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Spider Missing After Trip To Space Station

Garabito writes "A spider that had been sent to the International Space Station for a school science program was lost. Two arachnids were sent in order to know if spiders can survive and make webs in space, but now only one spider can be seen in the container. NASA isn't sure where the other spider could have gone. I, for one, welcome our new arachnid overlords."

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  1. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 5, Funny

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  2. Let me be the first to say by Hasney · · Score: 5, Funny

    I for one, welcome our ne.....

    Damn you summary for stealing our memes!

    1. Re:Let me be the first to say by SleptThroughClass · · Score: 2, Funny

      What? We're supposed to read the summary now? How are we supposed to comment properly if we might pick up even hints of facts?

  3. Isn't there extra radiation in space? by gurps_npc · · Score: 5, Funny

    If I were those astronauts, I'd be hoping the spider bites me.

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    1. Re:Isn't there extra radiation in space? by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Funny

      On an outer-space adventure, they were hit by cosmic rays. Those spiders were changed forever, in most fantastic ways! Here come the two! The fantastic two!

      Spider one can spin elastic! Two can hide from sight! Spiderone got the crap end of the deal, so it murdered the other one in the night! Here come to the two! The fantastic two!

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  4. Hmmm. by Dibblah · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is the other spider suspiciously... Larger?

  5. Missing spider by Cruciform · · Score: 5, Funny

    Lost.
    That's what the other spider claims, anyway. In other news, that spider just submitted a replacement for ReiserFS.

    1. Re:Missing spider by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      too soon

    2. Re:Missing spider by Cruciform · · Score: 2, Funny

      Woosh. That was the sound of the reference going right over your head :P

  6. spiders on a spaceship! by thrillseeker · · Score: 5, Funny

    Samuel Jackson just got a 3AM phone call ...

  7. Losing Stuff in Space Memes by mfh · · Score: 2

    We've probably all seen the video on youtube with the stoned spiders, and the kooky webs they make. I wonder what the effects of cosmic radiation will be on this spider who will be waiting a long time for a snack to buzz into his web. Unless, by space-surviving spider, they mean he can eat non-living things like dust? I think he likely drifted off like the $100000 tool belt that one space-walking astronaught lost yesterday. At least this loss wasn't as expensive. However it's possible this is a mutated spider that craves the media attention for the lulz, in which case it's possible that the spider unlatched the tool-belt in order to make a getaway, and build his own Evil Spider Space Station, with his newly acquired tool set, and other classified missing materials (that would not be reported)!

    Although in another scenario, the tool belt will fall to earth with the spider riding it, Slim Pickens style, to crash land and obliterate some curious bystander, ala Dead Like Me. I still think it is more likely the spider will crash land somewhere and start another internet meme (link site contains articles that are 100% NSFW).

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  8. First Post From Space by MediumWare · · Score: 5, Funny

    All your webs are belong to us

    1. Re:First Post From Space by owlnation · · Score: 2, Funny

      In space no one can hear you spin.

  9. That is why.... by wpiman · · Score: 4, Funny

    there were redundant spiders. A must in space applications.

    1. Re:That is why.... by andrewd18 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I want my own Redundant Array of Independent Spiders!

    2. Re:That is why.... by damonlab · · Score: 2, Funny

      I would much prefer a redundant array of inexpensive spiders.

  10. Origin Story? by senor_burt · · Score: 5, Funny
    I am reminded of this Onion story...

    Boy Bitten by Radioactive Spider Dies of Leukemia (Sorry, couldn't source the original)...

  11. makes by JCSoRocks · · Score: 4, Funny

    The arachnid was sent in order to know if spiders can survive and makes webs in space...

    makes? I makes teh webs and yous gives mes teh bugs. Otherwise, I eats other spiders.

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    1. Re:makes by geminidomino · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm in ur ear, layin mah eggz.....

  12. Missing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If right now, I were an astronaut wearing a spacesuit, I guess I'd be feeling kind of itchy all over...

