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"New" Words From the Geek Culture

thatskinnyguy sends news of Merriam-Webster's 2008 list of new words and, to no-one's surprise, a good number of them come out of geek culture: words like webinar, malware, netroots, pretexting, and fanboy are now official words according to M-W. The CNet article pulls out one "new" word for special appreciation — mondegreen — and, while the article gets the origin right, it ends with a lame call for readers to send in their favorite mondegreens. (CNet does have the good grace to link the Kiss This Guy site.) SFGate columnist Jon Carroll has been collecting readers' mondegreens since 1995 and his list is bound to be better. Quoting Carroll, in a prophetic mode: "This space has been for some years the chief publicity agent for mondegreens. The Oxford English Dictionary has not yet seen the light, but it will, it will." Would you believe, Merriam-Webster's?

191 comments

  1. Is it wrong... by ickoonite · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...that I don't know what almost all these words mean? What is a "webinar" for example? I guess I'm just not cool anymore... :|

    1. Re:Is it wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Webinar : Seminar on the web, usually using youtube, flash or some other video/podcast like medium.

    2. Re:Is it wrong... by Freaky+Spook · · Score: 5, Funny

      What is a "webinar" for example?

      It was invented by a group of HR people. They needed a cool new word for "webcast", so people wouldn't get angry when they found out that instead of spending a week at retreat on professional development, they were to be locked in a room with a projector instead.

    3. Re:Is it wrong... by Brain+Damaged+Bogan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "web seminar" it's not a geek term at all, but a marketing one. my old boss used to love these damn things and every time he'd say the word "webinar" a peice of me died a little inside

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    4. Re:Is it wrong... by flaming+error · · Score: 5, Funny

      webinar, n:
      1) something formed by or as if by weaving. There's a spider webinar garage

    5. Re:Is it wrong... by TheMidnight · · Score: 5, Funny

      I find it egregious that it took until 2007 to add "w00t" to the dictionary. I was using w00t back in the Warcraft II and Command & Conquer days.

      Now if you'll excuse me, I have some juvenile delinquents that I need to evict from my grass.

    6. Re:Is it wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yer otter submit that to ole' Foxworthy.

    7. Re:Is it wrong... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Even if you can guess what it means, it's always good fun to pounce on neologisms and jargon and grill the user why they are using them instead of a more traditional word. My Dad told me a great story. He worked for the University which was under pressure from its new Thatcher appointed Vice Chancellor to be more 'commercially oriented' while no one really knew in practice what this meant. The VC gave a speech full or management consultancyisms and uses the word proactive. Someone stood up and asked him if he meant active. The VC blusters and the questioner keeps arguing. After a very long time the VC says "ok, you win I meant active". The questioner sat down. The VC delivered the rest of the speech without much enthusiasm and left without allowing questions from the floor.

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    8. Re:Is it wrong... by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      Unfortunately the parent's name is unknown, or we'd have a good candidate for a new word to denote a dim pillock who explains jokes. And, while the angels weep, gets modded up for it.

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    9. Re:Is it wrong... by Joebert · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't care who you are, that's fox worthy right there.

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    10. Re:Is it wrong... by genik76 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Proactive is the opposite of reactive, which are both something else than "active". Maybe you could say that proactive and reactive as words are refinements of the word active, which the VC apparently failed to communicate.

    11. Re:Is it wrong... by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

      If I was VC and some little tosspot interrupted me like that, I'd tell him to fuck right off. You can do that when you're VC.

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    12. Re:Is it wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He worked for the University which was under pressure from its new Thatcher appointed Vice Chancellor to be more 'commercially oriented' while no one really knew in practice what this meant.

      How about coming up with a set of grades to cover all the students using a bell curve and then auctioning them grades off?

    13. Re:Is it wrong... by MrNemesis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Primarily because, in my experience, most users of the word "pro-active" are unaware of it's anti-reactive connotations and use it to describe singularly reactive situations ("I want us to respond to this pro-actively"), or even in just syntax-ruining "I've learnt a cool new word" non-sequiturs ("our new rubber grommets have a 100% pro-active paradigm"). In other words, I'm convinced that alot of people use it because they think it sounds More Important than "active" or lack the vocabulary to better describe it.

      It's kinda acceptable in most sysadmin circles as most geeks are aware of things like "pro-active" support (I prefer to call it preventative maintenance myself since it means less fuzzyness for the recipient, which we abbreviate to premaint in conversation) but neologisms are mostly a matter of taste. /spot the word-snob ;)

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    14. Re:Is it wrong... by digitig · · Score: 1

      Proactive is the opposite of reactive, which are both something else than "active".

      You know that and I know that, but apparently the VC giving the speech didn't know that, and the questioner successfully called his bluff. The point isn't that the words don't have useful meanings, it's that people use them to hype up their message without actually knowing those useful meanings.

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    15. Re:Is it wrong... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      I don't think he could. The guy interrupting him had tenure, and the VC was new to the job. Telling him to fuck off would probably have been fatal to the VC's career.

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    16. Re:Is it wrong... by owlnation · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, I don't think webinar's geek word... it sounds disturbingly like a... BUZZWORD!

      Disown it!

      And seriously, what does mondegreen have to do with geek either -- nor is it in any way a new word. This seems like a another sockpuppet article designed to generate traffic for a website.

    17. Re:Is it wrong... by Fear+the+Clam · · Score: 1

      Webinar : Seminar on the web, usually using youtube, flash or some other video/podcast like medium, used by people who have only attended lecture-format courses.

      You see, the problem with "webinars" is that in actual practice they have little to do with interactive discussion and everything to do with a lecture.

    18. Re:Is it wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In other words, I'm convinced that alot of people use it

      The Guide to Alot
      a lot many Steph had a lot of apples.
      allot to divide They alloted 2 apples per person
      alot no meaning I found alot of errors in there post!

    19. Re:Is it wrong... by TomRK1089 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You insensitive clod, for me it still is the Command and Conquer days!

    20. Re:Is it wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm convinced that alot of people"

      and then you go on to say

      "/spot the word-snob"

      I am doubting that you are a word snob. "alot" isn't a word.

    21. Re:Is it wrong... by drooling-dog · · Score: 1

      "I want us to respond to this pro-actively"

      I like that one. I think I'll use it today, just to see if anyone catches the oxymoron.

