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Antec Releases "Skeleton" PC Case

ThinSkin writes "It is appropriate to say that Antec was 'thinking outside the box' when the idea of the 'Skeleton' PC Case sprung to mind. The Antec Skeleton is an open-air PC case with a pair of shelves for the motherboard and other components — held up by arching arms. There are no side panels. This is ideal for the computer user who is constantly fidgeting with his PC parts, or someone who wants to show off his fancy components. Just have a compressed air can nearby. There is also a slideshow of Antec Skeleton images available."

124 comments

  1. Good for a lab. by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But man i would fear every open can of soda, and heaven forbid you have kids or pets.

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    1. Re:Good for a lab. by internerdj · · Score: 4, Funny

      What do you mean? My 11 month old would love it.

    2. Re:Good for a lab. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geeks can have kids?

    3. Re:Good for a lab. by Lulfas · · Score: 1

      They recreate asexually, not breaking the geek code.

    4. Re:Good for a lab. by martinw89 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I believe they try to recreate asexually, but realize their attempts are futile. Then they forget and try again the next day.

    5. Re:Good for a lab. by wellingj · · Score: 1

      OMG! So that's what it is?!

    6. Re:Good for a lab. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because we all have kids and pets in the lab.

      Oh, wait, you were contracting yourself. Your bad.

    7. Re:Good for a lab. by aliquis · · Score: 5, Funny

      Sooner or later you'll notice that your FSB has had an upgrade.

      After that you'll just have to find a female connector if you got the male one, or a male one if you got the female one, and the rest is basic IO.

      There seem to be some sort of protocol using a closed handshaking routine to initiate the data transfer though and I haven't got that one figured out. There have been quite a few attempts to reverse engineer and document the procedure for the whole handshaking process, part of the progress can be found in TFM by Neil Strauss, but there are no complete documentation yet.

      Common practise for finalising the handshake routine includes brute-forcing. But that method requires a wide array of targets since the target host most often will notice the probe and close all ports well before the initializing handshake routine and following data transfer is over. Alternative practise includes paying for a one-time key usable against a single target. This method got its flaws though since the target are usually well protected against intruding code which won't execute whereby not finalizing the final stages of the procedure. You will still get all the benefits of making the connection and following thru the whole data transfer process, but the application will never fork into a new process.

      But believe it or not, some people even see benefits of the lack of a child process. For instance you don't have to fight over resources, share memory or try to fight for priority.

    8. Re:Good for a lab. by camperslo · · Score: 1

      It looks like it might be a good hair-dryer for hamsters, but it would radiate so much radio-frequency noise it could cause significant problems being used for computing.
      It certainly would be illegal to offer systems for sale using this case in the U.S.

      Most people wouldn't drive a car with the muffler and catalytic converter removed.
      It's unfortunate that some may get poorly shielded cases like this and be just as much of a nuisance without even realizing it.

    9. Re:Good for a lab. by retchdog · · Score: 3, Funny

      Thanks for pointing that out. If he kept on contracting himself, he'd form a singularity.

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    10. Re:Good for a lab. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "... or try to get the highest priority."

      Would had been better, no dual fights then. Oh well. / aliquis

    11. Re:Good for a lab. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Posted anon because modding you down for being an idiot would not be fair.

      Electromagnetic radiation emitted by computers is not inconsequential, but not of practical concern, and certainly not to the degree where any caseless computer would be illegal to sell (presumably for violation of FCC regulations). Radiation is determined by resistance multiplied by the square of the current. The current consumed by the computer in total is significant; the amount of current in any given wire inside the computer tends to be quite small. Surprisingly, computers are not designed to be antennas and serve rather poorly for that purpose.

      Not only that, but why would confining the radiation to the inside of the case help anything? If anything, the open case has less of a problem with EMI.

    12. Re:Good for a lab. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love this design. I did it with a yellow milk crate and some duct tape. One night I was up drinking when I spilt my beer all over the motherboard. None of my technical friends though can explain why it changed the IRQ of my graphics card. :S

    13. Re:Good for a lab. by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      It wouldn't be fair because he is right.
      The rf from a PC isn't a health issue it is an interference issue.
      Heck If I run with the side of my case off I get waves on my monitor and static on my speakers.
      Don't try to listen to an AM radio...
      Put an RF source inside a conductive grounded box and the problem is solved so yes confining the RF to the inside of the case DOES solve the problem.

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    14. Re:Good for a lab. by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Insightful

      After that you'll just have to find a female connector if you got the male one, or a male one if you got the female one, and the rest is basic IO.

      If you've got a female connector, you have no problem finding a male dongle for it. Ever.

