from publishers to distribute their own works to students. Almost.

      It's the same exact thing. The author gives the publisher some or all rights to their work in exchange for money and/or royalties. If they have a problem with it, they should have negotiated for more rights.

    16. Re:Illegally? by jtev · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're getting the Data Center pens. Not as pretty as the ones for the unwashed masses, but at least they work, most of the time.

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    17. Re:Illegally? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, but making it legal to download will take all the fun out of it ...
      And what will happen to Mr Twig dot net? He's been my go-to site for South Park for a long time and I'm not going to abandon him just because Comedy Central or Viacom or Haliburton says I can "get it from them" now.

      Have to be careful here. Just because Comedy Central does something that's in their own best interest does not suddenly make them "cool". They are still "the man" and I'm still planning to stick it to them, dude.
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    18. Re:Illegally? by ajcham · · Score: 2, Interesting

      00s seems fine - but only when written.

      Personally I'd rather waste my breath on a phrase like 'the first decade of the twenty-first century' than use a god-awful term like 'the noughties' [shudder].

  2. More free, legal TV online by DogDude · · Score: 5, Informative

    Just discovered last week... NBC has the entire season 4 of The Office online, watchable in full screen, with traditional TV-like ads interrupting the shows. Of course, nobody likes ads, but it's worth it to me, at least, and I'm glad to see some of the old-school media companies like NBC FINALLY starting to "get it".

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    1. Re:More free, legal TV online by garett_spencley · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Just discovered last week... NBC has the entire season 4 of The Office online"

      OMG ... that's almost as good as if Paramount were to offer Star Trek V for free download.

      *crosses fingers*

    2. Re:More free, legal TV online by an.echte.trilingue · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Yeah, but having seen Comedy Central's other offerings (Colbert Report and the Daily Show), I am skeptical. Take two sites:
      • The Official Colbert Report site is slow, experiences frequent outages, has mediocre quality video, crashes several major browsers after 10-20 minutes of viewing, and shows you the same add every two and a half minutes. On the plus side, it looks pretty.
      • The pirate south park site is slow, experiences frequent outages and has mediocre quality video. However, the shows are easy to browse and the adds are limited to things outside of the viewer window (and are blockable).
      From my perspective, the choice is clear here. I am sure that Comedy Central will do a worse job than the pirates did. It will be just like when they got Colbert off of YouTube and replaced it with something worse.

      The media companies are really slow to learn: the Internet gives them a potential gold mine, they just have to come up with a way to deliver their wares that sucks less than what Joe up the street can do. So far, they fail, Comedy Central and Viacom included.
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    3. Re:More free, legal TV online by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      And miss out on the William Shatner commentary track that's on the DVD? No way, dude!

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    4. Re:More free, legal TV online by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Star Trek V? Didn't the numbering go 1, 2, 3, 4, 6? You must be joking about this "5" thing.

    5. Re:More free, legal TV online by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Reminds me of when Fox started cracking down on YouTube and claiming that Hulu would make up for it. There was a time when you could find virtually every episode and skit from Family Guy on YouTube. Now Fox's great legal alternative, that was supposed to be everything YouTube wasn't, offers a grand total 3 lousy episodes. Whoopty fucking do.

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    6. Re:More free, legal TV online by Sancho · · Score: 2, Informative

      You forgot to put the word keep in quotation marks.

      If it's DRMed, you don't get to keep it. You get to watch it until the content provider decrees that you can't anymore.

    7. Re:More free, legal TV online by Mex · · Score: 4, Informative

      " I am sure that Comedy Central will do a worse job than the pirates did. It will be just like when they got Colbert off of YouTube and replaced it with something worse."

      Did you even bother to check the South Park site? It's really good, actually.

      Full episodes, 3 segments per episode and usually one ad per segment. You can fast forward or back if you want and you don't get another advert.

      All seasons from the beginning at pretty good quality (not DVD but very good for online), except for the most recent season which apparently needs 1 month to be shown.

    8. Re:More free, legal TV online by Altima(BoB) · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...But what does God need with a download service?

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  3. Well, link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://www.southparkstudios.com/

    Works fine with Mozilla, etc. I believe it's flash.

    1. Re:Well, link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Chokes with Linux / Firefox. It works fine on Ubuntu Gutsy. I've watched several episodes there over the last week.

      I hate flash video on Linux, though. When the hell is Adobe finally get Flash using accelerated video? It's ridiculous when my processor usage jumps to 99% whenever I try to watch a tiny flash video, where VLC doesn't even hit 10% doing h.264 720p fullscreen using XVideo out.
    2. Re:Well, link by Schnapple · · Score: 3, Funny

      Blocked By Websense

      Reason: The Web category "Tasteless" is filtered.

      Wow, I wonder how something gets listed as tasteless?

    3. Re:Well, link by Kalriath · · Score: 2, Funny

      The answer is here.