      BTW, being "proactive" is what we used to call "taking initiative", but I suppose that phrase may have had its origin in management-speak, as well...

    22. Re:Is it wrong... by techpawn · · Score: 3, Funny

      every time he'd say the word "webinar" a peice of me died a little inside

      THANK YOU
      First time I heard this was from our marketing guy my response was along the lines of a shutter and yelling at him to NEVER use that word again in front of me. They are web presentations. Webinar is a new word for the bullsh*t bingo card.

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    23. Re:Is it wrong... by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      You must experience a lot of stupid people.

      I usually hear it being used correctly; for example, "we need to tackle the problem of the population getting ill proactively".

    24. Re:Is it wrong... by guruevi · · Score: 1

      I've always wondered, how do you get a yard in your parents' basement? And if you had an hydrophonic yard, wouldn't juveniles be committing burglary when they're there?

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    25. Re:Is it wrong... by sg3000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are lots of words that marketing drones create that are irritating, but "webinar" has a purpose.

      A webinar -- in the context my company uses it -- is more like a web-based seminar. Both a seminar and a webinar are targeted to an external audience (outside the company), have a moderator (usually a third party person), and may be hosted by more than one company. A webinar is more expensive than just a regular "web presentation" since there's some logistics involved (hiring a third party to set it up and manage it, managing invitation lists, having an operator manage who joins the bridge, etc.), but it's not nearly as expensive as a seminar.

      A webinar is different from a web presentation in that the seminar (or webinar) are intended to be informative speaker-lead discussions for a relatively open audience. A web presentation would be more generic, and could encompass an internal meeting, a sales presentation, or something else.

      So I think "webinar" is reasonable because it conveys a specific, useful meaning.

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    26. Re:Is it wrong... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny

      I guess I'm just not cool anymore...

      Oh, dear. Epic coolness fail! Newspeak is made of win. You are not a legend.

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    27. Re:Is it wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe you mean, "dipwn it."

      Thanks.

    28. Re:Is it wrong... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      "Proactive" is a perfectly good English word. It just sucks when management/consultant types misuse it while trying to sound clever.

      This is usually done by the sort of person who says "utilise" instead of "use" and doesn't know the difference between the nouns "use" and "usage".

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    29. Re:Is it wrong... by ad0n · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's like listening to a police officer giving testimony in court (and trying to sound more intelligent).

      "I proceeded to approach the accused. Afterwhich, I proceeded to question the individual and ..... "

      What ever happened to good, clean use of language?

    30. Re:Is it wrong... by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're a marketer aren't you?

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    31. Re:Is it wrong... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Even if the VC can't exactly boot him out directly there are ways and means. Allocate him the office next to the toilet that always blocks up. Make sure he gets the worst classes to teach. Lose his paperwork - whatever it's for. Tenure schmenure.

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    32. Re:Is it wrong... by bkr1_2k · · Score: 2, Funny

      my response was along the lines of a shutter and yelling at him to NEVER...

      Does that count as a mondegreen, or just poor command of English?

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    33. Re:Is it wrong... by g0at · · Score: 4, Insightful

      For a self-described "word snob" I'm surprised you bungled "its" ("it's") and "a lot" ("alot"). :)

    34. Re:Is it wrong... by techpawn · · Score: 0

      Most likely a mondegreen having only ever heard the onomatopoeia for when a recoil happens due to shock and not seen it spelled out.

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    35. Re:Is it wrong... by Mesa+MIke · · Score: 1

      `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'

      `The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

      `The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master - - that's all.'

    36. Re:Is it wrong... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      some would argue that Foxworthy's catchy hickisms are nothing more than southern versions of mondegreens.

      One of my favorite song mondegreen is "I've got, two chickens with parasites"

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    37. Re:Is it wrong... by Jurily · · Score: 1

      (I prefer to call it preventative maintenance myself)

      At my old job, that was the phrase they used for "cleaning".

      Also, I use it as "the act of tapping the box with a hammer before a Windows or Gentoo install, just so it knows what to expect upon failure".

    38. Re:Is it wrong... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      Yep. Why were the bad guys always "proceeding forward of myself" instead of "walking in front of me"?

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    39. Re:Is it wrong... by Miang · · Score: 1

      I'd even suggest 'mondegreen' is anti-geek at this point, when one can simply Google lyrics that one is unsure of or may have heard incorrectly.

    40. Re:Is it wrong... by Gizzmonic · · Score: 1

      What about a web-boner? When you get a boner...over the web?

      It's like an e-penis, but more pleasurable.

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    41. Re:Is it wrong... by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 2, Funny

      hydophonic? is that where you hook the fishtank up to your stereo?

    42. Re:Is it wrong... by SoulGrind · · Score: 1

      Webinar is the conjugation of two words... "Web" and "Seminar", ergo the end result: "Webinar." Essentially, a web-based seminar. I have been affiliated with a couple of companies who use this term frequently. It is typically a part of the vocabulary of sales and marketing types. Typically, our sales and professional servicesengineers (within the company I work for) use webinars (typically via WebEx) to demo our company product as well as provide end-user training for said product. This allows our prospects and current client pool to sit at their respective home in their skivvies by the pool and learn about the latest wiz-bang feature while listening to some sales guy rattle of facts and figures while the proserv guy spouts off technical mumbo jumbo. I admit, it is a great way to handle affairs AFTER the initial face-time with the client. However, I do agree, webinar is more of a buzz word - but it looks like it's here to stay.

    43. Re:Is it wrong... by SoulGrind · · Score: 1

      Now if you'll excuse me, I have some juvenile delinquents that I need to evict from my grass.

      Ah - I see they found your stash!

    44. Re:Is it wrong... by SoulGrind · · Score: 1

      Please, for the love of all that is good and holy, eschew obfuscation!

    45. Re:Is it wrong... by bkr1_2k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      For reference, it's shudder that you're looking for, not shutter, which is what is put over a window during a storm.

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    46. Re:Is it wrong... by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      Firstly, the VC couldn't do those things unless he got department heads, registrars, and a load of other university officers to collude with him, and I doubt they would be willing to join a new VC in acting in such a manner, he would soon find his staff conspiring to make his life hard for him and undermine him at every turn. Not to mention what the students would do if they thought he was trying to force out their favourite professor, his reputation would not look good when his campus is covered in posters with caricature of him and graffiti insulting him in various ways. I recall the time when a couple of students got a megaphone off the lecturers union and want and stuck it against the VC's office window and shouted various things down it when the VC was trying to sack a well liked professor.

