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Dead Space Wants To Scare You

Kotaku recently ran a story questioning whether the survival-horror genre still exists, and how Dead Space may or may not fit into it. With reviews for the game starting to come in, Ars Technica reports that the game is, indeed, both scary and good. Gamespy wrote up a Dead Space survival guide, and Gamasutra has a lengthy interview with the game's senior producer. In the production of the game, the developers studied things like car wrecks and war scenes to increase the level of realism. They also want the game's sounds to terrify players, including appropriately timed silence. The launch trailer is also available, though it does contain spoilers.

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  1. Maybe it's me by dmomo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I haven't gotten the chills from a game since Doom2. Thinking back, I wonder if now I would get the same feeling. I guess part of it's realism, but as/more important is the immersion. I've not been able to turn up the volume, shit the door and leave the real world in a while.

    Another important thing in scaring someone is that there has to be some negative outcome that they are genuinely concerned about. A game can look as creepy as Hell, and the sound can be spot on. But, if I am not afraid to die, to lose something I've worked for, I'll just think it's cool.

    Give me that tension. Make losing my character be a significant loss. Then, those dark rooms, eerie creeks and nervous silences just might make a bit uncomfortable.

    1. Re:Maybe it's me by dmomo · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wow. "Shit the door". Well, I stand by that. It sure has been a while.

    2. Re:Maybe it's me by konohitowa · · Score: 5, Funny

      Glad you caught that first. I personally only shit bricks, and that's already painful enough. That door must be brutal, what with the slivers and all.

    3. Re:Maybe it's me by oljanx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nothing in a game has ever frightened me more than Doom e1m2. Why? Because it was a new (to me). A dark room filled with monsters, periodically illuminated by quick flashes of bright light. It's not about the graphics, the realism, etc. It's all about throwing players into creepy situations they haven't experienced a thousand times before.

    4. Re:Maybe it's me by DeadDecoy · · Score: 3, Funny

      A game can look as creepy as Hell, and the sound can be spot on. But, if I am not afraid to die, to lose something I've worked for, I'll just think it's cool.

      Ya, whenever my router's internet light goes out while playing a game, all I can do is hide beneath the sheets and pray to God it's not the end of the world.

    5. Re:Maybe it's me by Schemat1c · · Score: 4, Funny

      That door must be brutal, what with the slivers and all.

      Especially if it comes out sideways. Ouch!

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    6. Re:Maybe it's me by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Informative

      You sound like somebody who is in need of a dose of System Shock 2.

    7. Re:Maybe it's me by dunezone · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The thing about Doom is we felt alone. There were no computers to read dialog, no diary's, no nothing. It was you, a weapon, and a shit load of monsters. The feeling of being a world by yourself gives you a sense of helplessness, even though you knew you could beat blast the monsters away, if you got caught with no ammo, no one was there to save you.

      With these newer games that are horror survival, there's usually a secondary character watching over you, so there is that chance they might save you even though they probably wont it gives you a different mindset.

    8. Re:Maybe it's me by dontthink · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Right on. System Shock 2 is in my top 5 games of all time.

      Sorry to hijack your point, but I picked up Dead Space yesterday mainly due to the decent reviews it was getting and the fact that it shared a lot with SS2 (RPG elements, sci-fi setting, horror) and about 3-4 hours in I'm sorely disappointed. I replayed SS2 a few months ago, and was absolutely engrossed over the few days it took me to finish it. The screeches of those fucking monkeys still creep me out. Dead Space just kind of feels lacking.

      I want to be scared by Dead Space, but so far I've only gotten startled once by a loud noise while turning a corner. Keep in mind, I've been playing in a dark room with the sound turned up and the difficulty on hard. People claiming it's the scariest game of all time clearly haven't played SS2, Call of Cthulu, Silent Hill 2, etc. It feels a lot like Doom 3 in 3rd person and awkward controls, while I was expecting a cross between SS2 and RE4. That said, I'm enjoying it quite a bit even if it is a bit disappointing.

