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Nintendo To Start Publishing Ebooks On the DS

Miracle Jones writes "Nintendo is going to start publishing ebooks for the DS in conjunction with HarperCollins. The first cartridge will go on sale December 26th in the UK, will cost around 30 dollars, and will feature 100 classic books — stuff like Charles Dickens and Jane Austen."

216 comments

  1. DRM? by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dickens and Austen, eh? So what sort of DRM is Nintendo going to use to "protect" this "IP"?

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    1. Re:DRM? by Justin+Hopewell · · Score: 4, Funny

      A 48 character "Friend Code".

    2. Re:DRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      who modded this insightful it's a joke the copyrights on those works are expired

    3. Re:DRM? by spazdor · · Score: 2, Informative

      Um, basically none. Have you ever tried using pirated content on a DS?

      It's easier than easy.

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    4. Re:DRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      No need. They'll just get Fagin to "send the boys round" if they catch you doing anything untoward.

    5. Re:DRM? by NuclearError · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wouldn't the fact that the material is by Dickens and Austen be enough to stop copying? I, for one, wouldn't pirate it if you paid me.

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    6. Re:DRM? by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      Their IP in this case is the reader software itself. If somebody knocked that off (God knows why they would, look at the awful 6-line-per-screen font) then they'd be in bother. As for "what sort of DRM" I believe the DS cartridge had some sort of DRM baked into it by design, but it was trivially cracked a long time ago, and essentially doesn't exist as far as the end user is concerned these days.

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    7. Re:DRM? by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Interesting
      Wouldn't the fact that the material is by Dickens and Austen be enough to stop copying? I, for one, wouldn't pirate it if you paid me.

      As a matter of fact Dickens faced enormous problems with piracy at the time. It seems that certain rogue countries in that pre-Berne Convention era saw fit to disregard Dickens's copyrights and allowed pirate printers to profit by his works without paying the author so much as a penny.

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    8. Re:DRM? by kanweg · · Score: 4, Funny

      But it gave him new inspiration to think up stories about Scrooge. He didn't pay for the inspiration that the pirates gave him, so they called it even.

      Bert

    9. Re:DRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's better than 99% of the shit that's written today.

    10. Re:DRM? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Nobody will be able to stay awake long enough to figure out how to pirate it...

    11. Re:DRM? by geoffrobinson · · Score: 3, Funny

      Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right

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    12. Re:DRM? by interploy · · Score: 1

      I wholeheartedly agree. Who is the demographic for this? Well-intentioned-but-tragically-misguided mothers? For a kid, the only thing worse than reading Dickens is trying to read it on a 3-inch screen.

    13. Re:DRM? by Teilo · · Score: 2, Funny

      To whomever modded this "Offtopic": What the Dickens is the matter with you?

      Yet another illiterate modder who can't even be bothered to use google.

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    14. Re:DRM? by theaveng · · Score: 1

      Realistically, probably no DRM. It uses a cartridge and that alone makes it difficult to copy.

      I wonder how "readable" a book is on the DS? I may have to buy a DS and this cart for my niece, assuming she can actually read it.

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    15. Re:DRM? by TheSambassador · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't know, I tried to jam a CD with a bunch of PS3 roms on it into my DS and the damn thing broke!

    16. Re:DRM? by theaveng · · Score: 1

      >>>certain rogue countries

      United States..... they steal the works of good British men and don't have the decency to protect his copyright..... those damn colonials!

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    17. Re:DRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most of these pirates were in the US. Now, if you're a proud, patriotic American, reading Charles Dickens' Martin Chuzzlewit may come as something of a shock. The section of that book which is set in the United States reads something like recent years' news stories about Zimbabwe, but with a lot more crooks and hypocrites on the loose.

    18. Re:DRM? by Omestes · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dickens maybe, Austen though? Turn on your TV, change channel to Lifetime, watch it for whatever the equivalent of 50000000 pages is, replacing cars with chariots, and everything else with tea, poof instant Jane Austen.

      I personally can't stand either of them. Dickens basically wrote the same book 40 times, while Austen is about as readable as Danielle Steele, but gets credit for being a woman writing books when women didn't right books, which is quite an accomplishment even if said books are about banal people being banal (with tea).

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    19. Re:DRM? by theaveng · · Score: 1

      You've been playing too much Space Channel 5.

      "chu"

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    20. Re:DRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah! Charles Dickens and Jane Austen wrote such shitty books! I can't believe they are trying to foist this low-brow garbage unto the gaming community! No one is going to buy it!

      Thanks but no thanks, Nintendo. I'll stick with Final Fantasy DS. Now theres a REAL storyline!

    21. Re:DRM? by Moryath · · Score: 1

      Actually it's more interesting than that. The other thing Dickens did was ship his brother off to America in order to cut him out of the family inheritance. Charles Dickens WAS the template for Scrooge.

    22. Re:DRM? by Fujisawa+Sensei · · Score: 1

      It's better than 99% of the shit that's written today.

      And even so, you still read /.

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    23. Re:DRM? by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      while Austen is about as readable as Danielle Steele, but gets credit for being a woman writing books when women didn't right books, which is quite an accomplishment even if said books are about banal people being banal (with tea).

      As someone who had to read Austen for A-levels, your comment is spot on.

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    24. Re:DRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A quick search online turned up an article explaining what was discovered long after the parties were all dead.

      http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9801EED7123DE433A2575AC1A9649C94649ED7CF

      According to the article, the younger brother had been a favorite, until he abandoned his wife and came to America to live in sin with another woman. Everyone assumed they were married, but in truth they were not, because he was still married to his first wife. The older brother gave up all contact with him out of disgust but never defended himself against the accusations that he had mistreated his brother by airing his family's dirty laundry in public. Charles kept supporting his sister in law for the rest of his life. Doesn't exactly sound like Scrooge now does it?

      and what inheritance? from what I gather all the money was Charles.

    25. Re:DRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's interesting how much of what passes for taste and refinement in the US is really just the greatest hits of Victorian pop-culture - it's the only way I can explain our continuing national obsession with Dickens. I loved him when I was a kid, but I grew out of it - and so should the entire country.

    26. Re:DRM? by corky842 · · Score: 1

      Get her an R4 (can be found for around $15) and load it up with stuff from Project Gutenberg. The R4 kernel comes with moonshell preinstalled (it's a media player type thing) which includes a text viewer. Plus, you can get a bunch of great homebrew games and such (like Nethack!).

    27. Re:DRM? by Omestes · · Score: 1

      American's love the "little man vs. big man" story, which is about all Dickens coughed up. We like rich people to be big evil robber barons, so we can hate their inhumanity.

      While we're poor we read Dickens, when we get rich we read Ayn Rand.

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    28. Re:DRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ugh, my obsession with Rand didn't survive a single re-reading of Atlas Shrugged. It's amazing what a few years of living in the real world will do to books that your 20 year old self thinks are deep and meaningful and true. At least Dickens was entertaining while delivering his sermons.

    29. Re:DRM? by Serious+Callers+Only · · Score: 1

      American's love the "little man vs. big man" story, which is about all Dickens coughed up.

      If this is all you see in Dickens please give up reading and go back to TV.

      PS Look up grocers' apostrophes

    30. Re:DRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No clue about Austen, but isn't Dickens in public domain?

    31. Re:DRM? by darthdavid · · Score: 1

      Have to cancel, clicked overrated by mistake...