    15. Re:Good for a lab. by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I think some versions of the female connector may have some problems, for instance the slightly wider version. Though solvable.

      Owners of the female connections better watch out and validate the handshake to make sure it's authentic and correct or they may end up with resource consuming hanged children processes running on a single core.

    16. Re:Good for a lab. by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      I really could use some contracting to be honest.

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    17. Re:Good for a lab. by retchdog · · Score: 1

      Buying, selling or dieting?

      I could use all three I think.

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    18. Re:Good for a lab. by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      I think some versions of the female connector may have some problems, for instance the slightly wider version. Though solvable.

      Pfft. Not hardly. As long as said version can transmit the "Yes" packet, it can interoperate.

    19. Re:Good for a lab. by reg45 · · Score: 1

      Isn't one of the functions of a (metal) case to provide R. F. shielding, or is that no longer a problem?

  2. But... by clang_jangle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What about shielding, dust, noise, safety from beverages, pets, flying insects? I predict the aesthetic charm will wear thin quickly for those who purchase this -- if anyone does.

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    1. Re:But... by mweather · · Score: 1

      At least the flying insects don't get sucked through a fan and splattered throughout the case.

    2. Re:But... by Nightspirit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Like the article says, this is for people who probably already have their case open anyways.

    3. Re:But... by ducomputergeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Already ordered one for our development lap where we're testing under lots of hardware configurations. We've been using old PC server towers, the kind that stand like 4ft tall, so we can easily access all the components when we need to swap out this or that. But they do take up quite bit of space. As the article said, it's a niche product. So i guess next week we'll see.

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    4. Re:But... by plover · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I already have dust buildup in my closed case. It has an acrylic side panel, so it does not offer RF shielding. It has a top fan, so it doesn't offer much safety from a beverage set carelessly on top. As a matter of fact, no matter how much I wanted to I couldn't set a beverage on top of this Skeleton, so I would set it elsewhere -- this case is possibly safer as a result.

      Perhaps closed cases are overrated in terms of the amount of "actual" protection they provide.

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    5. Re:But... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      My first thought when I saw this was that it was an idiotic idea, but a couple seconds later realized that this would be ideal for many lab environments where you might need to change the hardware around frequently, and food/drinks aren't a big problem. As an embedded software engineer, I always have bare boards and components at my desk, though mine aren't the type that would fit in any kind of PC case, including this one, so I can see how this would be attractive.

      I'd never put one in my house, though. One of the cats would probably pee on it.

    6. Re:But... by Ostracus · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Already ordered one for our development lap where we're testing under lots of hardware configurations."

      And don't think your lap wouldn't appreciate the weight reduction. :)

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    7. Re:But... by Ironsides · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Here's a question for you. Do you even need to use a case to test the various configurations? Couldn't you just leave the motherboard on the desk with the cards sitting in it and everything laying out?

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    8. Re:But... by ZosX · · Score: 1

      That's what I was thinking. I've certainly had motherboards just sitting on a desk before without issues....

    9. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't something along the lines of this http://www.petrastechshop.com/hslatdetest1.html work a little better for what you are describing? I've been under the impression that the open style cases have been around for quite a while, they were just branded as "test benches" or something similar.

    10. Re:But... by couchslug · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Perhaps closed cases are overrated in terms of the amount of "actual" protection they provide."

      IME with customer machines, closed cases protect many interesting "dust bunny and (usually) dead insect" ecosystems. As for "pets", I've seen some machines with enough hair/dust/primordial "stuff" to build a small dog.

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    11. Re:But... by Wilden2003 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd never put one in my house, though. One of the cats would probably pee on it.

      Only the one time. And if they did survive, you could be sure they would learn the lesson.

      Had a Irish Setter once. And an electric fence. He wizzed; I winced. But I must say, I never saw him repeat the experience.

    12. Re:But... by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      I ran a database server for a year or so out of a cardboard box that a motherboard came in. Motherboard sat in the box, power supply and hard drives sat on the lid, which was, of course, open.

      Worked flawlessly in my basement like that. Although, we don't have cats....

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    13. Re:But... by wellingj · · Score: 1

      It will definitely make the chore of giving your computer the can 'o air easier. And probably make it easier to see if you need to or not.

    14. Re:But... by aliquis · · Score: 3, Funny

      But! Even my mom wants this case!

      Though my friends tell me how her case is always open.

    15. Re:But... by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Even an open case has a lid on, and has sides to put on when you're moving it, or watering the plants, or doing some DIY nearby, or in fact anything at all. This is a disaster waiting to happen.

      And having seen the picture, a normal PC with the sides off seems to offer easier access and a better view than this monstrosity.

