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Do Women Write Better Code?

JCWDenton writes "The senior vice-president of engineering for computer-database company Ingres-and one of Silicon Valley's highest-ranking female programmers-insists that men and women write code differently. Women are more touchy-feely and considerate of those who will use the code later, she says. They'll intersperse their code ... with helpful comments and directions, explaining why they wrote the lines the way they did and exactly how they did it. The code becomes a type of 'roadmap' for others who might want to alter it or add to it later, says McGrattan, a native of Ireland who has been with Ingres since 1992. Men, on the other hand, have no such pretenses. Often, 'they try to show how clever they are by writing very cryptic code,' she tells the Business Technology Blog. 'They try to obfuscate things in the code,' and don't leave clear directions for people using it later. "

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  1. Do women write better code? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't know, I've never even seen a woman programmer. And I work in the field. I bet nobody on Slashdot has either. (this is a joke!)

    1. Re:Do women write better code? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I haven't seen a woman (live one that is). Nor sunlight.

    2. Re:Do women write better code? by eclectro · · Score: 4, Funny

      The day I see a female programmer is the day I see my VCR tell the right time.

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    3. Re:Do women write better code? by ThePengwin · · Score: 5, Funny

      live one that is

      That kinda scared me a little.....

    4. Re:Do women write better code? by tritonman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sorry ladies, but I work with 3 women coders, and I have to redo their stuff all the time! So much freakin' copy and paste junk code, classes that are 10k+ lines long, learn object oriented programming already!

    5. Re:Do women write better code? by Skye16 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm more likely to put a piece of black tape over it (someone else's). Mostly because that solution can withstand power failure :]

    6. Re:Do women write better code? by Dopeskills · · Score: 5, Funny

      live one that is

      That kinda scared me a little.....

      Apparently Hans Reiser is now posting as AC.
    7. Re:Do women write better code? by Joebert · · Score: 2, Funny

      What you don't realize is that they just program in a higher level language, and based on your comment your coworkers are very good at it.

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    8. Re:Do women write better code? by Bloke+down+the+pub · · Score: 5, Funny

      You've clearly never used COBOL.

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    9. Re:Do women write better code? by PReDiToR · · Score: 2, Funny

      Epic fail.

      Duct Tape is like the force, it has a light side, a dark side and binds the universe together.

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    10. Re:Do women write better code? by cjb658 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sorry ladies, but I work with 3 women coders, and I have to redo their stuff all the time! So much freakin' copy and paste junk code, classes that are 10k+ lines long, learn object oriented programming already! So basically, they hand it to you and tell you to take out the garbage?
    11. Re:Do women write better code? by Fex303 · · Score: 2, Funny

      The day I see a female programmer is the day I see my VCR tell the right time.
      Just stay up till midnight sometime.
    12. Re:Do women write better code? by Bloodoflethe · · Score: 4, Funny

      Back when I wrote code, I would, when writing for myself, not document a damned thing. However, if i wrote for general purposes I would explain each section in a large amount of detail. I would even point out what kind of problems that cutting out a particular section of code would cause.

      Hello, I'm Bloodoflethe, and I write code like a girl. *cries*

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    13. Re:Do women write better code? by somersault · · Score: 4, Funny

      He should maybe change his name to Java

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    14. Re:Do women write better code? by m.ducharme · · Score: 2, Funny

      given yesterday's article on the Denon RJ-45 ethernet cable, I'm not sure if you're serious or joking...I wonder if I could start selling old VCRs for $4000+ to videophiles...

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    15. Re:Do women write better code? by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shut the fuck up. You know what he meant. No need to thank me, citizen, just doing my part to spead Literacy, Justice, and the American Way!

      (cue heroic music)
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    16. Re:Do women write better code? by tritonman · · Score: 2, Funny

      yes, if you consider ctrl+c and ctrl+v as a higher level language.

    17. Re:Do women write better code? by Gromius · · Score: 2, Funny

      whoosh.

      I think the parent was inferring that they used a high level language with a compiler that took their rough code which indicates their general intension and produced something fast efficient and compact which did exactly what they wanted to do with minimal effort on their part, mainly because the compiler subconsciously wanted to sleep with them. I have certainly been such a compiler before, damn woman, they're too good at this programming milarky. They are very good at selecting the right tool for the job :)

    18. Re:Do women write better code? by c0d3h4x0r · · Score: 2, Funny

      First, I think you chose a poor example, because I think a vast majority of Slashdotters can't name a single "famous flautist", male OR female. Not true, I'm a great flatulist.
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    19. Re:Do women write better code? by thewesterly · · Score: 2, Funny

      No need to thank me, citizen, just doing my part to spead Literacy, Justice, and the American Way! Literacy and Justice are part of the American Way again?
    20. Re:Do women write better code? by Reziac · · Score: 3, Funny

      Easily explained. Today the girls got mod points.

