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Seinfeld-Windows TV Ad Anything But 'Delicious'

CWmike writes "Microsoft's $300-million ad campaign for Windows starring comedian Jerry Seinfeld launched Thursday with a long TV commercial almost entirely devoid of any talk of Windows, Microsoft or anything, really. With co-star Bill Gates, the scene is set in a shopping mall. Seinfeld, who did most of the talking, helps Gates buy a pair of shoes called the Conquistador. The commercial ends with Seinfeld asking Gates if Microsoft will "come out with something that makes our computers moist and chewy like cake so we can just eat them while we're working." Gates wiggles his rear to answer in the affirmative. The commercial ends (see video inside the story) with the Windows logo and the phrase 'Delicious.' Preston Gralla writes, 'I just saw Microsoft's much ballyhooed Jerry Seinfeld ad, and can say without equivocation it's one of the worst, most pointless ads in history. If this is Microsoft's response to the 'I'm a Mac' ads, it should fold up its tent and tell the world to switch to Apple."

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  1. I thought... by KeatonMill · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... that it was kind of hilarious in a post-modern "we're Microsoft, what the fuck are we gonna do?" sort of way.

    1. Re:I thought... by MMC+Monster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The add made little sense. It didn't mention computers at all until the last 10 seconds.

      It was kinda funny, but not even typical Seinfeld humor.

      I think Microsoft should get a refund from the ad agency.

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    2. Re:I thought... by OldManAndTheC++ · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I saw it as, "We took the money we got from every computer you ever bought, and used it to make this crappy commercial!"

      Bill Gates can wiggle his flabby ass all he wants -- I will never forgive them for Internet Explorer.

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    3. Re:I thought... by SatanicPuppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I thought it was quite clever actually.

      You have to understand what they're going for...When was the last time you saw a Mac commercial that was really about something technical? They just don't do that, they sell this fun "image", this personified "I'm your buddy" thing which has little or nothing to do with your computer.

      That's what MS is trying to counter. They're trying to humanize their image, build up some emotional investment in their brand.

      I saw it cold actually, on TV, but I'd heard about it and I was geared up to scream "BULLSHIT!!!!" when the stupid claims started, which kinda threw me when they never did, I must admit.

      Despite that knee jerk, and despite all my MS related baggage, I was semi-amused at various points. It was clever. Surreal, yes, but amusing.

      And they're getting mad play, jesus, everyone looking at the ad online. I think it may play somewhat for them in the long run, but it's too early to tell.

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    4. Re:I thought... by uniquename72 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wish I had mod points today.

      While this ad didn't make me want to go out and buy a Windows computer, neither did it make me actively want to avoid having anything to do with the company responsible for it, as the "I'm a Mac" ads did. From that point of view, I'd call this a success.

    5. Re:I thought... by jgarra23 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While this ad didn't make me want to go out and buy a Windows computer, neither did it make me actively want to avoid having anything to do with the company responsible for it, as the "I'm a Mac" ads did. From that point of view, I'd call this a success.

      I gotta agree. THe skinny "hip" kid actor in the mac commercials is about as faux-cool as you can get and still manage to look like you're trying way too hard + john hodgeman, well what has he done than write a strange book? Mr. Hodgeman is still much cooler than that kid, any day of the week- at least he's on the daily show from time to time.

    6. Re:I thought... by FredFredrickson · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What the hell kind of bar does that? If it's not football, nobody's watching. But applauding, in a bar, at something that's not a touchdown? That would get you some wierd looks at bars around here...

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    7. Re:I thought... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Waa waa. You guys would criticize their ad no matter how they did it. Slashdotters are so predictable you guys bore me to death. Every day it's the same old tired thing, over and over and over. I used to be able to read through all the comments here under a given topic, but nowadays I find myself bailing after the first dozen or so. What's left of the general community here is that dull and uninteresting. Forget the CAPTCHA's before posting, implement questions from IQ tests, and timed, to filter out the dullard majority here and the uselessly repetitive. Then maybe the intelligent would return and the dot would go back to being a worthwhile read (instead of just a page view numbers whore).

    8. Re:I thought... by Vohar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm glad someone else made the point about Mac commercials. I remember one several years ago that just featured a blonde girl saying something along the lines of, "Yeah with Windows it was all...bleh. But then I got a Mac and it was sooo much better!" I was actually insulted by that one. Was -that- supposed to sway me?