  13. Sounds to me like Sabotage by kipin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Step 1: "Lose" toolbag in space
    Step 2: "Lose" spider in space
    Step 3: ????
    Step 4: Space domination

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    1. Re:Sounds to me like Sabotage by SessionExpired · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wouldn't it be wonderful if life on Earth originated from a similar mishap (bug science project + lost tool bag)?

      I'm reading "Deception Point" by Dan Brown at the moment (currently at p. 204 in the paperback version).

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  14. Re:Spiders are not cannibals by BlowHole666 · · Score: 4, Informative
    The more you know ....

    Black widow spiders typically prey on a variety of insects, but occasionally they do feed upon woodlice, diplopods, chilopods and other arachnids.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_widow_spider

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  15. Robots.txt by cpu_fusion · · Score: 3, Funny

    Only one spider could read.

  16. Re:Where oh where? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Informative

    If this was the result of spider cannibalism, it'd be easier to just find the dessicated spider husk left in the container. They probably checked for that.

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  18. Yo.... by codefungus · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...check the lid.

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  19. How Spiders Eat by ChromaticDragon · · Score: 4, Informative

    To everyone (including myself) whose first thought was that the one spider ate the other, I'd suggest we consider how spiders eat.

    Spiders don't swallow prey whole. If it'd been two or three octopuses, fish, snakes, frogs or any other sort of animal, this would make sense. But I'd be willing to bet one spider eating the other wouldn't have gone unnoticed for at least a couple of reasons. First, spiders don't eat quickly. One spider eating something the same size would be sucking the juices out of the other for quite a long time (hours). Second, the spiders are messy in the sense that they tend to leave dried out carcasses laying around after they're done.

    So... that's probably not what happened.

    1. Re:How Spiders Eat by Toe,+The · · Score: 2, Informative

      Depends on the species. I have personally seen a spider literally eat a fly, carefully biting and chewing it piece by piece. In about three minutes, there was nothing at all left of the fly. I have no idea what species it was, but based on this one anecdote, I can guess that at least some spiders ingest the entire prey, even if they cannot digest all of it.

  20. Not necessarily by Moraelin · · Score: 5, Interesting

    All spiders can only ingest liquid food, and in fact have two filters to prevent solids from getting in.

    From there it gets funnier:

    - most spiders simply inject the prey with enzymes that liquefy its innards, then suck the resulting liquid lunch. In this case they'd still find the empty chitin shell of the spider.

    - some actually "chew" the food while flooding it with enzymes to dissolve it, but I'm guessing even in this case they'd still find legs and whatnot from the dead spider.

    I guess the big question at this point is exactly what species of spider were these two.

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    1. Re:Not necessarily by theinvisibleguy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I had a bunch of spider eggs in a jar when I was younger, after they hatched they kept getting smaller in number without leaving anything behind. You could definitely tell which spiders were eating the others since they were about twice their previous size.

    2. Re:Not necessarily by vux984 · · Score: 5, Funny

      They quoted a NASA official as saying that just because we can't see it doesn't mean it isn't in the box, we haven't opened the box to verify it.

      Schrödinger's spider?

    3. Re:Not necessarily by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Funny

      I guess the big question at this point is exactly what species of spider were these two.

      Especially, if it happened to be a non-cannibalistic species.

      That would suggest that outer space turns spiders into cannibals.

      Why haven't we seen this effect on humans yet?

      Maybe it takes a while for those wacky cosmic-cannibal-rays to accumulate, and humans have just not been up in outer space long enough?

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    4. Re:Not necessarily by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dammmit, you beat me to it. And with my nick, I should have got to it first. Or maybe not. It's uncertain.

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    5. Re:Not necessarily by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why haven't we seen this effect on humans yet?

      I was going to make a joke about how we had, and the Columbia disaster was actually a deliberate destruction so the public wouldn't realize NASA's cannibalism problem when only half the crew came back. But then I thought "Naw, too soon." But then I thought "Aw, what the hell."