      There are definitely some cool things about the game - the fact that there's no HUD (your health is displayed as a meter on your back) definitely helps immersion, but Call of Cthulu pulled it off better (and is FAR scarier than Dead Space). The Zero G bits have potential, but I've only been in one so I haven't had a chance to see what they do with it. The stasis effects are nifty too. I like the gore, even though it can get a bit silly sometimes. I've yet to see anything as visceral as getting decapitated by one of the chainsaw sisters in RE4 - though a few death animations come close.

      SO yeah, to sum it up DS is pretty fun, not scary (so far), but probably not a must buy at this point. GOTY contender it is not in my eyes.

    9. Re:Maybe it's me by LurkerXXX · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That was the one thing I didn't like about Bioshock. There wasn't any penalty for getting your character killed. Otherwise it was a very creepy/scary game. That removed a lot of the potential tension.

    10. Re:Maybe it's me by Cylix · · Score: 2, Funny

      Back in the day...

      Whenever I GM'd, it was all about survival, in fact it wasn't a successful game unless someone died.

      I was not exactly sadistic, but there were logical and very simple ways of avoiding death. It just so happened that everyone was a complete moron.

      Once, I even let them build a fortress (with traps), free of charge. Sure enough, someone fell into the pit of spikes.

      Good times!

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    11. Re:Maybe it's me by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you want a good scary PC game,just in time for Halloween,you should try Nosferatu which was the last game to scare the hell out of me. I just finished reinstalling it for Halloween as a matter of fact. The great thing about Nosferatu is not only does it change every time you play(so you can memorize the monster layout) but it uses old time weapons like muskets. Standing at the top of the stairs and hearing a hellbeast running up them from below and knowing that if I don't hit him in the face,dead solid perfect he is going to rip my face off,now THAT is scary. And the music is perfect,like one of the old Universal monster pictures. In fact the whole game has a Universal Classic monster movie feel to it IMHO.

      Sadly I won't be trying Dead Space,since IIRC it is an EA game,and I refuse to pay $60 for a rental. Until EA straightens their ass up and treats gamers as actual paying customers they won't be seeing another dime from me. It is a shame that developers put so much work into a game only to see it boned by pathetic DRM by EA that does NOTHING but piss off the paying customers like me. Because News Flash EA,the pirates don't get boned by your DRM crap,because they get the game(often before the release date) with it ripped out. So the only ones you are screwing is your paying customers and yourself,when you run customers like me off who have bought a ton of your games in the past. Oh well,I'm sure there are plenty of other companies who will gladly take my money.

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    12. Re:Maybe it's me by PMBjornerud · · Score: 2, Informative

      But, if I am not afraid to die, to lose something I've worked for, I'll just think it's cool.

      Give me that tension. Make losing my character be a significant loss. Then, those dark rooms, eerie creeks and nervous silences just might make a bit uncomfortable.

      If I stretch that a bit, you're basically stating that horror movies or literature cannot exist. It does, so I claim you're wrong.

      Losing playtime is about the hardcore / casual divide. You are correct that it can add a bit of extra tension to the game, but for many people (me included) it is just mindbogglingly annoying and ruins a game more than anything else.

      You mention immersion, and you're right. And for me, worrying about save spots, backtracking safe areas to save, and reloading for the nth time breaks immersion just as bad as anything else.

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    13. Re:Maybe it's me by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The thing about Doom is we felt alone. There were no computers to read dialog, no diary's, no nothing. It was you, a weapon, and a shit load of monsters. The feeling of being a world by yourself gives you a sense of helplessness, even though you knew you could beat blast the monsters away, if you got caught with no ammo, no one was there to save you.

      I agree with the second part, but disagree with the first part. Some games get scarier when you know more about the story.

      Watch this little game. Project Firestart is over 20 years old and it still scares the crap out of me.