      A VC is not ultimately in charge, the university council can shit all over him and kick him out if he behaved in such a manner, and probably would, if they saw him treating one of their colleges like that.

    47. Re:Is it wrong... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      the VC couldn't do those things unless he got department heads, registrars, and a load of other university officers to collude with him, and I doubt they would be willing to join a new VC in acting in such a manner

      What, and risk their own opportunities for advancement? Are rose tinted glasses in fashion in your part of Germany?

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    48. Re:Is it wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *facepalm*

      sounds about right that it originated from some HR douche

    49. Re:Is it wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm surprised you missed "kinda" which to my knowledge isn't actually a word.

    50. Re:Is it wrong... by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      As they are all potential VC's, their interest is in getting rid of the current VC so they can take his spot, and buttering up the university council so as to get their support.

    51. Re:Is it wrong... by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      if you have a hydroponic "yard" in your basement, i would be more worried about feds than neighborhood kids if i were you, the kids will just nick some of your shit.

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    52. Re:Is it wrong... by Valdrax · · Score: 1

      Now if you'll excuse me, I have some juvenile delinquents that I need to evict from my grass.

      D0n j00 m34n j00 g0t zOMG lw4n-gn0mz0rs n00bz 2 r0x0rz?

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    53. Re:Is it wrong... by mjwx · · Score: 1
      EGADS, please learn to speak newspeak.
      You said:

      Oh, dear. Epic coolness fail! Newspeak is made of win. You are not a legend.

      Which should read

      Oh Dear, doubleplus uncoolness, newspeak is doubleplus good. You are unlegend.

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    54. Re:Is it wrong... by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 1

      OMG!!11!!!eleven! Total literature reference fail. My bad.

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    55. Re:Is it wrong... by techpawn · · Score: 1

      thank you. Shudder it is

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    56. Re:Is it wrong... by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

      *signing*

      If it is possessive it's just I-T-S!
      but if it is a contraction it's I-T-apostrophe-S!
      Scalawag!

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  2. Eye Four One... by MrKane · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...personally enjoy being able to watch languages evolve, but, "Webinar"?!

    It should only be used in the phrase:
    "What in the webinar you doing, scumm!?"

    I prefer the acronym, OCS: Online Collaborative Seminar.

    1. Re:Eye Four One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If Merriam-Webster is going to start adding geek words (though the ones added are of a questionable credibility), I petition that they also add geek words with much more historical and cultural significance.

      Yes, it is time a major dictionary added the word 'goatse'. But they should hide it in a tiny locked compartment in the back of the dictionary to seal up the evil it contains. Precautions must be taken to prevent unsuspecting people from accidentally reading words of this much power.

    2. Re:Eye Four One... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      I believe you meant: eye four won ;-)

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    3. Re:Eye Four One... by karbyn-aceous · · Score: 0

      shouldn't this be ... Eye Four Won ?

    4. Re:Eye Four One... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope that entry will have an illustration.

  3. Dear Merriam-Webster: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You spelled "fanboi" wrong.

    Sincerely,

    AC

    1. Re:Dear Merriam-Webster: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      U spelt "u" wrong.

      Sinserly

      AC

    2. Re:Dear Merriam-Webster: by dlb · · Score: 1

      I always thought that was someone trying to sound french.

  4. Geek words are generally listed in the Jargon File by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These words are just hipster-speak. Wired would be proud (but probably disappointed that they didn't get "triple-dub" in the dictionary).

  5. New word coined on Arstechnica a week ago by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Witness the birth of a new geek word on Arstechnica forum:

    pludge
    verb
    1 [ intrans. ] to install an operating system update before verifying that it's safe to do so on the [Ars Mac forum]

    http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8300945231/m/953002313931

    The thread is now the third link on Google if you search for the word.

    1. Re:New word coined on Arstechnica a week ago by Hes+Nikke · · Score: 1

      if i had mod points, i'd mod you up! (btw, it was number 1 on google for me)

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    2. Re:New word coined on Arstechnica a week ago by hotfireball · · Score: 1
      pludge
      verb
      1 [ intrans. ] to install an operating system update before verifying that it's safe to do so on the [Ars Mac forum]

      This often happens with Linux fanboys... :-)

    3. Re:New word coined on Arstechnica a week ago by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      As in "You should never pludge an Ubuntu pre-release version."

      or

      "Why did so many clueless Microsoft-genuflecting fanbois pludge Vista?"

      And finally,

      P1: "Slashdot was down all day yesterday".
      P2: "Yeah, what happened?"
      P3: "I heard pudge pludged the latest Fedora."

    4. Re:New word coined on Arstechnica a week ago by that+IT+girl · · Score: 1

      So this is simply a word coined to describe the regular practices of Microsoft...

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    5. Re:New word coined on Arstechnica a week ago by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      The term "Linux Fanboy" is deprecated. In these Post-Vista times the politically (and technically) correct term is "Clue Havers" ;-)

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    6. Re:New word coined on Arstechnica a week ago by Bryansix · · Score: 1

      No clue-havers still use XP because we realize that users are retarded and won't figure out Linux and will just quit and work somewhere else to get away from it.

    7. Re:New word coined on Arstechnica a week ago by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      My 72 year old mother, who is barely able to use a cell phone, has been using Linux for 4+ years now. If you have an employee too retarded to figure out how to use a modern Linux system, the exodus of incompetents is an added advantage not a drawback.

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    8. Re:New word coined on Arstechnica a week ago by Bryansix · · Score: 1

      You're probably right. Now tell that to the hiring authorities in my company that post their ads in the Pennysaver and Craigslist.

  6. Google?? by William+Robinson · · Score: 1
    What about Google? It has almost replaced 'search this on web' phrase.

    To a geek, 'google for SSL' makes sense.

    1. Re:Google?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What about Google? It has almost replaced 'search this on web' phrase.

      To a geek, 'google for SSL' makes sense.

      Google's lawyers are hard at work to make sure that their trademark doesn't become a verb and fall to common use status (nullifying the trademark).

