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Large Hadron Collider Goes Live September 10th
Naznarreb writes "CERN announced today that the first attempt to circulate a beam through the Large Hadron Collider will be on September 10th, 2008. You can read the press release here. They also announced the event will be webcast live. According to the release, they're just planning to run a few tests laps, not smash any particles, so the world won't be ending quite yet." And despite that September 10th date, according to the BBC, "On 9 August, protons will be piped through LHC magnets for the first time."
And will take 1 day to warm up right?
Did we ever reach an agreement about those micro-black-holes?
It is a good day to die !!!!!
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two bad nobody will even be able to care who called it.
They actually start smashing particles the next day. Which is Sept. 11. Oh, wait...
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I can see it now...
:)
Dr. Dieter Kriegstien: "Acceleratz protonz to maximumn speedz. Dr. Smitz, please pushz zat big ved button."
Dr. Keron Smith: "Pushing big button... you meant the blue one didn't you Dr. Kriegstien?"
Dr. Dieter: "Insolenze...vait... vat iz dat veading on zee scopz? Hmm.. it lookz like a microsopikz vack ol..."
And at this point, the entire mass of the Earth is sucked into a minature black hole the size of a pinhead over a period of 2 microseconds.
Of course, in reality, this is as likely as me winning a superball jackpot lottery, 10'000 timse in a row. But I just CAN'T HELP MYSELF!
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Ok. Sept 10 plus one day to warm up. Sheeze couldn't they have picked another date for the end of the world?
Ok, in the Naked Science episode which featured the Large Hadron gizmo they said that some people are concerned that "the micro black holes they create could consume an *entire* city..." then they paused for a short while and added "... and the entire earth!". Love that pause.
Other than that I got nothing.
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Unless, of course, we're finally in the timeline where the LHC never quite works.
OR the timeline where you're the only non-cloned human left alive, surrounded by clones of your ex-girlfriend. Then you'll wish you didn't get on her bad side right before 'the accident'.
FARNSWORTH: So what are you doing to protect my constitutional right to bear doomsday devices?
N.R.A. MAN: Well, first off, we're gonna get rid of that three-day waiting period for mad scientists.
FARNSWORTH: Damn straight! Today, the mad scientist can't get a doomsday device, tomorrow it's the mad grad student. Where will it end?
Looks like 9 September will be a good day to charge up my HEV suit and sharpen my crowbar...
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A red crowbar has been sent to CERN in anticipation of the LHC particle accelerator going online.
http://www.destructoid.com/reddit-sends-crowbar-to-scientists-to-protect-against-headcrabs-98281.phtml
Advice to the scientists: When you first get back up after the explosion, make sure to stay away from the lip of the pit one screen to your left.
Yeees.. His predictions always seem to come true.
Assuming you count people interpreting them to fit past events as coming true. I can't remember a single instance of someone interpreting Nostradamus as predicting something *before* it actually happens, and in fact having just that happen.
Darn the LHC is only number eight on the list. http://www.livescience.com/technology/destroy_earth_mp-1.html
Sucked into a microscopic black hole
You will need: a microscopic black hole. Note that black holes are not eternal, they evaporate due to Hawking radiation. For your average black hole this takes an unimaginable amount of time, but for really small ones it could happen almost instantaneously, as evaporation time is dependent on mass. Therefore you microscopic black hole must have greater than a certain threshold mass, roughly equal to the mass of Mount Everest. Creating a microscopic black hole is tricky, since one needs a reasonable amount of neutronium, but may possibly be achievable by jamming large numbers of atomic nuclei together until they stick. This is left as an exercise to the reader. [I love that part].
Method: simply place your black hole on the surface of the Earth and wait. Black holes are of such high density that they pass through ordinary matter like a stone through the air. [Yeah, so then how will I place it *on* the Earth. Lousy instructions.] The black hole will plummet through the ground, eating its way to the center of the Earth and all the way through to the other side: then, it'll oscillate back, over and over like a matter-absorbing pendulum. Eventually it will come to rest at the core, having absorbed enough matter to slow it down. Then you just need to wait, while it sits and consumes matter until the whole Earth is gone.