      And what to say about the Silent Hill games? Having to kill your best buddy to survive, the possibility of you actually being insane, etc. How about this: You're trapped trying to get a door open, and there's a key on the other side. You crawl to try to get it, and guess what? A spoiled little brat comes out and kicks it away! Or when you're trapped with all those things hanging in the celing, and the girl is on the other side. You yell, bang at the door and scream. Get me out of here! But guess what, she locked you inside. I'll never forget the frustration, anger and fear I felt at that time. It's one thing going to face the boss on your own account and by your own will. But this feeling of helplessness...

      It's not just the monsters. It's the psychology of the games. When designed well (or ill, to be precise), they can give you nightmares for weeks.

    14. Re:Maybe it's me by d0cu · · Score: 4, Informative

      First version of AvP was also scary as hell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens_versus_Predator_(computer_game)

    15. Re:Maybe it's me by Digital+End · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's okay, there will be a non DRM version out. In fact I hear it's cheaper

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    16. Re:Maybe it's me by Narishma · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They will learn when nobody buys their game. Unfortunately (fortunately for them) that will never happen.

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    17. Re:Maybe it's me by YouWantFriesWithThat · · Score: 3, Funny

      really? so i can burn a copy of the original and play that, so i don't have to worry about scratching it?

    18. Re:Maybe it's me by meringuoid · · Score: 2, Informative
      The DRM really isn't that horrible, and it absolutely does stop casual pirates.

      How's that, then? A casual pirate who, what, burns off a copy on CD for his mates? What do you think this is, 1999? A casual pirate downloads a cracked copy from TPB, mounts the image in Daemon Tools or similar, and plays it that way. He never even encounters the DRM.

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    19. Re:Maybe it's me by gknoy · · Score: 2, Informative

      I haven't gotten the chills from a game since Doom2. Thinking back, I wonder if now I would get the same feeling. I guess part of it's realism, but as/more important is the immersion. I've not been able to turn up the volume, shit the door and leave the real world in a while.

      My biggest problem is that many developers mistake fear with being startled. The game engines often "cheat" (especially the Doom series), spawning enemies, etc. It's easy to go too far -- witness Doom3. Ironically, F.E.A.R. did this ... and actually managed to do it well. Usually it was your standard shooter, with not-bad enemy AI, but every now and then you'd get a non-sequitur, "holyshitwhatwasthat" moment. Playing that game at night was very stressful -- just because I knew that the game WOULD occasionally "cheat" in a non-harmful way (so it was fun rather than threatening, but still startling as hell).

      Another important thing in scaring someone is that there has to be some negative outcome that they are genuinely concerned about... If I am not afraid to die, to lose something I've worked for, I'll just think it's cool.

      To me, zombie-horror style games seem to fit this mold well. So go games with relatively distant checkpoints, where I will need to replay stuff. The thing is, it has to also reward cautious/fearful gameplay. If the game will periodically drop a roomful of enemies on me, with no chance to avoid them, it's annoying. If, however, I CAN avoid the grisly deaths they have planned for me -- if I don't fuck up or get careless -- then I actually get more careful in my gameplay. Otherwise, it's quickload, run, gun, die, repeat until I get lucky... and that's not really promoting fear.

      The best examples are games where I almost never need to save or load, but have numerous close calls. I can't think of many like that, though. Splinter Cell and early Rainbow Six games come close, since you CAN'T save... and thus I'm always on pins and needles of "dont screw up".. but they aren't really meant to scare you. I'm hoping I can get my hands on a Cthulu game this winter, as that ought to do a good job, I hope. :)

    20. Re:Maybe it's me by enderjsv · · Score: 2, Insightful

      As for you wanting to be tense and afraid to loose something you worked for, all I can say is this; A lot of people are like that, but it makes absolutely no since what-so-ever. Life is stressful, life is tense, life is challenging, so why in the hell would I want to "Play" a game that has those same factors?

      Because in real life, if the axe murderer in the corner jumps out of the shadows and takes a swipe at you, no amount of health packets is gonna save you.

