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Lucas Researching Concept For New Indiana Jones Film

Cycon writes "According to George Lucas, 'The franchise really depends on me coming up with a good idea. And that series is very research-intensive. So we're doing research now to see if we can't come up with another object for him to chase ... hopefully we'll come up with something.' Lucas 'scoffed at the possibility of passing the famed fedora from Ford to Shia LaBeouf,' instead stating, 'if [Harrison Ford] wasn't in it, you'd have to call it "Mutt Williams and the search for Elvis."'"

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  1. Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by beh · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's plenty he could be going after:

    Indiana Jones and the Clump Of Dark Matter

    Indiana Jones and the RIAA lawsuit about him touching the Ark Of The Covenant (without seeking prior license from the Vatican) ...?

    1. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by Zekasu · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was thinking along the lines of, "Indiana Jones and the Search for the Higgs Boson, coming to a theater near you October 21, 2008."

    2. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by mfnickster · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Raiders of the Lost Medicine Cabinet"

      "Indiana Jones and the Child-proof Cap"

      "Indiana Jones and the Walker of Doom"

      "Indiana Jones and the Damn Kids on His Lawn"

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    3. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Indiana Jones and why George Lucas Keeps Ruining Every Saga He Created When He Was Young"

    4. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by PJCRP · · Score: 2, Funny

      Indiana Jones and the Iron Lung

      Indiana Jones and the Legend of the Pharmaceutical Store

      Indiana Jones and the Tale of Arthritis

      Indiana Jones, Raiders of the Lost Dentures

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    5. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by Swampash · · Score: 5, Funny

      Indiana Jones and the Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction

    6. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by Cycon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It seems to me that Lucas' first movie, THX 1138 can be seen as an allegory for his career. The "American Zoetrope" production house he formed with Francis Ford Coppola back in the revolutionary days of the late '60s in San Francisco was all about the independent thinker escaping from the machine of control and exploitation which was the "old boys'" movie studio system at the time.


      ***SPOILER ALERT***
      At the end of the movie, when he has finally escaped and is free of the system (as Lucas is now free and able to produce any movie he chooses from conception through to finished product) the protagonist finds him system alone, in the middle of a barren wasteland. All credit to Lucas for escaping the machine, but it sees his imagination is just as empty these days.

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    7. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by rhyder128k · · Score: 5, Funny

      Indiana Jones and the Time He Went Over to Shelbyville During the War.

      He wore a bullwhip on his belt. Which was the style at the time.

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    8. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by smittyoneeach · · Score: 4, Funny

      Indiana Jones and the Natalie Portman Figurine

      Indiana Jones and the Lost Netcraft Confirmation

      Indiana Jones and the Steven King Demise Report

      and, finally,

      InSovietDiana, Raiders of the Temple of the Crusade of the Skull are Jonezin' for you!

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    9. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by Kavli · · Score: 3, Funny

      What about the obvious "Indiana Jones and the Hunt for Duke Nukem Forever"?

    10. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by weetabeex · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Great research method: post it on slashdot and get everyone doing the job for you!

    11. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What about the obvious "Indiana Jones and the Hunt for Duke Nukem Forever"?

      I wanted "Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis: The movie" :(

    12. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by hiryuu · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ***SPOILER ALERT***
      At the end of the movie, when he has finally escaped and is free of the system (as Lucas is now free and able to produce any movie he chooses from conception through to finished product) the protagonist finds him system alone, in the middle of a barren wasteland. All credit to Lucas for escaping the machine, but it sees his imagination is just as empty these days.

      Rather than comment on the film ending being a metaphor for Lucas' career and ability, I just wanted to remark that I always found it quite disconcerting that, for once, the film had the bleak ending and the _book_ (Ben Bova's novelization of Lucas' screenplay) had the happily-ever-after. Was never sure which one I preferred.
       

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    13. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by flappinbooger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I read the biography of GL, that was also an analysis of star wars, that made it's rounds a few months back. I found his early career fascinating.

      I think what GL needs again is what all talented and admittedly gifted artistic people need. Pressure. They create, they need to create, because that's all they got going for them. That's their tool, they use it because they have to. Pressure to create.