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  4. Obligatory by OverlordQ · · Score: 5, Funny

    First (Cat) Piss.

    Now we'll see which mods have seen s12e03 yet.

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    1. Re:Obligatory by Hatta · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I haven't seen it, but I heard about it. That's just too much. Cat Piss (CP) has been a running joke on drug sites for years. There even used to be an Erowid spoof, the Vaults of Meowid, complete with information about a supposed tryptophan derivitive 5-MeO-W. I've got to wonder, have Trey and Matt been visiting the Shroomery much?

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    2. Re:Obligatory by spun · · Score: 4, Informative

      I worked with Matt & Trey's web production team on an online video game store back in 2000. I met them and hung out a few times. They were dosed to the gills that year at the Oscars.

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  5. You bastards! by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Funny

    really sick of having to download our own show illegally all the time. They just admitted to piracy! Don't these two guys know that such a thoughtless criminal act takes the very food out of the mouths of.. um.. these two guys?
    1. Re:You bastards! by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 4, Funny

      If they have any respect for America at all, they'll do the right thing and take themselves to court.

    2. Re:You bastards! by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 3, Funny
  6. "Oh my God... by LM741N · · Score: 5, Funny

    they killed DRM! You bastards!"

  7. Wrong tense. by The-Bus · · Score: 4, Informative

    The episodes are already online. Not "coming soon", not "to be"... you can see them right now.

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    1. Re:Wrong tense. by Ruke · · Score: 2, Informative

      Parent beat me to it. I know that my roommate's been watching South Park online for at least a week now...

    2. Re:Wrong tense. by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

      The episodes are already online. Not "coming soon", not "to be"... you can see them right now.

      Not "to be", eh? Well I guess that finally answer that question.

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    3. Re:Wrong tense. by Creepy+Crawler · · Score: 4, Informative

      Whether or not you should commit suicide.

      That's the soliloquy of "kill myself or not".

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    4. Re:Wrong tense. by Azarael · · Score: 4, Informative

      They aren't available in Canada (and elsewhere?) yet.

    5. Re:Wrong tense. by Pazy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Even worse when I tried to watch it said 'sorry england' now im pissed cause im Scottish and in Scotland :( lol

    6. Re:Wrong tense. by Suddenly_Dead · · Score: 4, Informative

      Alas, non-Americans get this screen, or a variation thereof.

    7. Re:Wrong tense. by Daas · · Score: 2, Informative

      Even better, you can get free online episodes of South Park, the Daily Show and the Colbert Report legally on

      www.thecomedynetwork.ca

    8. Re:Wrong tense. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Do you mean "pissed" in the American-English sense or in the British-English sense? Because both seem entirely plausible for a Scot.

    9. Re:Wrong tense. by Joe+U · · Score: 2, Funny

      If the average Slashdot user doesn't know how to bypass a country restriction anymore then we have a very serious problem here.

  8. laxity by esocid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't think Viacom was really strict about SP being online to begin with. I remember countless websites offering SP episodes for free, many of which were crappy websites, but were around for quite some time. I haven't frequented them in some time but I don't ever recall hearing any outburst from Viacom about SP being made freely available. It is commendable for Matt and Trey to come out and get Viacom to actually put it in writing that it is free online (via their website) but I still don't see any other sites getting hammered b/c of what they do. Another win for freely available content. Now if only they would host Cannibal! The Musical.

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  9. Censored Mohammad episode by crow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Remember after the Mohammad cartoon panic, the episode where they were making a big deal that they were going to show Mohammad? The end where they were going to show him was apparently censored by Comedy Central. Is it cut in the online version?

    1. Re:Censored Mohammad episode by Shados · · Score: 2, Interesting

      hmm? I always thought that the censoring by the network was PART of the joke...

    2. Re:Censored Mohammad episode by bogjobber · · Score: 2, Informative

      They have showed images of Mohammad uncensored before in the Super Best Friends episode. It was before the Danish cartoon controversy while the Cartoon Wars episode was after, so I'm not sure if Comedy Central actually censored the cartoon or it was a political statement or joke.

    3. Re:Censored Mohammad episode by mecenday · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No. They gave an interview on the Penn Jillette radio show where they were basically daring Comedy Central to allow them to run it with uncensored images of Mohamed. The execs said, "no way, no how, and if you present us with an uncensored copy, we will butcher it ourselves." The guys decided to cut it in a way that would actually be funny.

      So, though the version that was run was a Trey and Matt creation, it was under threat of censorship.