      Incidentally, the whole "why would you want to do this escapist activity when it also exists in some fashion in real life" is a very played out argument that completely misses the point of escapism and why people enjoy it. Just thought you'd like to know.

  2. Problems.... by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem in making a good survival horror game is that people just aren't scared anymore. We are used to movies with blood everywhere and body parts flying in every direction. Mix that in with the current technology of load times and lag and a survival horror game just isn't going to work. Granted, you can make a fairly good and creepy game, but the tactics that worked in the past aren't going to work today.

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    1. Re:Problems.... by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem in making a good survival horror game is that people just aren't scared anymore. We are used to movies with blood everywhere and body parts flying in every direction. Mix that in with the current technology of load times and lag and a survival horror game just isn't going to work. Granted, you can make a fairly good and creepy game, but the tactics that worked in the past aren't going to work today.

      But that isn't scary, just nasty... Some of the scariest movies of my life had little or no gore. Now that have traded dread for surprise and shock. I wild love to have some good old fashioned Dread back. This might be it. I just hope the DRM is not the scary part of the game!

    2. Re:Problems.... by Scutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem in making a good survival horror game is that people just aren't scared anymore.

      The problem is that we're tired of producers confusing "scaring" us with "startling" us. How many times did something jump out of the dark at you in Doom 3? Don't you remember playing 95% of the game switching between your gun and your flashlight and constantly entering rooms backwards because you knew the monster was going to come out of a hidden door behind you? That's not scary, it's just annoying as hell.

      You look at recent horror films like The Ring (setting aside that it wasn't a very good movie). That movie was scary as crap, and the director did it by actually scaring you.

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    3. Re:Problems.... by ucblockhead · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. What made "F.E.A.R." great at this wasn't the "startle" moments, or the gore, but scenes that created an air of foreboding. For instance, you walk down a dark hallway and see a vague shape jump around the corner. Go around the corner, and there's nothing there. *That* is what creates the feeling of impending doom, not the fifteenth iteration of "turn lights off, open up closet behind player containing monsters".

      I stopped playing Doom 3 when I realized that I had developed an instinctual tick of turning around and firing every time the lights went out.

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    4. Re:Problems.... by WDot · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I disagree with the idea that people aren't scared anymore. Horror is like humor, it has to be surprising to be effective. The first part of Doom 3 was scary for me because I was caught off guard when stuff jumped out at me. But eventually I learned to constantly watch all sides and I got pretty fast at switching between gun and flashlight. The problem was there were monsters in EVERY ROOM. I could even accurately estimate how far I would get into a room before I was attacked. There was one good level, and it went like this: for the first third or so there were no monsters, just creepy ambient sounds and dark rooms. When a gasket blew it scared the hell out of me because I felt uneasy the whole time. I saw shadows crawling across the ceiling, but nothing was alive. I was hoping Doom 3 did that more, but it went back to pure monster closets afterward.

      I'm not a horror connoisseur, but the scariest game I've played thus far is the Afraid of Monsters mod for Half Life. I gave up on the game before I even fought a single monster. Why? Because as soon as the 2nd level loaded I felt incredibly unsafe. There were tons of doors around me, in front of me, and behind me. Any one of them could spew out a bunch of monsters. But none did, yet. The worst part was the ambient sound that kept me completely uneasy. It wasn't obvious stuff like monsters or whatever, it was just a carefully crafted sound that made me uncomfortable the entire time I played. To compound the issue, I wasn't a superpowerful space marine. In the game I was an unarmed drug addict who was hallucinating. Even in broad daylight, with other people in the house, I just couldn't bring myself to play it. I tried several 2 minute plays before I gave up. It was too scary for me. I never saw a single monster. That is good horror.