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    21. Re:Do women write better code? by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Funny
      "I think you mean "snatched up".

      I dunno...I think if you start mentioning the word snatch too much in the work place associated with women, you're gonna get slapped with a lawsuit, and fired pretty quickly...

      :-)

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    22. Re:Do women write better code? by Joebert · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let's just say their man pages are on a whole 'nuther level.

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  2. well, hire a bunch of women by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    and see how harmonic they all work together

  3. yeah yeah... by mactard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Men's code is sexist and demeaning whereas woman's code will marry you for the divorce settlement.

    1. Re:yeah yeah... by Xiaran · · Score: 5, Funny

      If it was difficult to write it should be difficult to understand.

    2. Re:yeah yeah... by bsDaemon · · Score: 2, Funny

      So, just like women, right?

      Maybe that's the key after all!

  4. Women aren't good programmers by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Funny

    they freak out everytime they miss a period.

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    1. Re:Women aren't good programmers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Believe me, guys freak out when women miss a period also.

    2. Re:Women aren't good programmers by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Funny

      eh, just control-C to abort. If that doesn't work, try a kill -9 months.

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      These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.

  5. Wow, What A Revelation. by blcamp · · Score: 5, Funny


    "Men and women think differently."

    This is such shocking news. Unbelievable.

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  6. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 4, Funny

    Excuse me? "Try to?" Like, it's on purpose? I had these doubts to ... then I was introduced to Perl.
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  7. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by TitusC3v5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This article told me I code like a woman. I knew playing all those female characters in RPGs would come back to haunt me.

    /cry

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  8. no question, they code much differently by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    And if I ever come across a woman programmer, I'll prove it.

  9. Not true. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If women were intended to write code, there would be more keyboards in the kitchen.

  10. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by Larsrc · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've seen all genders write obfuscated code--but it worked. Please describe what other genders than male and female you've seen writing obfuscated code. I'm most curious now.

    -Lars
  11. Oh come on, Slashdot! by borizz · · Score: 4, Funny

    -those strings of instructions that result in nifty applications and programs-

    Why do you need to explain what code is? This is news for nerds, not news for my mother. Give us some credit please.

  12. A woman claiming 'women right better code'.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    bias, anyone?

  13. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by NotBornYesterday · · Score: 2, Funny

    You're just begging to be rickrolled to a NSFW hermaphrodite pron site with curiosity like that.

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  14. Beware of Female Programmers by Idimmu+Xul · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now that I've lived to see this day,
    These are the things I must but say.

    Die a bachelor, if your options are few,
    Never ever love a female programmer,
    they'll make a program out of you.

    Don't laugh it away, mine has been an object lesson,
    They find syntax errors, even in a romantic expression.

    Alas! They search logic in love, where there is none,
    Your heart may skip a beat and they just hit return.

    You are in for trouble if you persist,
    You'll just be a pointer in her long linked list.

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    1. Re:Beware of Female Programmers by sapphire+wyvern · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd say the problem is that your romantic expressions aren't regular enough.

  15. Re:Simplistic? True? by PsychosisBoy · · Score: 1, Funny

    Any such broad classifications such as this should be taken with a *lot* of salt.

    Pun intended? (I hope!)

  16. Multi-tasking by inamorty · · Score: 2, Funny

    Does this explain the state of affairs in concurrent programming?

  17. Documentation by Ogive17 · · Score: 5, Funny

    We all know that even if a woman *appears* to document her code well that what is written isn't what she really means!

    Or women don't document at all and just expect the men to know what they are thinking.

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  18. Actual comments from woman-code: by BForrester · · Score: 5, Funny

    They'll intersperse their code-those strings of instructions that result in nifty applications and programs-with helpful comments and directions.

    If women code anything like they act in real life, then you'd get a lot of helpful comments like this:

    /*If you don't why this function isn't returning your expected result, then hell if I'm going to tell you.

    1. Re:Actual comments from woman-code: by Achoi77 · · Score: 3, Funny

      "If you don't know, I'm not going to tell you!" - quote from my ex when I asked her what was wrong.

  19. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by cammoblammo · · Score: 4, Funny
    Ha! That Donald Knuth comment reminds me of the obligatory xkcd reference.

    Who said women couldn't code?

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  20. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does this mean you need to spend half an hour telling the database how pretty it is and how much you love it no matter what it says before it will give you a straight answer?