Highly, highly unlikely. But not impossible.
Earth's final resting place: a singularity of almost zero size, which will then proceed to happily orbit the Sun as normal.
Source: "The Dark Side Of The Sun," by Terry Pratchett. It is true that the microscopic black hole idea is an age-old science fiction mainstay which predates Pratchett by a long time, he was my original source for the idea, so that's what I'm putting.
If nothing comes from this demonstration but a black hole it will definitely suck.
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Your statement is true even if they never turn on the LHC.
http://largehardoncollider.com/nyt_lhc.html
Yes, I'll probably get modded troll or something for this, but it needs saying.
There's many comments in here about "oh, what about Sept. 11... couldn't they pick a better day?" and the like.
NEWS FLASH: The rest of the world does NOT come to a screeching halt every Sept. 11th. All points of business are NOT put on hold on that one day of the year. The rest of the world has moved on, if they even stopped to begin with. GET OVER IT!
LHC isn't even located in the USA for christ sakes.
Yes, the Sept. 11 events were sad, but seriously... stop criticizing all events taking place somewhere on earth on or around that date.
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Could you imagine what it would be like to be on the ISS when the earth is destroyed by a LHC mbh.
The earth would fold up, only a 1% consumption would be needed to make it impossible to land on the earth and survive, but if the earth all went in a few hours or less. wow. And with the angular momemtum of the earth, the mbh would have to rotate on the earth's axis and the mbh would send its radiation beams away from the iss so the iss could be survivable from that prospective. Also, the aero drag would be gone and so orbital reboost would not be needed. I wonder how long they could survive? Also, since the mass of the earth/mbh doesn't change, all those nasty time-drag effects won't happen at the orbital distance of the iss.
It would make a nice sci-fi short story noir if a multi-year survival could be speculated.
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No it's not. The Corsairs saying it is (very likely) in reference to the Warcraft II cheat code. Which, I'm guessing, is a reference to something else.
OR the timeline where you're standing on the beach with one girl you never quite dared to ask out, watching bloody chunks of the 500-mile-tall version of the other girl you never quite dared to ask out fall back to earth, and everyone else has been dissolved into a global ocean of yellow goo.
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Can people here drop the inane "we're all gonna die" meme in regards to the LHC? It's not funny and it perpetuates some silly myth that the mainstream media can pick up on. I would like to think that /. is a little better than fark (is fark still around?); Isn't the readership here a bit more educated?
Every LHC story has more "jokes" than any talk of potential new physics or any discussion on whether this beast will even work. It's a damn sight more complicated than any facility previously built, and even though I desperately want it to work, I have my doubts we'll see first collisions within the first year of operations.
If the LHC is a failure, it essentially signals the end (in our lifetime, at least) of any more high-energy physics programs being pursued, especially in the US. The ILC has already been tabled pending first results from LHC.
That date is picked from the fact that the accelerator guys tell us they need two months from the end of the beam pipe bake-out (right about this weekend) to get "a circulating beam".
Now, what does this mean?
It means that there are good odds that they will be able to get at least one pilot bunch of protons in stable circulation by that date. We're not talking about the full ~3600 bunches and most important: There will be no beam in the other direction. IOW all we will be doing up until some time November is to do comissioning with beam-gas interactions (there is always residual gas in the beam pipe).
If we're lucky we will have a few weeks of actual collisions this year. I don't want to think of the odds that they will be at anything approaching 10 TeV. 14 TeV is already out of the question due to a couple of bending magnets that can't sustain the current needed.
This press release just shows that management want to report something big. In fact it would probably be better for the accelerator people to commision both beams at the same time but that would of course postpone the big party...
...is that you can't spell, and you're talking about antimatter and hydrogen bombs.
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