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    6. Re:Not necessarily by digitig · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, I would certainly hope NASA isn't dumb enough to send poisonous spiders into space into small, confined quarters with a few humans. That could end poorly, to say the least.

      All spiders are venomous (I doubt the humans up there plan to eat the thing, so whether they're poisonous is irrelevant). The important thing is whether they're big and strong enough to inject the venom into a human.

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    7. Re:Not necessarily by Surt · · Score: 4, Funny

      Those are traditionally referred to as 'nightmares'.

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    8. Re:Not necessarily by catbertscousin · · Score: 2

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    9. Re:Not necessarily by catbertscousin · · Score: 4, Informative

      Reavers ain't men. Not any more.

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    10. Re:Not necessarily by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 4, Funny

      most spiders simply inject the prey with enzymes that liquefy its innards, then suck the resulting liquid lunch
      it's images like that that remind me why I'm happy to be on the top of the food chain

      Images like that remind me of my ex-wife.

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    11. Re:Not necessarily by Mr.+Beatdown · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah. That was too soon.

      I still remember driving back in to town after a week of camping and seeing all the flags at half staff, leaving a lurching feeling in the pit of my stomach. Had we been attacked? Had our president been assassinated? I asked the people I came across on the street to find out what tragedy had befallen our country, but no one knew. I saw a news stand and went to it. It was there I saw the first images of the exploding ball of flame, ending the lives of Americans who sought to extend the boundaries that has always limited men. It was a day I'll never forget.

      You insensitive clod.

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    12. Re:Not necessarily by Reziac · · Score: 3, Interesting

      We have a small tarantula here in the high desert that gets about half as big as a man's little finger, plus legs. One summer I kept one in a jar and fed it live grasshoppers. It must not have required its food to be all that liquid -- this spider would eat a grasshopper nearly as large as itself in 15 seconds flat. Munch-munch-munch-GONE, exoskeleton, innards, and all (except it sometimes didn't eat all the legs). It almost looked like a magic trick -- "how did you stuff that big grasshopper into that little spider??"

      BTW these tarantulas' vision is apparently good enough to tell when a human is approaching with lunch. If I just came up to look, it would ignore me. If I had a grasshopper in my hand, it would get excited and run round and round in its jar.

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    13. Re:Not necessarily by Chris+Burke · · Score: 5, Funny

      You're right, that was very insensitive of me. I'm sorry if I offended you. Now to smooth things over with the healing power of laughter, here are some cannibal astronaut jokes.

      Q: What do you call an astronaut that leaves the ship without a space suit?
      A: Frozen dinner.

      Q: Why was the astronaut afraid to go back in the shuttle when she lost her tool bag?
      A: She didn't want to get chewed out.

      Q: Why were the astronauts upset when NASA invented a red wine equivalent of Tang?
      A: Because everyone knows red wines don't go with white meat.

      Ah, that was cathartic. I feel much better. You?

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    14. Re:Not necessarily by digitig · · Score: 2, Funny

      In fact one doesn't have to worry about larger animals either

      [snip]

      one of the few things our army snipers have had to do

      Well, I for one would be careful around those army snipers. I'd sooner take on a spider any day.

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  21. No Ziggy Stardust jokes! by SoundGuyNoise · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't believe nobody's made a "Spiders From Mars" reference.

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  22. Why would a spider... by webreaper · · Score: 2

    ...make webs in space? There's nothing to catch. Or did they take a box of flies (or maybe ants, since the spiders' prey didn't need wings to hit the webs) to feed the 8-legged beasties?

  23. not missing by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's not really missing. It's just busy working on a collaboration with David Bowie.

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  24. Link to original, more detailed, story. by Khemisty · · Score: 5, Informative

    My god people, is slashdot actually linking to ABC action news? I mean come on, firstly the summary (of the summary) is woefully incomplete.. Even though the original link also belongs to ABC at least it doesnt have the word "action" attached to "news". I'm just waiting for ABC's next upgrade to SEXY, ACTION NEWS... a bit elitist? Maybe.. but at least the original link clarifies the story rather than leaving out information in order to make the story more "exciting".. From TFA: "NASA isn't sure where the spider could have gone." Doesn't mean they don't have an idea..