    16. Re:But... by Nightspirit · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How many times have you nearly destroyed your computer, only to be saved by the case? Not once in 20 years for me. I have gone through about 10 keyboards though.

    17. Re:But... by diogenesx · · Score: 1

      There have been testing cases around for ages, cyberguys has some very nice ones, but I can't find the link. This was what I found on the first page of google results. Seems like a much better system for component testing.

    18. Re:But... by sumdumass · · Score: 1

      Your not really testing with them then. Any IO card that slides into an ISA/PCI/PCIE or whatever slot has a tab on the bottom that sticks past the main board. You have to elevate them to accound for this or risk pulling the card our and not making a good contact or damaging something in the process.

      If your just testing drives, then USB enclosures would do the job just fine.

      But when you do something like leave the sides open or prop a main board on something for testing, it isn't really practical if you use the area. I saw a guy doing this and the seemingly innocent act of attempting to figure out why his ink pen wouldn't work cause him to burn the brand new $600 main board up when the spring inside the ink pen shot out and landed on it.

    19. Re:But... by vrmlguy · · Score: 1

      "Perhaps closed cases are overrated in terms of the amount of "actual" protection they provide."

      IME with customer machines, closed cases protect many interesting "dust bunny and (usually) dead insect" ecosystems. As for "pets", I've seen some machines with enough hair/dust/primordial "stuff" to build a small dog.

      I used to work for a coal company. We had some ancient IBM PCs that interfaced to conveyor belts and such, and once a year I'd need to maintain the things. I quickly learned to unplug everything and carry the case outside before opening it up and dumping/blowing the quarter-inch of coal dust that had accumulated. I don't know why nothing ever shorted out; I always thought that pure carbon was a pretty good conductor, but the dust appeared to only be an aesthetic problem.

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    20. Re:But... by HardCase · · Score: 1

      I wondered as well - our lab has thirty or forty motherboards and no cases - it's a pain in the butt to try to maneuver scope probes in a case.

    21. Re:But... by Norwell+Bob · · Score: 1

      At least the flying insects don't get sucked through a fan and splattered throughout the case.

      In my 33 years on this planet, and over a decade in IT, I have never, ever seen this happen.

  3. Yes, but... by idiotnot · · Score: 1

    With the properly overclocked CPU, can you deep fry a turkey on it?

    1. Re:Yes, but... by therufus · · Score: 1

      Nevermind that, the question is does it blend?

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  4. How appropriate by Hatta · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Halloween is just around the corner!

    Seriously though, Antec makes some amazing cases. Thing is, it's so easy to get into my P180B, I don't think this skeleton case is going to be any better.

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    1. Re:How appropriate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Halloween is just around the corner!

      Just in time, then. My computer was really hoping to dress up as a catastrophe-in-the-making this year.

    2. Re:How appropriate by therufus · · Score: 0, Troll

      *insert witty Vista-bashing comment here*

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    3. Re:How appropriate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROFLHAO. A B5 reference in your sig?

  5. Noise Level? by Khan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My only concern would be the noise level from all of the components. I suppose it wouldn't matter if I had "quiet" devices. Overall pretty cool looking case.

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    1. Re:Noise Level? by mini_razor · · Score: 2, Informative

      My only concern would be the noise level from all of the components. I suppose it wouldn't matter if I had "quiet" devices. Overall pretty cool looking case.

      RTFA "Above, the huge 250mm fan is controlled by a three-speed switch, and is extremely quiet at the lowest setting.". Sounds OK to me as long as you don't need a hell of a lot of cooling doing. And yer i agree, amazing looking case.

    2. Re:Noise Level? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Prior art: Over heating PC with sides removed and a desk fan pointed at it.

      Actually this caused a fire in the IT office at the county I worked for. I was working in the GIS department but was also involved with the IT folks since they had limited UNIX experience (and ESRI software was UNIX based at the time). Well they were building a server (the tower type for a remote location with limited bandwidth) and the office was hot. They opened the sides and left a desk fan pointed at it over the weekend to help with cooling it. Well over a weekend, the system caught fire and the sprinklers put about 4 inches of water out before it was cleared and shutdown.

      Mij

    3. Re:Noise Level? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fan is not the only component. Think constant whine of HDDs, optical drives, PSU, ...

    4. Re:Noise Level? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hard drives aren't silent. Neither are GPU or CPU fans. Or power supply fans. In my system, the case fans (what this 250mm monster is equivelent to) are probably the quietest noise-producing component in it.

    5. Re:Noise Level? by wtfispcloadletter · · Score: 1

      Yes, but for those of us who have their PCs on 24/7 with the cases open and a hard drive or two just sitting on the desk, sans enclosure, connected to the PC wouldn't mind something like this at all. In fact I'd love to have something like this.