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    14. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by fyngyrz · · Score: 2, Funny

      After how poor the last one was -- crystal skull -- I'm probably done with 'em anyway. I nearly bailed after that one with the incredibly annoying kid, but Lucas redeemed himself through Sean Connery's good auspices. That kid was the Jar Jar Binks / Ewok of IJ movies. Precocious, annoying children only amuse mothers in the full flush of new-kid hormones, and grandparents who snicker at the parents trying to handle them. The rest of us just want to stuff them into a barrel and pound in the bung.

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    15. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by Stuart+Gibson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not going to work - Indy always finds what he goes looking for.

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    16. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by Ebirah · · Score: 2, Funny

      Perhaps they could make

      "The Indiana Jones Holiday Special"

      as an interim measure.

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    17. Re:Lucas obviously doesn't read slashdot... by KGIII · · Score: 4, Funny

      The rest of us just want to stuff them into a barrel and pound in the bung.

      I'm pretty sure you're not supposed to want to do that to kids, no matter how annoying they are.

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  2. I know what kind of object they need by evwah · · Score: 2, Funny

    It has to be some kind of magical totem that will resurrect the desiccated corpse of the franchise.

  3. I know by twatter · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about introducing a strange new character that behaves in an obnoxious way, speaks in unintelligible patois and causes everyone to flinch whenever he's onscreen. He could be called Shortstop Bingo and be Indy's trusty right-hand fuck up.

    Surely this would totally enhance the franchise.

  4. James Bond with whips by mcvos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lucas 'scoffed at the possibility of passing the famed fedora from Ford to Shia LaBeouf,' instead stating, 'if [Harrison Ford] wasn't in it, you'd have to call it "Mutt Williams and the search for Elvis."'

    I think Lucas missed an opportunity to turn Indiana Jones into a James Bond-like franchise. Some months ago I read that it was originally sold as "James Bond with nazis and ancient treasures", and I think it would have been a great idea to keep it perpetually in a pre-WW2 setting with nazis and zeppelins, and replace the main actor if he gets too old.

    Although ofcourse no other Indiana Jones could ever compare to Harrison Ford.

    1. Re:James Bond with whips by Broken+Toys · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Mal was too moody and unpredictable.

      Characters in Lucas films aren't permitted to have the same degree of emotional complexity as the audience.

  5. Pffffft.... by VE3OGG · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Lucas whining about "research" is laughable.

    Granted, Raiders of the Lost Ark had some interesting stories in it, and did at least deal with some research, but I would say the amount of true "research" in Indiana Jones films has been dropping geometrically.

    Indeed, The Last Crusade, other then repeating the Romantic-era story about the grail that so many people already knew, gave no new information and instead focused on the relationship between Indy and his father.

    And Crystal Skull -- from what people have told me about it is even worse. Dealing with a completely fictional back story that doesn't represent anything presently known about the crystal skulls, nor anything that is written about widely in popular paranormal literature.

    No one is saying that Indiana Jones isn't a fabulous example of those serial movies from the 40s and 50s, but I am arguing that the amount of research is mind-numbingly small.

    And who here thinks that this statement:

    "The franchise really depends on me"

    Isn't just a bit egotistical... *cough*Phantom Menace*cough*

    1. Re:Pffffft.... by hairyfeet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What I want to know is this: Is Lucas out of money? Gambling debts,an expensive mistress or three to pay for? Surely he is making enough off of the "real" Star Wars trilogy,right? If he still has money why in the name of all that is good and decent in the universe is he determined to destroy every good thing he created in his youth. What's next, American Graffiti the next generation? Seriously WTH is Lucas thinking,either come up with some new ideas or sit on your money and quietly retire. But please quit screwing up our collective past with crap like,well,pretty much everything Lucas has done for the past decade and a half. But as always this is my 02c,YMMV.

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    2. Re:Pffffft.... by c · · Score: 4, Insightful

      > Seriously WTH is Lucas thinking, either come up with some new ideas or
      > sit on your money and quietly retire.

      If you kept coming up with stupid ideas, lousy plots, terrible actors, and every nerd on the planet still paid money to see it (often multiple times), do you think maybe you'd be getting a bit of a mixed message? What, is he supposed to listen to critics? If half your "fan base" consisted of people like "Comic Book Guy", you'd probably learn to ignore them pretty quickly.

      If you don't like Lucas' stuff, stop giving him your money.

      c.

