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Software Development Predictions For 2009

snydeq writes "Fatal Exception's Neil McAllister lays out his development predictions for 2009. These include further struggles from Microsoft in retooling its image, a more open source mindset for Java, twilight for Sun, the Web as platform of choice, and a dearth of innovation due to dwindling economic prospects. 'When customers aren't buying, tool vendors don't innovate — so don't expect many groundbreaking new technologies to debut this year,' McAllister writes, adding that smart companies will realize that 'process automation is one of the best ways to reduce costs in any business,' making 2009 the ideal time to 'revisit old software schemes that got shelved back when staffing budgets were flush.'"

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  1. On the contrary by A+beautiful+mind · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Historical trend shows that when the economy is in a recession/crisis/bad shape, that's when people turn towards the radically new. Sort of like a forest fire, it opens up opportunities for startups and new things.

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    1. Re:On the contrary by ionix5891 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      thats assuming the rotten trees get burned and leave space for fresh younglings

      in our case the rotten trees got bailed out

    2. Re:On the contrary by supersnail · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sorry but I cant think of a single company/brand/product that had its origins in the Great Depression.

      Up till 2002 the software industry was counter-cyclic with the rest of the economy. When times got tough companies spent more on computers and associated software to save costs or gain competetive edge.

      But the low hanging fruit is gone and IT departments are just another big budget item that needs cutting. Particularly in the current cluster f***ed economy -- can you think of any software that would get you easier, indeed any, credit from the bank, or, software that would help you sell your latest high tech gizmo to someone who just lost thier job and is having thier mortgage foreclosed?

      Spending on sex, gambling and drugs goes up in hard times, but, the first two are a done deal as far a software is concerned and the third is in a market so free that the competition will kill you.

               

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    3. Re:On the contrary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It really bothers me that the the person that wrote the initial post maintains that companies will sit on existing tech that they have had for years. What needs to be thought here is same-same to see how a trend continues. The thing is that it seems to me that need trends need to ice the market, because these companies keep hotting it.

    4. Re:On the contrary by Sobrique · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Not at all - low hanging fruit may be gone, but 'sloppy' implementations of IT systems are widespread and rife. I do IT for an 'outsource support' provider - many of our customers are in a position where revisiting their IT systems and working practices around them will provide massive dividends.

      Whether they will or not, is another matter - I suspect it's much more likely that they're going to keep their heads down, and work to 'lowest common denominator' IT services.

    5. Re:On the contrary by simplerThanPossible · · Score: 0

      A list of radically new innovations that were adopted during the Great Depression, please.

    6. Re:On the contrary by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sorry but I cant think of a single company/brand/product that had its origins in the Great Depression.

      Hewlett-Packard is one.

      Spending on sex, gambling and drugs goes up in hard times, but, the first two are a done deal as far a software is concerned and the third is in a market so free that the competition will kill you.

      Apparently, people also still tend to buy video games, lucky for me. Naturally, no industry is *completely* free of belt-tightening, but among my circle of friends and colleagues, the market appears to be reasonably stable.

      You also have to keep in mind that *most* people, even in this economy, are employed and still doing well. The US unemployment rate is at,what, around 6.7 percent or so, or about one in every fifteen people? Around 4 percent of the country is ALWAYS employed, generally due to some chronic issue (can't or won't work for some reason) or just due to normal between-job transitions. It sounds about right - I've been unemployed for about 5 percent of my career. It doesn't take much - a six month stretch in an otherwise employed 10 year career.

      The economy slows down not necessarily when people are in dire straits, but when they reign in their spending for fear their job may be next on the cutting block. Expenses may go up a bit, the belts get a bit tighter, which propagates to others. But even in good times, businesses try not to spend money frivolously anyhow. Besides, there are always going to be businesses and people that are surviving, even thriving during these times.

      But the low hanging fruit is gone and IT departments are just another big budget item that needs cutting. Particularly in the current cluster f***ed economy -- can you think of any software that would get you easier, indeed any, credit from the bank, or, software that would help you sell your latest high tech gizmo to someone who just lost thier job and is having thier mortgage foreclosed?