    9. Re:I thought... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Come on, that's a long way to go to bash Apple. Every ad mentions some feature and compares it between the two platforms. You might disagree with the features they choose, or the accuracy of their assessment of them, but every commercial talks about the product, very directly.

      The old dancing silhouette commercials for iPods were a little less specific, but they were still showing the product, and showing people having fun with it.

      This commercial doesn't talk about or show any Microsoft product at all, except a vague mention at the very end vaguely comparing a computer (MS doesn't make computers) to cake.

    10. Re:I thought... by Ralish · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I think you are both misunderstanding the content of the ad and what it aims to achieve.

      The fact that it barely mentions Microsoft or Windows directly at all, save for a very brief logo at the end, is definitely not unintentional. It's plainly obvious that the ad in no way is aiming to make you buy Vista by virtue of technical persuasion, nor does it bash Apple directly. I think the aim of the ad is primarily to create an association: Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Gates. It's aiming to make you put them together mentally and recognise them as somewhat related. Really, that's what the ad is ultimately doing, creating a friendship between them. Jerry meets Bill, helps him buy shoes, they walk away eating, ad ends.

      That being said, there are some subtle references I think to both Apple and Windows in the ad, but they will likely only be picked up by geeks. Once again, intentional. There's no way that your average non-techy is going to analyze this ad to the extent required to really pick up on these. Some examples:
      "Quality shoes at discount prices, why pay more?" --- Stab at Apple's expensive hardware/software costs?
      The Shoe Circus card with Bill Gates mugshot --- Definitely aimed at geeks, probably an intentional nod to them, I loved it personally.

      But saying Microsoft should get a refund is just jumping the gun in a huge way. This isn't an isolated ad, it's part of a whole advertising campaign. This is Part 1 of god knows how many ads. I doubt they all follow in this surreal sort of vein, and become far more direct. But more so, as many posters have noted, everyone is talking about it. It's practically going viral. That's every ad agency's dream. And even if the response from many/most/all is "WTF???" right now, they're baited for the next advertisement. Once again, much like a viral campaign. I really think Microsoft and its agency has achieved what they are aiming for in this first segment, and maybe even exceeded them. I'm definitely reserving judgement until more ads are out and I can better guage the direction they are taking, and the response.

    11. Re:I thought... by nEoN+nOoDlE · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Sorry, but the Mac ads do say stuff. Every single one of the ads mentions a feature that differentiates between the 2 products, and it does so by humanizing the company, being clever, and NOT being technical all at the same time. It's a brilliant marketing campaign.

      When a marketing campaign has to have you "understand what they're going for," then it's a failure. It doesn't talk about anything related to the company, and when it does it's for 10 seconds and completely non-specific. There is no difference between this ad This ad was bound to fail among the linux community no matter what it was, but I didn't think it was gonna be as bad as it was.

      Microsoft has gotten a lot of shit the past few years over Vista. My girlfriend who is as far from a techie as you can get told me she doesn't want Vista because she heard it was bad. They addressed the problem of Vista getting bad press by insulting their target audience with the Mojave campaign, and now they've failed with an ad that doesn't say anything or get anyone excited about anything. This wasn't humanizing the company, it's the equivalent of an old nerdy guy trying to ingratiate himself to a younger crowd by calling them "dude" and thinking he's being cool.

      Over 20 years ago, Apple targeted IBM with their Big Brother ad. Now, 2 decades later, Apple is taking on the Big Brother vibe with their constricting Developer EULAs and vendor lock-outs. If you ask anybody on the street, though, Apple is still the new cool kid in town because they know how to advertise and make a brand image - or at least hire the people who do.

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    12. Re:I thought... by Wo1ke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It says things, yes, but when was the last time you saw a truly honest statement in a mac advert?
      Maybe before Jobs moved in again? The 'tech' facts that they brag about are debetable, to say the least. The whole point of the mac ads is that they aren't the geeky programmer dudes, but rather the 'cool' programmers who are amazing at everything.
      This ad is awesome as a response, as, in contrast to Mac's superficial "we're better than you" image, it gives a "we're just like you" image. Plus, it's entertaining in a wtf kind of way.
      Anyways, this is probably the set-up commercial for a series; an introduction to the cast and theme.

