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Watergate "Deep Throat" Mark Felt Dead At 95
Hugh Pickens writes "W. Mark Felt Sr., 95, associate director of the FBI during the Watergate scandal, better known as 'Deep Throat,' the most famous anonymous source in American history, died at his home in Santa Rosa, California. Felt secretly guided Washington Post reporters Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein to pursue the story of the 1972 break-in of the Democratic National Committee's headquarters at the Watergate office buildings, and later of the Nixon administration's campaign of spying and sabotage against its perceived political enemies. 'It's impossible to exaggerate how high the stakes were in Watergate,' wrote Felt in his 2006 book A G-Man's Life. 'We faced no simple burglary, but an assault on government institutions, an attack on the FBI's integrity, and unrelenting pressure to unravel one of the greatest political scandals in our nation's history.' No one knows exactly what prompted Felt to leak the information from the Watergate probe to the press. He was passed over for the post of FBI director after Hoover's death in 1972, a crushing career disappointment. 'People will debate for a long time whether I did the right thing by helping Woodward. The bottom line is that we did get the whole truth out, and isn't that what the FBI is supposed to do?'"
I think I'd feel dead at 95 too, if I were not in really good health.
The FBI is supposed to get the whole truth out. Unfortunately, there are people who want to bring politics into enforcing the law, so we need checks and balances on the entire government. That's where the media comes in. Mark Felt did do the right thing, even though it was incredibly difficult for him at the time. RIP, Mark. (now, whether we'd have the balls to do that today, or the attention span to see it through, is another question entirely. I don't think we do, quite honestly, judging by the multiple scandals that have gone seemingly unpunished during the Bush administration.)
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I was JUST about to sit down and watch Thursday's breaking news that I had on TiVo, and now you've just ruined it for me.
For whatever reason he chose, he did the right thing. If more folks did that maybe Presidents wouldn't run the Whitehouse as their supermarket for all their cronies.
W. Mark Felt Sr...the most famous anonymous source in American history...
Correction, the 2nd most famous formerly anonymous source. We, the Anonymous Cowards Collective of Slashdot are now the most famous anonymous source in American history. Come on guys, let's have 95 anonymous posts in honor of Mr. Mark Felt.
Yet Felt was not strictly against "black bag jobs" like the Watergate break-in:
While Watergate was seething, Mr. Felt authorized nine illegal break-ins at the homes of friends and relatives of members of the Weather Underground, a violent left-wing splinter group. The people he chose as targets had committed no crimes. The F.B.I. had no search warrants. He later said he ordered the break-ins because national security required it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/19/washington/19felt.html?scp=1&sq=mark%20felt&st=cse
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I knew all about the watergate story, but had no idea this was his code name!
I was watching the news and I heard them say it... I had to rewind and put on the subtitles (sky+) to see what they said, and I couldn't believe it!
oh well, I have a imature sense of humor!
I could go for some of that right about now!
I guess this weekend, seeing as I'm literally snowed into my apartment, I'll fire up All the President's Men on the TV........and Deep Throat....
If you don't know much about Watergate, I suggest hitting up Watergate on Wikipedia, then considering acquiring a copy of Woodward and Bernstein's All the President's Men. Those two reporters were the ones two interacted with Deep Throat, named for a 70s porn.
The 1976 Redford/Hoffman movie version of the book All the President's Men is the definitive story in video format.
Emery's Watergate is another arguably excellent book on the matter.
Avoid the new "Frost/Nixon" film--it's history ambiguous and largely inaccurate; it's a Hollywood version of the story with excellent acting. Instead, watch the original interviews.
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Yes, Jefferson chose free speech over a regulated media, and we reap the benefits of that in spite of the pain it can cause. Still, it seems the media falls into two camps:
- Illuminate, Educate, and Illustrate
- Titillate, Castigate, and Prevaricate
One pays better than the other, but one is much better for society in the long run.
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Mark Felt disclosed to Woodward and Bernstein what he thought would hurt Nixon, because Nixon had passed over Felt (#2 at FBI when Hoover finally died) in favor of a Nixon crony, an "outsider", to run the FBI instead of promoting Felt.