    2. Re:Google?? by kdemetter · · Score: 1

      Google's lawyers are hard at work to make sure that their trademark doesn't become a verb and fall to common use status (nullifying the trademark).

      They should be happy , it's free advertisement.
      Then again , they might see that as competition ( they are in the ad business )

    3. Re:Google?? by v1k · · Score: 1

      It's free advertising for a while -- do you think the verb "xeroxing" is still helping Xerox?

    4. Re:Google?? by BlackCobra43 · · Score: 2, Funny

      All Google has to do is show they're trying to supress unauthorized verbing. It's for the best, really.

      Verbing weirds nouns.

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    5. Re:Google?? by Random+Destruction · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes. By adding a familiarity to the brand name if nothing else.

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    6. Re:Google?? by mdwh2 · · Score: 1

      I don't know if it matters for the law, but I note this is subtely different to when other trademarks have become generic, because the verb "to Google" does not mean "to use a search engine" in general, it specifically means "to use Google". So even if it did become generic, it would be incorrect at least for another search engine to use the term to describe their own product.

    7. Re:Google?? by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      Name another brand of photocopier.

      and no googling for one!

    8. Re:Google?? by Bryansix · · Score: 1

      Konica Minolta, Toshiba, Canon, Kodak, Panasonic, Richoh... that's just off the top of my head. Yes I've used all of those brands before too.

    9. Re:Google?? by perlchild · · Score: 1

      They are doomed to fail. They could save a bunch of money on lawyers just renaming the "search" product they make, and reaping free publicity for the company by keeping the company name the same. That way, the company name, associated with all their other products get the free publicity from being a household name, but people can't use the name of their search engine in vain

  7. For shame by consonant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I realize being a language Nazi is nerdy, even by Slashdot standards, but this summary is just shockingly awful!

    The headline reads "\"New\" Words From The Geek Culture". So the summary starts off with a single line on it, then randomly rambles on about CNet focusing on 'mondegreens'. Bzzt! Summary-headline mismatch already! Now it's possible that kdawson is just mimicking TFA, which does the same, but that's a frcikin' blog post! Somehow, a rambling blog post has been distilled into (if it's possible) a fumbly summary as well!

    All this meandering is topped off with a quite inexplicable question: "Would you believe, Merriam-Webster's?"

    Seriously, WTF?

    1. Re:For shame by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Coherence and originality as so Web 1.0. The Web 2.0 way is to get a bunch of uncredited articles and make a 'mashup' of them.

      Mind you, Mondegreen is a cool invention
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondegreen

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    2. Re:For shame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new here.

    3. Re:For shame by Narpak · · Score: 1

      Indeed. It is pretty ironic that a submission about words is that badly writen.

      I guess I might also be a bit of a language nerd. Rarely do I use "new" words when I write something, unless it is so someone I know very well. If I write something on the internet I try to be as easy to understand as I can make it. Often using new or complex words seem to distract or confuse; and language is supposed to inform and enlighten.

      However adding new words is good, no doubt about that. But the word have to be commonly known for it to be viable for practical use. Unless of course you know that the only ones reading your post/article is already in the know.

    4. Re:For shame by Sethus · · Score: 1

      The whole Blog is basically coming straight from an Associated Press article. Here's the link to it;

      San Francisco/AP article

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    5. Re:For shame by julesh · · Score: 1

      All this meandering is topped off with a quite inexplicable question: "Would you believe, Merriam-Webster's?"

      No? Well how about Collins Pocket?

  8. Would you believe, Merriam-Webster's? by Eternal+Vigilance · · Score: 1

    "How about a newspaper columnist and few geeks on the net?"

    1. Re:Would you believe, Merriam-Webster's? by julesh · · Score: 1

      "How about a newspaper columnist and few geeks on the net?"

      Is that your shoe ringing?

  9. meh, Webster's by ya+really · · Score: 4, Funny

    I gave up on Webster's as an authoritative source on the English language after they added bling to its dictionary. Noah Webster would be angered by the himbos now in charge of his publication. Perhaps the publishers are just part of the Sandwich generation and spend too much time with their parents while their mouse potato kids edit the dictionary for them.

    1. Re:meh, Webster's by StrawberryFrog · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I gave up on Webster's as an authoritative source on the English language after they added bling to its dictionary.

      Why shouldn't a dictionary have that word? People are going to use it, and other people are going to want to know what it means. A dictionary would be failing them by not including it.

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    2. Re:meh, Webster's by ya+really · · Score: 1

      Why shouldn't a dictionary have that word? People are going to use it, and other people are going to want to know what it means. A dictionary would be failing them by not including it.

      But how many times have you used mouse potato since 1993?

    3. Re:meh, Webster's by ya+really · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In my honest opinion, I think Webster's adds buzz words like these mostly knowing it will give them free advertisement when the media lets everyone know what pop culture words are now somewhat legit. Dictionaries dont really need to add nonsense words that tend to be slang or are too silly to ever be used outside of a joke (looking at you webinar). For words like these, there's always urbandictionary.com. After all, wikipedia may have an article on Jenna Jameson, but Britannica does not.

    4. Re:meh, Webster's by KiloByte · · Score: 0

      "bling" is a real word. It came to English initially from the ghetto slang and became well established since.

      "mouse potate"? "himbos"? Come on...

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    5. Re:meh, Webster's by digitig · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But how many times have you used mouse potato since 1993?

      Isn't that exactly why it should be in a dictionary? Somebody reading something from the early 1990s might come across it and want to check their understanding of the meaning. If I'm reading old literature I'm rather glad that my dictionary includes "sweven" and "parfay" precisely because I don't normally use those words.

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    6. Re:meh, Webster's by digitig · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I gave up on Webster's as an authoritative source on the English language after they added bling to its dictionary.

      What do you mean by "authoritative"? Do you think that the purpose of a dictionary is to tell you how the language should be used or to report how it actually is used? Most dictionary compilers see themselves as having the latter role, in which case "bling" certainly deserves a place.

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    7. Re:meh, Webster's by I+cant+believe+its+n · · Score: 1

      So, what are you saying you mouse potato? That I'm old fashioned?

      (As a not native english speaker, this phrase had me laughing for a looong time. Thanks.)