  2. I only laughed at one part... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I did a half snicker at Jerry's comments about clothing and showering. And that laugh was a stretch.

    I guess when you have the comedian from the "show about nothing", you'll get a "commercial about nothing".

  3. Congratulations by garett_spencley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Slashdot ... you win first prize. You just fell for, and greatly aided, Microsoft's viral marketing campaign.

    1. Re:Congratulations by jaymz666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly! Everybody is talking about it! Even non-techies.

  4. It did exactly what it was supposed to do. by oddman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's got everyone even remotely connected to technology talking about Microsoft.

    1. Re:It did exactly what it was supposed to do. by rk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Unfortunately, it has just about everyone connected to technology talking about Microsoft in close proximity to the letters "WTF".

  5. Re:Its Marketing ... no information required by garett_spencley · · Score: 1, Insightful

    No offense but you are completely wrong in every possible way.

    Seinfeld was a HORRIBLE show! :(

  6. It already succeeded by Dan+East · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The ad was a complete success. Can you believe that, after reading about it on Google News, I actually sought out and watched the commercial? Can you believe that right this very moment you are reading some unimportant commentary by someone whose opinion doesn't matter whatsoever about a TV commercial?

    Score one for Microsoft.

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    1. Re:It already succeeded by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is only if you accept the idea that all publicity is good publicity, which seems to be a popular idea these days, but always seemed kinda dubious to me.

      I saw the ad, and I'm not going to buy Windows. Anyone to whom I link to the ad, I will enclose said link in language making fun of Microsoft, so likely they will also not buy Windows. In fact, this ad is so bad that most who see it will actually want to buy something else, which in this case would be a Mac, or at least anything but the product which it purports to advertise.

      Score one for Microsoft in making it easier for those who already don't like them to make fun of them, and for those who weren't sure to take a step back and think, "Wow, these guys are out of touch."

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  7. Re:What Are You Talking About? by Awptimus+Prime · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You only need look as far as what passes for entertainment on television in the USA to figure out that you should be considered special if you have an 8th grade education!

    Have you ever watched TV in other countries? If it's not reruns of old stuff from the US, It's knock-offs like [insert country here] Idol. Entertainment is bad on a global scale.

    The bulk of stuff you will find in basic programming is going to suck everywhere for a long time to come, because, well, it has to cater to the 50% of us who are under average.

  8. Actually... by Bullfish · · Score: 2, Insightful

    MS need not fold it's tent, they hold a market share that almost any company in any other industry would kill for... and while the ad may be crappy, so what? They really don't even need to advertise, people know who they are anyway and will likely keep buying MS for the forseable future. Like them or not, their brand recognition is huge.

  9. Re:Comment by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What's the difference between a Mac and PC besides the operating system?

    About twenty years or so of arbitrary nomenclature. "PC" = x86 with Windows. Stupid but hey what's new in English?

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  10. we're not laughing with you; we're laughing at you by soybean · · Score: 2, Insightful

    we're not laughing with you; we're laughing at you.

  11. What "delicious" means by TheModelEskimo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Delicious, butt-wagging, Seinfeld, cheap shoe stores being abhorrent, poking fun at Mexicans...what do all these things have in common?

    Look at your common PHB. Likes "delicious food" as opposed to what the Mac guy eats, probably raw food or wheat grass or something. Thinks butt-wagging and slapstick are funny. Probably laughs at Seinfeld re-runs. Is glad he doesn't shop at the cheap shoe store for athletic shoes, but probably gets his dress shoes there, because who can tell. Has Mexican neighbors, is uncomfortable knowing he's in the same class they are.

    This ad is brilliantly tarteted as a sort of subconscious reminder that PHB doesn't have to be a Mac guy, darnit, and he's good enough. Microsoft is here to shove more Applebees cake down his throat.

  12. Re:Its Marketing ... no information required by jmpeax · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seinfeld was a HORRIBLE show!

    Sorry but I have to disagree. Seinfeld was brilliant: it was like a modern theatre of the absurd. It didn't play to people's desire for a warm fuzzy feeling, it acted on the cold reality of what its creators portray as futile, cyclical, absurd modern life. And it does it in a way that makes people laugh.

    Its comedy is so incredibly clever. I still find it hard to not have my mind blown when I watch it.