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  6. Re:Shia LaBeouf the new indiana jones by Hansu · · Score: 5, Informative

    I haven't seen the new indiana jones movie yet

    Consider yourself lucky. Once you have seen it, it can't be unseen.

    My eyes, the goggles do nothing!

    seriously it's crap.

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  7. Shit by RinzeWind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The franchise really depends on me coming up with a good idea

    We're fucked.

    1. Re:Shit by mikelieman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The franchise is DEAD. This last iteration, "Indiana Jones and the Crystal McGuffin" put a bullet in it.

      George, STOP LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE TELLING YOU THAT YOU'RE GOOD.

      They're lying to you.

      Your last good idea you had was hiring Irvin Kershner and Leigh Brackett and Lawrence Kasdan for Empire.

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    2. Re:Shit by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 2

      No, we aren't. Sorry if you don't agree, but I quite enjoyed his newer work, as well as his older. Hell, Episode 3 was the crowning achievement in the Star Wars saga, what with having an actual interesting plot and all.

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    3. Re:Shit by WrongMonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hell, Episode 3 was the crowning achievement in the Star Wars saga, what with having an actual interesting plot and all.

      NoooooOOOOOOOooooooo!

    4. Re:Shit by VoidEngineer · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually, from what I understand, Ford signed up for 5 movies in his original contract. There was a massive delay between #3 and #4 because Lucas was insistent on doing one with aliens, and Ford kept balking at the script (justifiably so, imho). They finally found a script that was tolerable, considering the plot concept, and it got made. But Ford is still signed up for one more movie. So, regardless of people telling Lucas that he's good or not, there's one more movie to be made, according to the contracts.

  8. Indiana Jones... by PJCRP · · Score: 2, Funny

    And The Raiders of the Lost Death Star? Temple of the Lost Jedi? Last Strike of the Empire?

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  9. If they want to revive the franchise... by iapetus · · Score: 5, Funny

    Indiana Jones and the Still Beating Heart of George Lucas

    Seriously, if the franchise really depends on Lucas coming up with a good idea, they might as well call it a day right now.

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  10. The latest indy by TheLink · · Score: 4, Informative

    I actually set my expectations low, cranked my IQ down and set suspension of disbelief to high. After all it's Indy Jones, you're not supposed to be thinking too much.

    But when Indy Jones did the ball bearings stuff, those Standard Indy settings started to show their shortcomings... I went "OK turn off physics"

    Things totally fell apart when Tarzan Boy started swinging from tree to tree. I had to do some major changes at that point. How does that add to the story line or show?

    I enjoyed the first one and temple of doom was ok. This one, save your money/bandwidth. Go watch something else. I heard Batman is good.

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    1. Re:The latest indy by mcvos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I enjoyed the first one and temple of doom was ok.

      Please tell me you've seen The Last Crusade. That's possibly the best of the bunch, certainly rivaling Raiders.

    2. Re:The latest indy by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 5, Funny

      I am not an archaeologist but I would imagine that the holy grail of Archaeology is THE HOLY GRAIL

      Archaeology is the search for fact. Not truth.So forget any ideas you've got about lost cities, exotic travel, and digging up the world. We do not follow maps to buried treasure and "X" never, ever, marks the spot.

    3. Re:The latest indy by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was disappointed at the latest Indy as well. It simply lacks the "mystic aura" that the other Indy movies have.

      Raiders of the lost Ark: Ancient egyptian maps. Booby traps. The second half of a map that the Nazis lack. An infinitely powerful artifact. GOD's power.

      Indiana Jones and the temple of Doom: Evil cults engaged in bloodthirsty rituals. The stones of the gods. Actual jungles with vampires. Passageways filled with all kind of creepy bugs.

      Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade: Medieval writings of a Franciscan Friar. Biblical elements. The cup of Christ. Ancient roman catacombs hidden below a Church turned Library. A society designed to protect the secret of the grail. Henry Jone's Grail Diary. The canyon of the crescent moon. Three lethal tests to prove your faith.

      Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: Whee, communists searching for alien artifacts in a jungle so fake it looks like a walk in the park! Hey, is that James Dean? Whee, look, aliens!

      I want my childhood back! :( :( :(

    4. Re:The latest indy by Boronx · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ********* SPOILER *************

      Mostly agreed, but they did one up the last crusade with the Atom Bomb, an artifact that was thoroughly modern and far more dangerous and powerful than any of the mythological stuff Indy had run into before.