    5. Re:Problems.... by westlake · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The problem is that we're tired of producers confusing "scaring" us with "startling" us. How many times did something jump out of the dark at you in Doom 3?
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      H.P. Lovecraft at his best could chill you to the bone with nothing more explicit than an overwhelming sense of age and power:

      That the closer you came to the heart of things, the more likely you were to go utterly and irretrievably mad.

      Hitchcock, working in another genre, always knew that the fuse hits the audience harder than the bang - which, in the end, is just another special effect.

      The shower scene in Psycho works because the audience is as keyed up and helpless in his hands as the girl.

    6. Re:Problems.... by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Funny

      I stopped playing Doom 3 when I realized that I had developed an instinctual tick of turning around and firing every time the lights went out.

      All the time, or only in Doom? Remind me not to follow you at night...

    7. Re:Problems.... by ender- · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Exactly. What made "F.E.A.R." great at this wasn't the "startle" moments, or the gore, but scenes that created an air of foreboding. For instance, you walk down a dark hallway and see a vague shape jump around the corner. Go around the corner, and there's nothing there. *That* is what creates the feeling of impending doom, not the fifteenth iteration of "turn lights off, open up closet behind player containing monsters".

      I stopped playing Doom 3 when I realized that I had developed an instinctual tick of turning around and firing every time the lights went out.

      I never played F.E.A.R, but I got this same feeling playing Quake 4. There was still some of the Doom3-like 'stuff coming up behind me' moments, but there were a few parts of Q4 that just scared the crap out of me.

      Like the one level where you're crawling around in some sub-level [not quite a sewer and not quite a dungeon]. It's mostly dark, with some light shining in from the grates above you. As you're walking along trying to find your way out, you hear something skittering about going down different hallways, sometimes seeing a shadow flick by. That scared the crap out of me, never knowing what it was, where it was, or what it was going to do. What made it all worth it, was that it never attacked me as I expected.

      There was also the cutscene where your character gets uh, 'converted' or whatever it was called. You've got a 1st person view of your body strapped down in some sort of cart, and you can see the people ahead of you strapped into carts, going along an assembly line of sorts. I was playing this late at night with a good sound system, in the dark.
      Man when it got to the part where you watched a 3-foot pipe being repeatedly stabbed into the chest of the guy ahead of you, I damn near ran for the door, and when it happened to my character, I swear I felt something enter my chest.

      If a game is going to try to scare me, that's the kind of environmental/emotional attachment it has to have for me. Otherwise it's just startling me or throwing out more blood and gore, which just bores me [no pun intended]...

    8. Re:Problems.... by PunkOfLinux · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have to say that the Silent Hill games are WONDERFUL for this. Look at the first game (i believe, *may* be 2). As you're entering town, you see just a streak of blood on the road. That's *it*. I remember seeing that, thinking "shit."

      Silent Hill games are, honestly, some of the best in the genre. Also, Fatal Frame games are good. Freaky as fuck.

    9. Re:Problems.... by paniq · · Score: 2, Funny

      I stopped playing Doom 3 when I realized that I had developed an instinctual tick of turning around and firing every time the lights went out.

      this could become a bit unsettling in intimate situations. i hope that your girlfriend loves you anyway.

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    10. Re:Problems.... by Rennt · · Score: 2, Informative

      I never know if people are talking about "Ring" the original Japanese version (freaking scary) or the American remake "The Ring" (redundant and stupid). Check out the Japanese version for insane chill factor.

    11. Re:Problems.... by IorDMUX · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hey, as long as you're taking requests, please don't follow me at night, either. It kind of creeps me out.

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  3. Gore doesn't scare me but... by pieisgood · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sudden appearances and loud noises do. I've seen all the car wrecks and war images you can see, but loud noises and mixed with strobe lights can get me every time. If Dead Space relies on Gore to scare people, it just won't. On the other hand, if they are using lighting and sound to scare you, then, from my perspective, they're doing their job right.

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    1. Re:Gore doesn't scare me but... by pecosdave · · Score: 4, Funny

      Man-Bear-Pig is as scary as it gets!

