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EA's (Limited) Creature Creator For Spore Released

JimboFBX writes "The Spore creature creator has been released. It's a limited demo, but it lets you make a full creature and test drive it a little. It gives some insight on what you'll be able to do with your creatures. Personally, the novelty already wore off within 10 minutes. From what I can tell, the full creature creator is a separate purchase from the actual game. Gotta love EA." An anonymous reader points to a thread at More Awesome Than You alleging that this creature creator also contains some phone-home features which might be cause for concern.

116 comments

  1. About the payware version by Mascot · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Has anybody seen any logical explanation for charging for the full version? The entire idea of releasing the creature creator is to have a population of creatures ready for when the game is released, as far as I've gathered. If so it makes no sense to limit it.

    Is it as simple as "we think we can get a few bucks off of this so let's charge for it", or is there some other reason?

    1. Re:About the payware version by Daimanta · · Score: 5, Informative

      You've answered your own question. People are willing to pay for both the creature editor and the game. So EA lets them and rakes in the cash.

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    2. Re:About the payware version by k_187 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would also imagine that charging $10 for it allows them to easily weed out all the people making penis head creatures and uploading them.

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    3. Re:About the payware version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course it's as simple as that...

      Don't forget it's EA.

    4. Re:About the payware version by Grokmoo · · Score: 1

      I believe they are charging because they know that plenty of people are willing to shell out a piddly $10 for an early crack at the creature editor. Not to say you were implying otherwise, but they obviously have every right to do this.

      I doubt very much they will have any problem churning out ample creatures for the full release.

    5. Re:About the payware version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Europe at the very least their treating the full version as a preorder bonus of sorts. You get a code that gets you a refund off the full games price..

    6. Re:About the payware version by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      Or at least gives them some info about you so that they can ban you and all future attempts to buy your way back in.

      Layne

    7. Re:About the payware version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sadly, not true. There are already a pile of penis creatures out there including a goatse one. There's some youtube links to a lot of them on a Bluenews thread I was reading yesterday (sadly BN is blocked here at work so I can't reference any of them at the moment).

    8. Re:About the payware version by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      they know that plenty of hackers are willing to shell out a piddly $10 to be the first to produce an early crack for the creature editor.

      There, fixed that for you.

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    9. Re:About the payware version by ericvids · · Score: 1

      The not-so-evil answer is that if you release all of the creature features right now for free, upon release of the game there wouldn't be surprises left in terms of these features -- you would have seen 'em all.

      I'm assuming of course that the paid creature editor isn't released yet (or isn't gonna be released anytime soon, at least significantly before the game's release).

      On the other hand, if it HAS been released, then the reason's exactly as you said.

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    10. Re:About the payware version by mobby_6kl · · Score: 3, Funny

      That doesn't seem to be working that well.

      Anyway, it's not surprising that it "phones home", considering that it's supposed to be online/sharing oriented, and needs to contect the servers. As far as SecuROM, the version I got from TPB works fine, although that doesn't mean SecuROM didn't install silently.

    11. Re:About the payware version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well both of you are correct so, WIN!

    12. Re:About the payware version by Splab · · Score: 1

      Crikey thats some twisted stuff. But what else could one expect from something like this :-)

    13. Re:About the payware version by Chyeld · · Score: 1

      You did notice the letters "EA" in the summary, correct? Have you seen the number of expansion packs, deluxe packs, and megauber packs they release? Especially ones like the Sims?

      While Spore might be Sid's attempt to get around this (it's hard to sell an expansion pack when all the content is user/procedurally generated), that just means they are going to do their best to squeeze out every last cent they can out of the game.

    14. Re:About the payware version by Broken+scope · · Score: 1

      Which Sid do you happen to be talking about?

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    15. Re:About the payware version by Chyeld · · Score: 1

      The one that spells it Will. Completely understandable you didn't recognize that one.

    16. Re:About the payware version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you forgot the best one

    17. Re:About the payware version by Marc+Desrochers · · Score: 1

      oops, I meant to post this one.

    18. Re:About the payware version by Shipwack · · Score: 1

      "This video has been removed due to terms of use violation."

      Who would have thunk it...

    19. Re:About the payware version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess you haven't played with it yet. It's worth well over the cost of 2 lattes. If you don't want it, just download the free version.

