Wikipedia Edits Forecast Vice Presidential Picks
JimLane writes "The Washington Post reports on the findings of Cyveillance, a company that 'normally trawls the Internet for data on behalf of clients seeking open source information in advance of a corporate acquisition, an important executive hire, or brand awareness.' Cyveillance decided 'on a lark' to test its methods by monitoring the Wikipedia biographies of Vice-Presidential prospects. The conclusion? If you'd been watching Wikipedia you might have gotten an advance tipoff of Friday's announcement that McCain was selecting Sarah Palin. 'At approximately 5 p.m. ET (Thursday), the company's analysts noticed a spike in the editing traffic to Palin's Wiki page, and that some of the same Wiki users appeared to be making changes to McCain's page.'" The article goes on to say that watching Wikipedia pages for the Democratic VP hopefuls would have tipped Obama's choice of Biden, as well. NPR also has coverage (audio).
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Politicians (or their group) editing wiki pages in order to appear better to the public? (the same people who have the power to put them in office) Gasp. Shocked I am. I honestly am starting to expect this kind of thing. PS: I do think that it's rather interesting, looking for spikes in Wiki traffic to predict assorted events, perhaps we should start monitoring the "US invades the entire middle east" page
It's pretty cool that Wikipedia has become a de-facto official source of leaks for such information. Fox News was reporting that Palin had moved to the top of the list but had no confirmation of her selection about an hour before officials confirmed it, and at that time they reported that Wikipedia listed her as the pick. Someone within the campaign evidently leaked it to Wikipedia before leaking it to offline media.
Part of the hardcore faithful who believed in Apple long before it was cool again to do so
So basically, TFS says that wikipedia edits are made to a relevant article prior to an event, and therefore, these wikipedia articles were caused by the event.
Come on! Some skepticism please. You need a lot bigger sample size than this to make any sort of statement in either direction.
Oh, and yeah, cue jokes about wikipedia's supposed lack of skepticism.
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Hindsight is 20/20. Now try using this to _predict_ something correctly.
I'm seeing a very steep downward trend.
While Palin was among the least well-known of the potential GOP vice presidential picks - and therefore perhaps the candidate whose Wikipedia page was most in need of updating - her entry saw far more activity than that of Minn. Gov.
I wouldn't mind giving her entry some activity!
It reminds me of one they figured out years ago that when there's a major military move about to happen there's a spike in Dominoes orders at the White House from everyone working late.
Palin is still a ReThuglican Jew Puppet cunt!
Another 4 years of that Jew Puppet Bu$Hitler Chimpy McHaliburtin
I am sure her down syndrome kid will make a good ReThuglican. It is already smaller than Chimpy the Jew Boy.
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How many people do you think googled Sarah Palin after she was announced as McCains running mate? And how many of those people looked for a Wikipedia entry?
Thats why it was edited. Cause no one knew who she was.
156.33.15.0 - 156.33-15.255 146.63.0.0 - 146.63.255.255 if you want to check. Wikiscanner is a year out of date, so don't bother with it, though.
It's somewhat interesting that there was a spike in editing for Sarah Palin's wiki, but that information is hardly predictive of McCain's decision. Regardless of what everyone thought about the kind of VP she would make, the pick itself was a genuine surprise just about everyone including Palin herself. Personally, I had my bets on Lieberman and I still think he would have been made McCain the most competitive against Obama and Biden given the Republican base consists mostly of men.
McCain: " I'll let you be the vice president if you fuck me. Hold on while I get my Viagra."
Palin: " Okay, but don't go too deep. George W. Bush gave me the same promise last time and the kid came out retarded. The bastard didn't even let me be an intern, much less vice president.
McCain: " Hold still while I hand-feed it into your butt while mah lil' blue pill kicks in."
Palin: " UNH!"
Invariably someone will slip up and do something to give the game away and such traffic analysis will give the game away. All that is required is that someone look.
This is especially true for government conspiracy. For the most part, too many people have to be involved, and too many people are looking.
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campaign organizations, as a whole, are still idiots.
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I can't understand this obsession with politics. It doesn't make any difference (I's white, so I don't use the double negative before the word difference) to most people who is their 'leader' in Washington DC. I wish that they would all simply disappear. Or at least, just shut up. There are so many things that are more important and more interesting than DC politics. Political reporting of the same non-story over-and-over day-after-day is a cheap but acceptable way to avoid doing any real reporting on real stories.
Fox is the worst, of course, but they are easy to avoid. NPR radio can be really hard to take sometimes with their endless number of over-educated middle-aged white women with grating metallic voices (shit, I almost said Jewish, but I didn't, caught myself just in time. My problem is with over-educated, over-bearing, insufferable middle-aged middle-class women of all ethnicities on the radio. And yes, that includes you, Ms. Elaine Butterworth-Berkowitz-Hernandez of WGBH Bahstahn, even if you were so hot in high school in Amherst back in the 1970s And the women come and go, talking of Michelanglo...)
