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Duke Nukem Forever Preview On Jace Hall Show

An anonymous reader writes "The Jace Hall Show launched today on Sony's Crackle with a real gameplay preview of Duke Nukem Forever. Jace Hall is a former video game producer and Warner Bros exec and apparently this is his foray into online celebrity. DNF is 12 years in development ... it might be real after all." And if you have had enough self-indulgent gaming-news patter, another reader says "If you want to simply skip right ahead, it's about 4:20 in."

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  1. DNF cannot be completed by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Never. Because it will bomb.

    Why? What if it's good? Doesn't matter. It can't live up to the expectations. However good it may be, somewhere in the resume there will be the line "well, it has X, but after Y years of waiting, you could expect something more than just Z, and they could have taken that extra months to iron out the W".

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    1. Re:DNF cannot be completed by Rams�s+Morales · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It will never live up to the expectations, but if it is good and fun, people will buy it. But I guess that no game can be profitable after 12 years of development.

    2. Re:DNF cannot be completed by teknopurge · · Score: 5, Funny

      They actually said what they've been doing in the video: hookers, cocaine and getting level 70 WoW characters. Exactly what I would expect of Duke's R&D staff....

    3. Re:DNF cannot be completed by Apathist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      though in all actuality it probably wasn't that bad... No, it's OK, it really was that bad.

      It's one thing to have things teleporting into a room when you first arrive there (a la Doom 1), but it is entirely another thing to have some monster waiting in some tiny, undetectable compartment, ignoring you until you've walked past it exactly 7 times. The irrationality of such rubbish spoiled the immersion, and thus the game...
    4. Re:DNF cannot be completed by Sitnalta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Team Fortress 2 was in development hell for 9 years. Not only did it live up to the expectations, it exceeded them.

      Sometimes extremely long development phases are due to the company making the best damned product they possibly can and not accepting second rate. Anybody can shit out a video game in a few years, but it takes a long time to make something that's truly good. Especially if the developer wants to make something that's fun to play and has interesting visuals. Instead of just FPS #54936-B

    5. Re:DNF cannot be completed by inKubus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, I've had hallucinations at 4:20 before.

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    6. Re:DNF cannot be completed by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But I guess that no game can be profitable after 12 years of development. They could update Duke Nukem 3D & Shadow Warrior to run on the new engine.

      Toss them in a box and charge $10~$25 for the pair of games.
      Offer $5 off if you buy it with DN: Forever
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    7. Re:DNF cannot be completed by budgenator · · Score: 4, Interesting

      yeah that sounds good. Games are like computers, every time you think you've got the optimum price to performance ratio, there a new breakthrough so you start over refactor for the new tech. There is a saying "The road to failure is paved with perfection, The road to success is paved with good-enough".

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    8. Re:DNF cannot be completed by Propaganda13 · · Score: 5, Funny

      So you're the guy who bought Daikatana.

    9. Re:DNF cannot be completed by PMBjornerud · · Score: 4, Funny

      They actually said what they've been doing in the video: hookers, cocaine and getting level 70 WoW characters. Exactly what I would expect of Duke's R&D staff.... Hookers and cocaine, sure. But what the hell were they doing playing WoW???
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    10. Re:DNF cannot be completed by xtracto · · Score: 4, Funny

      They actually said what they've been doing in the video: hookers, cocaine and getting level 70 WoW characters. Exactly what I would expect of Duke's R&D staff....
      Yeah, in fact, forget the video game.

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  2. Like fake boobs... by porkmusket · · Score: 5, Funny

    If I can play with em, they're real. I can't play DNF, so it's not.

    1. Re:Like fake boobs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      So, you implying that all boobs are fake?
      I mean, this is slashdot and most of the people here have never played with real 3D boobs since being breastfed...

    2. Re:Like fake boobs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The boobs are a lie.

  3. vaporware until it's in my hands by wizardforce · · Score: 5, Funny

    Great, if we do actually get to see Duke Nukem forever for sure... in our hands... what will replace the ever popular Duke Nukem Forever vaporware meme? Spore?

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    1. Re:vaporware until it's in my hands by crackp1pe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We've always got HURD and WinFS.

  4. Last time I checked by Centurix · · Score: 5, Funny

    My cubicle is a steady 23C, hell certainly hasn't frozen over yet.

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    1. Re:Last time I checked by maxume · · Score: 4, Funny

      Cut the cord man!

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  5. Awww... by commodoresloat · · Score: 4, Funny

    And so soon after it made the list.

  6. Better looking than the game. by dollar99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The bikini models are at 5:14 into the video. I'm not kidding.

    1. Re:Better looking than the game. by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 4, Funny

      Only on Slashdot can this be modded as "Informative". :)

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  7. DNF Gameplay revealed! by cptnapalm · · Score: 5, Funny

    Upon entering the final level, you realize that it all looks suspiciously familiar...

    It is the first level!

    The game is an infinite loop!

    You have to play Duke Nukem forever!

    1. Re:DNF Gameplay revealed! by CoolGopher · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damn, I'm going to be all out of bubble gum by then!

  8. Pros and Cons by definate · · Score: 4, Funny

    There are a few pros and cons to releasing Duke Nukem Forever.

    When it is released, we will be able to play Duke Nukem Forever, which by this time, better be awesome!