    20. Re:About the payware version by Herkum01 · · Score: 1

      Man, I was reluctant to consider Spore because the SecuROM feature, but some of the creatures... I wonder what it will take get to get the planet "Biggus Dickus" populated with these species.

    21. Re:About the payware version by xalorous · · Score: 1

      The game has several phases, each one expanding on the previous phases. Creature, family, colony, planet, etc.

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    22. Re:About the payware version by ichigo+2.0 · · Score: 1

      Those are made with the free editor. What the GP meant was that EA probably only puts creatures made with the full version of the editor into the final game, as the amount of penis creatures should be lower. They will still have to hand-pick the creatures they put in the final version though.

    23. Re:About the payware version by Mascot · · Score: 1

      Yes, we all know that. But they're not selling each phase individually, unless they've gone completely crazy and the press somehow failed to pick up on that development.

      The question was whether they had tried to justify demanding payment for the full version of the creature editor versus the free limited version. Especially since the people creating creatures are in effect working on creating content for the game for free. Any justification beyond "we think we can milk a few more bucks out of people this way".

      The consensus appears to be firmly in the camp of the latter theory. And people are falling all over eachother to pay for the thing, so I guess that proves the validity of their decision.

    24. Re:About the payware version by Archimagus · · Score: 1

      I think it is just that. There have been a few posts on /. about it. The general concensus seems to be that $10.00 is below the mark of caring for a lot of people and if they can get 2 or 3 hours out of it then it was worth it, and if they can't then no big deal. The creature editor will come as part of the game too, so you don't have to buy both, it is just also made available separatly for people that want to try it out early. If $10.00 is too much for you then you can get the preorder bundle for $54.95 which efectively reduces the price of the Creature Creator to $5.00 if you planned to buy Spore any way.

    25. Re:About the payware version by kurzweilfreak · · Score: 1
      Should be...

      Especially since the people creating creatures are in effect working on creating content for the game for fun.

      That evil EA, charging people for letting them have fun? How dare they! I bet they'll even want to charge for the actual Spore game too! Travesty!

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    26. Re:About the payware version by Mascot · · Score: 1

      They're charging them to save EA money on creating the initial content themselves. There's a difference.

      Anyhoo, dead horse and all that.

    27. Re:About the payware version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because Spore is the most overrated game ever. And they're finding new ways to profit from the hype-machine they've created.

      I can see the question now: "How can we make money off this thing *before* people actually start to play it and realize it's cool but not that much fun to play?"

      What I find most incredible about Spore, is not that EA is seeking to generate profit off the hype alone, but that the usually-skeptical /. crowd has swallowed the spin (from the largest PR dept in videogaming) hook, line and sinker.

  2. Typical... by Stormwatch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Legit version has malware-ish features. Warezed version will certainly be clean. Do they WANT people to pirate or what?!

    1. Re:Typical... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the warezed version will just not have the EA Malware installed, it does not guarantee no malware...

    2. Re:Typical... by cephah · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have never experienced any negative consequences of using warezed versions of ga--
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    3. Re:Typical... by ludomancer · · Score: 1

      I was looking for info on this. I blocked its net access with my firewall because I felt the game would probably try to connect to their servers (something acceptable considering the games psuedo-online design), but I didn't know if I was going to buy into the full version (of Spore, not creature creator) until I found out exactly what EA was pulling across my network.

      So what exactly does this thing do in terms of information sharing? (or stealing)

    4. Re:Typical... by Flaystus · · Score: 1

      This game will call home by its very nature. Yet people are shocked that its calling home? Remember the who dynamic experience thing?

  3. Quite entertaining by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 1

    It's quite entertaining (Goatse-monster aside) to toy with this program.

    Some of the limits in the creator are a bit silly (like only having carnivore mouth options and not including herbi- and omnivore), but it's still fun, and very easy to learn to use.

    I can't wait to get my hands on the full game - but I really hope I get to set the language myself and not be limited to whatever the installer has detected on my system.

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  4. SecuROM by FnordX · · Score: 4, Informative

    The "free" demo does also come bundled with SecuROM, so, downloader beware.

    Also, it includes about 8 items out of each of the menus. If you're wanting to, you can pay the full price for the demo and get everything, and then proceed to upload your content to help out the developers by allowing them to have content ready when the game launches.