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  21. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by Dog-Cow · · Score: 3, Funny

    Did I tell you... Umm, you should have known, by reading your own post, that up until this point you hadn't. I think you need to work on writing things down more clearly :)
  22. Re:Of course by Gazzonyx · · Score: 4, Funny

    True, but it is the greatest flamebait article ever! It kind of brings a little tear of joy to my eye.

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  23. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Funny

    Also: I hear that Asians write really efficient code because of their little fingers. And black guys? They could write great code, if only Whitey would stop keeping them down.

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  24. Re:Bad programmers methinks by cptnapalm · · Score: 4, Funny

    "she's not doing her job properly"

    See, that can't possibly be it. Didn't you watch all those 80s after-school specials? Have you not watched all those female empowerment action movies?

    *Sigh*

    All women, everywhere, regardless of age, height, weight or any other consideration are absolutely fantastic at everything they do. All women are at least above average intelligence, though most are in the genius category. Obviously, since she is a woman, she is doing her job brilliantly!

    I mean look at all the uplifting, empowering stories that show how amazing women are. Can a 300 pound linebacker be flattened by a 95 pound girl? Of course! As long as she believes in herself!

    But there is danger out there. What if a woman does something and someone says that it is not very good. That would hurt her self-esteem! Since we've already proven that women are indeed capable of doing everything far better than men, this attempt to hurt women's self-esteem must be stopped. There will be a meeting followed by a handout of the new rules about how all men must grovel a sufficient amount everyday to be allowed in the room with women's amazing wonderfulness.

    So, obviously, Mr. "She's not doing her job" you are just a supporter of the white male patriarchy, since you hate women and want them all to be barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.

    Don't worry, though. We'll re-educate you. Oh yes we will...

  25. Perhaps by east+coast · · Score: 2, Funny

    But I can still write my name in the snow better than any woman.

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  26. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by complete+loony · · Score: 2, Funny

    And then you have women like the brillant Paula.

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  27. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by Reverend528 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Like, it's on purpose?
    It was hard to write. It should be hard to read.
  28. That's offensive by RobinH · · Score: 2, Funny

    As a male who likes to leave lots of "roadmaps" and such in my code for future programmers, I feel that my masculinity has been challenged.

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  29. Well, since you ask... by v(*_*)vvvv · · Score: 2, Funny

    Female code is more sensitive to errors and user input. They react, but often in ways unexpected, and there is a lot more going on than the users are made aware of.

    There are also more dialogs, but most of them are just confirmations, with no option to cancel. Sometimes users are forced to read instructions or show concern for the programs wellbeing before being able to proceed.

    Female code is also shorter and lighter, more often mutli-threaded, and tends to be harder to debug.

    Female software tends to lock-in users with very strict and specific End User License Agreements. You also lose half of your harddrive if you switch to another program, or are caught making out in another window.

    And so on and so forth.

  30. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by dosius · · Score: 5, Funny

    ORLY now. I'm still officially a man (much to my chagrin), and I've always used landmarks to give directions.

    -uso.

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  31. Stupid sexist tripe. by jcr · · Score: 3, Funny

    Anyone who assigns attributes to half of the people in the world is on very thin ice.

    -jcr

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  32. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by bsDaemon · · Score: 1, Funny

    Are you saying one of them was a tranny?

  33. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    > Well one and a half of them, kind of...

    She was that fat, ey?

  34. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, he's saying he 'half-dated' one of them. That means he was dating her but she wasn't actually aware of it...

  35. Re:Remember: Sexism's Only Alright If It Favors Wo by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 4, Funny

    I work with a woman whose name is Ruby Perle. The sad part is that the inherent pun there didn't dawn on me until just this second. I must be slipping...

  36. WTF? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    It is BS such as this that will ensure sexism remains in the workplace for a long time to come.

    I don't care if you are a transsexual midget; if you write better code then I do, I want to work with you.

  37. Re:Of course by mattwarden · · Score: 3, Funny

    What the hell is "testosterone-fueled code" anyway? I mean, here is a excerpt from the code for an online store I recently developed for a client.

    // GONNA SHAVE WITH A RAZOR BLADE YEAH
    oStore.getValidator().validateInput(lstFormElements);

    // GONNA PUNCH YOUR LIGHTS OUT IF YOU KEEP LOOKING AT ME YEAH
    oStore.getCCProcessor().processPurchaseTrxn(listFormElements.get('CC'));

    // TIRED OF CODING TIME FOR WORKING OUT THEN STRIP CLUB YEAH
    oStore.getWorkflow().getNextPage();

    Seems pretty standard and I could see a woman coding it the same way.

  38. Re:Of course by maglor_83 · · Score: 2, Funny