      When I get tired of the noise coming from the computer, I just shut the office door. When I'm using the computer, I just tune the noise out or turn the speakers up and don't even notice the PC.

    6. Re:Noise Level? by Grishnakh · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not a problem. For the CPU fan, get a Thermaltake Tsunami, which has a giant 120mm fan and is very quiet (this might not fit in this new Antec case, though). For the power supply, get a Seasonic power supply with 80+% efficiency and a 120mm temperature-controlled fan, also very quiet. For the GPU, get a GPU with only passive cooling. I have some Nvidia card (6600?) with heatsinks on both sides with a heatpipe connecting the two.

      On my system, the only problem with noise is the 4 hard drives, and the variable-speed fan blowing air on them to keep them cool. Pretty soon, I plan to ditch the 4 hard drives and get two large ones, mirror them, and then I'll be able to turn down my HD fan to a quieter level. If it weren't for the HDs and their fan, my system would be nearly silent, with all those slow and quiet 120mm fans.

    7. Re:Noise Level? by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      The case is going to have pretty poor airflow too (you don't have the usual wind-tunnel setup) so a silent, passively-cooled machine is the way to go. Alternatively you could use water cooling to relay heat to a large radiator setup, evading both issues.

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    8. Re:Noise Level? by Yvan256 · · Score: 3, Funny

      And if the computer is running Windows Vista, the whining from the user itself.

    9. Re:Noise Level? by Khan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      RTFP: I said components, not the CPU fan. As someone else stated HD's, power supplies, overclocked GPU's....THOSE are the real noisemakers unless you use major passive or water cooling. The BFF over the CPU is only part of the solution.

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    10. Re:Noise Level? by hurfy · · Score: 1

      I like it too but already have my 'show-off' cases for 5 years and expect another 5 out of them. This takes up more real estate than the more standard shape and i really would not have room for this :(

      A tad pricey for what you get. That is more than my clear ones were back when there were only 2 places on entire internet to get them!

    11. Re:Noise Level? by Skrapion · · Score: 1

      Yeah, water-cooled systems are a great suggestion for users who have to swap parts on a regular basis.

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    12. Re:Noise Level? by Skrapion · · Score: 1

      If you're interested in noise reduction, this isn't the case for you. That's a completely different niche.

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    13. Re:Noise Level? by therufus · · Score: 1

      It's sad that Antec no longer make the Phantom500 power supply. It had a passive cooling design with a fan in it that only operates if the temperature was over 60*c. I have one in my server at home and it's never come on. Even with the watercooling pump and fans on the radiator, it's virtually silent.

      Zalman also is worth mentioning. They make arguably the quietest and highest quality fans available on the market. My parents PC has a Zalman CNPS-9500 CPU fan, and you have to look for the lights on the front of the case to know the PC is on.

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    14. Re:Noise Level? by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      In retrospect, that is asking for trouble.

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    15. Re:Noise Level? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CPU and CPU fan are components you fucking idiot.

    16. Re:Noise Level? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or whether it meets EMC standards?

    17. Re:Noise Level? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly.

      I've got a Coolermaster Stacker 830 with no fans and all fan related hardware removed along with a silent power supply and a passively cooled GeForce 8600.

      It works like a champ and aside from the hard drive is inaudible.

  6. What TFA fails to report is... by Verdatum · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does the case come with a big scary sign that says, "DO NOT TOUCH!", or do I have to fashion my own?

    1. Re:What TFA fails to report is... by TeknoHog · · Score: 3, Funny

      ACHTUNG! ALLES LOOKENSPEEPERS!

      Das computermachine ist nicht fuer
      gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist
      easy schnappen der springenwerk,
      blowenfusen und poppencorken mit
      spitzensparken. Ist nicht fuer gewerken
      bei das dumpkopfen. Das rubbernecken
      sichtseeren keepen das cotten-pickenen
      hans in das pockets muss; relaxen und
      watchen das blinkenlichten.

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    2. Re:What TFA fails to report is... by Endo13 · · Score: 1

      Yes, it really is funnier in German than English.

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  7. Dust? by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

    This would be better if it had some sort of fabric cover over the top, maybe even a splashproof one. The design looks a bit impractical unless you've got lots of desk space though.

    1. Re:Dust? by Endo13 · · Score: 1

      The design looks a bit impractical unless you've got lots of desk space though.

      That's more or less what I was thinking too. It looks kind of cool, but where the hell would I put it? It doesn't fit anywhere a normal tower does. Think I'll just stick with my massive Chenming tower, which actually for me takes up 'less space' despite being twice the size.