    So, basically, you're paying EA to make their game world better, and they don't even trust you enough to give you access to the limited edition of the demo without some pretty intrusive spyware. And EA wonders why they get such a bad rep?

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    1. Re:SecuROM by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure they don't wonder. But as long as there's no impact in sales, they also don't care.

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    2. Re:SecuROM by the+brown+guy · · Score: 1

      help out the developers by allowing them to have content ready when the game launches. How many more penis monsters do they need?
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    3. Re:SecuROM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I made over 200 creatures for Spore. I almost never saw any of them twice. Believe me, they don't need your help to populate the worlds. The creature creator is more about stoking interest and delivering non-vaporware than it is about populating DLC.

    4. Re:SecuROM by ShadowsHawk · · Score: 1

      I canceled my preorder when I found out that they loaded it up with SecuRom. I got burned with BioShock, so no more money for anyone that uses that sort of DRM.

    5. Re:SecuROM by LrdDimwit · · Score: 1

      We are talking about EA here ...

  5. WHEN PENIS MONSTERS ATTACK by the+brown+guy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gotta love the penis monsters....nothing beats getting your entire civilization wiped out by being that rock with their cocks out....

    <a href="http://kotaku.com/5017350/when-spore-penis-monsters-attack">When spore penis monsters attack</a>, you can't beat the title.

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    1. Re:WHEN PENIS MONSTERS ATTACK by Radish03 · · Score: 4, Funny

      This news story was in the Sci/Tech section of Google News this morning for me. Definitely did a triple take upon seeing the words "Penis Monster" in the headline.

    2. Re:WHEN PENIS MONSTERS ATTACK by Cathoderoytube · · Score: 1

      'That's not a penis! My species reproduces asexually! It's merely a defense mechanism that spurts a viscous liquid when we're threatened!'

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    3. Re:WHEN PENIS MONSTERS ATTACK by g0bshiTe · · Score: 1

      Certainly sounds like a penis.

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    4. Re:WHEN PENIS MONSTERS ATTACK by BlueHands · · Score: 1

      I would like to some of the goatse versions, but no one would click on them.....

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    5. Re:WHEN PENIS MONSTERS ATTACK by castleguardian · · Score: 0

      Be careful with using those to reproduce. Remember: one species love-lubricant can be another species caustic death sauce...

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    6. Re:WHEN PENIS MONSTERS ATTACK by Kimos · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are now over 300 spore penis monsters on YouTube. Really...

      Bask in the phallic glory of five years of development.

    7. Re:WHEN PENIS MONSTERS ATTACK by the+brown+guy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Be very careful when searching for "penis spore" on youtube.....should you accidentally type sore as spore your in for a nasty treat.

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    8. Re:WHEN PENIS MONSTERS ATTACK by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 1

      'That's not a penis! My species reproduces asexually! It's merely a defense mechanism that spurts a viscous liquid when we're threatened!

      I'm SO using that line the next time I go clubbing!

  6. Definitely by Pojut · · Score: 1

    I've been looking forward to the creature creator for some time. Ever since I was a kid, I have had a really overactive imagination...something like this is exactly what I have been looking for!

    Given the horrible fact that the retail game will have SecuRom, I will likely just buy a copy in the store, then download and play a cracked copy.

    I've heard rumours that the creature editor contains SecuRom as well, but that doesn't bother me TOO much at this point...likely gonna be formatting my computer soon anyway. ATI, hurry up and release the 4870!

    1. Re:Definitely by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      If you play the cracked version you can almost guarantee you won't be able to participate in the automatic content sharing, so you'd be playing an offline version only while the full game is multi-single-user

    2. Re:Definitely by Pojut · · Score: 1

      That all depends on what they use to validate individual users. If it just goes by CD key, then it won't matter because I will have a retail copy:-)

      Here's hoping, anyway...

    3. Re:Definitely by MindStalker · · Score: 1

      I know the pirated pre-release of the creature editor was banned from content sharing and it doesn't have any key :)

  7. Bow to the dildosaurus! by inotocracy · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now all we need is the vaginasaurus to go with it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-cjbTXOeMM

    1. Re:Bow to the dildosaurus! by Bwana+Geek · · Score: 1

      When bowing to the dildosaurus, it is recommended that you face toward the creature rather than away.