    32. Re:DRM? by rubah · · Score: 1

      I used to think the same, but my eyes were opened when I read Pride and Prejudice this summer. Maybe that moment was when I became a woman.

    33. Re:DRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Did you mean carriages? If Austen's books had chariots they might even be marginally interesting...

    34. Re:DRM? by giantweevil · · Score: 1

      Wait, I may see your problem.

      What slot were you putting it in? I think you have to use the GBA one.

      Also, this gives me yet another reason to get a DS.

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    35. Re:DRM? by Omestes · · Score: 1

      Actually Dickens wasn't a bad author, if you can stand the writing of the period. I can't. I don't know what it is about it, it isn't the verbosity since half of my favorite authors are Russian, and most of the other half are German, whom suffer from heightened verbosity.

      You have to admit, though, that his pet themes were the nobility of the working class, and the brutality of the industrial revolution. Most of them had some soulless middle-manager type, and orphans dying in the street.

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    36. Re:DRM? by Omestes · · Score: 1

      Please be kidding.

      I took this to be that you once were a man, btw, and now sit around with boring women, talking about boring things, while lusting (politely) over men named Colonel Rumplebum, and Mr. Asswit and waiting for the carriage.

      Which is amusing.

      If you are a female, and meant this seriously; please don't do that to yourself, or the rest of us.

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    37. Re:DRM? by Omestes · · Score: 2, Funny

      You missed Jane Austen's BEN HUR?

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    38. Re:DRM? by rubah · · Score: 1

      But it isn't boring!

      And yes, I also like to crochet and scrapbook.

    39. Re:DRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tale of two cities deserves to be hated for its verbosity. But mostly I'd call his writing ornate rather than overly verbose.

    40. Re:DRM? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but gets credit for being a woman writing books when women didn't * right * books, which is quite an accomplishment even if said books are about banal people being banal (with tea)

      Irony aplenty.

  2. finally! by CheshireFerk-o · · Score: 0

    ds homebrew has always stated to support ebook but i have yet to get one readable. i hope this is well recieved by the public.

    1. Re:finally! by megamerican · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, I can see it now:

      Call me Ishmael

      *Turn Page*

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    2. Re:finally! by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh, so it's like tomshardware.

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    3. Re:finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's toms*page*hardware to you, mister!

  3. First ebooks by Smelly+Jeffrey · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The first ebooks should be should be of old Nintendo Power magazines!

    1. Re:First ebooks by Beyond+Opinion · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree. I might even buy it if they did that.

    2. Re:First ebooks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nintendo Fun Club News? anyone? still have my ratty issue #2 which announced the upcoming game Legend of Zelda. They knew it was going to change everything before it was released.

    3. Re:First ebooks by hansamurai · · Score: 1

      Excellent idea. I recently got my first house and my parents finally found a reason to dump all the old magazines I had been collecting over the years on me. Hundreds of issues of Nintendo Power, EGM, Game Players, Incite, Ultra Game Players, Game Pro, Computer Gaming World, PC Gamer, strategy guides (from SMB3 to Chrono Trigger), etc.

      They're awesome to flip through but they take up so much space. I'd really like to keep them but shove them away somewhere but still have easy access to them. Ugh...

    4. Re:First ebooks by colmore · · Score: 1

      Are you sure it wasn't Zelda 2? The first issue of NP was a preview of Mario 2, which came out after the original Legend of Zelda (which was released in Japan for a system that preceded the NES).

      I could check all this, but I'm at work and researching old issues of Nintendo Power could easily destroy my day.

      Oh and remember how they previewed Final Fantasy every issue for like six months before it came out? I have never anticipated a game so much since.

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    5. Re:First ebooks by Ishin · · Score: 2, Informative

      He is speaking of the Nintendo Fun Club Newsletter (a free precursor to the subscription magazine Nintendo Power) which was a very small (40-50 pages if I remember correctly)magazine that featured fan letters, short previews for upcoming games, and a few advertisements for varied nintendo games.

    6. Re:First ebooks by theaveng · · Score: 1

      My old copies of Atari Age are scanned online for quick and easy perusal; no need to keep the old yellow copies. Hasn't somebody somewhere done the same for Nintendo Power, et cetera?

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    7. Re:First ebooks by Stolovaya · · Score: 1

      It was probably Zelda 2. I know the first NP had Mario 2 and maps for the second quest in Zelda.

    8. Re:First ebooks by NotWorkSafe · · Score: 1

      Nintendo Fun Club News was the prelude to Nintendo Power. It was a cheaper, more newsletter style mag.

      Example of the issue in questions: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robboudon/1243676069/

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    9. Re:First ebooks by Norwell+Bob · · Score: 1

      No, the original Fun Club Newsletter only had two or three issues and was really just a folded 11x17" sheet, so basically four 8x11" pages. In three colors... black, blue, faded red.

      Still have mine somewhere. :^)

  4. $30? Seriously? by mweather · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So I get to pay $30 for books I can legally download for free?

    1. Re:$30? Seriously? by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No actually you pay $19.95 for a R4 and then $11.95 for a 2gig miniSD card then download everything you can from project Gutenberg.

      If you own a DS, you NEED to own a R4.

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    2. Re:$30? Seriously? by filesiteguy · · Score: 1

      Is there a good ebook reader software already available for the DS? Then one could load it on the R4 with whatever. I googled and didnt' find anything.

    3. Re:$30? Seriously? by an+unsound+mind · · Score: 1

      R4 is outdated and not supported. You want the AK2 now.

    4. Re:$30? Seriously? by OrangeTide · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You could write one. I would have written one if I knew there was any demand for ebooks on DS. Didn't realize that gamers were into Dickens.

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    5. Re:$30? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AK2 is outdated. You want the CycloDS now.

    6. Re:$30? Seriously? by rob1980 · · Score: 1

      Didn't realize that gamers were into Dickens.

      Why? "Gamers" encompasses more than frat boys playing Call of Duty 4.

    7. Re:$30? Seriously? by hansamurai · · Score: 1

      Well, I own an R4 but it's not supported anymore. No more official firmware updates and unofficial ones are sketchy... A sibling suggested the AK2 which I'm not familiar with, but I'm sure the best replacement will rise to the top.

    8. Re:$30? Seriously? by an+unsound+mind · · Score: 1

      AK2 is still supported, and where Cyclo is better, it also costs four times as much.

    9. Re:$30? Seriously? by Ravon+Rodriguez · · Score: 1

      I use DSReader. It only reads text files, but converting most ebooks to txt is trivial.

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    10. Re:$30? Seriously? by d'fim · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think the intended market is guilty parents trying to pretend that their kids will get some educational benefit from the $200 Pokemon game system they bought for their kids last Christmas.

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    11. Re:$30? Seriously? by Jorophose · · Score: 1

      Isn't the R4 out of production now?

      I'd buy a DSTT or Acekard2.1

      And don't these things some how suck up more battery life? (but how much are we talking, and what about things like the M3 Perfect?)

    12. Re:$30? Seriously? by colmore · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but it's still a lot of adults who have "being entertained by toys" as a top hobby.

      *ducks and runs*

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    13. Re:$30? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think $30 dollars is expensive for 1000 books? Yes they are in the creative commons and you can download them for free, but you could also go buy them in paperback for 5-10 dollars each brand new. What you are paying for is printing and production costs. The same could be said for the Nintendo DS cart. I doubt that putting the 1000 books on the cart cost them anything but development of the ebook reader for the DS probably cost something as well as the production of the actual cart. I'm sure they would like to make a little money off of their effort as well. There are a lot of people I know that don't have an R4 or m3 simply for their DS that would probably like something like this.