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  8. Unpractical, really by Enleth · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Even if we assume that there are no problems with air circulation and proper cooling (it's Antec, after all), this things takes up much more desk space than a normal tower case, cannot be used like a destop type case (however awkward they are) because of its shape and cannot really be placed under the desk (it negates the whole puprpose of such a design and most computer desks have no place suitable for something like that anyway, except maybe the printer shelf). So it's half a desk for a weird novelty. Not worth the hassle, IMO. Even for someone who likes fiddling with the parts a big tower without the left side panel and placed on the right hand side of the desk would be probably a lot more practical.

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    1. Re:Unpractical, really by Trespass · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Hang it on the wall.

    2. Re:Unpractical, really by Skrapion · · Score: 1

      But often when swapping parts you need to turn the case on its side. If you have a really tall and long case, like most of the cases I use, this takes an awful lot of desk space. My desk never has that much space, so I'm inevitably stuck unplugging everything and transferring the computer to the floor.

      If you compare this to a case that's lying flat, it actually uses a lot less space.

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    3. Re:Unpractical, really by Endo13 · · Score: 1

      Maybe a little less, not a lot. But my tower sits on the floor anyway; it's a pretty trivial matter to lay it down in the rare circumstance that's required to swap a part. Anything besides a motherboard can usually be done just fine without even moving it. But this Antec case... it just doesn't look useful for anything really. There's other system test bed setups that are a lot more accessible if that's your goal, and any other standard case is going to fit somewhere. This one just gets in the way, and you can't put anything on top of it. I'll just stick with my big tower with the quick-release side panel, thanks.

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    4. Re:Unpractical, really by rtechie · · Score: 1

      Even if we assume that there are no problems with air circulation and proper cooling

      It's very difficult for me to believe that an open-air case with a big fan blowing out of the top (heat rises) will have inferior thermal characteristics to virtually ANY enclosed case. Give me a link to an enclosed, fans-only, case that has better thermal characteristics. Liquid cooling doesn't count.

      cannot be used like a destop type case

      This *IS* a desktop-type case. It's an open-air desktop case. It's taller than the normal desktop because of the fan and you can't stack stuff on top of it. A case you can stack stuff on does not define "desktop" case. The iMac is a desktop.

      Even for someone who likes fiddling with the parts a big tower without the left side panel

      A big tower would be bigger, heavier, and less accessible than this case. Removing only the left panel wouldn't let you swap drives easily.

      This case strikes me as being very light and has handles, which makes it very east to move (much moreso than the desktop or tower case you're discussing). For a test rig that people are likely to move around the office it would be very handy.

      I think you're misunderstanding the purpose of this case. This case doesn't replace other cases. It replaces "bunch of components sitting on a desktop in a test environment".

    5. Re:Unpractical, really by Enleth · · Score: 1

      It's very difficult for me to believe that an open-air case with a big fan blowing out of the top (heat rises) will have inferior thermal characteristics to virtually ANY enclosed case. Give me a link to an enclosed, fans-only, case that has better thermal characteristics. Liquid cooling doesn't count.

      It's much harder to direct streams of air in an open case. It can be done, but it's an engineering feat an order of magnitude harder than designing a properly cooled enclosed case (take a look at some prebuilt high-end workstations from IBM, they are perfectly quiet yet run cold because the air is directed through dedicated air ducts, everything in its path is carefully designed and there are seals on the side panels to prevent any unwanted inlets or outlets from appearing due to pressure).

      This *IS* a desktop-type case. It's an open-air desktop case. It's taller than the normal desktop because of the fan and you can't stack stuff on top of it. A case you can stack stuff on does not define "desktop" case. The iMac is a desktop.

      I think it was really damn obvious that I meant the kind of case you can stack stuff on, especially the monitor, as I was talking about the practicality of this case, namely the fact that it takes up a lot of space. And iMacs have the monitor built in, so there's no need to put a monitor on top of them. But you can't put a monitor on top of this Antec case, because there's this huge fan in there. I really hate to mention such stupidly obvious things when discussing something and hate it even more when it turns out that I have to because for someone it wasn't enough...

      A big tower would be bigger, heavier, and less accessible than this case. Removing only the left panel wouldn't let you swap drives easily.

      There are tower cases with the disk cage swiveling out for easy access, individual disks mounted on rapid-mounting slide rails, and expansion cards locked in place with levers - no need to push on them to insert, that is, no need to put the case on the side, it can still stand vertically, taking much less desk space than a desktop case. And there are some such towers made of aluminum, which are probably just a little heavier than this one.