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    8. Re:meh, Webster's by thedonger · · Score: 1

      Uneducated ghetto people either made up the word bling, or mangled some other well-meaning word from English, and then it was allowed back into English as a derivation? I call shenanigans.

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    9. Re:meh, Webster's by thedonger · · Score: 1

      The dictionary compiles all the words we say, and we make up more words, and the dictionary compiles all the new words we say, and we make up more new words...

      Maybe the South Park writers were on to something in the "Starvin Marvin In Space" episode. There is a planet where every noun has been changed to "marklar." E.g., "She thinks his marklar should be markler, when, in fact, it is really just a marklar."

      That really gets my marklar in a marklar.

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    10. Re:meh, Webster's by edalytical · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well how else are they going to pimp their dictionary to metrosexuals?

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    11. Re:meh, Webster's by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 1

      I see the word webinar being used a lot now in my area of financial services. It's a perfectly cromulent word.

    12. Re:meh, Webster's by digitig · · Score: 1

      The dictionary compiles all the words we say, and we make up more words, and the dictionary compiles all the new words we say, and we make up more new words...

      Which is a good case for dictionaries moving from paper to electronic formats -- my copy of the Complete Oxford English Dictionary (the "compact" edition) is huge and unwieldly, and long out of date.

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    13. Re:meh, Webster's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      When I heard mouse potato I thought immediately of a subterranean root with fuzzy ears and a tail

    14. Re:meh, Webster's by jweller · · Score: 1

      I'd make the argument that bling is an onomatopoeia. I'm fairly certain that I've seen an old Buggs Bunny cartoon where something shiny, like a diamond, made the sound "bling." If i had to guess, I'd say it's origin comes from old radio show sound effects.

    15. Re:meh, Webster's by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Uneducated ghetto people either made up the word bling, or mangled some other well-meaning word from English, and then it was allowed back into English as a derivation?

      Rather like the words "jazz" and "hiphop", and the usage of "cool", "chill out", "hip", "dig" to refer to things other the temperature, anatomy, and holes.

      The "Black American" dialect (call it "African American Vernacular English", call it "ghetto talk", whatever) has long been a primary source of new words and inventive uses for old ones.

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    16. Re:meh, Webster's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I gave up on Webster's as an authoritative source on the English language after they added bling to its dictionary. Noah Webster would be angered by the himbos now in charge of his publication.

      Oh, that recently. I gave up (not that I'd ever considered them an authority) back in the 80s when they included "irregardless" and had the shrublike "noocoolar" pronunciation for "nuclear".

    17. Re:meh, Webster's by Bryansix · · Score: 1

      Merriam Webster wrote the authoritative dictionary for the American English language by taking words in common usage and distilling the primary meanings and one spelling of them into a book. I'm sure the British thought it was all hogwash too back then but that wasn't the point. It wasn't supposed to chronicle the English language as it was over there but instead it was supposed to show what the English language had become over here. There is still a standard of showing common usage over a period of time before a word is added.

    18. Re:meh, Webster's by Bryansix · · Score: 1

      www.m-w.com

    19. Re:meh, Webster's by ediron2 · · Score: 1

      Given you blur the tug-of-war between two philosophies of dictionary editing (IANA Lexicographer, but believe they're called proscriptive vs. descriptive) into 'most dictionary compilers', I'm guessing you don't really know enough to talk on this subject with the authority you feel you have.

      OTOH, GP seems to get this since they're talking their losing trust in Websters as 'authoritative'. Many dictionaries are mere reporters, but there's market and value in acting as an arbiter of language, differentiating between slang and proper language, between proper and lazy spelling, etc.

      (and no, I'm not picking a side... I just know that formal writing doesn't tolerate ain't, bling, and the likes).

    20. Re:meh, Webster's by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

      What do you mean by "authoritative"?

      Canonical. The Merriam-Webster dictionary is American English the same way that the OED is British English. The person you are responding to is an illiterate savage.

    21. Re:meh, Webster's by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

      It doesn't make them any less the ultimate authority on American English. "Misunderestimate" ought to be added as a word too if only to serve as a warning for future generations. Be afraid, be very afraid.

    22. Re:meh, Webster's by yorkshiredale · · Score: 1

      They added bling to the dictionary?

      Like a rhinestone-encrusted cover and illuminated neon spine?

      It's about time, those big books look just soooo boring!

      (Guess they jacked the price up 1000% too?)

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    23. Re:meh, Webster's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wtf is a parfay when it's at home?

    24. Re:meh, Webster's by digitig · · Score: 1

      Given that I specifically refer to the tug of war between the two philosophies of dictionary editing, given that I know that the first that you mention is called "prescriptive" not "proscriptive", and given that most dictionaries nowadays are indeed descriptive rather than prescriptive (the same is not true of grammars, for what it's worth) -- something you yourself recognise when you say "many dictionaries are mere reporters" -- I think I have some clue about the subject -- we've covered it quite extensively already on the linguistics degree I'm doing at the moment. If you have better authority than my course texts I'd love to hear it, because well-supported contrary opinions are always good for a few extra marks on assignments.

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    25. Re:meh, Webster's by digitig · · Score: 1

      See? If you had a dictionary with archaic words then you'd know by now! ;-)

      (It's an archaic intejection, reinforcing the remainder of the utterance, parfay! -- as well as being an alternative spelling of "parfait").

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    26. Re:meh, Webster's by digitig · · Score: 1

      Well, only if you choose to treat it that way -- English is not like French, with an official academy to mandate correct use. I doubt whether the editors of the Longman or Collins range of dictionaries give the OED canonical status! (in the case of the Longman range at least, with some justification, because they do a lot of solid research work into how the language is actually used -- the Collins people probably do too).

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    27. Re:meh, Webster's by StrawberryFrog · · Score: 1

      If you had internet, you wouldn't need to ask stupid questions. How you're posting without internet, I don't know.

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  10. Webinar? WTF? D'Oh! by Jager+Dave · · Score: 1
    I've been a geek for over 30 years - I've even got a hat that says so - and I've never once used, nor even heard, the word/term "webinar". I've even been involved in several "Web Seminars", and the term never came up...

    I knew I should have started questioning MW when they added D'OH! (ala Homer Simpson) in as a word..

  11. Valid Joke by Joebert · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can finally tell someone their picture should be in the dictionary under fanboy.