    From the original article: "Kirk Shireman, deputy shuttle program manager, says that while only one spider is visible, that doesn't mean the other is missing. 'We don't believe he has escaped the payload. I am sure we will find him spinning a web somewhere in the next few days."

    1. Re:Link to original, more detailed, story. by Thaelon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's because any news source that gets its revenue from advertising has an inherent conflict of interest.

      They make money by selling ads. In order to sell ads, you need large viewer base. In order to get a large viewer base, you have to have interesting (read: sensational) stories. Real news isn't always exciting and rarely sells ads.

      This is why I believe most news sources (in America anyway - most especially CNN & Fox) should be required to bear the warning label, "For entertainment purposes only" prominently visible at all times.

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  25. Re:Where oh where? by saider · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's why Heidi let the bag go yesterday. I know my wife runs out of the room screaming when she sees a spider.

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  26. Why?... by whisper_jeff · · Score: 4, Funny

    "I for one, welcome our new arachnid overlords."

    Why would you do that? Why would you put a classic reply in your summary of the article and rob some poster of a 5 Funny rating? You're just mean.

  27. Enough is Enough! by GogglesPisano · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have had it with these motherf***ing spiders on this motherf***ing space station!

    (Sorry, couldn't resist...)

  28. Dupe from 1973 by Yossarian45793 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The spider webs in space experiment was already tried in 1973 aboard Skylab.

  29. Did they check... by Clandestine_Blaze · · Score: 4, Funny

    Did they check the tool bag? Oh, wait...

  30. A few centuries from now... by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...an alien probe named S'pdr will encounter the USS Enterprise.

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  31. Re:Where oh where? by MindKata · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I would guess: outside the container!"

    Found it!

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  32. Dumb spiders by orateam · · Score: 2, Funny

    Stupid spiders, what do they expect to catch! Spiders are dumb.

  33. Re:It's simple! by click2005 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nah, its off filming the sequel to Snakes on a Plane... Spiders on the Shuttle

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  34. GPS by fan+of+lem · · Score: 2, Funny

    The missing spider had GPS, but was unfortunately outside* the service range.

    *above

  35. Re:Where oh where? by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Spiders on drugs is just as interesting. (Video) (Pictures)

    Think about that before your next Jolt Cola.

  36. moola by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 4, Funny

    A spider that had been sent to the International Space Station for a school science program

    And they say we don't spend enough on education.

  37. Re:Where oh where? by Shakrai · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Think about that before your next Jolt Cola.

    I like how the spider on THC did better than the one on caffeine. We should outlaw caffeine and legalize pot.... clearly the caffeine is more dangerous ;)

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  38. Re:Where oh where? by Jimmy+King · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because for every spider we send to space, that's one less left here on earth trying to eat us.

  39. Re:Where oh where? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Funny

    The only reason that THC is illegal and caffeine is legal is because Big Caffeine is so powerful. Fuckin' JFK killed in Dallas, same place Starbucks started. Makes you think, don't it?

    Don't bogart that thing, man. Pass it over here.

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  40. Actually, no missing spider at all. by djonce · · Score: 5, Informative

    Another case of news media sensationalizing what really happened. There are two spiders in the habitat (spider habaitat, not ISS human habitat). The goal is to see how two spiders will interact in micro-gravity.

    For about the first 24 hours after launch only one spider was seen. After that BioServe Space Technologies at CU Boulder (the group responsible for the habitat) located the other spider. It had simply been outside of the view of the camera.

  41. Re:Where oh where? by heritage727 · · Score: 5, Funny

    So we've got a spider with 8 arms, a bag of sophisticated tools, and a good source of mutagenic cosmic radiation. I don't like the look of this.

