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African Americans and the Video Game Industry

An anonymous reader writes "African Americans spend more money and time playing video games than whites, yet only 2% of game developers are black. This past week, MTV's Multiplayer blog interviewed five black game industry professionals for their perspective on race in the industry. Intelligent Gamer summarizes and highlights portions of this lengthy series of interviews."

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  1. Is this really surprising? by pokerdad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Isn't this the natural result of the socio-econic situation of said racial group in the US, the high cost of college in the US, and the fact that most employers in said industry want a college degree?

    1. Re: Is this really surprising? by PAKnightPA · · Score: 5, Insightful
      I would disagree. I think you imply that listening to music about "rape, robbery, murder, and obscene materialism (bling bling)" makes one desire to drop out of school, join a gang, etc. This is not true. For example, A very large portion of my music library is this kind of music. I personally like it a lot. I would go so far as to call some of Dr. Dre's work classic. Yet I attend an elite university, and certainly wouldn't ever think of committing violent felonies.

      What you are saying is the same thing Jack Thompson says about violent video games. Rap music doesn't turn you into a gangbanger any more than playing Counter Strike trains you to be a violent killer. Frankly, I am surprised you were modded up by the same people who would probably mod you way down if you were agreeing with Mr Thompson. Oh well...

    2. Re:Is this really surprising? by Starrk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh and if you believe gangster rap causes a lot of real-life violence, I hope you believe many video games also cause real-life violence. After all, both claims are based on the same "logic".

  2. Re:Yes please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm "african american", even though I was never alive in africa. I also develop games and program as a hobby.

    The funny thing about the geeks of my generation, is that most of us don't really care about race. You're a noob if you don't know how to recompile your kernel, not because you happened to be born a specific hue.

    Didn't everyone get the memo that the media doesn't really represent the people anymore? There isn't much to get over.

  3. here we go again by EllynGeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Racism, just like sexism, is so deeply ingrained in most people they're totally blind to it, and even worse, are just like the first commenters to this article- self-centered clueless twits who would rather die than listen to a different point of view, especially from someone pointing out a problem or trying to correct a wrong. (I have to wonder why y'all take it so personally, and always twitch like a gaffed fish when these subjects come up? Guilty conscience?) Nobody is asking for racial quotas, though there is always at least one guaranteed slashtwit to bring it up. Most of us would settle for you fine members of the "there is no problem, just quit whining" club to shut up and keep out of our way, instead of filling the heavens with your complaining over the audacity of anyone who has been mistreated to actually stand up for him or herself, and try to make some changes.

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  4. Re:Who cares? by Dr.+Cody · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't know, but there was a Danish documentary on the subject.

  5. Stop with this racial coddling by DigitAl56K · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I don't want to read one more article about how african american people are under represented in this, that, or the other. It makes me angry even to see such headlines because yes racism exists but we only fuel racism by carving out sectors of society by race and speaking to how disadvantaged they are. Why are we not discussing how there are too few Indian characters in modern-day computer games, or Phillipino's, or any other race? Because blacks are a racial crux that we like to fall back on and discuss whenever matters of race and equality come into play.

    I personally work with people of all races from all over the world, and though I can't say I have absolutely no prejudices whatsoever I certainly do not consciously discriminate against anyone because of their ethnicity. And I think a very large percentage of the current/next generation are the same - we're growing up in multi-cultural environments with mixed ethnicity and we're learning to value our differences rather than look on them negatively. It is the older generation who still wants to talk about the past, who still wants to talk about stereotyping and martyrdom. TFA does nothing to break from the conventional mold, and it's infuriating to me.

    In college [Computer Science] courses, I was typically one of maybe four black students, and I was certainly the only black female. In the industry, the makeup is pretty much the same. It's intimidating at times. I'm one of a handful, but I don't let these things hold me back. It's intimidating at times? Is it really? Were you singled out at college, or because you were too aware psychologically of your ethnicity did you single yourself out and limit your interactions between the other black students? Today, do your coworkers look at you funny when you walk down the hallway? Does the conversation stop at the water cooler when you arrive? Do you have to use a specially designated bathroom? No. Why is it intimidating? It's intimidating because you are all too aware of your race and concern yourself with the possibility of prejudice, not because it necessarily exists.

    On counting the number of black women at GDC: "The grand total was six, including myself, and I hear that [the Game Developers Conference] had an attendance of over 18,000 this year." And how many white women were there? I hazard a guess at not too many, based on the industries history of mainly male developers. Yes, women are still under-represented in certain industries, too. But if they work as hard as men and are equally qualified over time the situation finds a more natural balance.

    I think a lot of folks are just now starting to see it as a career choice. Young people are starting to realize that game development is something you can make a real living at. It's not like running off to join the circus. There are curriculums that are centered specifically around it, and the industry is looking for talent above all else. A-ha! Some intelligence. There may not be a lot of african american developers because we're only now promoting it to those teens as a viable career choice!