      This case strikes me as being very light and has handles, which makes it very east to move (much moreso than the desktop or tower case you're discussing). For a test rig that people are likely to move around the office it would be very handy.

      I think you're misunderstanding the purpose of this case. This case doesn't replace other cases. It replaces "bunch of components sitting on a desktop in a test environment".

      I'm absolutely sure such a specialized case could be made much better than that, especially more compact and accessible. Those curved side beams look like they are actually making it harder to fiddle with cables on the mainboard even than with a simple tower case with the side panel removed, exposing the mainboard completely without any weird metal pieces getting in the way. And the sliding motherboard tray in this contraption looks like a complete misunderstanding - it slides out to the back and the card support frame doesn't move with it. Guessing from the photos, you'd need to take out all the expansion cards to actually slide the motherboard out to access it comfortably.

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    6. Re:Unpractical, really by Enleth · · Score: 1

      There are tower cases designed for the purpose of swapping parts while in the normal working position, they even have levers to push cards into slots so you don't trip the case over while pushing on a card.

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    7. Re:Unpractical, really by Skrapion · · Score: 1

      That's why I said often, not always. If you're only swapping expansion cards and hard drives, this is overkill.

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    8. Re:Unpractical, really by rtechie · · Score: 1

      It's much harder to direct streams of air in an open case.

      Putting all the components in open air negates the "streams of air" issue because the cold air is everywhere around the case. The paranoid could set up a box fan and point it at the case and have pretty much the same effect as ducting. With this case you start worrying about a cool ROOM.

      As I said, give me a link to a better air-cooled case. Trust me, it doesn't exist.

      There are tower cases with the disk cage swiveling out for easy access,

      With the Antec case you just hook them onto the side. Way fewer steps than anything else I've seen.

      individual disks mounted on rapid-mounting slide rails, and expansion cards locked in place with levers - no need to push on them to insert,

      I hate rails, and especially those level locks on expansion cards. I have never seen a case where these things weren't implemented as cheap plastic crap that broke constantly. You also lose rails, especially if you're switching components often. You end up having to use just as many screws and having another part to break.

      I'm absolutely sure such a specialized case could be made much better than that, especially more compact and accessible.

      You may be be right, I just haven't seen it. This Antec case is the easiest-access case I've ever seen, beating only loose components on the desk for cooling and ease of access.

      And the sliding motherboard tray in this contraption looks like a complete misunderstanding - it slides out to the back and the card support frame doesn't move with it. Guessing from the photos, you'd need to take out all the expansion cards to actually slide the motherboard out to access it comfortably.

      This was mentioned in the review: The one catch is the plastic card retention bar--if your graphics card is fairly small, you can slide it in sideways and plug it in without removing the bar. Otherwise, you'll be unscrewing that bar every time you want to pull the tray out.

      So if you anticipate pulling the motherboard out a lot, you simply unscrew the clear plastic card retainer and let your cards flop around. I would do this anyway (see my aforementioned hatred of cheap plastic crap). I would definitely prefer a metal retention bar here, but it's easy to unscrew so I could probably live with it.

  9. EMI by afidel · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't think any component manufacturer certifies their stuff running in free air, I would think you would get a lot of EMI out of a system like this that would interfere with anything around it.

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    1. Re:EMI by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Screw EMI. After all, they're part of the RIAA.

    2. Re:EMI by russ1337 · · Score: 1

      It is appropriate to say that Antec was 'thinking outside the box'....

      Exactly. The box is there for a reason. EMI is one of them.

      The other reason for the box, is to keep the monkeys I work with from getting out of control.

    3. Re:EMI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod parent up! Offtopic? I think it was quite witty.

    4. Re:EMI by IorDMUX · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Given that the divers components *within* the case seem to get along so well with each other (most of the time), and that most of the power consumed is dispersed as heat rather than controlled tones, I wouldn't think that this would be a problem.

      My previous computer was mostly plastic (yeah, bad choice... the case broke at a LAN party but I kept using it for 4 more years) with only a plate of steel behind the motherboard. This should *increase* the EMI (read: ground plane) but I certainly never had a problem. A CRT monitor or even your cable box produces far more EMI (and in those cases, more "tonal" EMI) than your computer.

      ...just checked. The FCC compatibility requirement is basically a "free air" certification.

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    5. Re:EMI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An open PC case means a lot of EMI/RF noise. Anyone with a scanner radio can confirm this (I could hear noise in several frequencies within my HOUSE when I had the case open).

      Where are the standards? How an open case can pass these FCC tests? (...not to create RF noise and can sustain RF noise...)

      People spend money to buy ultra quality sound cards just to let them operate unshielded? It's a shame...