      It's an interesting comparison with Raiders: Hitler wanted the Ark (and the Grail) so that his armies of darkness could march over the face of the earth. Americans simply built a better ark.

    5. Re:The latest indy by nine-times · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I actually set my expectations low, cranked my IQ down and set suspension of disbelief to high. After all it's Indy Jones, you're not supposed to be thinking too much.

      I don't mean this as an attack on you, but I *hate* when people say that about movies. "Hey, it's just a fun movie. Turn your brain off and have fun!" No. I'm all for suspension of disbelief, but only when a movie earns it. A good movie (even if it's just a fun movie) sucks you in and makes you to suspend your disbelief. If you have to put effort into suspending your disbelief, then the movie isn't doing its job. If you have to fight with yourself to ignore the stupidity, then it's just a bad movie.

      Now believe me, I don't nit-pick. I loved the first Matrix movie, the first Indiana Jones. The original Star Wars trilogy, Pirates of the Caribbean, Spiderman, the recent Batman movies and old Superman movies (1&2). I could go on and on, and all of these movies have their problems. There are things that are physically impossible, and plenty of unexplained plot-holes that you can catch if you're looking at them with a particularly critical eye.

      BUT!!! If you watch them in a state of mind that's neutral, I think you'll probably find them to be enjoyable without trying (ok, the Superman movies haven't aged that well). But beyond the enjoyability factor, each of them also has a certain degree of depth and quality. It's clear that they were crafted by some people will skill and talent, and there's some mythological value. They're commenting on our world, our times, our society. They're revealing things about what we think about heroism and life. They wouldn't be enjoyable if they weren't successfully pushing some serious psychological buttons.

      So when people think "these sorts of movies are fun, just turn off your brain", I think it's missing the point, and it's being overly-dismissive of the value of *good* fantasy/adventure stories. You shouldn't have to turn off your brain. The movie should convince you to forgive a couple flaws because, ignoring those flaws, it's a damn good piece of work.

      So back to the topic at hand: Lucas is currently a crappy film-maker. It seems like he didn't used to be, but he is now. The latest Indiana Jones doesn't earn the suspension of disbelief necessary to forgive its faults. Even before the fridge gets nuked, there's the magnetic crap, the overly-convenient rocket-train, and a nuclear test site that's overly-accessible without warning signs. Not a damned thing in the movie made sense, the characters weren't believable, and the story didn't fit into the Indiana Jones universe.

      I think part of the problem is the Lucas has bought into the idea that it's good to make movies where you "turn your brain off and have fun." So rather than making anything good, he makes movies filled with precocious children, lame actions scenes, and characters literally yelling, "Wooohooo!" It's all retarded, and we should just stop giving the man the benefit of the doubt.

      I think this is as good a case as any to support short copyright terms. Star Wars should have become public domain 10 years ago, and filmmakers with talent should be allowed to have a go at making a new Indiana Jones story.

    6. Re:The latest indy by bckrispi · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I got the same feeling. What's the point in chasing after an artifact that gives you a tactical advantage on the battlefield (the Ark, possibly the grail) when both Superpowers now have weapons capable of incinerating entire nations? The Zeitgeist of the film was certainly different than its predecessors. In Raiders, academics were trusted by their government and honored for their expertise. In Crystal Skull, they were distrusted as possible Communists. It was a different America, and the film captured that feeling very well.

      And, like the insipid prequel-bashing that goes on here, much of the hate directed at crystal skull was widely undeserved. It had some flaws, but it was still a fun adventure flick.

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  11. Re:Maybe I am strange... by bennomatic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Picture that movie in 3-D! With an NC-17 rating...

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  12. Re:Maybe I am strange... by Rogerborg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If they want to keep Ford in it, then they're going to have to move the setting to a nursing home, which would segue nicely with the Elvis angle.

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  13. Re:Maybe I am strange... by 1u3hr · · Score: 4, Informative
    ... but "Mutt Williams and the search for Elvis" seems like it could be ok.

    Check out Bubba Ho-Tep. It's got mummies. It's got Elvis. It's got BRUCE CAMPBELL.

  14. Incredibly lame by HEbGb · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Lucas is going to completely destroy the franchise, just like he did with Star Wars. Clearly he has no new ideas whatsoever, as he's prefer to spend his energy squeezing every drop of life out of a one-successful brand rather than continue to create new quality films. He should be ashamed of himself.