    I could go on. If we want to end racial bias and under representation, I support the free market model: Provide people equal opportunities not by artificially advantaging one group above another or by continually highlighting racial under-representation, but through a good education across all people, and simply let things work themselves out over time. The problem will obviously not go away tomorrow, but does that really mean we have to keep highlighting it today, over and over, repeating the same old talking points?
  6. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And yes, "African-American" is a downright stupid appellation. Can you call a black child born in Denmark "African-American"? Oblig Maddox. Read and agree, or read and be wrong.
  7. What a crock of **** by Viol8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "programmers typically seem to be socially-stunted and have personality and mental issues"

    Who modded this crap insighful? Where did you get that , Cliched Quotes R Us? I know plenty of coders who are perfectly normal people , in fact I don't think I've ever met one who was the alleged stereotype aspergers and I only ever met one who I'd have called socially stunted.

    "In comparison, most black people and women I've come across, tend to be more outgoing and sociable."

    Women tend to be more outgoing than men. Black people ? It varies just as much as whites or asians. Are you just making this up as you go along? sounds to me like you've never mixed with anyone and are just going by the lyrics on your Craig David albums,

    "because there are a lot more interesting things to do in this world if you don't mind interacting with regular people."

    Yeah , like not posting trite made up crap you pulled out of your arse on slashdot.

  8. The take on GTA by IorDMUX · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So "GTA III," -- a Mafioso stereotype with a huge amount of cinema fiction to support that. It's sort of a cultural joke. We all know that Italians aren't like that but we know Mafioso gangsters are. Do we remove race from it? No, they're just gangsters. "Vice City" is just '80s "Miami Vice." So even with the Cubanos and Latinos we know all Cubanos aren't like that. "San Andreas" gets scary because it's basically what people think black people are.
    So... he's saying that blatant stereotypes are okay, as long as they are not of black people? Am I missing something?

    I've seen all three games. I'm Italian. My wife is Latina. And I'm not offended by any of it. But this interviewer seems to be saying that my lack of offense is because there is some fundamental difference in the race portrayals... I thought it was that I can choose to be offended or to be entertained by any of these blatant, joking, stereotypes.

    I don't get it.
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  9. Not enough white's in rap music by Maestro485 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Made up statistic:

    Despite the fact that a large percentage of rap music fans are white, only about 2% actually produce rap music! Seriously, who the hell cares? Some people like products of different cultures, whether music or games or anything else. This is a good thing.
  10. Re:Who cares? by Tony+Hoyle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's no such thing. They'd be called Danish.

    Only the US has a peculiar obsession with separating its population into ethnic groups.

  11. Re:Who cares? by jmpeax · · Score: 5, Insightful

    blocks of people in your country who have a separate culture and separate rules that they want to live by And what culture/rules do the people labelled as African Americans live by?

    Classifying people in such a way doesn't make sense. The only thing you can generalise about African Americans is that their skin is black. Grouping them into a sub-culture based on their ethnicity is really stupid, and a testament to the persisting prejudice that runs through the US. This is a perfect example of modern, widely practised, racism.
  12. Re:Yes please by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Saturation, not hue. Everyone's skin is pretty close to the same hue, but the amount of melanin changes the saturation, making it lighter or darker. This has interesting consequences for computer vision, and is also pretty much entirely offtopic.

  13. Re:Who cares? by Moridineas · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Only the US has a peculiar obsession with separating its population into ethnic groups. Wow, that's utterly insane. Please, what country are you from? Would you care to describe how your country is different? Heck, anything to support your statement would be nice.

    Since Denmark was mentioned, maybe you should read some news--there have been some major riots and political happenings there over religion/race within the past month!

    I'm by no means claiming the US is perfect--it's not. But look at Australia--beach riots a year or two ago over Muslims. Look at France--ghettoization and discontent from Muslim/African populations that is hard to find an equivalent of in America in the last several decades. Balkans--banned from soccer matches for racist taunts. Chinese--discrimination against Uighur and Tibetan citizens. And where I've come across the most openly racist (against black Africans) people--Egypt. People don't even pretend.

    Hell, if there is one constant across the world it's racism..

    FWIW, I've heard Cuba actually has a remarkably egalitarian society--at least with regards to race--but it's so hard to hear reliable things about Cuba that I don't know..
  14. Re:Who cares? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I work with a guy that's African. Came to US for college straight from Ghana.

    He has no problem being called black.

    He also has no problem walking into bars declaring: "Where are da white wimmen at?". He thinks this (and the whole movie) is hilarious.

    Only once did we run into trouble. Some 2nd generation+ born in America African descendants decided he wasn't "African enough". Some native tongue (No clue what it was) and some bouncers quickly ended that.

  15. Re:Who cares? by Ambidisastrous · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fact: Black activists in the 1960s started calling themselves "African-American" instead of Negro in order to connect their fight for civil rights to the various independence movements in Africa happening at the same time. It caught on more over time. Malcolm X noted the term in his autobiography.

    The term "African-American"

  16. Re:Who cares? by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And I'm a white guy who was born in Africa and is now an American citizen. I have no problem referring to myself as African-American just to see the look on a person's face. Or being called white, or telling American born blacks who refer to themselves as African-Americans that they aren't 'African' enough.

    I don't know that I've vocalized it but I've often wondered where the white women were at when I walked into a bar.

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