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    1. Re:Valid Joke by MagdJTK · · Score: 2, Funny

      I wouldn't be bragging about needing a dictionary with pictures in it...

  12. Re:Webinar? WTF? D'Oh! by try_anything · · Score: 4, Informative

    That's because the summary is wrong; "webinar" does not come from the geek world. It comes from the Dilbert world, where marketroids are compelled to make up stupid names for every mildly novel thing. Also, "pretexting" comes from the worlds of crime and espionage. The submitter learned about it in a geeky context (hacking) because the submitter is a geek and learns about most things in a geeky context.

  13. Re:Webinar? WTF? D'Oh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Next some teenager will claim that "money shot" and "barely legal" are geeky terms just because he never watched porn before the internet.

  14. in one day, out the next by petes_PoV · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I wonder how much "staying power" some of these words will have. OK they've been around in specialised usages for some years, in an industry that's famous for making up new words. However, until they make the leap from being geek words to being words your mother would use I will still be sceptical that they haven't been properly accepted.

    This smacks of the dictionary trying to be overly trendy - I expect a lot of these will be quietly dropped from this dictionary in years to come.

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    1. Re:in one day, out the next by crossmr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Very little.
      I remember the first year I read about this trend. They were inducting "bootylicious". During the same induction, they were also putting in some slang term from the 50s which actually had staying power.
      it was apparent then that it was pure attention-whoring (if you look this up in MW you'll find a link to MW). People shouldn't be giving dictionaries which include these types of words the time of day.

  15. SCNR by Jesus_666 · · Score: 4, Funny

    pludge verb 1 [ intrans. ] to install an operating system update before verifying that it's safe to do so on the [Ars Mac forum]

    syn. "use Gentoo Linux"

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  16. Newspeak by sporkme · · Score: 2, Funny

    Efforting - V - newspeak - The act of an incompetent journalistic organization to appear busy - "We are efforting to bring you more details."

    I am hearing this more and more... I say STFU and just say "trying" or "working on" instead of bullshitting us while trying to sound cromulent.

    On that note, while they're at it, they ought to add STFU to their little book o' words. It is a perfectly spatulant word and the English-speaking world would be metalopulant to finally instructulate it offically.

    1. Re:Newspeak by cnock · · Score: 1

      The phrase I really dislike is "on a go-forward basis". I hear this from executives a lot. Why not just say "going forward"?

    2. Re:Newspeak by Spatial · · Score: 1

      It is a perfectly spatulant word and the English-speaking world would be metalopulant to finally instructulate it offically.

      That better be a synonym of 'sexy'.

  17. Re:Webinar? WTF? D'Oh! by Jesus_666 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yup. If they came from a geek angle they'd have the security definition of "social engineering". Their current entry defines social engineering as either "management of human beings in accordance with their place and function in society" or applied social science.

    Although, of course, the latter could be used as a cynical way of describing what social engineering is...

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  18. Pretexting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What does "pretexting" have to do with geek culture? You don't have to be a geek to use a chat programs or a web browser and I think very few of us ever engaged in such activity.

    You may as well be saying kiddie fiddling is part of Christian culture.

    1. Re:Pretexting? by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

      What does "pretexting" have to do with geek culture? You don't have to be a geek to use a chat programs or a web browser and I think very few of us ever engaged in such activity.

      You use that word, but I don't think you know what it means.

      Pretexting is derived from "pretext" not "texting".

  19. All perfectly cromulent words by bazorg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    now all we need is to add "cromulent" to the dictionary.

    1. Re:All perfectly cromulent words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      now all we need is to add "cromulent" to the dictionary.

      I don't know why you say that, it is a perfectly cromulent word.

      http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cromulent

    2. Re:All perfectly cromulent words by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't see any reason to embiggen the dictionary.

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    3. Re:All perfectly cromulent words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      True. A noble word that embiggins us all.
      It should be unpossible to leave out.

    4. Re:All perfectly cromulent words by X3J11 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I don't see any reason to embiggen the dictionary.

      Unless one wishes to enturbulate the masses.

    5. Re:All perfectly cromulent words by lousehr · · Score: 1
    6. Re:All perfectly cromulent words by hey0you0guy · · Score: 2, Funny

      There are no words to describe the way i feel right now, so I'll make one up... Scrumtrelescent

    7. Re:All perfectly cromulent words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It never gets used that way, though. have you ever heard this conversation?

      "Hey! how are you doing?"

      "Cromulent. What's up?"

    8. Re:All perfectly cromulent words by xtracto · · Score: 1

      Unless one wishes to enturbulate the masses.

      That will only happen if they misunderestimate you.

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  20. hah by unity100 · · Score: 1

    wc2 and c&c are days that are not so old, "paps"

    1. Re:hah by c_forq · · Score: 1

      There not that old, but they were among the first batch to have network play - I can't think of any before those that supported in-game messaging.

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    2. Re:hah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      wc2 and c&c are days that are not so old, "paps"

      Stop trying to "smear" his good name. It's "pops" to you.

    3. Re:hah by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      There were a lot of games that had networking and in-game messaging before C&C or Warcraft 2, although those may have been the earliest RTS games with that feature. IIRC, even Doom had a limited version where you couldn't type arbitrary text, but could setup hotkeys to send certain strings.

    4. Re:hah by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Heck, someone's going to start talking about ogging next..

    5. Re:hah by c_forq · · Score: 1

      Really? Doom came out in 1993, Warcraft II in 1995. What games were there between or before those that featured it? What games that people might of actually heard of? Outside of the BBS world, I am stumped.

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    6. Re:hah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Netrek came out in the late 80s
      in game messaging, IP networking, sniping, camping, (zerg) rushing, yaddah yaddah.

    7. Re:hah by c_forq · · Score: 1

      Was it run anywhere outside of mainframes and a few colleges back then? Was it playable if you didn't have a mainframe? While people may know of Netrek, in the late 80's and early 90's I doubt anyone outside of a handful of college campuses had knowledge of its existence, and more important the capability of playing it.

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  21. Mondegreens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just to throw one of my favorites out there, since I rarely get a chance to share this one any more...

    The Police once sang a song about a rather disturbing girl with "Owl Beef wrapped around your finger".