  8. The other thing is the system requirements by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    While my Mac mini is more than powerful enough on the hardware end, now I have to shell out $139 to buy a new version of OS X ... just to run this thing.

    Sigh.

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    1. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 1

      While my Mac mini is more than powerful enough on the hardware end, now I have to shell out $139 to buy a new version of OS X ... just to run this thing.

      Sigh. Can't you bootcamp to Windows?
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    2. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can't you bootcamp to Windows? Considering that a Windows license would cost him as much as or more than the latest version of OS X, the appropriate answer is: yes, but why would he want to?
    3. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by Pluvius · · Score: 1

      You mean... people buy Windows?

      Rob

    4. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 1

      Can't you bootcamp to Windows? Considering that a Windows license would cost him as much as or more than the latest version of OS X, the appropriate answer is: yes, but why would he want to? I was episodes of the Weeds last night and noticed something strange. Every character in the show seems to have a Macbook, but that's fairly normal in television. On the other hand, every Macbook in the Weeds is always running XP. Maybe it's also normal, but I've never noticed it before.

      Also, you can legally buy XP for a lot less than $150, and I assume most people with Macs and an interest in gaming already have a copy installed so they can play the majority of games that don't work on a Mac, and play the ones that do work on a Mac with higher framerate...or be on the Weeds.
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    5. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      Why would I want to run XP when I have a Mac mini? I'd rather spend the $130 on a better version of the MacOS ...

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    6. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      Where are those requirements? We get a "download editor" link, then on the download page we get a direct link to the editor with no mention of what is required, other than Windows or Mac.

    7. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      Your Mac mini is NOT powerful enough (and neither is mine):

      "This game will not run on the GMA 950 class of integrated video cards."

    8. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      no, it says it will run. I got a souped up one at the educational rate. Just the OS is a prob.

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    9. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by the+brown+guy · · Score: 0, Redundant

      most people with Macs and an interest in gaming already have a copy installed so they can play the majority of games that don't work on a Mac . Honestly bro, read the post that you're replying to at least. I don't, but I also don't post stupid replies.
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    10. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      Spore works on a Mac.

      Again, if we were talking about some non-Mac Windows-only game, you might have a point.

      But the Spore Creature Creator is both Mac and Windows, so I fail to see your point.

      Heck, it's going to work for the Wii too.

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    11. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      AFAIK there's no "souped up" Mac mini, it's only available with the GMA 950.

    12. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by azuredrake · · Score: 1

      If your Mac is not an Intel Mac, OR your Mac does not have a non-integrated graphics card, it won't be supported for Spore or any other Cider (Transgaming) Mac port. This includes all EA Mac games, but also other recent entries such as EVE online and anything else done by Transgaming.

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    13. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by Rebelgecko · · Score: 1

      Even though the installer claims to need 10.5.3, I was able to get Spore to run on 10.4.11

      After downloading and opening the .dmg drag the installation application to your hard-drive and right-click Show Package Contents. Go to to Contents/Resources and open up tginstall.plist. Change the value of MinimumSystemVersion to your version of Mac OS or an earlier one. Save it and open the modified installer on your hard-drive. It should install normally.
      After you have installed it, go to the SPORE folder that it created in your Applications folder or wherever you installed it. Once again, right click and show package contents on the app. Go to Contents and, after opening Info.plist, change minimum system version again.

      Go back and open the actual application. The only problem I've encountered is that it may take up to a minute to get past the splash screen, but it went faster for me the second time. I don't know if it took longer because of running it under a different OS, or because Cider just sucks compared to a native game.

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    14. Re:The other thing is the system requirements by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 1

      It is an Intel Core Duo Mac Mini - at least according to system info.

      At least it works for my son's fifth year Latin software ....

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  9. The goatse creature by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Funny

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbvbyzvXOOc

    That one had me laugh out loud at work today. ;)

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    1. Re:The goatse creature by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbvbyzvXOOc

      That one had me laugh out loud at work today. ;) Mod parent up. On-topic usage of Goatse is almost an art-form.
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    2. Re:The goatse creature by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Oh c'mon, it ain't so hard. Every time the ??AAs are mentioned, you can easily be dead on topic with the most infamous goatse pic when describing their lawyers and managers.