      What makes software and IT so special that it can be cut before everything else? Businesses of all types and sizes are more reliant on computers than ever before, and those needs don't disappear during a slow economy. Sure, you won't see an orgy of tech spending like during dot-com booms, but no company in their right minds would just axe their IT department any more than they'd eliminate their accounting department.

      Spending on sex, gambling and drugs goes up in hard times, but, the first two are a done deal as far a software is concerned and the third is in a market so free that the competition will kill you.

      Apparently, people also still tend to buy video games, lucky for me. Naturally, no industry is *completely* free of belt-tightening, but among my circle of friends and colleagues, the market appears to be reasonably stable. And our companies all purchase other software on a regular basis. The economy still works in lean times, just a little more slowly and a little less comfortably.

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    7. Re:On the contrary by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      Call the Department of Redundancy Department... copy and paste error. Whoops.

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    8. Re:On the contrary by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 3, Informative
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    9. Re:On the contrary by supersnail · · Score: 1

      In hard times companies dont axe thier IT departments they just kill new projects and purchasing. Given the abysmally slow software development cycle for most business projects this actually makes sense -- "I save $100,000 dollars now on something that might work in 2011.".

      Its pretty much the same in the consumer market - if you might lose your job next month that cluncky old Dell suddenly looks "good enough" and no new hardware - no new software.

      Your probably right about the games industry though!

      And it not just a case of unemployment shooting up to 10%, many of those in jobs will be earning less money -- low bonuses, low sales commisions, people lost a job but found another at a lower salary etc.

      Those people who did manage to earn as much or more than last year are reluctant to spend it and are preparing for the time when thier luck runs out.

      Another poster commented on how "business could save millions if they revisited thier old systems". Sorry but the running costs of an existing system will rarely be more than the software devlopment costs of "improvements". This is call "Business Process Re-engineering" in Bullshit and thier have been too many high profile failures in this area for this to be taken seriously by Business management.

      If developers had delivered more on time/on budget/fullfills requirments software during the good years these arguments might have some credibility -- but for the most part corporate america would rahter stick with the abd smell thay have gotten used to rather spend money on solething that could be worse.

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    10. Re:On the contrary by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      many of our customers are in a position where revisiting their IT systems and working practices around them will provide massive dividends.

      It won't provide any dividends now. It might in the future. It will cost money now.

      You may not have got the memo, but most businesses are short of money right now.

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    11. Re:On the contrary by owlnation · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The Great Depression was also the source of real rise of Hollywood. The current recession is hopefully a godsend to those of us who are filmmakers. Movies are a safer investment than property right now.

    12. Re:On the contrary by Bastard+of+Subhumani · · Score: 1

      Sort of like a forest fire, it opens up opportunities for startups and new things.

      They don't start growing until the ashes have cooled down, and I don't think the fire's out yet.

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    13. Re:On the contrary by gbjbaanb · · Score: 1

      In these hard times companies are also scrapping upgrades and new systems as well. I can;t quite believe it, but MS is (apparently) going to lay off 10% or so of its global workforce. Perhaps they finally realised how many of those microsofties do useful work, or they've decided to get rid of all the Raymond Chens now they only use .NET.

      Obviously if revenue is "disappointing", it can only mean companies are not buying more MS stuff, probably because what they have works (though MS is desperate to get everyone to upgrade), but also possibly because Linux is really making inroads in some areas.

      2009 could be the year things really changed for the IT software marketplace.

    14. Re:On the contrary by russotto · · Score: 2, Funny

      Movies are a safer investment than property right now.

      Yeah, but what isn't?

    15. Re:On the contrary by truthsearch · · Score: 1

      What makes software and IT so special that it can be cut before everything else? Businesses of all types and sizes are more reliant on computers than ever before, and those needs don't disappear during a slow economy.

      Logically, of course, this makes sense. But IT departments at most companies are seen as pure expense since they don't deliver any direct profit. Yes, they make the company more efficient and therefore help reduce cost, but it's all seen as long term and hard to quantify. Since it's looked at as pure expense it's usually the first department to get budget cuts. It's usually much harder to cut HR, accounting, sales, etc. than to cut long term software projects and systems upgrades.