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    4. Re:Censored Mohammad episode by Schnapple · · Score: 2, Informative

      hmm? I always thought that the censoring by the network was PART of the joke...
      Sort of. Basically, the SP guys wanted to make an episode about the Muhammad illustration controversy and when Comedy Central caught wind of it, they said they wouldn't allow the image Muhammad to be displayed in the show. So, Matt & Trey expanded the notion to basically be a story-within-a-story where in the show the characters were blasting the Fox network for refusing to show the image in an episode of Family Guy whereas in reality, Comedy Central was refusing to show the image in an episode of South Park. The producers hoped that the weeklong stint between the episodes would coerce Comedy Central into changing its mind, and they fought with the network right up until the night the second part was aired, but ultimately Comedy Central chose note to display the image.

      The whole incident is similar to how the outcry over the content of the 1999 South Park movie paralleled the outcry over the contents of the Terrence and Phillip movie within the South Park movie.
  10. no drm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    it's a flash based web player. there's no drm. same deal with all the new video from mtv networks. flash players, no windows stuff, etc.

    * i work for mtv networks doing video syndication, so i'm posting anonymously.

    1. Re:no drm by Mavakoy · · Score: 2, Informative

      It also doesn't work in England, with a "Sorry England. Full episodes coming soon" screen...

      And from the URL, it'll probably not work in other countries either.

    2. Re:no drm by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      it's a flash based web player. there's no drm. same deal with all the new video from mtv networks. flash players, no windows stuff, etc. So, if there is no DRM, does that mean the various video downloaders can save a copy in the clear to the user's hard disk?
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  11. Re:Is this really new? by BlackCreek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I thought that's what www.southparkzone.com was for?

    My thoughts exactly. I have been (legally) downloading South Park from the web for some months now.

    I've seen slashdot publishing old news many times, but this is the first time (I can recall) that I see it posting old news that I had read about in a "normal" newspaper.

  12. Re:Unless you are in Canada by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 3, Funny

    I knew they'd blame this on Canada!

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  13. Re:Daily Show "Archive" by irishdaze · · Score: 3, Informative

    Go here: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml. Slide the slider to a date to get the Episode Number that aired on that date. Type that Episode Number in the Search box. The episode will be there in clips. For example, I went there: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml, slid the slider to March 20, 2008. The first clip in the results showed it was Episode 13039. I then typed "13039" (no quotes) in the Search box. Voila! 5 clips were displayed. I added up all of the running times, and it was 18 minutes, 59 seconds, which seems to me to be about right for a 30-minute show (shy of commercials and non-informational transitions).

    It's not the 1/2-hour unbroken stream you want, but it's there.

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  14. Informative? Huh? by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 4, Informative
    I know many of you don't rtfa, but sheesh, you had to have at least seen the summary, you know, the first story thingy at the top of this page...

    The very first thing after "garnetlion writes" is that very same "informative" link.

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  15. I downloaded it 20 minutes after it was broadcast. by Joce640k · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...at about 600kb a second.

    That's the kind of service the studios should be aiming for if they want people to subscribe to something. It shouls also cost about $0.10 - that's what it would cost me on cable and I don't see why Internet is really much different, BitTorrent means I'm paying the bandwidth fees myself.

    When that's set up they might have a chance of getting me to "do the decent thing". Anything else is a ripoff.

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  16. Re:Microsoft Points by hachete · · Score: 2, Funny

    If you're paying for high res South Park, I have a nice, shiny bridge to sell you

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  17. They don't mind by Apoorv+Khatreja · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have been watching South Park since the first season aired on Comedy Central. But then I got bored of waiting for a new episode every week, so I waited for a lot of episodes to pile up and then downloaded them off BitTorrent. Next, I found a site called southparkx.net, which offered news on South Park and offered episode downloads.

    Their FAQs said that "Matt and Trey do not mind when fans download their episodes off the Internet; they feel that its good when people watch the show no matter how they do it." I felt good when I heard this, not because they legalised what I was doing, but because they made a truly great show and didn't believe in all the evil copyright laws.

    Now, when they have offered a service to watch full episodes online, and to make small clips from episodes embeddable, I am a bigger South Park fan than ever.

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  18. Re:USA only... by Tranzistors · · Score: 2, Informative

    Strange, it works ok in Latvia. Maybe they hate British in life as much as in series?

  19. Re:How is this different? by edwdig · · Score: 2, Informative

    This is legal, South Park Zone isn't.

  20. Re:How is this different? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is legal, South Park Zone isn't.
    Funny, South Park zone doesn't look illegal.

    And that's a problem with the entire intellectual property battle. Batting an old woman over the head and taking her purse is clearly, to anyone with a conscience, illegal and wrong. Clicking a link on South Park Zone doesn't look or feel or act any different than clicking a link on Comedy Central Zone, so how is the average person supposed to come to the decision that it's "wrong"?

    It's like the old question about how someone is supposed to instinctively know copying a Music CD is illegal when the same company that makes the Music CD also makes and sells blank CDs for copying?
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  21. Re:US only.. by skerit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Right, instead of really saying "it's free - here it is!" they still have to impose some stupid rules. Stop creating virtual boundaries!! To me it goes against everything the internet stands for (*drama*)