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    3. Re:The goatse creature by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      No fuckin way I'm clicking on that.

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    4. Re:The goatse creature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did anyone get a coral cache?

  10. Laggy by Knara · · Score: 1

    Turns out the leaked version of this has been around for at least a week. Various xChan boards have been doing threads featuring a variety of memes that were created using it.

    Not terribly surprised that the "demo" is crippled. It's EA after all. Too bad about the SecureROM nonsense, though.

    1. Re:Laggy by k_187 · · Score: 1

      Not terribly surprised that the "demo" is crippled.

      Isn't that kind of the definition of a demo?
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    2. Re:Laggy by Knara · · Score: 1

      Eh. I prefer the time-limiting or similar idea for demos to the crippled demos. The whole bit where one imagines that someone will want to play a game by making them play a crippled version of it before hand always seemed odd to me.

      It's like trying to sell strawberry-banana icecream by giving people a sample of banana icecream, and then saying "now imagine if it had STRAWBERRY too!"

  11. Hats of to razor1911 and other groups by unity100 · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    for it seems we will need their 'fixes' to be able to play our LEGITIMATELY purchased version of this game.

    on a sidenote, i have to ask - has it become a tradition to hire iditos for top level management positions in gaming firms ?

    1. Re:Hats of to razor1911 and other groups by malkavian · · Score: 1

      Nah, it's tradition to hire people with the business and finance degrees.. You know, the ones that ran Enron, the property markets and so on..

    2. Re:Hats of to razor1911 and other groups by ludomancer · · Score: 1

      on a sidenote, i have to ask - has it become a tradition to hire iditos for top level management positions in gaming firms ? You say that as a joke, but it's not. You have no idea...
  12. Alleged phone-home features? by Bieeanda · · Score: 2, Informative
    There's one post in that thread that says something very vague about an encrypted communication, and the rest advocates disconnecting your Internet connection. That's not news, it's hearsay.

    Now, SecuROM in the installer-- that is worthy of note.

  13. On "Phoning home" by Suddenly_Dead · · Score: 5, Informative

    The game does utilize an internet connection for legitimate purposes. The banner at the start seems to be loaded off the internet (advertising the full game). There's a section in the "Sporepedia" that has links to purchase the game, advertisements for Spore merchandise and other things which I would think are loaded dynamically off the net. And the game of course lets you create and upload creations.

    More, you know, evidence of malicious intent would be nice before people start running around like the sky is falling.

    1. Re:On "Phoning home" by Tarindel · · Score: 1

      Also, when the banners at the start are displaying, the game connects to the patch servers to see if any patches are available. There just aren't any yet.

      Hardly malicious, nor even particularly unexpected.

    2. Re:On "Phoning home" by hopelessdeskmonkey · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, you're right, just because someone has their hand in your pocket doesn't mean that they're going to take anything out. Oh wait, I don't like having someone put their hand in my pocket. To be honest the phone home feature isn't as onerous as the 3 validation limit. If you change video cards, hard drives, OS, or make a variety of undisclosed changes to your system they break your game. Why bother paying for that? I change components frequently, and would have to pay for this games 3 times a year, no thanks.

    3. Re:On "Phoning home" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will these still work, or rat me out, when I get the cracked full version?

    4. Re:On "Phoning home" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      . Oh wait, I don't like having someone put their hand in my pocket. And I was wondering how penis monsters kept coming-up in this thread. Now I know.
    5. Re:On "Phoning home" by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 1

      One would hope after the Mass Effect debacle they'll dump the 3 activation thing.

      Curious how it's going to work with the direct download version. That's the one I'll probably buy (unless I want to wait god knows how long for any store near me to get the damn thing) but I'm going to wait and see what restrictions there are as I have 3 computers I want to install it on. (My desktop and laptop, and the kids computer.)

    6. Re:On "Phoning home" by Shadyman · · Score: 1

      Uh oh, don't tell Windows! You'll have to reactive it too!

    7. Re:On "Phoning home" by Shadyman · · Score: 1

      The preceding Engrish has been brought to you by Caffeine, and its ongoing battle against the Preview button.