  13. Re:Its Marketing ... no information required by kat_skan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Clearly the OP does not really understand what advertising is usually about. Most mass market advertising does not try to provide information, it is providing associations. It presents something enjoyable (here it is assumed that Seinfeld+Gates==Enjoyable) and then presents the branding that they want to be associated with that enjoyable feeling. The crazy part is that this works, and in a weird way can be suggested as actually improving the product. Since the next time the subject of the advertising uses/sees the product, they will subconsiously access that association with enjoyment ... therefore the product is more enjoyable as a result of the advertising.

    I am not saying that this is a good thing, but it is how things work in the real world.

    Having seen the ad, and thinking of others that have been defended in this way, I've come to suspect that this in fact doesn't work at all, and that what you're repeating actually originated as marketing for marketing. "Don't worry. It's supposed to be horrible!"

    I mean, it ended with Bill Gates coyly wiggling his ass for chrissake!

  14. Re:What Are You Talking About? by WPIDalamar · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wasn't American Idol a knockoff of a British show?

  15. Re:"Gates wiggles his rear." by pilgrim23 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Did anyone notice: the photo on his club discount shoe card or whatever...is his mug shot from when he was arrested in Albuqurque?

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  16. The message? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    OK, so Bill Gates is buying shoes but instead of getting advice from a trained professional he follows what he is told by some joker who just happens to be walking down the street. What does this say?

  17. Re:What Are You Talking About? by BobMcD · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The bulk of stuff you will find in basic programming is going to suck everywhere for a long time to come, because, well, it has to cater to the 50% of us who are under average.

    Um, no. This is just basic economics, really. Why put forth any more than a minimum level of effort when you have plenty of demand for your most craptastic halfassery?

    Intellect not-withstanding, so long as it sells ads, TV isn't going to be getting any better any time soon.

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  19. Re:What Are You Talking About? by Aranykai · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I just saw it for myself today. I was convinced it was an add for the shoe store until the very end when the windows logo flashed...

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  20. Re:What Are You Talking About? by Goldberg's+Pants · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That may be one of the oddest and most horrifying things I've ever seen. Gates shaking his ass.

    YOU ARE NOT BEYONCE!

  21. Re:What Are You Talking About? by mabhatter654 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    so are shoes analogy to Windows... it doesn't quite fit but if you bend it up long enough you can squeeze your feet into it?

  22. Re:Its Marketing ... no information required by moderatorrater · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is like your company showing you a picture of a nice lunch every Friday, then showing you a picture of their logo, and expecting that, since you like lunch, you will associate the positive feelings you get from seeing a picture of lunch with positive feelings towards your employer

    Not quite, since they're genuinely trying to entertain you. If they failed, then they also failed to create the association.

    A better analogy for marketing would be, every Friday your boss comes into your office, hits you over the head with a frying pan, jerks off into your eyes, and steals your wallet.

    Not quite, because I have what scienticians call a "brain", and I use this to make my own decisions about what products to buy. If marketing is so effective against people that it's equivalent to stealing their wallet, whose fault is that?

  23. Re:I'm a Mac guy, and I thought it was funny by pbhj · · Score: 2, Insightful

    if it wasn't for the Windows logo at the end I wouldn't have known what product it was "selling"

    It's not selling a product, yet. It's a hook you're supposed to think "moist, w-t-flip??". That then gives them space in your brain, you're slightly confused as you expect MS to tout their technology, spout off with some of the usual FUD, but no - they haven't even tried to sell you anything ... yet. Now you anticipate round 2, your curious ... curiosity is a killer, it's also a very good marketing tool: if you're in a room with 2 doors and one says "danger to life, do not enter" you couldn't care less what's behind the other one you just want to open the dangerous one!

    IMO it's a good advert, we just have to see if the marketeers can make good of that advantage.

  24. Re:What Are You Talking About? by jhfry · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, there goes my ability to watch any reruns of Seinfeld ... starring a Microsoft shill & a racist

    Actually, if I could be paid to create a pointless and counter productive ad for MS I would do it to... and I hate MS. Perhaps Jerry actually hates MS too and he intentionally accepted Millions and intentionally created a bad ad.

    Maybe Jerry is like Oskar Schindler, profiting off the enemy while doing nothing to further their cause.

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  25. Re:What Are You Talking About? by bluephone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    starring a Microsoft shill & a racist.