    6. Re:EMI by elgatozorbas · · Score: 1

      ...with only a plate of steel behind the motherboard. This should *increase* the EMI (read: ground plane [wikipedia.org])

      In antenna designs the presence of a ground plane increases the radiation in certain directions while lowering it in others (most notably the direction of the ground plane itself). The total amount of radiated power is not increased (ignoring effects of possible improved antenna matching). Your PC is no antenna, designed to radiate (though it will). The influence of the ground plane will be very unpredictable.

  10. Cool idea by Kral_Blbec · · Score: 0

    I had a similar idea for a case I wanted to build last year that I never got around to doing. I wanted to take a plate and put a plastic bubble over the top with a huge fan at the apex. I was thinking of using sheet metal for the base and one of the sunlight domes you can get at lowes or some place for the plastic and mounting it so there was a inch or so between the base plate and the dome. I think it would be a really good design for heat dispersal, but I'm lazy and never did it.

  11. EMC issues? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    A modern PC built in that is going to radiate from DC to daylight!

    Little chance of anyone actually being able to sell PCs built in that thing into the European market as it would never pass the radiated emissions limits (And would quite likely have problems with the immunity requirements).
    I suspect that pretty much the same thing applies wrt the FCC in the states.

    I know, it makes me a boring old fart, but I was under the impression that the point of building a PC was to build a good one, and I have a lot of difficulty seeing how that 'case' is a win from any perspective.

    Reliability?
    Acoustics?
    RFI Immunity?
    Ability to listen to the radio within a quarter mile?

    Nope? Not interested.

    Regards, Dan.

    1. Re:EMC issues? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Who cares? Anyone who buys a case like this isn't going to buy a pre-made computer, they're going to build it themselves. There's no laws (at least here in the USA) against selling parts like this, regardless of the fact that the resulting system won't be EMI-compliant.

      Besides, the typical place for one of these to be used is in a corporate lab, where EMI, reliability, and acoustics aren't a concern, and listening to the radio definitely won't be a concern.

    2. Re:EMC issues? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      There's no laws (at least here in the USA) against selling parts like this

      No, just laws against using them.

  12. Tesla Coil! by corsec67 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just put a Tesla coil on top.

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  13. Nothing new, just slightly prettier by Kraeloc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The vaguely-cube-shaped open-air case is in no way a new concept. Just off the top of my head, there's the DangerDen torture rack. Not to mention every 15-year-old hardware enthusiast who can't afford a real case and has to build one out of lego/wood/cardboard/k'nex. What would actually be interesting would be a standard vertical tower case, built without the need or even the capacity for side panels. Just an open-air midtower case that actually looks good. And don't tell me to take off my side panels, because that's not the point here.

  14. Dust. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    case closed.

  15. Prior Art? Kinda? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
  16. that's hardly 'open' by Anonymous+Cowpat · · Score: 1

    It ought to look more like a Tri-D chess board from Star Trek. (Pic)

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  17. EM Shielding? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Doesn't seem like a very good idea to me...

    Solid metal casing also shields EM radiation from leaking out of the computer, and that can be quite a bit.

    I never understood why people go for those Plexiglas cases either...

    Ever tried to operate a radio near an ungrounded computer without proper shielding? +9db interference in most of the shortwave spectrum is what I got last time I tried that...

  18. Awesome. by dangitman · · Score: 4, Funny

    This will go great with my skull-shaped bong.

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  19. Dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the dumbest and ugliest case I've ever seen. Obviously designed for teenagers.

  20. new spin .... by vaderj · · Score: 1

    maybe its a little nicer looking, but i havent had any cose cover since windows 98 came out; needed the air for my overclocked amd k6-2 with 3dnow!

  21. Wow, by Dr.D.IS.GREAT · · Score: 0

    Im impressed; i think this sorta case would be best suited for the hackintoshen boxen. just because us boys are allways trying out the latest and greatest to see if it all really just works:)

    However, i think foxcon made a case like this. i think brother mark mueller said something about in the upgrading and repairing pc's 17th ediition dvd.

    can anyone confirm this?

    dr. d

    1. Re:Wow, by compro01 · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of this gadget.

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    2. Re:Wow, by Dr.D.IS.GREAT · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of this gadget.



      YES THAT IS THE ONE!
  22. looks perfect... by marcushnk · · Score: 1

    For when my 7 month old son decides it's time to learn walking... :-P

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  23. This is not the STUPIDIST idea ever by NemoinSpace · · Score: 2
    but it's high on the list.

    Price: $189 (list)

    You can by a lot of dry wall screws and angle iron for that price, *and* customize it with a tin foil hat hanger!

    1. Re:This is not the STUPIDIST idea ever by Neoprofin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's the killer.

