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BMW Introduces GINA Concept Car, Covered In Fabric

smithtuna33 writes "Ever wondered what the metal skin on your car is actually good for? Engineers at BMW have decided that fabric might work just as well. The doors literally peel away from the side of the car, the engine bay opens up down the middle, and pretty much everything (such as headlamps) is hidden until the fabric reveals it. It is a stunning concept that has already been influencing BMW's designs. The video is well worth watching."

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  1. Appropriate name by badboy_tw2002 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'd call a car made out of nice fabrics a 'gina too!

    1. Re:Appropriate name by dotancohen · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'd call a car made out of nice fabrics a 'gina too! A vagina analogy in a car forum! Welcome to dotslash!

      I swear that technology like this is the reason that I am studying to become an engineer. Not only to help design them, which I would love to do, but to afford them when they become available. Expect to see me first in line when this technology becomes available in a consumer vehicle.
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    2. Re:Appropriate name by enoz · · Score: 4, Funny

      A vagina analogy in a car forum! Welcome to dotslash! Actually I'd say it was a car analogy in a forum full of cunts.
    3. Re:Appropriate name by Tmack · · Score: 5, Funny
      Well, they could have redesigned their logo to match, but another company already uses it...

      Tm

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    4. Re:Appropriate name by Moraelin · · Score: 5, Funny

      Reminds me of one of Vince Ebert's jokes. He's a physicist turned commedian. So after explaining relativity a bit, he goes something like, "So the faster something goes, the shorter it gets. Also known as the Porsche Driver Syndrome." ;)

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    5. Re:Appropriate name by Phorion · · Score: 5, Funny

      I wish it was developed by Volkswagen. I'd get into a VWGINA any day.

    6. Re:Appropriate name by L33THa0R69 · · Score: 5, Funny

      That fabric better be seriously waterproof - a moist 'gina could adversely affect handling.

    7. Re:Appropriate name by budgenator · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have many friends in the engineering profession and they all make over $80K, including the engineer at a silicone breast making facility.
      What do they pay quality control :)

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  2. Finally.. by mrbluze · · Score: 5, Funny

    the skinnable car!

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    1. Re:Finally.. by mrbluze · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Just having watched the vid, it's quite a cool concept. Though I can well imagine a jealous walker-by accidentally slashing it with his pocket knife. That would ruin it a bit methinks.

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    2. Re:Finally.. by bruins01 · · Score: 5, Interesting
      What you're suggesting is the fabric analog of getting keyed. I imagine repairing a tear caused by a key, or a pocketknife, or a rock on the freeway, would be a lot less expensive if the repair consists only of replacing a piece of fabric.

      I'm more concerned about security. Would this feature make it easier to break into my car? Would it make it easier to sabotage or steal from my engine? My gas tank?

    3. Re:Finally.. by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Informative
      JThough I can well imagine a jealous walker-by accidentally slashing it with his pocket knife.

      There are already plenty of fabrics which are resistant to casual slashes, and some in the pipeline which are even more durable.

      Vandals can already do a significant amount of damage to a painted metal car body with a knife or even a coin. If the repair costs of the fabric are competitive with metal, it might even reduce costs over the life of the vehicle.

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    4. Re:Finally.. by Zymergy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Great! Now the kids are gonna want designer 'clothes' for their cars.
      A Ralph Lauren skin, or a Prada Skin, and even some of those ludicrous-speed expensive handbags.
      I can see the fashion shows being conducted on *actual* runways.... 'Oh the humanity....

      -I am sure Larry Flynt has some creative ideas for 'skin' designs for his new BMW 'GINA car too... a very slippery slope... LOL (Cool, I just made a Double Entendre!)

    5. Re:Finally.. by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Informative
      And I don't think I've ever encountered ANY fabric that can't be cut with a sharp enough knife

      There are fabrics that can withstand a running chainsaw, and they are in common use.

      Likewise, stab or cut-resistant Vectran fabric is now relatively common. I've worn turn-out gear which is designed to resist that sort of damage, and while it's expensive, it isn't prohibitively so.