    First, he wasn't an MS schill back then, in the later years he was an American Express schill. Second, so he's doing pitches for MS, so what? It's not like he's getting up there staring into the camera and saying, "Windows Vista is the greatest thing since penicillin." He's a comedian and he's being paid to do some ads. He's not a business ethicist or technologist, he probably knows as much on MS's business practices or technical stances as your average person, which is next to none.

    Third, RACIST? What the hell? Can you PLEASE explain that, because I REALLY don't get that one. Honestly, I haven't a clue where you got that and really want to know.

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  26. There's one thing they *didn't* do that stands out by merreborn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I, too, was throughly unimpressed by the ad, but there is one thing they didn't do: Play Apple's mud slinging game.

    I enjoy the "I'm a mac" ads -- they're just about the only commercials I'll intentionally watch -- but they're pretty aggressive. They blatantly, and actively attempt to belittle their competition. The latest two show "PC" resting on his laurels, and trying to deceive people into purchasing him -- both suggesting that "PC" doesn't have his users' best interests at heart.

    This commercial doesn't do that at all. Some have speculated that was the goal: making it clear that they feel that they don't have to insult their competition. Whether they're just trying to win points for being the nice guy, or they're trying to suggest that they don't have to stoop to Apple's level because they're just that superior, I don't know.

  27. Re:What Are You Talking About? by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Well, there goes my ability to watch any reruns of Seinfeld ... starring a Microsoft shill & a racist.

    You, sir, are a moron. I strongly suggest you go look up the word "shill" - it doesn't mean what you think it means. As for a "racist" - who cares. The guy made some idiotic comments in a night club. Wait, I know, it's a good opportunity for you to expound on how much of an anti-racist you are and at the same time mention racism and Microsoft in the same sentence. Double dweeb win!

  28. Re:What Are You Talking About? by wellingj · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Irony can be informative if you recognize that it is irony...

  29. Re:What Are You Talking About? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You should be right, this is only a teaser.

    And IT'S WORKING, since everybody is talking about it.

    Open your eyes people !

  30. Re:Its Marketing ... no information required by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Nice, but too subtle for the mods in all likelihood.

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    Oh burn. You sure got me there.

    If you can't find 45 minutes of free time, you don't have any sort of life worth living.

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  32. Re:What Are You Talking About? by blamanj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually I thought the whole thing was about stroking Gates and sucking up to him.

    "You're a 10, Bill"

    "The Conquistador."

    "Let me get down on my knees and serve you, Bill."

  33. What else has John Hodgman done? by Bemopolis · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He was Bruce Campbell's literary agent. All else is epilogue.

    Now go shred your cool card application — you have been pre-denied.

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  34. Re:I just installed Ubuntu on my new Vista laptop by Locutus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The ad was about the PC users being able to go out and you can get have your cake and eat it too. Granted, they think Windows gives you that but as you really know, GNU and Linux get you that in spades. It's all about choice and what YOU want.

    Sorry Bill, Jerry, that ad just didn't work IMO.

    LoB

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  35. It's a good ad, actually. by raehl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First, I think what a lot of people have missed here is something basic: The market. Microsoft is not selling their product to the same people that Apple is selling to. Microsoft has to please a lot more middle-aged corporate types, and a lot of common types. Even the place this ad premiered reflects that - NFL football game. Not the Oscars, MTV Music awards, American Idol - NFL football game. Domain of white guys.

    Second, the point of the ad is not to advertise the product. Microsoft and their ad agency have probably done quite a bit of research and realized that the brand perception of Microsoft is mostly large, faceless, corporate machine. Insert 'evil' in there, if you'd like. The point of the ad is to put a human face on the company. "Oh look, Microsoft's founder has to buy shoes just like me!" Jerry's contribution is to be annoyingly quirky, which allows Bill to be tolerant and 'humor' Jerry. The whole ad is Bill playing along even though you suspect he thinks Jerry is quite odd (also making Bill look not-so-odd by comparison.)

    The ad is effective for what Microsoft is trying to accomplish with it. Hell, even proving Bill isn't ACTUALLY equipped with a Borg eye is worth a few million.

    1. Re:It's a good ad, actually. by k1e0x · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Bill looks incredibly odd.. because he is. Socially inept I think its called.