      I just find it funny that people complain about something for electronics being not free but if it's a physical thing they have no problem spending money on it. Personally if I was going to spend money on a book I would buy the paper back, but really you don't have to be a jerk bout it.

    14. Re:$30? Seriously? by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Not supported anymore means nothing. I have yet to find a rom that does not work in it. Also the homebres DS comic reader works incredibly well.

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    15. Re:$30? Seriously? by tommituura · · Score: 1

      Isn't the R4 out of production now?

      I'd buy a DSTT or Acekard2.1

      And don't these things some how suck up more battery life? (but how much are we talking, and what about things like the M3 Perfect?)

      As an AK2.1 owner, I have found it somewhat does. OTOH, I also found that remembering to set the light into dimmer in AK menu helps quite a bit. I felt little dumbfounded when I realized AK menu always defaults the background light into max regardless of what was set up in the DS main menu. I haven't even searched, really, for a way to set it to default at other settings. Anyway, since I always remember to set the light to lowest or second-to-lowest setting, I have not had any real problems with battery life. Of course, I'm not that mobile a person so YMMV. I also live in Finland and it's dark here now in winter so it's easy for me to use low light levels. Come summer and sunshine, and this might be a problem.

    16. Re:$30? Seriously? by tepples · · Score: 1

      Is there a good ebook reader software already available for the DS?

      Between rounds of Lockjaw, you can read plain-ASCII or HTML ebooks in DSOrganize 3.1129, or you can read XHTML ebooks in DSLibris.

    17. Re:$30? Seriously? by Rogerborg · · Score: 1

      The content is free; you're paying for the convenience.

      Really, how little do you value your time?

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    18. Re:$30? Seriously? by Jorophose · · Score: 1

      Well, I play with the lowest brightness all the time, and haven't really run into any problems... So I don't think that will be a big issue.

      Any idea is the battery life is still noticeably hit though? I realise the DS has a battery life of like 15-20 hours for DS mode so it won't be easy to measure right now, but I'm hoping someone could chime in. I thought about using it instead of carrying around all the carts, but if I lose something like an hour on every charge, or even half of one, I'd rather just use it for... experimental things (emulators and browsers, game demoing, etc.) or for videos.

      At ~10$ on DealExtreme.com it looks like a great buy. (it also sorts alphabetically doesn't it?)

    19. Re:$30? Seriously? by HyoImowano · · Score: 0

      No, you NEED a Cyclo DS Evolution. SDHC support, text reader even while running homebrew/games, battery saver mode, still supported.

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    20. Re:$30? Seriously? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      Why? "Gamers" encompasses more than frat boys playing Call of Duty 4.

      I think you missed my point and decided to rant instead. Do "gamers" encompass people who read Dickens in any significant way?

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    21. Re:$30? Seriously? by theaveng · · Score: 1

      Entertainment is entertainment..... it doesn't matter if it's a video game, tv show, or newspaper serial (what Dickens published). No format is superior to any other.

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    22. Re:$30? Seriously? by Haoie · · Score: 1

      Exactly: Most of these classic books were in the public domain years, if not decades ago.

      Still, I guess they can charge what they want.

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    23. Re:$30? Seriously? by Shikaku · · Score: 1

      CycloDS has save states. The RAM required to do this drives the price up.

    24. Re:$30? Seriously? by DeadDecoy · · Score: 1

      Hmm what is an R4? (for the uninitiated among us)

    25. Re:$30? Seriously? by wakingrufus · · Score: 1

      the people who made the R4 no longer support it. I recommend the CycloDS. it automatically patches .nds roms as well.

    26. Re:$30? Seriously? by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      I think the intended market is guilty parents trying to pretend that their kids will get some educational benefit from the $200 Pokemon game system they bought for their kids last Christmas.

      My kids are hooked on "My (French|Spanish|Japanese) Coach". I think that counts.

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    27. Re:$30? Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or check the classics section of your local bookstore, you can probably get a new copy of both for a combined price under $20.

    28. Re:$30? Seriously? by KDR_11k · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Are "gamers" the only people who own a DS?

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    29. Re:$30? Seriously? by Sparton · · Score: 1

      If you own a DS, you NEED to own a R4.

      Unless, of course, your primary or sole reason for having a DS is to play games and you don't mind supporting the people who make them. Which, if you take away the people who only have an R4 to pirate games and have them for free, should be most of the people who bought DS's anyways.

      The DS hasn't been advertised anywhere outside of Japan as actually doing anything other than playing games; with the DSi coming out soonish in Japan and other parts of the world, that may change, but in the mean time, most of the world only sees it as a handheld gaming console, and nothing else.

      The DS has an interesting method of input, I'll give you that. I personally don't care if you use your DS with an R4 to do different things like make it into an MP3 player, read books, surf the internet, or whatever. But most people who have a DS don't need an R4, because that's not what they want to do with it.

    30. Re:$30? Seriously? by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 1

      You missed his point, which is that being a gamer in no way precludes reading Dickens (which is what you unjustly implied).

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    31. Re:$30? Seriously? by indiechild · · Score: 1

      The best one I found was DSLibris. I haven't touched it in over a year since I bought my iPhone, but it was a rather good app. DSLibris only supports XHTML format, but that's pretty much the norm.

    32. Re:$30? Seriously? by pcgabe · · Score: 1

      Don't assume the only purpose of an R4 is to pirate games.

      I originally bought a DS to use as a Japanese dictionary (the DS + Kanji Sonomama Rakubiki Jiten was still MUCH cheaper than replacing my $300 Canon Wordtank that broke). After having it around for a while, I began to realize the utility of such a device, and being a computer nerd that likes to tinker, picked up an M3.

      BAM, just like that, not only did I have a great dictionary, I had an e-book reader, an mp3 player, and a way to run homebrew apps, and I didn't have any more things to carry around. No longer was I limited to the meager 128 megs of song space on my phone, now I had 2 gigs of space (not that I even had 2 gigs of mp3s, but the potential was there). This made those long drives much more enjoyable (pardon me for preferring songs in English). Then I started reading e-books on it, and was hooked. Stuck in the dentist's waiting room? E-book. Stuck at the university waiting for your girlfriend and every book in the library is in Japanese? Well, you just so happened to bring a library of English books with you. Stuck in traffic for a few hours? Well, go back to listening to mp3s; you can't read e-books while driving, that would be dumb.

      In short, there are a LOT of handy things you can do with an M3/R4/Cyclo _BESIDES_ illegally pirate games. (Of course, this is coming from a non-gamer who can afford to purchase the few games I do play; your mileage may vary)

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    33. Re:$30? Seriously? by Sparton · · Score: 1

      You didn't read my last paragraph.

      I have nothing against doing interesting, "unlicensed" stuff with the DS. My only point is that the GP said:

      If you own a DS, you NEED to own a R4.

      and the majority of people with DSs don't need one, because they a) don't (or shouldn't) pirate, or b) don't do any of the other cool stuff you could do with an R4.

    34. Re:$30? Seriously? by Zerth · · Score: 1

      The AceKard 2 works well, although the case is somewhat flimsy, but unless your microsd spring fails, you don't really need to take it out.

    35. Re:$30? Seriously? by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      So does the Supercard DS One. Far cheaper too.