    1. Re:Incredibly lame by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What do you mean 'going to'?

  15. Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis by dalmiroy2k · · Score: 4, Interesting
  16. Subject by Legion303 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The franchise really depends on me coming up with a good idea."

    George Lucas hasn't had a good idea since about 1982. Well, I guess not passing the fedora to Shia LaBeouf would be a good idea if Lucas had given the correct reason for it: Shia can't act.

  17. Breaking...Indy V working title by PietjeJantje · · Score: 2, Funny

    Following the big financial success of Indy IV, Lucas has decided to further pursue the theme of self parodying absurdities.
    Mel Brooks has been cast as the new Indy. Rick Moranis is close to being signed as the new bad guy.
    Work title: Indiana Jones and The Power of The Schwartz.

  18. Here comes the cross over by Layth · · Score: 2, Funny

    Indiana Jones and the Portal of Tatooine

    "Dr. Jones discovers the lost continent of Atlantis, containing a portal that jarringly thrusts him backwards though time, to a land far far away. After pooling resources with a seemingly kind hearted philanthropist by the name of palpatine, they leverage indi's scientific earth-knowledge of stem cells to construct a device that elicits a rapid growth in users midi-chlorian count. After mysteriously falling into the wrong hands, it becomes predictably obvious that the galaxies last, best hope for peace requires Jedi Jones to fly his ship into an enemies space station and blow it up from within."

  19. Fate of Atlantis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    To anyone who's played Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis, why don't/didn't they make that into a movie? Thought the story line was great and would have made a watchable movie.

  20. come on guys! by ramul · · Score: 2, Insightful
    george lucas' attitude makes for unintentional humour sometimes if you ask me

    eg anakin and his bitch rolling around in field of grass . ahhh, heartwarming

  21. Obviously theres a market for it! by voss · · Score: 3, Interesting

    711 million worldwide box office.

    Harrison Ford looked pretty good in the current film, I think they were just let down by the script and the film still did well.

    The main problem for any sequel with the current film is that it gave indy his happy ending, theres nowhere to go with the character....

  22. "Sometimes, dead is better." by John+Guilt · · Score: 2, Funny

    When we saw "Pet Sematary" at a horror movie marathon, we were all getting a bit tired, so the comments flew fast. A major line in the film, referring to a spot of ground with the ability to resurrect pets buried in't (but it brings them back...wrong), was "Anyone ever bury a person up there?"

    When, in the film, a truck crashed and totalled, , someone yelled out, "Anyone ever bury a truck up there?" I forget if it were I or my dear who shouted, "Anyone ever bury a script up there?

    "Anyone ever bury a franchise up there?" Yes, Timmy, by all appearances, someone did.

  23. Set it in South Fla by grumling · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ' Lucas 'scoffed at the possibility of passing the famed fedora from Ford to Shia LaBeouf,'

    Indiana Jones and the Fountain of Youth.

    After all, Harrison Ford is eligible for Medicare as of last year.

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  24. Ever played the graphic adventure? by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was a big fan of Lucasfilm's Indy games. The Last Crusade took me back to enjoying the "hidden parts that never appeared in the movie".

    But the Fate of Atlantis was even better. Just take a look at some Indy 4 screenshots.

    First of all, you got this archaeological dig in Iceland. Then the Azores. Then the mayan jungle of Tikal. Also, you make a stop at Monaco and have a seance with the holder of an ancient atlantean disc. AND you have to rescue him from being kidnapped by the Nazis. Later, you go to the desert and have to deal with a greedy arab merchant. Later you take a balloon to Crete and find yourself trapped in THE labyrinth. Finally you have to steal a Nazi U-boat and get to the mythical city of Atlantis. And then you have to explore a new concentric maze to find the chamber of the gods before the Nazis - not before having a secret encounter with Nur-Ab-Sal, the evil spirit posessing the body of your new girlfriend.

    This game became my new Indy standard, and this is why I wanted the Indy movie so much to have it. If you watched the latest Indy movie, play the game and you'll be more than cured.

    Ah, look, there's a youtube screenshot collection with Indy's theme playing on the background!

  25. Re:Maybe I am strange... by xbytor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It also has a black JFK. What's not to like about this movie?