  42. Spiders in space... by Sergey23 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hypothetically let us say that the spider somehow ended up outside the space shuttle. The question is what would happen to a spider if we left it floating in space for a week or two? Considering that they're cold blooded and their circulatory system is rather basic and non-pressurized (since all the organs bathe in a pool of copper based blood) will the spider die? And, if so, from what?

    1. Re:Spiders in space... by greyhueofdoubt · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would imagine that it simultaneously suffer death from a number of factors-

      -asphyxiation. Spiders don't last long without oxygen; if they can drown easily, I'd imagine they need a constant supply of oxygen

      -cook in the sun

      -freeze solid in the shade

      -crushed by passing toolbag

      -overwhelming homesickness

      -b

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  43. Re:Where oh where? by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Arachnophobia is the most common phobia, certainly in the western world. It's certainly not innate. Babies show no fear of spider at all. We pick arachnophobia up from our parents and from those around us, and it's easy to see why. When people around you, and almost everyone you see in contemporary media displays arachnophobia, it's hard not to be arachnophobic. Hollywood's use of spiders, and spider like creatures, as stock horror objects is actually a self perpetuating.

    I would compare this to the slightly less common, and more substantiated, fear of wasps and bees. People will become very, very nervous around wasps and bees, jumping up from their seats, running away, or trying to kill the creature. But the reality is that these creatures will rarely sting unless you disturb them or their nest(at least in europe). Nevertheless fear of wasps is much more acceptable than fear of spiders, but only slightly more justifiable, and it's just as irrational.

    Some people are so arachnophobic that they will actually kill any spiders they see. It's a very ugly thing to see someone quite viciously slam down a shoe or newspaper on a spider as it tries to scurry to safety. There is no reason to it. At least people who stand on chairs aren't taking it out on the spider. Apparently a cure for a phobia is gentle exposure. A friend of mine went to a spider museum in Prague and apparently lost all apprehension around spider entirely. I'm not sure I'd recommend this for your wife though.

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  44. I just read about this... by denmarkw00t · · Score: 2, Informative

    From the more detailed article: "

    Kirk Shireman, deputy shuttle program manager, says that while only one spider is visible, that doesn't mean the other is missing. 'We don't believe he has escaped the payload. I am sure we will find him spinning a web somewhere in the next few days.'"

    This is why I don't trust any form of "Action" news.

  45. Re:Where oh where? by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 2, Informative

    Worry not, I'm sure NASA is already firing up their ion cannon to fight the beast. It masquerades by day as a mild-mannered Earth sensing satellite.

  46. Re:Where oh where? by drpimp · · Score: 3, Informative

    Starbucks was actually founded in Seattle.

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  47. Re:Where oh where? by atomicthumbs · · Score: 5, Funny

    STATUS CHECK 11/19/08 00:00 UTC: EARTH PRESENT
    STATUS CHECK 11/20/08 00:00 UTC: EARTH PRESENT
    STATUS CHECK 11/21/08 00:00 UTC: EARTH MISSING, PLEASE VERIFY
    STATUS CHECK 11/22/08 00:00 UTC: EARTH PRESENT
    STATUS CHECK 11/22/08 16:05 UTC: ION CANNON COORDINATES RECIEVED. FIRING
    STATUS CHECK 11/23/08 00:00 UTC: EARTH PRESENT

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  48. Cable TV Viewers Take Notice by Badmovies · · Score: 2, Funny

    This has "Sci Fi Channel Original" (Movie) written all over it.

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  49. Re:Where oh where? by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 2

    I admit, I LOLd.

  50. Re:Where oh where? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well I don't know I
    Heard it started
    Out
    Of a
    Small town just outside Dallas
    However I might be wrong.

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  51. Re:Where oh where? by x102output · · Score: 5, Informative

    "But the reality is that these creatures will rarely sting unless you disturb them or their nest(at least in europe)."


