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Bootleg Tron 2 Trailer Is Out In the Wild
An anonymous reader writes "Gizmodo and Filmstalker are showing the Tron 2 (aka Tr2n) teaser from Comic-Con 08. From the Giz article: 'It's a tiny bootleg video, but I don't care. You can see that the 3D looks amazing, the new lightcycles are stunning (and move like real bikes), the world and the whole mood is Batman-like dark. And Jeff Bridges ... well, he is Jeff Bridges. What can I say, he looks like a badass version of The Dude. "It's just a game!" he shouts. No, it's not. It's Tr2n. At last. Note: excuse the excitement, but I saw the original in the movie theater, and 200 times after that. With War Games, it's what got me into technology when I was a kid, and ultimately here in Giz. The only thing that has me worried is that the characters in the computer world are fully 3D.'"
i don't give a shit.
This film looks killer, though the quality of the clip is very bootleg. There's so much potential (a 68.71% chance?) for subtle nerdy references in this...
Did anyone else notice that the yellow dude looked just like Rimmer? I hope he plays a thinly veiled UAC, that would be perfect.
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How do you even pronounce something like that? "Two" doesn't sound like the letter "O" nor does it look like one. Isn't "2" supposed to replace the letter "Z" or something?
Can someone with a major in L337-sp34k explain it?
I was going over dvds at netflix the other day and found out my wife never saw tron. bumped it to the top of my queue right away. now this. very cool. hopefully the teaser will be available through apple or something soon. looks interesting but this 'bootleg' version leaves a lot to be desired.
It's hard to believe that's how Micronians are made. Why don't we see it right now by having you both kiss one another?
Perhaps there should have been a warning on the video to get really close to the screen and tilt your head 45 degrees to the left. Otherwise, this video has restored my faith in humanity.
3D tr2n? No wonder you ended up in Giz.
Which I still remember as being a lousy movie even when I was a kid. Kept up the standard disney mediocrity from the Barefoot Executive to the Black Hole. Even the metaphors to how computers really worked seemed lame. The only area where the movie works for me is in the visuals.
Given the habit of subtitles and "addendums" in movie titles, we could have had: Tr2n: Tr0wnd Tr2n: 2Tron:2Troff Or if Capcom were producing it it would be Super Hyper Tr2n Alpha 2x2 Part One, Director's edition.
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So both the submitter *and* the /. editor failed to read the submission?
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Saw the original in theaters, can point out the hidden Mickey Mouse. Inspired me to become an avid gamer. /end of line
Why do I M2 everything negatively?
"With War Games, it's what got me into technology when I was a kid."
War Games is a very shitty movie because it's a cookie-cutter Hollywood movie. Boy accidentally hacks miltitary facility and tricks the computer(with a plot-driven AI) into believing there is a nuclear war going on. Now, he and his female friend(you see where this is going?) need the help of a bitter scientist(that sure is original) to stop the computer from launching nukes. The boy gets locked up but thanks to the incompentence of the security system and the people working there he escapes. They eventually let the computer run OXO against itself and just before hell breaks lose the computer understands that thermonuclear war can only result in all parties losing(why can't they simply command him to stop? Is his designer so much a dickwad that the computer does whatever it wants to do?). It all ends happily ever after and the boy and girl get together.
It's so cookie cutter that when I first saw it, I was disgusted because of all the hype(nostalgia) here on Slashdot.
War Games is
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How more remakes it will take before the audience gets fed up with it.
1. Make Tron in 1980's and lose money
2. Make sequel to the failure movie
3. ???
4. PROFIT!!!
Wouldn't investors want more details about step 3?
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x692m3_tr2n-cleaned-up-001_fun
Because it was annoying enough for me to figure out which links to click, and I want to save someone else from the effort.
So is this for real? Are they really making a sequel, or is this just some guy's fan-made video? It's pretty good, though. Even with the rough quality (or maybe because of it), it looks like they had guys really riding motorcycles like that, then added CGI over the live footage.
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While you are waiting for "Tron 2" go on ahead and play Armagetron. It's quite a lot of fun, and is one of the games of choice for my lan parties now. http://www.armagetronad.net/
If Microsoft produced Tron we'd have to wait for Tr3n for them to get it right.
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It's like an amateur version of Speed Racer. It looks like something somebody put together with Blender.
As a driving game, it looks like fun. As a movie, probably not.
I'm only 22, I was not alive when the original came out. The first time I heard of Tron was from the Simpson's Halloween special where they reference if anyone has seen the movie in which no one has seen it before. Sometime after that I saw in the TV Guide that Tron was going to be playing on the Disney channel. I watched it, it looked cool, it was pretty awesome, but I am also someone who loves sci-fi movies.