    8. Re:On "Phoning home" by Suddenly_Dead · · Score: 1

      You're not going to convince anyone to stop making any applications that utilize the Internet.

      The activation limit I'm definitely not a fan of though. Having to call every time I reinstall Windows is stupid enough, but if it gets to the point where I need to do it for every damn piece of software I buy, I'm just going to stop paying for them.

  14. Floppy by eddy · · Score: 1

    He and Floppy should mate.

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  15. Great Old Ones by cptnapalm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I might be interested in this game if I can make Cthulhu & the Gang. Otherwise, meh.

    1. Re:Great Old Ones by Snowmit · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:Great Old Ones by cptnapalm · · Score: 1

      Cute and Cuddly Cthulhu: Your comfort come the apocalypse.

      Thanks :)

  16. Full version = Penis hero. by Cur8or · · Score: 0

    I bet you'll have a USB "receptacle" to add your genetic distinctiveness to your creature. I realize this is as sexist as saying Bill Clinton wont make a good first lady, but the 3 girls who will confuse Spore for "The Sims: Primordial beginnings" will realize their mistake when they see the custom controller.

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  17. Why buy? by zuggy40 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is a perfect example of what I like to call "BioShock Conundrum" (since that was my first experience). Why buy when pirating is a more enjoyable and pleasant experience?

  18. sporn by Dillenger69 · · Score: 4, Funny

    We're being inundated with penis monsters.

    It's a new category: sporn

    yay for innovation.

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  19. Securom? No, Macrovision by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I installed the demo yesterday. It was a royal pain in the ass just to get it working. Had to uninstall the EA Download manager because it was bugged up (script error popups!) and then the demo itself just up and quits if I do ANYTHING that takes me out of the demo (such as Alt-TAB, or if the firewall pops up, or even clicking their own links that launch a browser!!). Pretty nutty, but I can say it has something by Macrovision, not Securom.

    1. Re:Securom? No, Macrovision by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 1

      The Macrovision thing comes from Installshield, NOT EA. I Googled it. Vague info, but it's definitely Installshield related.

      It installs a service without telling you (thank you, Winpatrol). I've disabled it. Nothing untoward has happened from doing so.

  20. Spore Demo should have Securerom by partowel · · Score: 0

    Why should spore demo have securerom?

    TO show all those mind-consciousness systems

    [ organic humans ] that we at EA are absolute

    dictators.

    You can only install the demo two times.

    Then you have to pay 10 dollars more to

    install it again.

    Securerom is absolute perfection.

    PERFECT for EA and their greedy corporation.

    EA is not afraid of showing you how greedy

    they really are.

    My prophecy for the future :

    Spore is NOW an online game. You must have

    an internet connection. NO single player game.

    1. Re:Spore Demo should have Securerom by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know who makes secuROM, Sony. FUCK SONY. Fucking SecuROM is a ROOTKIT. I boycot sony and they still find a way to FUCK ME OVER!!!!!!

      FUCK YOU SONY!!!

  21. IT COUNTS AS A PREORDER by azuredrake · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hey guys,

    I just wanted to point out what nobody has said (for North America, anyway) yet: If you buy the Creature Stand Alone, it counts as a preorder for Spore, in that if you buy spore at the EA online download thingy you get the CSA's price back off your purchase.

    Now I'm not naive enough to think that that's going to stop most readers here from just warezing it anyway, but breaking the law is breaking the law; so for those of you who want to do it legit, this will save you money.

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    1. Re:IT COUNTS AS A PREORDER by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not really saving you money, in my opinion. It locks you in to buy the game via the online store in order to not lose money. Or pay for the editor twice, if you will.

      I still think charging for the editor is ridiculous. They want the best content possible for game release? They want people to create it for them for free? At least have the courtesy to not ask people to pay for the complete tool to do it with.

  22. Huh? by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

    "... breaking the law is breaking the law;" ...

    So: all laws are equal? They all have the same moral and ethical value? I think not.

    Too many laws in recent years have been passed for reasons of power and profit, rather than morals or ethics. There is a big difference.

    Some laws DESERVE to be ignored!

    1. Re:Huh? by azuredrake · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Some people opt on principle not to break laws. The above information would be useful for them to know, if they value both lawfulness and pragmatism and are trying to make a decision.