    36. Re:$30? Seriously? by Simulant · · Score: 1

      Moonshell, which most M3/R4 cards come with, has a perfectly reasonable .txt reader built in. So does homebrew DSOrganize.

      It's not the best hardware to read on but better than an old Palm Pilot on which I've read many books. Pretty much all the all the public domain/classic stuff is easily available in txt format (www.gutenberg.org) and most everything else (that is primarily txt) is easily convertable.

      Forget .pdfs and reference material in general. Most PDFs are formatted for letter size displays and the current state/speed of e-books reader interfaces make them nearly impossible to use for reference. I

    37. Re:$30? Seriously? by xtracto · · Score: 1

      you could start by contributing "simple text loading" to dsLibris

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    38. Re:$30? Seriously? by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      and the majority of people with DSs don't need one, because they a) don't (or shouldn't) pirate, or b) don't do any of the other cool stuff you could do with an R4.

      *grins*

      And the majority of folks who didn't have electrical power didn't:
      a) stay up late at night
      b) keep very many perishable foodstuffs
      c) wash their clothes very often

    39. Re:$30? Seriously? by mweather · · Score: 1

      The average gamer is over the age of 30.

  5. Those are two things that go together naturally... by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    ... Nintendo and literacy. What's next, Smith & Wesson diet supplements?

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  6. about time, but... by jaymz2k4 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'd prefer a PDF reader for homebrew. ComicBookDS is quite a cool little application that will let you read CBR files, you'll need to convert them first but its essentially just scaling & rar'ing them in a particular way.

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    1. Re:about time, but... by hansamurai · · Score: 1

      I've used that extensively and really liked it. I never really thought that reading a book on the DS would be worth it though, but maybe this from Nintendo will change my mind.

  7. Worst Christmas Present Ever.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Eh, little Bobby has one of those darn new fangled nintenders? And there's books for it? I'll buy him that!"

  8. In other news by Tragedy4u · · Score: 1

    Average population's vision deteriates due to reading smaller text on smaller electronic screens.

    1. Re:In other news by Bozzio · · Score: 1

      Yay, I have 20/20 vision again!

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    2. Re:In other news by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      So it's a ploy to sell more copies of Vision Training?

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    3. Re:In other news by vmlemon · · Score: 1

      Hmm, Nintendo do claim that the Vision Training game isn't intended to improve vision, or something like that. If I remember correctly. (Although I haven't seen the advert for a while).

  9. I'm studying - I swear! by JCSoRocks · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This sounds like the ultimate excuse for playing your DS during class / at home when you're supposed to be doing homework. Now there just needs to be an alt-tab equivalent so you can flip over to the ebook and pause playing tetris long enough to convince them that you're reading.

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    1. Re:I'm studying - I swear! by tepples · · Score: 1

      Now there just needs to be an alt-tab equivalent so you can flip over to the ebook and pause playing tetris long enough to convince them that you're reading.

      Or you can try to build an e-book reader into the pause screen of Lockjaw.

  10. Selection by gehrehmee · · Score: 5, Funny

    I know I was just clamoring to get my my hands on the Jane Austin books when I was a kid. If only there was a way to get it digitally, and in a form where I could read it while making people think I was playing video games! Oh, that would have been too much to ask.

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    1. Re:Selection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's fun to read a post by Lisa Simpson, is Bart really as obnoxious as he seems on TV?

  11. Ah My Eyes! by necro81 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The DS has a decent screen, but I think I (and most everyone else) would start getting a headache in about five minutes if they tried to read lots of text on it. After five weeks, I'd be lucky to see anything at all!

    1. Re: Ah My Eyes! by ODiV · · Score: 1

      Yeah, atually trying it out would be too hard. Let's just guess at the results.

    2. Re:Ah My Eyes! by rsmith-mac · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was thinking the same thing. For those unfamiliar with the specs, the DS has 2 256x192 pixel (62mmx 46mm) screens, giving it a dot pitch of .24mm. In terms of resolution this puts it above most 320x240 PocketPCs, but well below newer devices such as an iPhone/iPod Touch at 320x480. The bigger issue is that a .24mm dot pitch is extremely coarse for a mobile device (.24 would be around that of a desktop monitor) - compared again to the iPhone at .16 or so, it doesn't give much room for font anti-aliasing.

      You won't quite go blind like the OP is exaggerating about, but as a DS owner I can't say I find reading text particularly comfortable on the device. I'll take an iPhone, a Kindle, a PSP, etc any day of the week over a DS.

    3. Re:Ah My Eyes! by Ravon+Rodriguez · · Score: 1

      It's not that bad; with the right software you can adjust the font. I rarely read books that aren't on my DS anymore. It's more convenient to download and upload to the DS than go to the bookstore.

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    4. Re: Ah My Eyes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, let's spend $30 to get freely available material just to prove what common sense already tells us. In fact, let's apply for a government grant. I mean, there's no way past experience would offer us any indication as to whether this would be something we would actually want to purchase or not.

    5. Re:Ah My Eyes! by prelelat · · Score: 1

      Are there no RPG's that have a lot of text for he DS?

    6. Re:Ah My Eyes! by orielbean · · Score: 1

      Nope, I use it for 7-10 hour plane flights and it reads fine. I use DSReader for top-bottom reading, and when my eyes or hands get tired, switch to the Readmore app to read it like a book. You can change the font, font size, the background/text color, etc until its comfortable to read. I haven't found any homebrew that offers an auto-scroller, but otherwise this is the best handheld reader that I've used.

    7. Re:Ah My Eyes! by orielbean · · Score: 1

      Someone actually recreated the Lone Wolf paperback RPG as homebrew. It's perfect for this format.

    8. Re:Ah My Eyes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Insightfull?

      I have been using my old Fat Ds as an e-book for more than a year now. No headache, no blindness. It is actually quite good for this. Lcd screens are not that hard on the eyes.

    9. Re:Ah My Eyes! by DanTheManMS · · Score: 1

      Through the use of DSReader and some tinkering around with the font settings until I found one I liked (white text on black background, dark strength subpixel anti-aliasing, size 10 Arial), I was able to comfortably read an entire novel totaling ~200,000 words. Not as good as an actual book of course, but it wasn't nearly as bad as one might imagine.

      There are also a couple of homebrew ebook readers that let you turn the DS on its side and read that way. Personally I would find that a bit distracting, but the option is out there for those who are interested.

    10. Re:Ah My Eyes! by euri.ca · · Score: 1

      I think that this is basically something no-one wants, BUT that parents (and especially grandparents) would love to be able to give.

      Step 1: Little Johnny loves his gameboy, I want him to read
      Step 2: Give him 600 page public domain books from 2 centuries ago
      Step 3: Book learning!

    11. Re:Ah My Eyes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry - they're not trying to squeeze much text on it (if the graphic in the article is correct). Apparently, you change pages with the stylus, which will get annoying at 20 words per screen.

      Additional tidbits: The software also offers an electronic bookmark so you can pick up right where you left off, as well as the option of adjusting text sizes to further enhance the reading experience. You can also download up to ten additional novels using Nintendo's Wi-Fi Connection service and store them on your DS. (via)

    12. Re: Ah My Eyes! by slapout · · Score: 1

      "Let's just guess at the results."

      Welcome to the internet, my friend.

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    13. Re:Ah My Eyes! by pcgabe · · Score: 1

      I've read a number of complete books on the DS without any problems. It was quite convenient, since I always had it with me anyway (DS + Kanji Sonomama Rakubiki Jiten cartridge = *MUCH* easier shopping in Japan).