    No way. I grew up in Pennsylvania with a swimming pool in my backyard. You wouldn't believe how much insects a pool in that area attracts. Many, many times if a few friends were over to swim, and the wasps felt threatened of their water source (for their nests in our attic) then they would get very aggressive. They would even just randomly sting people lounging out on the deck. Bumble bee's are one thing, but wasps just don't even want you nearby (even if you were there first). Also, you preyed everytime you mowed the lawn that you wouldn't disturb an underground nest...

  52. Re:Where oh where? by El+Torico · · Score: 5, Funny

    Shuttle Flight: $500 million
    Spider habitat: $9
    Losing half of test subjects: Priceless

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  53. Re:Spiders are not cannibals by jadin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anecdote :

    When I lived out in rural farmland, our house had a spider living behind the toilet. He had a small web there and he didn't seem to bother us so we left him there. We named him Boris. We'd find other spiders in the house fairly often, and we would catch them alive and drop them on Boris' web. It was very interesting to watch the battles, since the foreign spider would instinctively(?) know that they were in danger being on someone else's web, and would freeze for long periods of time not moving a muscle. Eventually when they would try to leave, out would fly Boris from his crack in the wall and attack. After killing the other spiders he'd usually pull his prize into his hole in the wall. Fairly positive he ate them as well, but I can't say that for certain.

    Not sure where you got your information but they will definitely attack each other.

  54. Re:Where oh where? by blueZ3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Arachnophobia may not be innate (I think you could argue either way on this--my daughter cried when she saw a spider crawling along the rail of her crib--and as far as I know, that's the first time she ever saw one), but it's a reasonable response.

    Spiders are venomous. For an average person, identification of spiders at any distance isn't easy, so the "danger! move away" response is the safe one. And eliminating spiders in a child's bedroom, for instance, is pretty much a no-brainer.

    Here in California, one of the common spiders is the Black Widow. When I was a child, my father wound up in the hospital after being "bitten" by a Black Widow. Which again means that the "danger! move away" response makes sense.

    With bees and wasps, you've got people who know either first or second hand about the pain of a sting, so again, I don't think a moderate amount of fear is unreasonable, no matter that the danger of being stung is pretty low. For people like myself (where anaphylactic shock is a possibility) moving away from the vicinity of bees is not only reasonable, but wise.

    All that to say that I don't think some degree of concern about spiders, bees, and wasps is completely unreasonable--which is what a phobia implies.

    By the way, I used to scoop up spiders and carry them outside when I found them indoors. But since I've been married, I usually have to vacuum them up. Sheesh--lose track of one spider on the way to the front door and you'll never live it down :-)

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  55. Re:Where oh where? by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In Hawaii, only the tourists are scared of our big-as-your-palm cane spiders. Everyone else doesn't mind having them in the house because they eat all the other bugs.

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  56. Re:Where oh where? by Firethorn · · Score: 3, Insightful

    but I kill them because I don't want bugs in my house.

    And, as you note, you end up with MORE bugs in your house, because the spider isn't batting cleanup anymore.

    Unless it's a hazardous spider I generally leave it alone.

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  57. Re:Where oh where? by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So catch them and take them outside. It's not at all difficult.

    Perhaps you should work more on sealing your house to outsiders instead of killing the ones that wander in.

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  58. Obvious conclusion.... by Groo+Wanderer · · Score: 4, Funny

    People, remember, this is s rigorous scientific experiment based on literally billions of dollars worth of equipment.

    If you look at this scientifically, the obvious conclusion is that spiders in space have a 50% chance of spontaneously developing teleportation powers. This vital experiment should put to rest all the loonies who claim space can't do that to people, we have hard proof now.

    The more pressing question is why didn't NASA talk about the gecko heat vision experiments in the next chamber over?

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  59. Re:Where oh where? by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, JFK was killed in Seattle, and THEY want you to think it was Dallas. That is how powerful THEY truly are.

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  60. Explanation by rlp · · Score: 4, Funny

    The spider left after it found a robots.txt file.