I'm glad he did. But I don't admire or respect Felt for it. Because Felt could have disclosed any of that stuff (or more that he surely knew) to Woodward and Bernstein, or many other journalists, well before he had reasons of personal revenge. Which might have prevented Nixon from being reelected in 1972, instead of a landslide followed by an aborted impeachment that has left this country in Constitutional crisis through today, worse every time around the cycle.
I'm not glad he's dead, either. I wish he had spilled more, about other Nixon cronies (like Rumsfeld and Cheney), and he might have done so once the Bush era was finally safely over, and those other criminals were as "retired" as he was. But evidently there wasn't enough personal gain in that kind of disclosure, so Felt never gave it. And now he never will.
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To portray Felt as some heroic whistle-blower is nonsense. For one, Felt hid in the shadows for 30 years, until he was senile and his daughter pulled him into the daylight to capitalize on his fame. Heroes put themselves at personal risk for a higher cause. Felt hid to protect his reputation among his FBI cronies (think cigarette-smoking man types).
More importantly, he was J. Edgar Hoover's #2 at a time when the FBI was wiretapping MLK and John Lennon - and presidents. Yes, there is a reason that Hoover stayed as FBI director, a huge plum appointment for any president, for 48 friggin years. Hoover blackmailed presidents, and everyone else he could wiretap and burglarize. You think his #2 wasn't in on that?
When Hoover died, Nixon did the right thing, what any of the 44 presidents would have done, cleaned house and got the Hoover cronies the hell out of there. And what did Felt do once he didn't get the director job? He did exactly what every president for 48 years was afraid of about Hoover - Felt released dirt on Nixon.
Say what you want about Nixon, but Hoover was the antithesis of a democracy, an unelected guy who abused his power and blackmailed presidents to stay in office for half a century. Appointing Felt to replace him would have been, in retrospect, politically expedient. Felt thought he was entitled to the job and brought Nixon down for it. To suggest that Felt, the ultimate black-bag guy, was appalled at Nixon's shenanigans, when Hoover freaking invented it, is like saying Linsday Lohan is offended by Paris Hilton's public tramp behavior. Ludicrous!
It is interesting that most news reports do not talk about Felt's illegal wiretapping of the Weather Underground (not that I have sympathy for that domestic terror group, but I am not running around claiming to be some civil liberties hero), or they mention it at the very end of the story like AP did.
God knows all of the shit Hoover pulled. Maybe someday it will all come to light. It would make a great movie, but would probably have to be a mini-series or TV show on HBO, as it would likely be impossible to chronicle in 2 hours.
And they named the FBI building after the sumbitch.
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This may be okay if you have a media that's actually motivated by some kind of ethics. In my area (and I suspect many others), the economy isn't really large enough to support much more than a commercially sponsored media primarily interested in turning news into entertainment, and presenting whatever news in whatever form and bias it takes to get as many viewers/readers as possible to sell advertising.
The local media around here tends to be full of people who seem more interested in having themselves seen than in accurately portraying something. It makes sense, too, because in the entertainment industry one of the most important things for future employment is to be seen.
You want to read about Watergate, read G. Gordon Liddy's biography, since he planned and executed Watergate. Then Read Stephen Ambrose's Nixon biography (the third one). Ambrose is the only one who gives a reason why Nixon would want to wiretap Larry O'Brien, not that I am convinced Nixon knew in advance (none of the principles involved have ever claimed this). Silent Coup is an incredibly detailed chronicle of Watergate, but I disagree with its conclusions, other than John Dean was a little rat (Dean was the president's lawyer while working as an FBI informant). Never trust a word that comes out of Dean's mouth.
You'd also want to read Bob Haldeman's and John Erlichman's biographies.
ATPM gets a lot wrong. The bottom line is Nixon wasn't brought down by Woodward and Bernstein, they just kept up the heat.
Nixon was brought down by a guy named Alexander Butterfield announcing to the Senate Watergate Committee that Nixon taped his conversations, which led to the smoking gun tape about Nixon telling the FBI that Watergate was a CIA operation, back-off. Nixon scuttled that idea the next day, but that tape is what brought him down, not W&B. Once Nixon finally released the tapes, that particular tape is what turned Barry Goldwater to support impeachment, and Nixon's goose was cooked. After Nixon heard he lost Goldwater, he turned to his SecState Al Haig and said, "Well, there goes the presidency, Al."