      Now that I think about it, I might have actually spent more time reading books with the DS than I ever did playing games.

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    14. Re:Ah My Eyes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having read for hours on end via DSReader (http://gbatemp.net/index.php?download=797) on an R4, I'd have to disagree with your assessment. While the font is mildly pixelated even with proper anti-aliasing, setting it to white-on-black and a moderately large font makes for a reading experience that is no harder on the eyes than your typical computer monitor.

    15. Re:Ah My Eyes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you believe this guy, antialiasing is bad.

    16. Re:Ah My Eyes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      agreed. That is one thing I don't like about all these fancy ebook readers and computers. sure I can download TONS of free books (some quite good too) for a ebook reader, kindle, laptop, tablet PC, etc... but the interface sucks. I work on computers and love computers, but screens are a bad choice for reading tons of text.

      Books and paper, IMHO are THE interface. Easy to read, you can relax with them. Don't have to worry about batteries, or heat or the hum of a fan. Portable, easy to use. Can display, text, color, pictures, etc.

      Also don't have to worry about the format becoming incompatible in 10-15 years. I have books that I got for cheap that are 50 or 100 years old. Do you think that specially encrypted digitally signed ebook you have will work 50 years from now?

      I can also sale books. Goto amazon, punch in the ISBN, set a price and wait till someone buys it. Easy as pie. Can I re-sale the digital ebook once I'm done with it to reclaim some of my money?

      As a "professional computer guy", this is one thing I'm going to have to break rank on. Books aren't good on computers or digital devices. Not yet anyways. People always look at me weird "but you work with computers 8 hours a day, I thought you of all people would be pushing ebooks. Computers are the future!"

      fuck that. give me a nice hard cover book any day. Soft cover if I'm traveling.

    17. Re:Ah My Eyes! by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      That is AWESOME. I haven't seen those books in almost 20 years!

    18. Re:Ah My Eyes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this insightful?

      I have been using my old fat DS as an ebook reader for a year now. No headaches, no straining of the eyes. LCD screens, particularly at lower brightness are really easy on the eyes. How else could we spend that much time in front of computers?

      Now, if it were on the original Gameboy, I'd agree with you.

  12. Re:Those are two things that go together naturally by Speare · · Score: 1

    Granny Smith Wesson Oil Recipes

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  13. The 26th is days too late by georgeha · · Score: 1, Funny

    to buy a most hated Christmas Present. Can you imagine a kid getting this, "Yay, a new DS game" "Boo, it's just books."

    1. Re:The 26th is days too late by Justin+Hopewell · · Score: 1

      I imagine this is Nintendo reaching out to the adult/casual demographic, but I'd be pretty disappointed whether it was my eighth Christmas or this year's.

  14. all they need is some pretty artwork by tuffy · · Score: 5, Funny

    and it'll be like a DS RPG, but with better stories and fewer boss battles.

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    1. Re:all they need is some pretty artwork by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aww come on this is funny :) mod it up

    2. Re:all they need is some pretty artwork by rabiddeity · · Score: 2, Funny

      and it'll be like a DS RPG, but with better stories and fewer boss battles.

      *BAM* Objection!

  15. Good luck. by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

    It's already exhausting staring at that thing for hours, especially with Japanese RPGs which already feature a novel's worth of writing to begin with. I can only imagine how uncomfortable it will be trying to read a book with that thing.

    In the very least, I think the DS needs a much higher resolution screen before they start considering anything like this.

  16. UK? Text in English? by objekt · · Score: 3, Funny

    Damn! Sure I can buy it on Ebay, but I speak American.

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    1. Re:UK? Text in English? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the sad part is im not sure if you being sarcastic or not.

    2. Re:UK? Text in English? by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      but I speak American.

      You're not supposed to speak to it, or listen to it, you are supposed to *read* it.

      Hell, some folks read Hieroglyphics, Sumerian and Mayan, without being able to speak it.

      Just look at English as a challenge for you to learn how to read another ancient language.

      I don't think that last sentence came out quite right.

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    3. Re:UK? Text in English? by frenchbedroom · · Score: 1

      whoosh ?

    4. Re:UK? Text in English? by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 1

      I am not sure whether this deserves +funny, or a "ZOMG whooosh you id10t1!11!!"...and the not knowing is killing me.

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  17. Did they forget about the DSi? by Sockatume · · Score: 1

    You have to wonder whether Nintendo's all one company or a fragmentary band communicating by carrier pigeon. The DSi is about to come out and NoE decide to publish a collection of public domain books on cartridge? Wouldn't it be more sensible to charge some nominal fee for an ebook reader program on the DSi store and then let people "beam" books from the intertrons? Come to think of it, the DSi has a browser built in which will merrily read the contents of Project Gutenberg.

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    1. Re:Did they forget about the DSi? by porcupine8 · · Score: 1

      I'm sure they'd absolutely LOVE to not sell a single thing to the millions of people who already own a DS or DS Lite, and ONLY sell this to the people who buy a system that won't even exist in the country these books are being sold in for months.

      There's no reason they can't release this, AND do what you're suggesting once the DSi actually, y'know, exists. No reason to ignore possible profit now when it wouldn't interfere with profit later.

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    2. Re:Did they forget about the DSi? by Sparton · · Score: 1

      Since the DSi is not out yet, this could also be seen as Nintendo gauging the interest of eBooks on the DS. If this does well in Britan, perhaps they'll look to do more with the DSi at/near it's launch.

  18. You're All Missing The Point by Chabil+Ha' · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I imagine that this product is not geared to twitchy eight year old kids, but a bid to capture older generations (35+). First they came out with their memory enhancement games that had broader appeal to non-gamers. This is just another step in that direction.

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    1. Re:You're All Missing The Point by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Exactly, the DS ads in the UK all feature famous middle-aged-ish celebrities, and programs like the Jamie Oliver cooking one are aimed squarely at non games players.

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    2. Re:You're All Missing The Point by hey! · · Score: 1

      It certainly fits in with Nintendo's marketing philosophy, which is to broaden the appeal of its platforms beyond traditional gamers.

      Economy of scale in tech hardware ultimately trumps everything. It doesn't matter how far "behind" you are on tech specs, if you sell enough units eventually you can challenge your competitors in any market segment by any metric they choose.

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    3. Re:You're All Missing The Point by Jorophose · · Score: 1

      I'd rather have battery life and novel controls that everyone is going to copy next generation than "better graphics".

      How many people were actively looking for touchscreens on things like netbooks before the DS? Motion control before "Revolution" was said to have it?

  19. Re:Those are two things that go together naturally by Flopy · · Score: 1

    Smith & Wesson diet supplements?

    I just thought of "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" as a good slogan for them.

  20. Aren't they all in the commons? by Hellcom · · Score: 1

    Who would buy this when every one of those books is in the public domain. It's cheaper and better to use a homebrew app like Moonshell http://www.ds-xtra.com/MoonShell and download as many public domain works as you want from the Gutenberg project http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page.

  21. My own thoughts on the matter... by Miracle+Jones · · Score: 1

    The DS is a horrible, clunky interim device, but it is definitely closer to what I'd like to see than the Kindle or the Sony Ereader. I've penned a lengthy essay on the matter over at The Fiction Circus: The Dream You Hold: Four Metaphors for Books, Offered as Aid to the New Electronic Bookbinders You guys should read it and tell me what you think. What I am missing and what I've got right.