  22. Missing a word by KinkyClown · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Strange thing is the most important NEW word is still not in the m-w...

    slashdot

  23. Old news by xalorous · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think it's too late. Already common use and even listed in some dictionaries.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/google

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/google (lists 5 references to google)

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  24. another reference by xalorous · · Score: 2, Informative
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  25. want to propose: WULU by Zdzicho00 · · Score: 1
    See: http://sgalaxy.wikia.com/wiki/Game_Slang

    the name "wulu" is now a widespread word used in place of calling somone a newb, (wulu is a character so moronic that his name is now shuned)
    anyways the new world of SG is all tatical and nobody ever just sees it as a game they are always screaming at eachother and calling eachoter wulus for there mistakes.

    Simply love that screaming: WULUUU!, WULUUUU!! during SG battles...

    /Jossarian from Agartha/TOFU on MP

  26. Turing test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On Internet, nobody knows you are an AI script ... until you show the lack of sense of humor. It's our last line of online defense against Skynet infiltrators!

    1. Re:Turing test by sexconker · · Score: 1

      No, the dogs are. We use them sniff out Ts.

  27. The list of words I think should be included... by fprintf · · Score: 1

    The following words are ones I think should be included in the dictionary*:

    Bound-and-hagged = staying home on Friday or Saturday night
    Cob nobbler = loser
    Dish = desirable guy
    Fuzz = heavy wool sweaters
    Harsh realm = bummer
    Kickers = heavy boots
    Lamestain = uncool person
    Plats = platform shoes
    Swingin' on the flippity-flop = hanging out
    Wack slacks = old ripped jeans

    *apologies to the NYTimes and Megan Jasper...

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  28. Cool! by jez9999 · · Score: 1

    Several new words in MW were pulled from geek culture?

    Word.

  29. Re:Webinar? WTF? D'Oh! by crossmr · · Score: 1

    At my last job everyone used the term webinar. Just because you have a unique experience doesn't mean everyone else has the same experience...

  30. Oxford English by DanJ_UK · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "The Oxford English Dictionary has not yet seen the light, but it will, it will." Oh but it won't.

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    1. Re:Oxford English by argent · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, the OED is a descriptive dictionary, and historically has had a habit of picking up words that prescriptivists would rather not see listed. It may be a little less likely to acknowledge gratuitous verbogeny than Webster, but the staff of the OED has always taken their job to be the documentation of English as it is actually used.

    2. Re:Oxford English by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually three of the words listed, "mondegreen", "fanboy" and "malware", are already in the revised OED Online. The others might be added in due course if the OED finds enough evidence for them.

    3. Re:Oxford English by argent · · Score: 1

      There you go then, that's glory for you!

      I wonder if it would be possible to OEDhack "wakalix" in?

      Google says "Results 1 - 10 of about 1,570 for wakalix."

      I'd have thought it would be more, after all Google only reports about 1,200 for verbogeny.

  31. that is ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so craptarded!

  32. `fanboy' didn't come out of the IT culture by brokeninside · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Miriam-Webster folks document its first /recorded/ usage as early as 1919. Presumably, it had been in used in spoken form even earlier. So this is a case of the IT crowd adopting pre-existing slang rather than IT speak making its way out into the general culture. I gleaned this from the AP article. The interesting thing to me is how old some of these new words are, like usage of wing nut to describe a radical out in the far wing of a political party dates back to 1900.

  33. Re:Webinar? WTF? D'Oh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    At my last job everyone used the term webinar. Just because you have a unique experience doesn't mean everyone else has the same experience...

    Actually, if you have a unique experience, that specifically means that no one else has had that experience. I learned that at a recent company 'blogginar'.

  34. On the etymology of mondegreen by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    Mondegreen: Named after Lord Alfred Fredrick Mondegreen of Cornwall, who legend has it was was a total poseur douche when it came to music.

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  35. Newsflash by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    "This seems like a another sockpuppet article designed to generate traffic for a website."

    Don't tell anyone, but articles - in newspapers or on the web - are almost always written to generate "traffic". This is true even for "free" publications, which get funded by advertising commensurate to their volume of readership. Shhh ....

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  36. Malware... how is this different than Bloatware? by Sethus · · Score: 1

    TFA links to an associated press story that they got their information from (practically copypasta... god I hope that becomes a word in the vernacular) and it states Malware is now an official word, ie in the W-M dictionary.

    So this brings me to a tech question! How is this different than a term I've been hearing around the office, "Bloatware". The context for bloatware is cleaning crap off of a computer it came installed with, that generally slows down the darn thing.

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  37. Quit your bitching by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    My 93-year-old grandfather died last year, after waiting over 80 years for "skiddoo" to be added (to no avail). And you have the nerve to bitch about having to wait a few years?!?!

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    1. Re:Quit your bitching by Mesa+MIke · · Score: 1

      Not to worry, it's listed at Wikipedia; who needs a dictionary?

  38. NOT an oxymoron by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    It is absolutely possible to react in a proactive manner. It is not an oxymoron. For example, if someone pulls a knife, one can react by trying to defend oneself, or one can be proactive and rush them and remove the knife from their control.

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  39. Re:Malware... how is this different than Bloatware by mooingyak · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've always understood the word malware to encompass actively malicious software. Bloat is annoying, a keylogger is malicious.

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  40. Re:Malware... how is this different than Bloatware by Pontiac · · Score: 1

    And I thought "Bloatware" was any new release from Microsoft.
    10x the size of the last release with the menu re-arranged so you can't find anything.
    Plus 15 new craptacular "features" (We call em bugs folks)

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  41. Not complete by sharkey · · Score: 1

    Unless "shitcock" is in there, it's NOT comprehensive.

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  42. I think they forgot the most important one... by DeskLazer · · Score: 1

    Rickrolled.

  43. Unfortunate Acronym by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem with "Preventative Maintenance" is that it produces a rather eye-catching acronym when you provide that type of Service... Preventative Maintenance Services - P.M.S. Now *that* sounds professional.

  44. Mondegreen has been around far longer than 1995 by MinusOne · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I recall reading a Jon Carrol column in the SF Chronicle about mondegreens in about 1986. IT was at the least no later than 1987. And now that I look in Wikipedia, the word was coined in 1954:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondegreen

    Some people just take a very long time to catch up with the cool kids :)

  45. Offtopic: regarding SG by quanticle · · Score: 1

    Hey! Good to see another SG player here on Slashdot. I'm quanticletwo on Atlantis in MP.