This movie is to cater one demand in entertainment (SCIFI - XMEN,BATMAN,ETC, these movies are making ass loads of cash for the industry currently) and also one demand from studios (REMAKES). I don't see it being a huge box office success but I bet it entertains.
When did it become a sin to try new concepts when you make a movie? Probably around the 44th remake of the Incredible Hulk.
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Wasnt Tron made on a PDP-10? for the time it was the coolest thing ever, now this movie needs to do that again, use the most advance 3d you can, (just PLEASE do not break out 3d glasses)
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Is that Chris Barrie at the end of the film segment? It certainly looks like him.
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WAAAAHHHGHGHGH, I am soooooo excited about this. I even use extra oooooo's in sooooo to illustrate my happiness.
seriously, tron was a huge part of my childhood. I used to have a VHS taped from a TV broadcast. I had the movie, and the commercials memorized. I would plant my ass in front of the TV, watch my Tron, and make my legos. I would be sitting there building a castle or something, and muttering the dialog along with the movie, then, the commercials would come on and I would continue: "Heart disease, kidney disease, and blindness, are all signs...".
Do you think we can merge with this memory, bit?
my older brother and sister had an intellivision,so I came up playing that. (I was born in 1981) my FAVORITE game was Tron, Deadly Discs. it remained my favorite game until the NES hit a few years later.
I used to get my parents to take me to chuck-e-cheese's (a pizza video game place if you are from far off lands, I am not a totally insensitive clod), and I would take all the tokens and pump them into the tron machine. Mom would say "wouldn't you like to try some other games?"....
"BUT MOOOOOM! I WANNA PLAY MY TRON! Can I watch my tron when I get home?"
"Kelly, you have seen that program a million times, don't you think you should get outside and play?"
"MOM! WHO YOU CALLIN A PROGRAM, PROGRAM?!?
"kelly you need your exercise"
"BUT MO-OM! I am playing the game and I wanna go watch the movie and make my legos!"
and so on
Bring in the logic probe! I can't wait anymore
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So much so, in fact, that it looks like a couple of guys riding bikes around a neon-lit soundstage. Woo-hoo.
Maybe I'm just a bitter old fart, but one of my problems with a lot of modern video games is that the physics are kind of in the uncanny valley for me -- they're undeniably much more realistic than they were when I was a teenage gaming geek a quarter of a century ago (and we used real quarters back then, whippersnapper!) but they're still not quite realistic enough, so I find them constantly distracting. The light cycles in the original Tron moved like they could, in fact, exist only in a video game universe; the scenes with them were maybe the only part of the movie where you could really believe you were seeing a world completely different from that outside the machine. If Tr2n has the almost-but-not-quite-real look of most modern video games, which is what the trailer seems to indicate, then it will be quite a disappointment ... maybe not to younger viewers, but to those of us who were teenagers when the original came out, and I think we're the target demographic here.
Ah, what the hell. Of course I'll go see it. ;)
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...so yeah, it's kind of assured the 3D animation will be state of the art.
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Nice.
If grandparent looks at the official logo, you'll see they've essentially mirrored the "R" to create the 2, as in Toys'R'Us, which no doubt will be where the real money gets made.
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Another reason was at the time it required absolutely no suspension of disbelief to consider that we actually all might die in a global thermonuclear war on the way home from the theater.
Two things:
1. In the future, programs will fight each other using Aerobies rather than Frisbees.
2. It's a helluva lot harder to get derezzed than it used to be.
Then the most powerful computer in the world, and they had to rent time on it because they couldn't afford to buy one. And it didn't actually render the final cells -- it created line drawings which then had to be hand painted by human animators. This is why people got so excited about Tron; it looked like something far ahead of its time.
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Oh really?
If I had a "real" bike, it could do anything.
NO limits.
NO rules.
You like being "limited"?
Whatever.
In the computer world I achieve MORE than god.
You can be a limited human for all I care.
Real bikes. Bah, Humbug.
They moved like real bikes in the original movie as well. It was only on the game grid that the lightcycles appeared to turn at right angles.
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Which I still remember as being a lousy movie even when I was a kid. Kept up the standard disney mediocrity from the Barefoot Executive to the Black Hole. Even the metaphors to how computers really worked seemed lame. The only area where the movie works for me is in the visuals.
I think you're being slightly harsh, but I agree that Tron isn't a particularly great movie overall- and also that the visuals are by far and away the best thing about it.
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To be fair, although I'm in my early thirties and old enough to have seen (and clearly remembered) Tron when it first came out, I didn't. (*) It wasn't until years later that I caught it on TV. That might colour my judgement- but also to be fair, I could say the same about the nostalgia of people who saw it as kids when it first came out.
Problem isn't just that the plot is flimsy, it's that the film never really makes you believe in the characters or care about what's at stake. The dialogue is clunky and the acting nothing special. I could tolerate the cheesiness, but not that.