  22. More details... by kev-san · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The article submitter (Miracle Jones) just posted a good article on this here.

  23. Nintendo's New Business Model by Enderandrew · · Score: 1

    Before they kept selling the same titles over and over again (buy the classic NES games for the SNES, and then again for the GB, and now again on the Virtual Console!) and now they're selling public domain works.

    In all fairness, I guess reissuing old games is better than letting them fade away into obscurity when most people don't have the old systems to legally play old games anymore.

    I just wish Nintendo would focus more on new products. My N64 and Gamecube both gathered dust from not enough quality releases, and my Wii is likely to do the same.

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  24. Ugh, more propietary formats by Thaelon · · Score: 2, Informative

    Is anyone else sick of proprietary ebook formats?

    I have an N810 that I bought primarily for an ebook reader since it runs it runs Linux, the theory behind my purchase was someone out there had or would probably would create something that could read most formats, or I could find converters that could convert many things to some format it could read.

    And then Amazon released the kindle with it's ultra-proprietary ultra-PITA format. There's mobi, Microsoft's format, and I'm sure Sony has something since they have a reader, and Sony is the biggest proponent of proprietary formats ever.

    My personally preferred format is OEB which is really just html with an xml document specifying book information. That FB reader that my N810 uses renders beautifully and pre-populates author/title information for me.

    Does anyone know of a converter for some of the DRMed proprietary formats that convert to OEB? I have Linux (Ubuntu) and windows available to run things on.

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    1. Re:Ugh, more propietary formats by Rycross · · Score: 1

      According to wikipedia, the Kindle supports a variety of non-DRMed formats. Wikipedia doesn't have any info on the N810. Going off only my memory (and gut), most of the ebook readers I've seen do support non-DRMed formats. I think that the problem is with publishers.

    2. Re:Ugh, more propietary formats by rlp · · Score: 1

      Baen books offers non-DRM sci-fi e-books (including many free ones). I've been reading the 1632 series on my Nokia 770 tablet. Michael McCollum offers his books (Gibralter Earth, etc.) at his site (http://www.scifi-az.com/) without DRM.

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    3. Re:Ugh, more propietary formats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's an unfortunately named application, it's called clit. It should do the job nicely. However, having programs like clit and gimp on my computer... hmm.

    4. Re:Ugh, more propietary formats by JohnBailey · · Score: 1

      There's an unfortunately named application, it's called clit. It should do the job nicely. However, having programs like clit and gimp on my computer... hmm.

      Even more unfortunate for us Linux users.. You need Wine to make use of clit.

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    5. Re:Ugh, more propietary formats by EvilNTUser · · Score: 1

      Yet again, an industry doesn't want us as customers.

      And the solution is always the same.

      Don't support DRM.

      http://thepiratebay.org/search/book/0/99/600

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    6. Re:Ugh, more propietary formats by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      I keep my ebook collection as (mostly) either html or txt files, all run though bzip2 to save the space. So I have, lets say, MobyDick.htm.bz2 and LostCity.txt.bz2.
       
      I used to convert them as needed to pdf files by loading the text or html into OpenOffice (or in the case of html loading it into Firefox and then cut-and-paste into OpenOffice) and then use either OO's built-in "export to PDF" function or the cups-pdf driver to create a PDF file that I could read with Acrobat Reader. (You get to choose your margins, page size, font and text size by doing it this way, so I could make the PDF file into something that's comfortable for me to read.)
       
      However, I recently purchased an Acer Aspire One and have found an even better solution. http://www.fbreader.org/
       
      FBReader will read txt and html files directly from my bz2 files, and it allows you to set the margins, font and size just as you wish too. I now use the wireless networking on the Acer to run FBReader remotely from anywhere around my home and office, with a "ssh desktopcomputer FBReader" command to run FBReader on my desktop computer and view it on my Acer. This way FBReader on my desktop computer continues to have all of my books up-to-date (meaning that it remembers where I left off in each one) and I can still sit back in my easy chair with my Acer and read books. If I want to take it into the big world outside, I can also keep a copy of my books locally on the Acer and run FBReader locally there.
       
      FBReader works much better on the Acer Aspire One than simply reading PDF's due to the Aspire One's small screen size.

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    7. Re:Ugh, more propietary formats by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      Even more unfortunate for us Linux users.. You need Wine to make use of clit.
       
      -1 completely wrong.
       
      Where did you get that idea? You just compile it from the source for whatever you want.
       
      file clit
      clit: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped

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    8. Re:Ugh, more propietary formats by JohnBailey · · Score: 1

      But then the joke wouldn't work.

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    9. Re:Ugh, more propietary formats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ConvertLIT ("clit", yeah yeah) to convert Microsoft DRMed E-Books to HTML.

    10. Re:Ugh, more propietary formats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the book is DRM'd then your kind of SOL.

      The above statement does not apply if you can print the DRM'd book. Then just print the book to something like primopdf to convert it.

      And Sony does have a DRM for their books: you can either use DRM'd pdfs via Adobe Digital Editions, or you can buy from their store which comes in secured BBeB format.

      There is also the new 'standard' ebook format, ePub, which can be DRM'd, but it is slow to be adopted.

    11. Re:Ugh, more propietary formats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      PrntScrn

    12. Re:Ugh, more propietary formats by IRGlover · · Score: 1

      But what can you expect from an Innocent White Lamb?

      I thought the joke was pretty good anyway.

  25. Objection! by arugulatarsus · · Score: 2, Informative

    I thought the DS had a lot of interactive books already available. Namely all of the Phoenix Wright series.

    1. Re:Objection! by orielbean · · Score: 1

      There is also homebrew of the old-school Lone Wolf paperback choose-your-own adventure RPG. I think there's only 1 or 2 of them, but it's amazing and perfect for the DS, like the PW series.

    2. Re:Objection! by Sparton · · Score: 2, Informative

      Two things:

      1) This is about normal books on the DS, not interactive novels. One is passive, the other is not.

      2) You call four Phoenix Wright games and half a dozen other interesting titles "a lot"? It definitely seems impressive compared to what any other current-gen gaming console or handheld has, but compared to the level of books that are published throughout the world (heck, even compared to the number of book hits each year), that's nothing.

  26. Re:Those are two things that go together naturally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, what next, a Microsoft game console?

  27. How to get & convert AZWs by Thaelon · · Score: 1

    I would purchase virtually every book I read from Amazon if I could get it in a format my Nokia N810 can read, but they're determined to lock you into their Kindle, it's pay to play service, and it's proprietary AZW format.

    Does anyone know how to get your purchased kindle books other than wireless delivery, and also, how to convert them (preferably to OEB)?

    I haven't tried yet, but I'm not even sure they'll let me buy an ebook if I don't have a kindle I can tie to my Amazon account for them to send it to.

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    1. Re:How to get & convert AZWs by susan16321 · · Score: 1

      Kindle books are only readable on a Kindle. There is no legal way to convert them. You can buy books from other places, like Fictionwise.com and Baen Books (www.webscription.net) in an open Mobipocket format that is usable on a lot of smartphones. Don't get the Secure Mobipocket ones unless you're sure your phone can read them; they have DRM specific to a device.