BTW, when Haig dies, I'm betting he was a Woodward source too. Haig, when NSA for Nixon, was given his military briefings by a young Naval Intelligence officer named Bob Woodward. To this day, Woodward will not talk about those briefings.
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Why do you think LBJ, for example, kept Hoover and his cronies (of which Felt was one) in office? To keep them from releasing dirt on him, which they duly didn't. The Hoover/Felt mafia dished the dirt as soon as someone stopped paying the protection money, which was 1972.
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Journalism hasn't been the same: every potential reporter now wants to "be the guy who takes down a president" so all we get is propoganda.
Well, I'm sorry for those who miss him, but I'm even sorryier for the media that now leads us like a juggernaut straight into misery.
(whatever about Bush, I think he genuinely believed his pretext, that Iraqi WMDs existed)
He might have believed that but still allowed al-Qaeda to attack the Twin Towers to get us into the Middle East, not unlike FDR allowing Pearl Harbor to be attacked to gear up American for war back than. All in all they all do it and it's only politics.
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You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who says the history of the Independent Counsel was non-political. Lawrence Walsh and Ken Starr. Or the grandstanding of Patrick Fitzgerald in the modern incarnation of the IC.
Now the Justice Department has a Civil Rights division, and it isn't staffed by Hoover acolytes. It's run by liberals mostly (who else would join the FBI to ensure civil liberties rather than to catch crooks?)
I'll take the modern incarnation of the FBI over some independent counsel initiated by Congress. Lesser of evils.
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I'm not glad he's dead, either. I wish he had spilled more, about other Nixon cronies (like Rumsfeld and Cheney), and he might have done so once the Bush era was finally safely over, and those other criminals were as "retired" as he was. But evidently there wasn't enough personal gain in that kind of disclosure, so Felt never gave it. And now he never will.
I heard Woodward interviewed on Fresh Air on NPR the other day (I think it was a rerun) and according to him, the last time he visited Mark Felt at Felt's home in California, Felt was in poor health. Specifically, he suffered from some form of dementia. According to Woodward, at that time he could barely remember why Nixon had to leave office. He knew who Woodward was, and he told Woodward that he and Bernstein "had done the right thing," but specific details of their past dealings were already lost to him. So as far as spilling any more beans, that door was closed.
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"All in all they all do it and it's only politics"
Oh i see, it's only politics, just some arbitrary tit-for-tat, as harmless as a checkers game.
More like a game of chess, you allow certain pieces to fall than swoop in for the kill. I'm not saying these decisions don't have consequences just that the people in charge may really be making rational decisions. However scary that may sound.
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Mark Felt, another fascist hypocrite, is dead.
Too bad more hypocrites won't be dropping dead soon.
While Felt thought it was perfectly legitimate to violate the civil rights of the families of the members of the Weather Underground with his own "black bag buglaries", he was incensed by Nixons' band of thugs doing the EXACT same thing to the Democrat National Committee at the Watergate.
The only reason Felt went after Nixon was because Felt threw a tantrum when Tricky Dicky wouldn't let him run the FBI so Felt could violate the civil rights of millions more of American citizens in the pursuit of his own fascist agenda.
Felt was J. Edgar Hoovers' docile lapdog and would likely have worn a flowery sun-dress to match Jeds', had Jed asked him to. Perhaps Jed knew from firsthand experience exactly why Felt earned the moniker of "Deep Throat".
Felt was convicted of his crimes but like his fellow travelers in fascism he never served any jail time. He was pardoned by Ronald Reagan, a former movie actor whose two most memorable roles were as a supporting actor in Bedtime for Bonzo and a ventriloquist dummy for the Illuminazi Agents of the New World Order.
The only real travesty of justice is that the heads of neither Nixon nor Felt were not put on pikes in front of the White House and FBI headquarters as a future warning to anyone who might attempt to repeat their fascist misdeeds.
Those who would lull themselves in the false belief that the Democrats are any less fascist than the Republicans need only recall the Massacre at Waco. Felt admired Janet Reno. Timothy McVeigh did exactly what Janet Reno taught him to do, murdering innocent people. Neither should be forgiven.
I do not doubt that Felt still admired Reno even after her massacre of both citizens and the Posse Comitatus Act, but it does make you wonder how many hypocritical circular illogical loops Felts' mind must have revolved around when he heard the news about what McVeigh did.