So, no... Tron isn't- and never was- a Matrix for its times. Despite being a staple of 80s "nostalgia", its influence on most people at the time was minimal. However, I do think it's visually and technically brilliant, and although some aspects of its attempt to bring the then-new computer culture to the mainstream were quite cheesy, it deserves some credit for the attempt (and has to be seen in the context of the time).
I could say more, but I already said a lot of what I wanted to say in two previous posts; why I think trying to make a Tron sequel after 20-25 years is pointless and why Tron's true technical achievements with pre-digital film-matte animation went sadly unrecognised. Both with Score:5 goodness
(*) I did, however, get to see ET, like most other people did. Vastly overrated film, I never liked it.
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Are they aware that 2 doesn't represent o? Or are they hoping people will say Trrn like Tron?
Reminds me of the time the movie pronounced Seven decided to be named Se7en. Stupid mistake even if 1337 speak wasn't widespread enough for Hollywood in 1997.
Wait, I'm confused. Wasn't Tron 2.0 considered the sequel to the first movie?
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.. that it will be done by Pixar. The trailer was produced and presented by Disney, and if it's true this will be Pixar's first work on live-action film (akaik anyway). Also I think that fact alone (if turns out to be true) is enough to make me, and most others I assume, want to see the film. If for no other reason then to see how Pixar's brilliance transfers to live-action.
That's what you'll remember about a documentary you saw 25 years ago -- it was the fastest PDP10, not the fastest computer. And some of the cells were hand painted, not all of them. I stand corrected and edumacated.
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Here is a still from the film..
http://www.tronguy.net/images/headshot-web.jpg
The original Tron had the same impact that the original Star Wars(what you younger people know as 'Episode 4') had on us, which is probably the same as LOTR had on you.
It was new technology and very exciting, and for a 14 year old, Tron blew my mind! This was the first CG movie - albeit not totally, but enough to make us salivate at the possibilities.
It may be just another movie for y'all, but trust me, every one of us children of the 80's are busting a gut right now. Allow us our excitement!
Does it have David Warner, aka "Master Control Program"? Best. Movie Villian Actor. Evar.
I saw Tron when I was 10, and I thought it was amazing. I still think it is an amazing movie even today. Why do people get hung up on stories having to have this amazing storyline to them. I love how vague parts of the story are AND how simple they are. Computers were much more simple then and to me it really reflects the kind of processing limitations and freedom of imagination at that time. I can say that it completely influenced by desire to work with computers, work with animation, and more importably work with VR stuff while I was in college. Are there movies with better visuals and better stories? Of course, but at 10 years old, I was blown away. I guess it really depends when you saw it as to how much it means to you. And I agree, I think that is Chris Barrie (Arnold Rimmer from Red Dwarf) in the end of the segment. WAY TOO young looking to be David Warner AND the wrong color ! :)
that the bad guys are some sort of file sharing program.
The obvious question, of course, is: Will Tron Guy be in the movie? At least a cameo?
And since he's probably more than a little responsible for putting the bug in some movie exec's ear to make TR2N, will be feel cheated if it makes a bijillion dollars?
(I saw the original as a teen - the movie and the quarter-eating video game were "teh shit", as the kids say nowadays. Now get off my lawn.)
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Maybe these changes will be explained as having to do with computer advances or something, but I find them jarring.
What's with all this waiting - nobody is getting any younger you know!
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sudo apt-get install armagetron
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Speed Racer showed us physics-defying CGI cars, and pretended that it was happening in the real world. The result was, hmmm, kinda sucky. TR2N, otoh, is going to give us physics-defying CGI light-cycles, but admit that it's all happening in an unreal world. I expect that this movie will be a visual orgasm.
PS I watched that trailer five times before coming back here to post this.
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was the original movie that great? or is it just nerd chic... regardless, you can just play armagetron with similar affect as that really crappy cam. while on the topic thoughm 0.5/10 video/ shit. that shitty of a cam should be illegal
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The good news: George Lucas is not involved in this one, but rumor is that Pixar may be.
At first, I was going to cry, "Bullshit", but then I thought about it a bit more. On the 25th anniversay DVD, John Lassiter tells us that TRON inspired him to get into CGI animation, and let's face it, any one of us could replicate TRON's special effects at home today. The day after Disney acquired Pixar, I could see Lassiter saying, "OK, I want to do my first live action movie, and I want it to be TRON". With all those pitch-black backgrounds and such, that trailer does't need the CPU cycles that even the original Toy Story required; Pixar could do all the needed effects for the movie using their secretaries' computers during lunch. What TRON needs is a good story, and story is exactly what sets Pixar ahead of everyone else doing CGI these days.
Yeah, I can see Pixar wanting to stretch a bit, create something a bit darker and more adult than their previous efforts. I can see TR2N being that movie.