      I also work in the game industry, so people talking about pirating games does tend to piss me off. If you don't like the product, simply don't buy it - that is your message. Pretending your piracy is noble because you "stick it to the man" is a convenient invention to assuage the periodic pangs of morality which sometimes occur in the human animal.

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    2. Re:Huh? by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 1

      Lawfulness is only virtuous when the laws represent virtue. When laws begin to represent exploitation more than virtue, then you have a moral obligation toward civil disobedience.

    3. Re:Huh? by ShadowsHawk · · Score: 1

      So you never speed or jaywalk? Some laws do more harm than good and need to be rewritten.

      As for pirating; stop screwing your customers and we'll gladly pay you for a quality product. I was one of many that got screwed when I legally purchased BioShock. As a result, I will not be purchasing (or pirating) any game that has SecuRom. The recipe for success is simply. Good game + target audience - intrusive DRM = $$$

      Stop dicking around your customers and you'll have a lot less to be pissed off about.

  23. Clarification by Jane+Q.+Public · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I am not trying to state that unlawful copying is a good thing in the vast majority of cases. But, on the other hand, NOBODY has a right to install software (rootkits, malware, services) on my computer without my PRIOR CONSENT.

    NOBODY!!!

    The latter offense is vastly greater than the former. One might deprive a business of a bit of profit (at least theoretically, but in practice it is far less than claimed). The other is an unforgivable intrusion into someone's personal world and personal information.

    I am a professional in the software industry also. But I look to larger issues than someone "pirating" "MY game". Social justice must be addressed as well. And spyware isn't it.

  24. do not use Digital Download by MellowTigger · · Score: 1
    I'm now on my 4th support ticket with EA, and I still don't have a working program installed on my computer. Next time, I'm only buying the disc version.
    1. I thought the download was available on the 18th. Wrong, it's available at 12 noon on the 18th. *sigh* Why make a program available starting in the middle of the day?
    2. The EA Download Manager isn't downloading the full version. Because I have the trial version installed already. Uninstall that.
    3. Fyi, your instructions to uninstall don't work. The trial version was not listed under Start / Programs. I had to use the control panel's program manager to uninstall it.
    4. Now the download manager works, but the full game install is asking for a CD code that was not part of the emails that you sent me.
    Criminy. The game (even though just the creature creator, and even though just the trial version (so far)) is still great fun.
    1. Re:do not use Digital Download by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Why are you at Slashdot? You couldn't even get a game installed on your own? Yeah - it doesn't play nicely if you've already got the demo installed. So what? You couldn't figure that out on your own?

      Go work on your myspace page.

  25. Dear EA (and Maxis) by BurningFeetMan · · Score: 1

    Thank you for releasing the SPORE Creature Creator on an international world wide scale. Except for in Australia, where you've left us out in the cold with no where to legitimately order, pay for and download our very own copy.
    You jerks.

    Lots of love,
    BFM

    1. Re:Dear EA (and Maxis) by ZzzzSleep · · Score: 1

      According to some comments on the Screenplay blog ( http://blogs.theage.com.au/screenplay/archives/009768.html )you can purchase it from the EA NZ store.

    2. Re:Dear EA (and Maxis) by BurningFeetMan · · Score: 1

      I'm waaay ahead of you. :)

      My girl friend and I made this today on our lunch breaks.

      http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=X9rUS7tjYY8

      IT'S PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME!!! Although originally he was the banana from the short animation known as Rejected!

  26. A required security module cannot be activated. by thedbtree · · Score: 1

    I downloaded the trial version of Spore Creature Creator to see what this game is about. I install the game fine but when I fire it up for the first time I get...

    "A required security module cannot be activated. This program cannot be executed (5016)."

    What the hell is that? Apparently,

    "SecuROM has determined that some File Monitor program is running in the background. Please close this program and reboot your PC before you start the application." Page here

    Right. File Monitor program? Please elaborate. Are you flagging ZoneAlarm or a virus scanner? Those are the only two programs I can think of that could be monitoring files. Well EA, whatever the problem is, work it out with SecuROM and keep me out of it. You aren't giving me confidence in your final product. If I shell out 55 bucks am I going to be on the phone with you for hours to get this resolved? I hear good things about Pirate Bay...only time will tell.