NPR spent MILLIONs of hours in the 1990s endlessly covering the Israeli-Palestine thing. They were under the illusion that that (note the conjuction vs. indirect pronoun transposition, grammar Nazis) was somehow important. And they completely missed the biggest story of the decade, the rise of Asia and especially Shanghai from a dumpy seaport to one of the most important cities in the world.
So what are they missing now? What's the opportunity cost of all this insufferable coverage of minor insects like Joe Biden and this Alaskan twit? What's the big story of the decade that we're not hearing about?
If you don't want to put up with listening to audio:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94118849
It's not as complete as the WP story though.
I'm going to start watching the page on Hurricane Gustav to see what buildings will get destroyed.
I wonder how well that would with the pages for foreign nations.
After reading Palin's page, it is very heavily biased against her.... Taking a lot of time/space to highlight various less than rosy portions of her Governorship. It is pretty sad, IMO, that wikipedia can't be more balanced. But obviously that is asking too much.
I get lots of hits from cyveillance addresses to my web servers, and the hits from the cyveilance robot are masquerading as IE users, and they don't even bother to try and retrieve robots.txt...
If you contact them about it they will offer to remove your address range from the spider, but this is also a lie, after contacting them and supplying address ranges for them to stop spidering they simply started spidering from a different source address, this time the whois record for the ipblock shows nothing unless you directly query cogent's whois server which again reveals the ranges are registered to cyveillance. This looks like a very poor attempt to hide their actions. Their spider also has a very recognizable pattern, so it would be easy to pick up anyway.
When i attempted to contact them again, they simply ignored all of my mails.
Incidentally, after being explicitly told their company has no permission to access my web servers, their continued attempts amount to unauthorized access.
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I, for one, think that it was the precise temperature in Alaska, or that McCain has a crush on her, as he does on Paris Hilton. My after the fact explanations are just as good as these. Correlation and Causation are now officially equal, I guess.
This may be an example of a reverse troll. By taking an extreme opposite position, it makes your position look more reasonable.
Republicans did this about 10 years ago, by pretending to be really annoying Democrats, calling people at inopportune hours, etc.
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They say prediction is difficult, especially about the future. Yahoo has a "political dashboard" (flash app) that tries various things to predict the outcome of the presidential race. One technique they use is prediction markets, which are sort of similar to this thing about the wikipedia edits: instead of asking people their opinions, you watch their actions. In the yahoo dashboard app, you can click to switch between a map based on opinion polls and one based on prediction markets. One interesting thing is that the polls show Ohio leaning to McCain, but the prediction markets show it going to Obama. One thing that's really tough about predicting this election is that historically, racist white people have often lied to pollsters about their race-related opinions. Even though Obama is ahead in the polls, I'm kind of expecting that McCain will win, simply because the polls are likely to have this systematic error in them. OTOH, some people say that this racism-hiding effect in polls is no longer as strong as it used to be. The February Scientific American had an article that treated prediction markets with skepticism. Some of the evidence that people have been quoting in favor of prediction markets is apparently bogus, and nobody has the faintest clue how they really work.
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I just won 500$ betting on my team by checking Wikipedia on the final results at halftime.
Looks like McCain just wrapped up the election this year. I mean, he has all of Alaska's electors in the bag!
That would be the global population reduction plan. It will be made to look like an accident and be "natural". Some bioweapon release of some kind is my best guess, but they will claim it was a natural mutation.
For some reason this kind of politically-motivated editing reminds me of the words "he who controls the past, controls the future".
"In prison you just have to shut your eyes and take it. Here you have to shut your eyes and give it."
Bloggers suggested Palin months ago. But that won't show up on Wikipedia.
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Without having seen this slashdot article I was researching Palin and spied he wikipedia entry. There were over 500+ edits in the last two days. I thought something was going on....to bad I've never heard of her or I might have thought of it Thursday...haha
I also saw a spike at that same time on councilman Les Winan's wikipedia's entry, but--like Sen. McCain--I figured that either Palin, Gilliam or the dead one would have much more cachet.
"Open source" is not a synonym for "public records!"
WikiCourthouse, the public filings that anybody can edit!
When I looked at the page yesterday, there were about six in-line photographs from Palin's 2007 visit to Kuwait. At that time, the article body did not mention the trip at all, so the inclusion of six photographs from the trip smacked of bias. The message that the operative who edited the page wanted to send was clear: "Palin has foreign policy experience because she visited Kuwait one time last year."
What silly games we play.
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There was also a spike on InTrade (intrade.com) around that time...
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I dunno. I don't think someone as chatty as Biden can seem cold and hard. Those two traits go along with aloofness, which he doesn't seem to have.
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Racist black people can lie to pollsters
about race-related opinions.
How can one monitor wikipedia traffic in real time?
i tried:
http://stats.grok.se/
but it seems 2 months behind atleast.