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    2. Re:Gore doesn't scare me but... by cailith1970 · · Score: 3, Funny

      loud noises and mixed with strobe lights can get me every time.

      Hmm, you should probably stay away from nightclubs then. :)

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    3. Re:Gore doesn't scare me but... by HiVizDiver · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The backwards-whispering children ambient noises in Thief's "Return to the Cathedral" mission made the hair on my neck stand up.

  4. DRM Space scares me more.... by GrpA · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Dead Space I can handle.

    GrpA

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  5. fff by ghostunit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Silent Hill 2 ... its weakness was that it sprawled thematically, leaving many loose ends, unanswered questions, unclear conclusions and unrelated elements.

    That was not a weakness, it was one of its main strengths! The ambiguity of the story makes the viewer think and wonder about just what was it that was seen. And it does so in a masterful way, provoking interesting thoughts and interpretations on the part of the viewer. Not to mention that uncertainty is a key element of suspense and fear.

    On a side note, this kind of attitude of wanting everything spoon-fed and explained is very lazy and too typical of people who just want to sit in front of a box to be entertained for a set amount of time. That's entirely different to wanting a piece of art that lingers in the mind long after experienced.

  6. Unreal.... by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Remember fighting those green spider things in the dark by throwing flares around and lighting up little areas?

    Let's not confuse that with "suddenly make a loud noise in a quiet bit".

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    1. Re:Unreal.... by paniq · · Score: 5, Funny

      Remember fighting those green spider things in the dark by throwing flares around and lighting up little areas?

      yah. i do it once a year. it's called "house cleaning".

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  7. Call of Cthulhu by nawcom · · Score: 4, Informative
    I'd say this is the last game that scared the shit out of me. The fact that you don't have any health bar, and that your vision, hearing, and even your heartbeat and breathing pace are affected by the situation can really frighten you. I don't think this game got enough credit. I still haven't finished the game yet.

    Here's a nice 10 minute video that gives you the general feeling of the whole game. (minus the 320x240 resolution and lossy quality of course). If you get bored skip to the middle.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vs-7_JlzJg

    1. Re:Call of Cthulhu by Fred_A · · Score: 2, Funny

      You don't kill your enemies in CoC - they kill you!

      So it's kind of like a Russian FPS then ?

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  8. Meh. by binarylarry · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I liked this game better when it was called Doom 3.

    At least then the graphics were cutting edge, instead of 3-4 years out of date.

    Not that graphics are the end all, be all of a game. But this game has the same plot as every doom (and doom clone) ever made.

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  9. The Game That Terrified Me by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Super Mario. When they play that sound that shows you are running out of time to complete the level and then the music plays fast, rushing you and you know you're nowhere near the end of the level. I can't go on.

  10. Lovecraft by PMBjornerud · · Score: 3, Insightful

    but scenes that created an air of foreboding. For instance, you walk down a dark hallway and see a vague shape jump around the corner. Go around the corner, and there's nothing there. *That* is what creates the feeling of impending doom

    You are spot on. Horror is foreboding, knowing that something bad is going to happen, just not knowing exactly how or when.

    I'll make a reference to H.P.Lovecraft. Arguably the most famous horror author, and basically all his stories starts with telling you how awful everything went in the end. Then he starts describing exactly how it happened and why it couldn't be avoided.

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  11. Re:Want to be really scared? Try this: by totally+bogus+dude · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nice. One improvement if the original isn't hardcore scary enough:

    # [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf /* || \
    ( dd if=/dev/md0 of=/dev/null count=100000 bs=8192 2>/dev/null ; echo You live )

    This way, you get to sit there in suspense for a while as your hard drive goes berserk, hoping desperately that it comes back with "You live". (Replace /dev/md0 with your root.)

  12. It's not about stopping piracy by Nick+Ives · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's about killing the resale market. You can get pirate copies for PC & 360 regardless of any protection they put on. I don't know about PS3 but I expect it will be forthcoming.

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