    However, after it is released we then lose a lot of Duke Nukem Forever jokes. We will have to put thought into what will take its place in Wired News's Vaporware Awards.

    The post-Duke Nukem Forever released world, will be vastly different to what we know today... and that makes me scared.

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  9. Re:Damn swf video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    To be honest, we had a meeting back in 1997 to figure out how to piss off a guy named stormwatch on something called slashdot in the year 2008. We came to the inevitable conclusion that we would have to first invent slashdot work with adobe to develop flash, waste years of development time on Duke nukem forever, then release a video in swf format and post a slashdot story with a link to it. Now all of years of hard work have paid off.

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  10. DNF Advertising Campaign by Renderer+of+Evil · · Score: 5, Funny

    "12 YEARS in the Making"

    "Most Anticipated Game of Last 3 Generations."

    "If You thought Duke Nukem 3D (1996) was good... then HOLD ON TO YOUR COCKS!"

    This will be an amazing hit with people who went into coma a decade ago and the last thing they remember was playing Duke Nukem with their Voodoo 3 card.

    1. Re:DNF Advertising Campaign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Duke3d was software rendered, the voodoo 3 didnt even exist until nearly 4 years later.

      Stop pretending you were allowed to touch daddys pc ;)

  11. Re:A bit let down by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 5, Funny

    At least until the next rewrite.

  12. Re:A bit let down by BiggerBoat · · Score: 5, Informative
    From six months ago:

    Question: what engine is it using? Not bashing at all, just curious.

    Broussard: Unreal. I believe we branched off somewhere around the Unreal 2 time when they added static meshes. Since then we've redone the rendering 100% and it's a fully modern engine.


    So Broussard says they're using the Unreal/Unreal 2 tech, but that they've redone the rendering 100%. Parse that as you will.
    (From http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=50481)
  13. Duke Nukem may live... by Nim82 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...but what about the dopefish?

  14. Repent! by JesseL · · Score: 4, Funny

    The end times are near.

    The release of DNF has been foretold as the final harbinger of the end times. When the Final Duke goes gold, the seventh seal shall be broken and all the gamers shall cry out and lament that their RAM is insufficient and their video cards unworthy.

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  15. Re:Damn swf video by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why don't they use an actual VIDEO format for videos? Those swf-based players are hit and miss, and usually miss.

    Most swf-players play an FLV (either streaming or not). FLV uses H.264 or H.263 (in the recent incarnations). These are the latest and greates codecs. And Flash is less evil than quicktime or realplayer, the other common ways to stream video online.

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  16. Another console game by SpacePunk · · Score: 4, Funny

    On the Phantom, no less.

  17. Re:Flash 9 required. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's no reason to apologize to us, we aren't the ones depriving ourselves by holding to some vacant principle.

  18. Trailers by TheLink · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yeah. I mean look at TF2, they intentionally made it look cartoony.

    Duke Nukem _is_ a cartoony character :). Making the graphics more realistic can be counter productive.

    That said, trailers can be very deceptive, you might have just seen all the best parts and that's it.

    A little bit of editing goes a long way, for example:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmkVWuP_sO0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T5_0AGdFic

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekXxi9IKZSA

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  19. Re:A bit let down by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    See bad guy, shoot, run, see another bad guy, shoot, run.... Which describes an FPS about as well as "Move piece, wait, move piece, wait, move piece, wait..." describes chess. Even in a deathmatch you won't become very good just running around shooting at whatever happens to drop in your sight, and there's plenty game modes that require real cooperation. Try watching a good CTF team and you'll see they don't run around shooting at random any more than a chess player moves pieces at random.
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  20. Re:Funding? by cp.tar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe our interest cannot extend past the demo, because we've actually waited these 12 years.

    I'm 25, so that means I was about 12 when DN3D was popular. Are you honestly saying that the 12-year-olds of today will not buy and play the game regardless of its development history?

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  21. Enough time has passed by 6350' · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oddly enough, a sufficient amount of time has passed to let the ghost of oldschool Duke Nukem fade away. The result is that, much in the same way that TF2 took so freaking long that the people originally looking forward to it grew up, got jobs, had kids, joined the Masons, and died - leaving a largely new batch of people who weren't that familiar with the original context the game arose from. So to with DNF, I suspect. Let's be honest here - the average 22 year old kid who sees a review of DNF on some game site in six months isnt going to have the 12 years of expectation and context that the rest of us might have. The result? I suspect DNF will actually do just fine. We all went from growing expectations over time, to mocking it, to effectively forgetting about it and moving on. DNF is now a game for a new wodge of users, who won't be all that familiar with its history. DNF has gone on long enough that, like TF2, the clock has actually kind of reset.

  22. Re:Damn swf video by spongman · · Score: 4, Informative

    the Jace Hall show, along with all the new content on crackle.com is show with pro equipment and encoded in H.264 - that's why we require a recent build of the flash player. if you have a fast internet connection you can watch the 2Mbps 720p H.264 stream. we think it's some of the best looking video on the web today.

  23. Re:A bit let down by -noefordeg- · · Score: 4, Funny

    Runs everything I throw at it with all the in-game settings maxed. Maxed?
    You forgot to mention that your screen is a 14" LCD at 800x600...