Being a master of disinformation and trickery himself, I seriously doubt Felt was incapable of seeing that the Massacre at Oklahoma City was a direct and logical conclusion of the heinous and murderous official oppression at Waco but perhaps his own self-righteousness would have continued to cloud his logic and judgement.
Those who would violate the civil rights of others should not be allowed any 8th Amendment protections.
The government serves at the whim of the people, not vice versa. Ask any deposed dictators.
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He's roasting in the coals of Hell right alongside Bobby Fischer
I can't stand Bush and think his presidency has been among the most dangerous in modern history, but there's no credible evidence he "let" 9/11" happen. There's evidence he treated the threat too lightly, but no real reason to believe he had specific knowledge of what would happen and chose to look the other way. What not-so-credible evidence has been presented by conspiracy theorists has been debunked to high heaven.
Hate him on the indisputable merits. It's easier.
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A Bad Man Who Did the Right Thing for the Wrong Reasons.
'[...] unravel one of the greatest known political scandals in our nation's history.'
There, fixed that for you.
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I believe the 9/11 attack would have happened with any president. The way it would be dealt with would have been completely different. Others would not have raped peoples rights so much.
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Felt was caught illegally wiretapping 1960s protesters, was tried and convicted. Reagan pardoned Felt in 1981, stating Felt was following a higher purpose.
You won't learn that on National Public Radio.
It took Ford to ultimately end the Vietnam war.
I agree with your point that the war was a horrible blunder. It's not defensible. Using lies to drum up support is a horrible tactic and precedent (as we witness now).
The 'Gulf of Tonkin' resolution was the continuation of the bad precedent set by declaring the Korean War a 'police action'.
Only congress has the official power to declare war. This bullshit of not declaring war has lead to a stalemate (Korea), abject failure (Vietnam) and muddled blunder (Iraq).
The only time the US has had decided war victories is when Congress declared war.
Maybe on some level, Nixon's actions eventually led to a good outcome. He serves as a warning that power corrupts, and it especially corrupts megalomaniacs. It lead to an erosion of trust for organizations that do not deserve automatic trust.
I totally agree but there is a reasonable amount of uncertainty, it took decades before the Freedom of Information Act gave us the whole story on FDR's knowledge of the impending attacks by the Japaneses. So to dismiss even half-baked conspiracy theories due to lack of evidence is wholly untenable. The government's job is to deceive, inveigle, and obfuscate to bend the people to the will of the world. If nothing else perhaps Bush isn't a monster (although I can't stand him either) but rather was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, making decisions most presidents in the same position would agree with. I've got no evidence to speak of, unless you want a link to Loose Change on You Tube... ...but I'll spare you.
Hate him, love him, you'd probably do the same.
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His motivation was nothing to do with protecting the Constitution or citizens of the US. He worked at the FBI and participated in operations that violated the Constitution and law far more egregiously than Nixon and his horde. Mark Felt took this action because the system did not believe he was competent enough to rise up the ladder. The promotion would have moved him up the food chain, satisfying his ego and Woodward would never have met Felt.
Woodward had connections in the intelligence community and was not the eager young reporter so often portrayed. Interestingly enough, whenever his record comes under analysis he has a swarm of lawyers on hand to silence his critics. Felt wasn't the only informant Woodward had, and it is pretty straight forward to figure out whom he knew that had access to the Whitehouse.
Watergate left us with a self-aggrandizing press, led to the Carter malaise and mainstreamed Reagan in the backlash. Hmmm, probably better off if Felt had accepted his own limitations rather than pretending he was outraged.
I believe the 9/11 attack would have happened with any president.
Not with a competent one. Bush was warned point-blank that Al Queda was looking to attack the U.S., and that they might use hijacked planes to do so. A competent president could have taken 5 seconds to tell the FBI to watch out for terrorists and the FAA to stay alert for possible hijackings. The morning of 09/11/01, the FAA sees 4 planes disappear and reports it to NORAD, which scrambles planes over major cities and forces the planes down.
But we didn't have a competent president, we have a stupid, lazy one.
Read Richard Clarke's book Against All Enemies. It may change your mind.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Clarke
Clarke is hardly a conspiracy theorist.
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