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  46. Fuck This Shit by sexconker · · Score: 1

    We had plenty of words already.
    They're just adding random shit in EA-style to sell more dictionaries.

    Here's a list of the known additions.
    Below them, I provide an alternate word (or phrase) that already exists that is synonymous with the new word or phrase.

    Side note - dictionaries have no fucking business using phrases!

    Air quotes (1989): gesture made by raising and flexing the index and middle fingers of both hands, used to call attention to a spoken word or expression.

    Miming.

    Dark energy (1998): hypothetical form of energy that produces a force that opposes gravity and is thought to cause the accelerating expansion of the universe.

    Science.

    Dirty bomb (1956): bomb designed to release radioactive material.

    Radiation bomb.

    Dwarf planet (1993): celestial body that orbits the sun and has a spherical shape, but is too small to disturb other objects from its orbit.

    Satellite.

    Edamame (1951): immature green soybeans, usually in the pod.

    Soybeans.

    Fanboy (1919): boy who is an enthusiastic devotee, such as of comics or movies.

    Fanatic.

    Infinity pool (1992): outdoor swimming pool with an edge over which water flows into a trough, but seems to flow into the horizon.

    Pool.

    Jukebox musical (1993): musical that features popular songs from the past.

    Musical.

    Kiteboarding (1996): the sport of riding on a small surfboard propelled across water by a large kite, to which the rider is harnessed.

    Surfing while kiting.

    Malware (1990): software designed to interfere with a computer's normal functioning.

    Software.

    Mental health day (1971): day that an employee takes off from work to relieve stress or renew vitality.

    Truancy.

    Mondegreen (1954): word or phrase that results from a mishearing of something said or sung. From the mishearing in a Scottish ballad of "laid him on the green" as "Lady Mondegreen."

    Mishearing.

    Netroots (2003): grassroots political activists who communicate via the Internet, especially by blogs.

    Losers.

    _Norovirus (2002): any of a genus of small round single-stranded RNA viruses; specifically, Norwalk virus.

    Virus.

    Pescatarian (1993): vegetarian whose diet includes fish.

    Burlap Vegetarian (see Lipstick Lesbian).

    Phytonutrient (1994): bioactive, plant-derived compound (as resveratrol) associated with positive health effects.

    Vegetables.

    Pretexting (1992): presenting oneself as someone else to obtain private information.

    Fraud.

    Prosecco (1881): a dry Italian sparkling wine.

    Wine.

    Racino (1995): racetrack at which slot machines are available for gamblers.

    Racetrack.

    Soju (1978): a Korean vodka distilled from rice.

    Vodka.

    Subprime (1995) 1: having or being an interest rate that is higher than a prime rate and is extended especially to low-income borrowers; 2: extending or obtaining a subprime loan.

    Foreclosure.

    Supercross (1983): motorcycle race held in a stadium on a dirt track having hairpin turns and high jumps.

    Bike race.

    Texas Hold 'em (1995): Poker in which each player is dealt two cards face down and all players share five cards dealt face-up.

    I'm all in.

    Webinar (1998): live, online educational presentation during which participating viewers can submit questions and comments.

    Video.

    Wing nut (circa 1900): Slang: one who advocates extreme measures or changes; radical.

    Radical.

    1. Re:Fuck This Shit by i_liek_turtles · · Score: 1

      Yea, while we're at it, let's get rid of more redundant words!

      Colloquial (1745-55): characteristic of or appropriate to ordinary or familiar conversation rather than formal speech or writing; informal.

      Common.

      I mean, the word is barely older than the American Republic!

  47. Re:On the etymology of mondegreen by _anomaly_ · · Score: 1

    I realize that you must be joking, but for those who didn't read the linked page to the sfgate columnist (here), this is the story according to him:

    For those of you who have not yet received the pamphlet (mailed free to anyone who buys me an automobile), the word Mondegreen, meaning a mishearing of a popular phrase or song lyric, was coined by the writer Sylvia Wright.

    As a child she had heard the Scottish ballad "The Bonny Earl of Murray" and had believed that one stanza went like this:

    Ye Highlands and Ye Lowlands
    Oh where hae you been?
    They hae slay the Earl of Murray,
    And Lady Mondegreen.

    Poor Lady Mondegreen, thought Sylvia Wright. A tragic heroine dying with her liege; how poetic. When it turned out, some years later, that what they had actually done was slay the Earl of Murray and lay him on the green, Wright was so distraught by the sudden disappearance of her heroine that she memorialized her with a neologism.

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  48. What about... by Ruliz+Galaxor · · Score: 1

    I'm really missing the basic geek words and phrases here: "series of tubes", "The Interwebs", "pwnage", etc.

  49. No more etymology? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess everything has to start somewhere, but it's mildly disappointing that many of these words have no real etymology. "Mondegreen" is a prime example. It literally is a conglomeration of unrelated syllables whose form gives no possible hint to its meaning, as opposed to "misinterpret," which means nearly the same thing but is derived from the commonly understood roots "mis-" (Old english, bad or wrongly) and "interpret."

    "Webinar" I suppose one already versed in English and modern culture could reasonably guess the meaning, but even it comes from a butchery of the roots. The internet, not the web is the primary element behind a webinar, and the key concept of a seminar over the internet is the "semen" (seed) root, not the "-ar" suffix (pertaining to), yet this .

    I'm not saying this is necessarily a bad thing, but it doesn't support a well-structured language.

  50. Let me be the first to say: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF is a mondegreen?!?! Away, foul gibberish!

  51. Re:Webinar? WTF? D'Oh! by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

    geeky terms just because he never watched pr0n before the internet.

    There, fixed that for you. Is "pr0n" considered a geeky term?

  52. Re:Malware... how is this different than Bloatware by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

    So this brings me to a tech question! How is this different than a term I've been hearing around the office, "Bloatware". The context for bloatware is cleaning crap off of a computer it came installed with, that generally slows down the darn thing.

    No. "Bloatware" would be like something written in Java or GNU /bin/true. The term you're looking for is "crapplet".

  53. pops ? by unity100 · · Score: 1

    you mean Pops McGillicudy ?