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Photos of the Damage To the Large Hadron Collider
holy_calamity writes "CERN have released images of the damage done to the world's most powerful machine, the Large Hadron Collider, when an electrical fault caused a helium leak. New Scientist has posted them, along with explanations of what you can see. The sudden burst of gas shifted some of the huge superconducting magnets by half a meter, causing at least $21 million in damage."
This story is red?
is this story red?
wow, it's red now
I bet a lot of people felt pretty salty after this happened... WHOOPS!
I'm conCERNed that this think may never stay functional long enough to destroy the earth.
On an unrelated note, if there's two things I love, one is pointless, likely redundant puns, and the other is shouting "the sky is falling!"
I'll bet they get it working on 12/12/2012.
Did anyone else see this as red? For Christmas, I wonder?
This is too important to worry about some loose change (in the grand scheme of the LHC) the most important aspect is the lost time.
:-)
The sooner they get back on track (geddit) the better
If I had an Ass, I'd call it Fanny Bottom, then I could slap my Ass; Fanny Bottom, on the Arse.
poor machine :(
Ah, through the "wisdom" of the US Congress, the SSC (Superconducting Super Collider) was killed over a mere $12 Billion cost savings (which was well under construction just south of Dallas, TX). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider
Some say it was largely due to infighting with 'higher educational interests' back East and in the Chicago area, - but really the answer most likely due to nothing more than Greed and Money.
TO think that The US Federal Government will give taxpayer money to banks et al to the tune of $2 Trillion with NIL oversight and NIL public disclosure is extremely dangerous and shortsighted. ( http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20670001&refer=home&sid=aXNaCKxb.oIs )
We (in the US) could have had something MORE POWERFUL than the LHC here in the US. (As I try not to think about the high-energy physicist brain-drain to France/Switzerland)...
Once upon a time, the US took pride in having the best and coolest toys the world over... (/sigh)
This is actually pretty cool... and I'll tell you why I feel that way.
If it just worked, I'd be amazed at the results, follow the discoveries. But there's something about it NOT working that reminds me this is the cuttingf edge of the cutting edge. Thi is when the rocket launch explodes on the pad, this is when the systems fail... and it shouts "humanity is working outside its limits, and we're pushing those limits every time we do something like this". I dig it when the REALLY REALLY smart people have issues with something... usually thats very cool stuff.
I should say when they have trouble with 'technical/physics/electronics' kind of stuff. Not with women. We know they have trouble there already.
There's nothing Intelligent about Intelligent Design.
I preferred the description of the damage that was released a couple of days ago on CNET-
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-10120215-76.html
"A resistive zone developed in one of the electrical connections, creating an electrical arc that punctured one of the helium enclosures around a magnet, according to an analysis by CERN. The warming helium expanded in the vacuum enclosure of the central subsector of the pipe, damaging the vacuum barriers separating the central subsector from the neighboring subsectors."
Geordi La Forge couldn't have said it better.
Seems like Dr. Who aimed his screw driver at that thing. That would be cool though.
"Thanks for all the money you paid to us. We've used it to buy off ISO among other things" -Microsoft
...for trying to engulf the planet in a black hole.
The interest rates on my credit cards is getting outta hand and I was hoping the LHC would help change this.
Anyone who has been following these developments closely knows that the "helium leak" is just a cover story for the out of control mini black hole they created when they turned it on. Those magnets were shifted when they were finally able to collapse down the black hole, it went out with a massive gravitation burst (measured by seismographs as far away as the USGS Hawaii Volcano Observatory) that damaged a lot more equipment then they are letting on. Now that they know how dangerous it is, I wouldn't count on them ever turning on the Large Hardon Collider again.
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
Does the $21M cover the repairs to the damage done by the gas leak directly, or to that and the changes needed throughout (I would imagine) the entire system to make sure it doesn't happen again? I mean, since it failed the test and the electrical wiring couldn't handle the high current, won't they need to upgrade all the wiring? Either way, $21M really doesn't seem that bad for a project of this magnitude, I mean, what is that, the annual profits of an average smallish medium sized business?
You know somewhere in another universe this thing is working fine.
MRIs have a feature called quenching. Where when there is a problem there are small heaters which heat the Liquid Helium to a warmer temperature (that closer to liquid Nitrogen). So you don't break your million dollar MRI. But loose a Thousand dollar supply of Liquid He
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
Clearly this was an act of Divine Intervention...
What makes CERN so unique, is that per the article "Large amounts of helium vaporised, causing several magnets to heat up"
In honour of the LHC starting up in September, my girlfriend made some celebratory cookies ... of the Large Hadron Goatse. Note the gold ring.
Ah, but don't go home with your hadron
It will only drive you insane
You can't shake it (or break it) with your Motown
You can't melt it down in the rain.
http://rocknerd.co.uk
The pictures aren't appearing in my browser. Unclear why; some CSS botch or attempt at DRM, I expect. Anyway, here are the actual picture links:
HTML 3.1 - it just works.
New Scientist broke these pix, not CERN. I'm pretty sure i know who took those pix (not gonna tell!). "We" where i work have had them for a while, and have elected NOT to spread them around and allow CERN to put them up themselves. I guess someone decided to "help" them out. It is debatable as to the moral rectitude of this decision, but I could have put these up weeks ago and chose _not_ to.
As i understand it, the pictures you see are taken 5 half-cells away from the primary failure, or somewhere around 50+ meters from the explosion.
Wow, huh?
Note the red things in the picture, those are magnet stands, ripped out of the concrete. The magnet body in that shot is sitting on wood cribbing -- it was sitting on the floor. You can deduce the displacement form careful examination.
Berry ++ ungood. We all feel badly for them and wish them the best of luck.
"Well there's your problem!"
Thanks for letting us in on the details so quickly.[/sarcasm]
One of my sources ( the one I use the tinfoil hat to talk to ) reports that in one of our adjacent alternative universes there is a black hole where Earth used to be. The last message through that pipeline was from one of the Cern engineers, saying "Watch This!" They have had to seal the connection to that universe to prevent our universe from being sucked through the pipe by the black hole at the other end.
I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me than a prefrontal lobotomy.
Hey, remember the EJC at the connection this time!
Brings a tear to my eye.
I am, and that is sufficient.
Not with a whimper, Not with a bang, but with a chorus of high-pitched funny voices.
Once it became apparent that the original SDI project(s) weren't going to happen, part of the strategic justification for priority-funding SSC disappeared.
Eric Baird
Actually, I'm really quite disappointed in the computer games community, that they haven't used a revamped SSC as a fictional location for a racing game. I mean, you have nice tubular tunnels which means that cars can loop-the-loop and do all sorts of cool things ... at maximum speed, the driving view would be at ~90 degrees to horizontal in the bends ... just needs some section colour coding, a bunch of floating camera pods and some bolt-on gadgetry (viewing stations, etc) for the cars to avoid. Maybe some rocket launchers.
"SSC Racer". Cooool. If anyone wants to write it, give me a credit somewhere ...
Eric Baird
We need Alpinekat to write a new rap telling us what went wrong in 'street' terms.
Squirrel!
No one has to get worried, because LHC will not create any black holes or even dark matter ,why you may ask ? its because the have got the whole science wrong so no one should worry that i can gurantee you 100%
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