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    6. Re:Finally.. by Omestes · · Score: 4, Funny

      They would blend. :/

      Corrected it for you.

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    7. Re:Finally.. by Chrisje · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Didn't anyone RTFA?

      I see a lot of people talking about the sturdiness of said fabric, but noone mentions that it's some space-age stuff they're slapping on there, on a metal frame, laced with carbon for extra strengthening.

      Come on guys! Zee Germans are building the thing! I'm relatively sure they'll deliver a solid product. They *ALWAYS* do.

    8. Re:Finally.. by Muad'Dave · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Vandals can already do a significant amount of damage to a painted metal car body with a knife or even a coin.


      My favorite: Brake fluid. Very passive-agressive. Spray it on, and after a couple of days, the paint just sloughs off. I've never done it on purpose, but I did do it accidentally once 8-(.

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  3. It winked! by mortonda · · Score: 4, Funny

    Any car that winks at you has to be taken seriously... ;)

    1. Re:It winked! by mrbluze · · Score: 5, Funny

      On the youtube link someone posted a comment I had to quote: people dont want a car that feels like a condom. ROFL

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    2. Re:It winked! by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Funny
      people dont want a car that feels like a condom

      BMW drivers do.

      They're all dicks.

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    3. Re:It winked! by A+nonymous+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What's the difference between a porcupine and a BMW?

      The porcupine has its pricks on the outside.

  4. Very cool by tsa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The video is really cool, but was it a real car or a computer model? And I wonder how the fabric behaves at high speeds. And how do you wash the car? I have loads of other questions but I think the concept is fantastic. Cars that can change shape! Mmmmm... :)

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    1. Re:Very cool by mortonda · · Score: 4, Funny

      Gives a new concept to Transformers, doesn't it? They can now wear clothes!

    2. Re:Very cool by Digital+Vomit · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Bumblebee! Put some pants on! I can see your 'Cybertron'!"

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  5. hope they thought this through by immakiku · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So the chassis is still rigid right? Imagine unintentional impacts with external objects. The skin was meant to be protection for the car and driver. Flying rocks, small animals while the car is parked, pranksters, and thieves of engine parts make this not work so well. As well psychologically the driver will feel less protected in this new concept of a fabric skin. Imagine if your house was made out of cardboard... On the other hand I always like making cars lighter. I can see this becoming the norm if all the kinks are worked out.

    1. Re:hope they thought this through by Max+Littlemore · · Score: 5, Funny

      I can see this becoming the norm if all the kinks are worked out.

      It's fabric. The kinks don't get worked out, they get ironed out. Pay attention.

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    2. Re:hope they thought this through by mrbluze · · Score: 4, Funny

      So the chassis is still rigid right? Yes, but after you've had it in overdrive for any length of time it suddenly goes limp for at least 10 minutes.
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    3. Re:hope they thought this through by dlevitan · · Score: 4, Funny

      small animals while the car is parked The car is parked in a driveway. A cat jumps onto the hood expecting a nice warm sunny place. Next thing it knows, the hood opens up, swallows the cat, the car emits a nice burp, and your gas tank increases by a few gallons. Sounds good to me :).
  6. Skin-schmin by LoudMusic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    First off it's a concept vehicle. The point is to try new things, good or bad, to see how it works.

    Moving forward, the skin of this car is almost purely for aerodynamic effect. There is a certain amount of visual additive, and it keeps the wind and dirt off the occupants. In reference to other mechanical value, there are plenty of cars which have no skin at all and are faster than pretty much any other production road going vehicle. Ariel's Atom, to name one. Cars don't need skins. Hell, look at motorcycles. The passengers aren't even contained in the vehicle!

    I think it's an awesome idea. Of course, my current roadster is paint chipped all to hell and being able to replace body panels of fabric would be rather appealing, but think about washing your car. Strip it down like bed sheets and throw the skin in the washing machine. Want a new paint job? Maybe a thousand dollars of fabric, or perhaps even just a dye job. You could change your car's color in a matter of minutes.