  28. mixed message by Dzimas · · Score: 1

    Selling an RSA encrypted cart containing a collection of books in the public domain is hypocrisy at its best. I concur with some of the others in this thread who recommend loading ebooks onto flash cards; I actually bought a handful of DSTT cards from DealExtreme for under $7 each, shipped. I loaded 'em up with a couple of dozen homebrew titles - including the moonshell video player (with an assortment of PD cartoons and short films) and an ebook app. My friends and family will be getting one, as an example of how the DS is a great homebrew platform. Much more fun than a gift card or dvd.

  29. Tag "dumbestfuckingidea" by RockMFR · · Score: 1

    The DS is awkward to hold, even more so when it's on its side. The screens hold only a small amount of text. Books are FREE to read at a library, and they don't require electricity!

    1. Re:Tag "dumbestfuckingidea" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Books also take up far far more physical space than a DS card loaded up with text and books also require electricity to read if the Sun's gone down (unless you do all your reading by candlelight or kerosene lamp, of course).

    2. Re:Tag "dumbestfuckingidea" by Nazlfrag · · Score: 1

      The DS makes a great little reading gadget. I mainly use it to browse online texts and it's perfect. Much better for casual reading than a laptop. Perhaps you should try it before being overly dismissive.

  30. ClearType by tepples · · Score: 1

    The bigger issue is that [the DS Lite screens'] .24mm dot pitch is extremely coarse for a mobile device (.24 would be around that of a desktop monitor) - compared again to the iPhone at .16 or so, it doesn't give much room for font anti-aliasing.

    But each pixel has blue, green, and red components side-by-side, so you can get closer to .08 if your reader software uses subpixel antialiasing.

  31. Will they have "David Coperfield?" by kiddailey · · Score: 1

    Will they have "David Coperfield?"

    That's "David Coperfield" with one P, by Edmund Wells.

    1. Re:Will they have "David Coperfield?" by ZzzzSleep · · Score: 1

      How about "Ethel the Aadvark goes Quantity Surveying"?

  32. Region coding by tepples · · Score: 1

    The DSi is about to come out and NoE decide to publish a collection of public domain books on cartridge?

    Nintendo DSi is the only major handheld video game system whose games are region-locked.

    1. Re:Region coding by Sparton · · Score: 1

      Nintendo DSi is the only major handheld video game system whose games are region-locked.

      Wrong; you're information is from early mistranslations of the initial announcement. All games released on the DS will not be region-locked, and that includes ones that are made after the DSi. Only downloadable content and other software made specifically for the DSi is region-locked.

    2. Re:Region coding by tepples · · Score: 1

      Nintendo DSi is the only major handheld video game system whose games are region-locked.

      Wrong; you're information is from early mistranslations of the initial announcement. All games released on the DS will not be region-locked, and that includes ones that are made after the DSi. Only downloadable content and other software made specifically for the DSi is region-locked.

      But wouldn't that include games made specifically for the DSi, using its cameras, allegedly faster CPU, and allegedly bigger RAM?

    3. Re:Region coding by Sparton · · Score: 1

      But wouldn't that include games made specifically for the DSi, using its cameras, allegedly faster CPU, and allegedly bigger RAM?

      It shouldn't. Nintendo has publicly clarified that the games (DS or DSi) will not be region-locked. It'll be hard to confirm until the DSi is launched elsewhere in the world, however.

  33. PDAs have touch by tepples · · Score: 1

    How many people were actively looking for touchscreens on things like netbooks before the DS?

    Anybody who had used a PDA. But back then, they weren't called "netbooks" but "tablet PCs".

  34. Redundant? by senorpoco · · Score: 1

    I love the idea, and anything that promotes literacy is a winner in my books. However Project Gutenburg will be where I get my FREE classics. http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page

  35. So lemmie get this straight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    $30 to let you read books on your teevee? There is some kind of weird irony there.

  36. What the crap?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nintendo is failing big time.
    They keep making non-games, for a gaming device...

  37. No need by fm6 · · Score: 1

    If you own a DS, you NEED to own a R4.

    Why? Pocket devices just aren't very good as eBook readers. If you read with any speed at all, you have to turn the page every 3 seconds. It gets old.

    Right now, I often read eBooks on my Motion Computing tablet, where the screen is a little bigger than that of most hardbound book pages. And when the price comes down to something reasonable, I'll probably get a Kindle or Sony. These have a screen the size of a paperback book page, which is probably the minimum practical size for a reader.

    I'll save my DS for playing Advance Wars.

  38. Re:Nintendo DS by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

    Nintendo used to be a powerful system for real men.

    In which alternate reality was this?

  39. US book piracy before 1986 by ErkDemon · · Score: 3, Interesting
    You mean like the United States?

    As far as books and the Berne convention are concerned, I think the US was probably a rogue state until, what, ... 1986?

    Until then, the US had a thing called the Manufacturing Clause, which (as far as I can recall) meant that the US refused to acknowledge copyrights on any books that weren't physically made in the US. Basically, it meant that if you wanted to sell a book in the US, you had to employ a US-based printer ... if you didn't employ one of them to produce copies of your book, the US printing community had a legal green light to print as many pirate copies of your book as they liked.

    Basically, the US printing lobby lobbied the government to protect them from foreign imports, and they got their way (and copyright be damned).

    There are two slightly shocking things about the Manufacturing Clause:

    • One, that the US was technically a safe haven for (non-US) book piracy as late at 1986. This is at odds with the image that legislators typically present of the US as a country that has historically been a strong believer in copyright law. When we criticise China as a rogue state for not following international copyright conventions, it's important to remember for context's sake that the US also didn't respect some key international conventions on copyright until comparatively recently.
    • Two, that because the Manufacturing Clause is kinda embarrassing, most people today don't seem to know that it ever existed. It currently only has a brief single-paragraph entry on Wikipedia with no discussion page, and it didn't seem to be mentioned in any of the general histories of US copyright law that I've just googled (until I specifically set "manufacturing clause" as a search term).

      For a while, I think that some overseas publishers were getting around the Manufacturing Clause by sending their books to the US in unbound form, and paying a US printer just to put the covers on in the US, on the basis that this counted as "manufacturing". I think this was considered by some US printers as cheating.

  40. Incentive to create by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a matter of fact Dickens faced enormous problems with piracy at the time. It seems that certain rogue countries in that pre-Berne Convention era saw fit to disregard Dickens's copyrights and allowed pirate printers to profit by his works without paying the author so much as a penny.

    Let's be honest here; if they had enforceable 50-years copyright back then, Dickens would not have written so many fine books but instead sit back and collect royalties after a few good sellers.

    1. Re:Incentive to create by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      Yeah, like modern authors who write a best seller and immediately stop writing.

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  41. Parents buying them for their kids by ErkDemon · · Score: 1
    If you're a parent, and your kid spends all day playing shoot-em-ups on a portable computer game, and you have trouble persuading them to put down the console and open a book ... and you're worried about their literacy level, because they don't seem to spend any time reading, and their school reports say that their spelling and grammar sucks ...

    ... then yes, the idea that you could get them a hundred-book library on a Nintendo cartridge or a PS2 disk and give it to your kid as a christmas present might have some appeal. The kid might initially be unimpressed, but they're likely to at least have a poke about the list, and if there are some Sherlock Holmes short stories or other juicy titbits, there's a chance that they might quietly read //something//. And then, who knows, they might read a few more. Y'know, in private, when you can't see them doing it.

    Actually, while we're on the subject, does anyone know if there =IS= a PS2 equivalent? 'Cos I know someone who might be interested.

    1. Re:Parents buying them for their kids by xstonedogx · · Score: 1

      Something like this only has appeal as a parent if you are too lazy to spend time instilling an appreciation of books in your kid.