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    2. Re:It's a good ad, actually. by Scroatzilla · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know... I really don't care about the human face of the founder of any companies I do business with, especially huge corporate entities. I can *sort of* connect with a guy who hand crafts his beer, or grows the potatoes for his potato chips, but I'm not sure that this kind of connection is relevant when you see the world's richest man who founded a company that, for all intents and purposes, does something that most people don't really even understand.

      I have a degree in communications (which includes advertising), and I simply don't see how this distinguishes the Microsoft brand in any way other than the fact that they can afford a commercial. A baffling and painfully awkward one at that.

      Okay, what I'm really trying to say is that I'd love to see Jeff Goldblum kick Jerry Seinfeld's ass all over silicon valley. Ummm.

    3. Re:It's a good ad, actually. by asylumx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      NFL fooball game. Domain of white guys.

      Yeah, cuz black people obviously HATE football...

    4. Re:It's a good ad, actually. by Deathlizard · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Just to add onto this...

      This Ad seems like it's starting some sort of theme here. Think about it. Why would one of the richest men in the world shop at a discount shoe store? And to top it off, Not even get correctly fitting shoes until Jerry Bails him out with the size 10's? I'm seeing a pattern of "Cheap isn't always good" and "Don't buy something smaller than what you need". Both of these things are definitely true with Vista. A cheap and small PC with low specs will run Vista, but it's better to go with a higher end PC that fits your needs.

      As for the Ad being a failure, Say what you will, but I can't really say it's a failure because we're talking about it right now on Slashdot. Sure it's in a negative light here, but you know you want to see the next one just for the simple reason of figuring out where Microsoft is trying to go with this campaign. It's been all over the net too, so it's getting the exposure. Now the question remains if the campaign as a whole can deliver.

    5. Re:It's a good ad, actually. by SoupIsGoodFood_42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Bill Gates doesn't even work at MS anymore, IIRC, so that just makes it all the more pointless. And how is this supposed to show those middle-aged corporate types that MS is going to fix Vista? They don't want something that is "delicious" -- if they wanted that, they'd buy an Apple. They want to know that the next version of Windows won't be another Vista, or that Vista is going to get fixed. The ad does nothing to reassure anyone of that.

    6. Re:It's a good ad, actually. by house_of_cards · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As for the Ad being a failure, Say what you will, but I can't really say it's a failure because we're talking about it right now on Slashdot. Sure it's in a negative light here, but you know you want to see the next one just for the simple reason of figuring out where Microsoft is trying to go with this campaign. It's been all over the net too, so it's getting the exposure. Now the question remains if the campaign as a whole can deliver.

      Wrong - the ad is newsworthy and being discussed so much because of:

      - the well-publicized $300 million price tag associated with the campaign

      - the also well-publicized dismal reputation Vista has resulting in such an expensive campaign

      - the failed effort Microsoft has made getting people to switch to Vista resulting in the campaign

      - because Microsoft themselves and the OEMs had to offer a downgrade path to placate home and business users who actually wanted, no - DEMANDED to downgrade to XP from Vista due to the endless compatibility problems and performance issues

      - because another recent Microsoft ad campaign ("Mojave") even went so far as to con users into using the product and then doing a "Pepsi taste test" style switcheroo, as if to say "Yeah, we know Vista's reputation is awful, but once you eliminate the negative stigma associated with the Vista name and trick people into using it, it's not so bad", even though the people in the Mojave commercials aren't actually forced to use Vista on a daily basis and do something as simple as install a new device or program, or drag a file to their desktop without being UAC-prompted to death.

      No, the whole reason this commercial is newsworthy is not due to the content of the commercial itself, but due to the steep price tag, the hiring the star of the most successful sit-com of the past 20 years as well as the "Eternal Sunshine" director and the appearance of Gates himself, all in an attempt to shore up the sagging Vista brand which is not nearly as successful as the company hoped it would be.

    7. Re:It's a good ad, actually. by lightversusdark · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Absolutely disgusting misuse of moderation.

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  36. Re:Its Marketing ... no information required by timster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Just a question -- do you seriously think that marketing is not effective against you? If so, that's sort of like trying to block a punch by refusing to believe in it.

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  37. Re:What Are You Talking About? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's the goatse for the new generation. That's what this ad is about.

  38. Re:What Are You Talking About? by DDLKermit007 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think that's a pre-requisite to learning this language. I think I remember checking a box regarding that in the TOS.