    That brings up a really interesting point. How do the police identify cars? Color and shape? Well those two are irrelevant with this vehicle. You can change the shape while you're moving and theoretically the color in about 10 minutes, I figure. It goes into a parking garage as a red roadster and comes out as a green pickup truck.

    Most importantly, and realistically, I'm sure the weight savings are impressive. And saving weight improves performance both in the go fast and the save fuel sense of the term. Imagine this combined with the Tesla Roadster. Shazam!

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  7. Interesting concept... by HockeyPuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Which is exactly what that is, a concept, BMW comes up with an idea and floats it with the public to see what they think. Saturn did this with plastic bodies, "you'll never get a dinged door from a loose shopping cart.." While the metal skin of a car doesn't provide much protection, I bet it does add quite a bit to the weight of a car, and quite a bit of manufacturing (stamping, painting etc..) than a textile based covering.

    At least they're thinking different.

  8. Bah! by lahvak · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This has been done before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velorex

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  9. Re:Keying by Miseph · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I tested this theory by keying my jeans... while it somewhat hurt my thigh, the cloth was quite unaffected.

    My conclusion: cloth is more resistant to minor cosmetic damage than painted sheet metal, and harder to cut than flash.*

    Seriously though, cloth is actually quite resistant to things like impact and scratching, which to me sounds like a great reason to make parts which are really prone to little other than cosmetic damage out of it (keep in mind that in a serious accident, the damage which we are concerned with is not to the painted sheet metal on the outside, it's to the frame and chassis... if those are essentially undamaged, then any damage is really just cosmetic). Even a flimsy t-shirt requires some serious twisting or a tremendous amount of blunt trauma to take any noticeable damage, and something like canvas is substantially tougher, not to mention Kevlar and other synthetics which are highly resistant even to sharp trauma.

    *Do not try this at home, goodness knows I didn't. All experimental data is fabricated... get it ated. I crack myself up.

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  10. It works on airplanes by tramm · · Score: 4, Informative

    Airplanes used fabric skins for years. They travel much faster than automobiles, so the strength isn't an issue. Even during WWII, most aluminum bodied aircraft used fabric covered control surfaces to allow easy repair of combat damage -- it is much easier to sew a new patch over a rip than it is to rivet aluminum patches.

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  11. I'll take "National driver stereotypes" for $500 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    German cars: Drivers are super-aggressive. They drive fast and push the car to its limits. Ignore them and they will accelerate away. Usually equipped with electronic countermeasures. If a German car is speeding, you can too. Never pass a German car. If it's going slow enough for you to keep up, there must be a reason. The German car driver is a fanatic -- willing to tolerate any amount of maintenance expense because of the joy of driving on those days when the car works properly.

    Japanese cars: Drivers THINK they have a German car, when in fact they don't. These people have an inferiority complex -- anxious to prove that their Honda Accord is a drop-in replacement for a BMW 745LI, while secretly planning to buy a BMW next time. Well known taking risks that the German car drivers cannot afford to take. If you are passed at high speed by a Japanese car, rest assured they will draw out whatever law enforcement might be around. Be prepared to call 911 on your cell for an ambulance.

    Korean cars: These people are trying to optimize the Total Cost of Ownership. They don't enjoy driving very much, but they spend very little money doing it. Similar to the Japanese car owner, the Korean owner is anxious to prove that his Hyundai Sonata is a drop-in replacement for a Honda Accord, while secretly planning to buy an Accord next time. Let's take a moment of silence to remember those early Korean car buyers and their dreadful machines.

    American cars: Drivers are not paying attention. They didn't pay attention when they bought the car, why would you expect them to pay attention while driving it? Some will exceed the speed limit, but only in a straight line -- often beyond the limits of the brakes and suspension. The American car driver laughs about Korean cars, until he discovers that his own car is a lemon. Secretly planning to buy a Hyundai Sonata next time. American cars are the car of choice for people who like to complain about all the OTHER cars and drivers.