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  61. Re:Where oh where? by illeism · · Score: 4, Funny
    It's a metagood thing you're metahere to metacall out the metathing in the metafight against meta

    meta

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  62. Re:Where oh where? by brokenhorse · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is a shamless plug to my photography site but I taken some hardocre photos of spiders, wasps and mantises over the years. If you have a fear of spiders and wasps, this might be the gentle exposure you need.

  63. Re:Where oh where? by SgtPepperKSU · · Score: 2, Funny

    H ow c a n the people k n ow s o little about ho w S t arbucks j oined the CIA, the Ma f ia, and the K nights Templar to take out JFK?

    But JFK shot first...

  64. Re:Where oh where? by PitaBred · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because it gets kids interested in science and space. There's little "new" stuff to learn from it, but there is a HUGE future benefit to getting kids directly involved in science projects like that. They learn the scientific process, how to think about things logically, and so on, and are attracted to it because it is such a big thing. It's not some silly chemistry lab experiment, they actually get to talk to astronauts and stuff.

  65. Re:Where oh where? by rale,+the · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How about an asian giant hornet? I think any fear of them would be justified.

  66. Re:Where oh where? by PitaBred · · Score: 3, Informative

    Those long-range wasp cans are frickin' awesome, as are the wasp traps. You put them out in the spring, and they never really get a foothold.

  67. Re:Where oh where? by McFortner · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's good to see NASA testing out the major airlines' new inflight meals....

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  68. Re:Where oh where? by MaxwellEdison · · Score: 4, Funny

    That would certainly make me nervous, however the camel spiders I met during my time in 'the Iraq' nearly made me scream. I know they're not spiders per se...but they're pretty much what you would get if a spider had sex with a nightmare.

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  69. Newsflash by JonDorian88 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Last piece of evidence was a spun note left in the box: "Jokes on you b*tches!" Yours truly -Charlotte

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  70. Re:Where oh where? by supernova_hq · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does your wife know the chances of a spider surviving a trip through the vacuum cleaner? Unless you have a fine grained impeller on the sucker, that things gonna walk right back out again. Just like running it down the sink.

  71. Aha! by Skjellifetti · · Score: 2, Funny

    So that's why Frodo survived.

  72. Re:Where oh where? by DarthJohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Actually youve probably eaten more spiders than spiders have eaten you.

    so far

  73. Try living in Australia by caitsith01 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Some people are so arachnophobic that they will actually kill any spiders they see. It's a very ugly thing to see someone quite viciously slam down a shoe or newspaper on a spider as it tries to scurry to safety. There is no reason to it. At least people who stand on chairs aren't taking it out on the spider. Apparently a cure for a phobia is gentle exposure. A friend of mine went to a spider museum in Prague and apparently lost all apprehension around spider entirely. I'm not sure I'd recommend this for your wife though.

    Actually, in Australia at least there are plenty of good reasons to be extremely arachnophobic. We have numerous potentially deadly spiders, many of which can be found in and around ordinary homes, and some of which display aggressive behaviour. Amongst the catalogue are those that just really, really hurt, those that kill you quite rapidly, and those that induce nice things like necrotised (sp?) flesh.

    Although the rate of deaths from bites is very low, I would suggest that is because most people in Australia are smart enough to know that some spiders are quite dangerous and to either kill them, remove them, or stay the hell away from them. Personally I remove things like huntsmen spiders (which can bite, but won't kill you), and kill things that look like redbacks and other dangerous breeds.

    And I disagree about the fear not being innate - my personal experience is that there is something hard-coded into me which induces an irrational burst of fear when I see a spider. I don't get the same thing from animals I know to be at least as dangerous, such as snakes (which are also very poisonous and very dangerous in Australia before you start on that topic).

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  74. Re:Where oh where? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Interesting

    That would certainly make me nervous, however the camel spiders I met during my time in 'the Iraq' nearly made me scream. I know they're not spiders per se...but they're pretty much what you would get if a spider had sex with a nightmare.

    Holy fucking shit.

    And here I thought the reason I never joined the military was my fear of being shot or exploded. Little did I know there was a much better reason my subconscious kept me far away!

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