      If it was comparable with a standard simple case $40-100 I could see getting one just for the fun of it. Unless the entire thing is a solid block of Aluminum and functions as a giant passive heat sink there's nothing there worth almost $200.

  24. Cooling issues? by Moe1975 · · Score: 0

    From what I understand about conventional closed tower cases, the vents present on both right and left side panels are meant to enable air to be channeled over the motherboard, thus providing cooling.

    Wouldn't this design actually cause components to overheat?

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  25. not EXACTLY a new or great idea by kelarius · · Score: 0

    There has always been that HSPC "testing station" that can be used for alot of the same uses being touted for this hunk of junk. Personally, I dont really care to spend 190 for a not-that-pretty open air case that doesnt protect at all especially when the only use i can think of for this (easy access for testing) can just as easily be accomplished by screwing some standoffs into a piece of plywood in my opinion.

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  26. Why so cramped? by nog_lorp · · Score: 1

    If I'm gonna get a 'Skeleton Case' I don't want it to be tiny and cluttered, I want it to be open and easy to fiddle with. That case looks cramped as fuck. My 20.6" x 8.1" x 17.8" case is cramped with cables already.

  27. I will not be purchasing one of these. by bistromath007 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    There is a semen stain on my case.

    1. Re:I will not be purchasing one of these. by Von+Helmet · · Score: 1

      I've said it before, and I'll say it again... Slashdot desperately needs a -1 too informative mod.

  28. Been doing it for years. by linko47 · · Score: 1

    I've used a skeleton case for years. (Standard Case with all paneling removed). It experiences low temperatures, and it's really nice being able to look over and see your machine doing its job. Also makes modifications/repairs very easy.

  29. Unhealthy - lack of RF shielding. by tomhudson · · Score: 1

    One of the benefits of having the computer in a metal case is the shielding from high-frequency radiation. Older computers used to have a problem with RTC time skew because of interference from various components. The early plastic-cased computers with the external floppy drives could make cordless phones ring whenever they wrote to disk.

    This is NOT a healthy development.

    1. Re:Unhealthy - lack of RF shielding. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      hahahaha.

      It would be fine.

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  30. No big deal by gacl · · Score: 1

    About eight years ago i used to have my main computer just laying on the floor with the components on a piece of cardboard. I'd had enough with the fan noise and i just took the fans off and dispensed with the case to keep it from overheating. It worked for years without failing me. I don't have to do that anymore because now we have subnotebooks with no moving parts.

    1. Re:No big deal by aeiah · · Score: 1

      i still do that with our 2nd pc. its just an old dell i picked up for £20. its on a piece of wood though, which is far easier to move than cardboard. you should have upgraded your case to wood before you went to the darkside and got a notebook

  31. Well, it's been said for a long time... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like a moth to the skeleton case.

  32. Some people always trying to ice skate uphill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's definitely a niche product in every sense of the word. For a developement lab, it could be a pretty neat toy, but as another person commented, why not just leave all the parts on top of the desk if you're in that sort of enviroment.
    I personally don't see any use for it for your average user. Especially since cases these days have gotten all fancy with swing down side doors allowing easy parts access, tool-less drive slots, etc. etc.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see someone get one of those cases, and then install some plexiglass sides into it just to appease the gods of "doing things the hard way."

  33. Definition of a 'Component' by Khyber · · Score: 1

    In the repair field, a fan and heatsink combo is considered a component, and is called a 'Thermal Module.'

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  34. So what is the nice exactly? by HexOxide · · Score: 0

    So what is the niche exactly? Complete idiots? Seriously the only people I can imagine buying this case are exactly the people who shouldn't be tinkering with their hard ware in the first place. My mother and younger brother would want something like this, and I don't want them to have it, they cause me problems. Besides, that thing is friggin' ugly, it's big and inconveniently shaped. Where would I put it? There's no room for it on top of my desk, no while it's that shape and size. It can't go under my desk.. That's where my sub woofer goes, and I like to put my feet on my sub woofer, I don't want to/CAN'T put my feet on than thing. Plus how much is it going to cost in maintenance? That case screams to me, either a LOT of compressed air, or lots of time and effort being careful with a vacuum cleaner.

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  35. Other options by geek2k5 · · Score: 1

    I seem to recall seeing something like this in a catalog I got not long ago. It was designed for component testing. It wasn't quite as fancy though.

  36. Skeleton? Here I was thinking bones... by NotNormallyNormal · · Score: 1

    With Halloween coming I thought maybe it was going to be a case that actually looked like a skeleton... now THAT'S a case I could dig!

  37. Orac! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So that's where you've been hiding since Blake's 7 was canceled!