      I love books because it my parents took the time to instill an appreciation of books in me. My kid loves books because, every day, we help her establish and grow her love of books by having her read, reading to her, providing her with new and challenging reading material, and setting an example by reading ourselves. Except in extreme cases (e.g., learning disabilities), it's just not that tough.

      Yes, occasionally kids pick up a love of books from other sources (sounds like maybe that's your experience?), but as parents it's not our job to hope, it's our job to provide. Anyone hoping that their kid is somehow magically going to learn to love books because they bought them Jane Austen for DS could probably benefit from cracking open a few books themselves. They're gambling, at best.

      And, as a parent, I am certainly not looking for ways to get my kid to spend more time staring at a tiny screen.

    2. Re:Parents buying them for their kids by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      Actually, while we're on the subject, does anyone know if there =IS= a PS2 equivalent? 'Cos I know someone who might be interested.

      As far as I know, there isn't, unless you install Linux on it.

      I once suggested to SCEA that they do an "educational tool and homework helper disk" for the PS2. It might really be useful for one PC families. Slap a basic word processor (something akin to Wordpad or the old GeoWrite), a web browser good enough for wikipedia (perhaps based on Dillo code), maybe a typing tutor and a calculator.

      It'd be easier with a PS3, it has a built in web browser, and it's easier to install Linux on it.

    3. Re:Parents buying them for their kids by ErkDemon · · Score: 1
      If your kid already loves books, and already has the book "habit" then you (and they) obviously aren't the target market that I was describing.

      I hate to break this to you, but not all adults love books. Hell, not all adults have even basic literacy skills. Not all adults know how to be good parents. Some of them had rotten parents themselves and don't know what a good parent looks like, even if they have good intentions and want to do the best by their kids. Not all parents get to spend lots of quality time with their kids. Some have to work three jobs, and others only get to see their kids for a few hours every fortnight. And it's difficult to pass down a love of something if you never had that thing yourself. It doesn't necessarily mean that they're lazy.

      Not all parents have a basic education, and not all homes have books. Not all parents can read. There are a lot of homes where books simply aren't a part of the culture, and a parent, told that they ought to have some books lying around, wouldn't have any idea what to get, or how to get a kid interested in something that they themselves never found interesting as a kid.

      What there is now is a culture of hand-held game platforms (what kid wouldn't want to spend a few hours flying the Millennium Falcon?).

      If a parent who doesn't have a "booky" background has a PS2-addicted kid (and lets face it, some of these games are basically the audiovisual equivalent of crack), and they don't know how to persuade their kid that perhaps reading a lot of old words printed on a glued stack of paper might be more interesting than starship battles and blowing up the Death Star, then this at least allows them so sneak a full library of "classic" books into the kid's game collection.

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      Nobody's asking you to buy such a thing for your kids, but there are going to be a lot of other parents out there who'd be interested in something like this.

  42. Cheap by slapout · · Score: 1

    "will feature 100 classic books"

    You mean books that they won't have to pay licensing fees for?

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  43. I want my ten minutes back by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What do your metaphors say about you?

    BOOKS AS WALLS: I am an insular introvert scared of communicating with the real world and enjoying real experiences and prefer to live my life second hand through someone else's vision.

    BOOKS AS DOORS: I am a vapid self absorbed delusional schizophrenic who finds books a convenient excuse for my social ineptitude.

    BOOKS AS FRIENDS: I am a pitiful wretch of humanity with not a single other living soul with which to share my lonely, dreary existence.

    BOOKS AS GENITALS: I am in need of severe therapy, involving a pretty girl, a Labrador retriever, a large stack of books and some matches.

    CONCLUSION: Even when the last book on earth has perished to the new age of electronic publication you will still be a sad, pathetic excuse for a human being.

    That was a little harsh, but you insulted the thing I use to hide behind walls, to open new doors, to make friends and to explore my sexual fantasies. Strip away your romantic aesthetic and you're left with an outdated medium of communication, no more, no less. Nothing you said in all of that terrible prose would help anyone, anywhere design a better e-book reader.

  44. Mod parent funny by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A good article? Let me guess, you'll be here all week, try the shrimp?

  45. Waste of money. by kevind23 · · Score: 1

    I already have an e-reader on my DS. And I don't have to pay $30 to read public-domain books.

  46. Mobipocket by Xoltri · · Score: 1

    Personally, I use Mobipocket on my Blackberry to read eBooks all the time. The reader is free, and it works great. http://www.mobipocket.com/en/DownloadSoft/default.asp?Language=EN

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  47. Re:Those are two things that go together naturally by Sparton · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, Nintendo has pushed the Brain Age games and "keeping your brain young", so this seems like a logical step for them. Targeting only Britan with it's initial launch (which doesn't currently have Kindle available locally) seems like an interesting way to gauge the market in areas that don't have a worldwide-known competitor.

  48. DSLibris by B1ackDragon · · Score: 1

    I second the vote for DSLibris. Getting books into xhtml format is a pain in the ass, but once you do the reader is quite nice. The DS could use a bit higher resolution for reading, but it's not too bad IMO.

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  49. Attention offended gamers by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    You missed his point, which is that being a gamer in no way precludes reading Dickens (which is what you unjustly implied).

    Sorry if you thought I implied it. I thought I was perfectly clear. Statistically speaking, why in the world would you look towards gamers for an audience for classic literature? They are more of a Fantasy/Sci-fi crowd, if they even bother reading more than 1 book at month.

    eBooks worked great for PalmOS because when you combine the set of nerdy people with extra money of a PDA with the set of people who read books, it still ended up with a large set.

    If we combine the set of people who read classics with the set of people who are interested in buying more things for a Nintendo DS. And I am skeptical that the results are at all spectacular.

    Just because you had to read Dickens one semester in school years ago and you also play games, doesn't mean I'm going to assume that you would pay a few bucks for a collection of classic literature to read on your NDS. In fact I feel confident that I can safely assume that almost nobody would do this beyond the shear novelty of buying a non-game DS cartridge/card. Will any of us who buy this really use it a year from now.

    Most importantly, will any of us ready even 5 of the books in the 100 it offers in the next 5 years, even if you don't read it on the DS? And while I enjoyed reading "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" on my Kindle, I can't really claim that I'm a gamer anymore. (unless maintaining my NES counts as gaming and not merely a weird hobby)

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  50. Why the UKONLY tag? by pcgabe · · Score: 1

    Why is this tagged ukonly? The DS isn't region-locked.

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  51. screen is too small by code4fun · · Score: 1

    This is great for reading children's books which is the bulk of its users, but I doubt anyone wants to read War & Peace on it. ;-)
    Give me a Mac tablet/netbook please!

  52. Subject by Legion303 · · Score: 1

    Oh, hey, 100 free Project Gutenberg titles for the low, low price of merely $30. That's...great.

  53. Had this in Japanese for a long time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They've been publishing collections of Japanese classics for a long time. The only new thing here is that they're targeting the same concept at an English speaking market, with English language classics.

  54. Easy Pirate DS Action. by djdavetrouble · · Score: 1

    not only that, its amazingly cheap. Flashcarts are under $10.00, SDHC chip under $10.00, roms are downloadable in huge torrents.

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  55. Re:Of Course UK Only by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard books can be brain-rotting devices as well. So does that mean you are a in a group of sheeple who read stupid books and consider themselves superior to those who enjoy television?