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When yesterday I heard of Tr2n for the first time I got so excited I almost ... ;-) I really love the original movie, but this has been sad so many times already.
However, I got really annoyed by the fact(?) that the characters in the forthcoming movie are going to be fully 3D -- just like in *arg* Beowulf.
Regarding the original movie I especially liked the real-human characters. What moron (sorry) had the idea to make them 3D, too? Admittedly the "Image synthesis industry" has improved very very much when it comes to human characters, but hey.........
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How is their funding?
If it's weak, has anyone set up an account for donations?
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And quite frankly... It was consistently better than the crap you are fed. See, we got to watch Star Wars (and Han shot first!) you were sold the sanitized and commercialized after-births. We got Tron, you haven't had anything like it. (No, the matrix is not nearly as innovative, visually inspiring or thought provoking.) We got Blade Runner too and Alien. You got nothing or poor sequels.
The fact that you don't "get it", Mr. Burton speaks volumes of your generation. Yes, Tron 2 will probably be a disappointment to those of us that chose jobs, hobbies and careers because of the magic we experienced with Tron. But at least we had that magic once.
And that's just talking about movies. I can mention literature, music and art examples too. All going back thousands of years. Your generation is culturally bankrupt.
Why don't you put down the console controller and iPod long enough to get out and experience some of the things that occurred prior to your birth (which, by the way, was also clearly another entirely un-noteworthy event in the history of your generation.)
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(That's Hamlet by the way written by another imaginative fellow long before your time.)
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That's a sequel I want to see....
"Why do people get hung up on stories having to have this amazing storyline to them. I love how vague parts of the story are AND how simple they are."
I wish to heck that I still had my copy of the paperback that filled in some of the details. There was more to it than ended up in the movie. Folks, I don't know who the author of that book knew in the industry, but he definitely knew at least one person who would qualify as "one of us."
The back story in the paperback, which was definitely G-rated but also definitely not targeted to 10-year-olds, described a life that many of us who've ever done corporate software development know (both the good and the bad sides). I was just getting my start in the industry, in school, at the time, but even then I could tell that this movie told a story about my still-nascent subculture. It did so in a manner that was more "The Soul of a New Machine" (Tracy Kidder) than it was "Office Space". It was the stuff of geek fantasy for a workaday programmer to end up in a video game -- and have his/her real life relationship interest in there, too. To fight good vs. evil, in an even more straighforward manner than we did in those all-day, all-night Saturday D&D sessions in college.
As improbable as it was, in a society where geekdom was still this thing hidden behind combination-lock doors, someone in Hollywood made a decent attempt at telling our story. And they did it in a way that even those who were not yet in the industry, but who felt the pull of technology, "got it".
Tron rocks. I had the book. I had the CALENDAR. I still know the question-mark-shaped pattern for one of the light cycle levels on the original arcade game, and could probably still blast gridbugs with the best of them. (Anyone know where to find a Tron game in the Seattle / Eastside area so that I can test that theory?)
Here's a zoomed and stabilized version of the bootlegged trailer:
http://tron2trailer.blogspot.com/
How do you even pronounce something like that? "Two" doesn't sound like the letter "O" nor does it look like one.
It definitely violates L337 sp34k convention, but if you take the typeface into account it's a valid permutation of "TRON 2". Compare the logos of the two movies- the top half of the "O" and the "2" are identical. The only variation is in the bottom half of the character. Sure it's contrived from a phonetic standpoint, but visually it works.
Disclaimer: I just watched the vid for the first time and am bursting with excitement over this, so for the moment at least I'm in complete NRE/"They can do no wrong" mode. :-)
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I've beaten it at least ten times
Wow. And here I thought that I was the biggest fan of the game around! I've only beaten it 3 times, but it definitely ranks among my top 2 games of all time (possibly behind Deus Ex).
I've considered TRON 2.0 to be "the" sequel to TRON. The story, the visual style, the music, and the overall execution make it a more than worthy successor to the original movie, taking everything that made TRON special, expanding upon it, and updating it while remaining completely true to the original. A long while back I downloaded a script for a proposed sequel to TRON, and despite being an actual movie script it still fell far short of TRON 2.0's storyline.
And therein lies my only concern about TR2N. Even though it's "just" a video game, TRON 2.0 sets the bar very high indeed for a sequel. The ComicCon video clip is stunning, but they're still going to have to do something very special to make a sequel that lives up to TRON 2.0.
As an aside, the only aspect of TRON 2.0 that I didn't love was the Green Hornets light cycle circuit. I was able to beat it (3 times), but it's insanely difficult! Your thoughts?
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The next one will obviously feature light-trains instead of light-cycles and will be set in a Spanish-speaking locale.
Hasn't anyone suggested "Tron++" yet?
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