    16. Re:On the contrary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The US unemployment rate is at,what, around 6.7 percent or so, or about one in every fifteen people?

      How can any cognitively sound person seriously believe government statistics anymore, especially the unemployment rate? It never ceases to amaze me how when confronted with "Who you gonna believe, the government or your lying eyes?" so many people doubt their own eyes.

      In fairness, the unemployment rate is notoriously difficult to calculate. But even a cursory look at how it is calculated can leave no doubt that all the assumptions made fall in favor of coming out with a low number. When you consider all the people who have fallen out of the system entirely and given up looking for (reported) work, the ones who technically have "full-time" jobs but can't get enough hours to support themselves, etc., the real unemployment rate is somewhere between 12 and 15 percent. A lot lower than 1 in 15 people.

      I'm sorry to take this out on the parent but it really bugs me when people sitting in their safe little employment foxholes never lift their heads to look around and consequently think that everyone else must be ok too. I work in a blue collar city in a prosperous northeastern state. I see good people every day who are only a few rungs above the walking dead and the ladder is getting more crowded every day. These bullshit exercises in trying to explain how everything really isn't that bad just piss me off. Especially since they always come from someone who hasn't missed a meal in 20 years.

    17. Re:On the contrary by DuckDodgers · · Score: 3, Informative

      The 6.7% unemployment figure does not factor people who have stopped looking for new work because they had no luck for over a year. And unfortunately, the market only makes that worse. "This applicant hasn't worked in 8 months. He must not be any good, let's just throw out his resume without even conducting a phone interview." The problem becomes self-perpetuating.

      The 6.7% figure also doesn't factor people who went from software analyst, machinist, or corporate accountant to janitor, grocery store cashier, or burger flipper. For that matter, it doesn't count people who went from full time at one company to part time at another.

      Depending upon the news source you trust, the real unemployment figure in the US is closer to 15%.

    18. Re:On the contrary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry but I cant think of a single company/brand/product that had its origins in the Great Depression.

      Its not a company/brand or product, but Alcoholics Anonymous was founded during the depression. (Yes, alcohol was still illegal in the US at the time).

    19. Re:On the contrary by maxume · · Score: 1

      Sandwiches.

      Also, General Motors.

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    20. Re:On the contrary by tknd · · Score: 1

      There's still opportunity for entertainment. That's probably why sex, gambling, and drugs goes up. The cheapest form of entertainment these days is either TV, movies, or video games. I'd say the entertainment industry will stay strong as people will have nothing better to do while looking for new jobs or waiting for interviews.

    21. Re:On the contrary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i've simply had it with the moderation on this site. ..or are we working on a 5/10 scale now? thanks

    22. Re:On the contrary by Arterion · · Score: 1

      ...can you think of any software that would get you easier, indeed any, credit from the bank, or, software that would help you sell your latest high tech gizmo to someone who just lost thier job and is having thier mortgage foreclosed?

      When you say, "hey, we can replace 100 people with software" it suddenly becomes more frugal to spend money on a couple developers than on 100 people. Often, business processes and business software (usually very tightly coupled) are much more inefficient than they could be. Hell, I work at a company of 20 folks, and I know for a fact I could rewrite our internal software so that 18 or 19 people could accomplish the same amount of work.

      When you have massively parallel tasks -- say 500 people all doing the same thing -- if you can rewrite your software to make them even 5% more productive, you'll only need 475 people do to the same work.

      The thing is, there WILL be layoffs, we've already seen it. But there is still work to be done. They're going to be looking for ways to still get the necessary work done, but with less people doing it. I think "better software" is going to be a common answer to that problem.

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    23. Re:On the contrary by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      Sorry but I cant think of a single company/brand/product that had its origins in the Great Depression.

      Hoover ;P

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    24. Re:On the contrary by glitch23 · · Score: 1

      Naturally, no industry is *completely* free of belt-tightening, but among my circle of friends and colleagues, the market appears to be reasonably stable.

      Medical, education and government sectors are still going strong and are usually immune to recessions. In the current one though, due to reasons I'm still puzzling over, many state governments are low on cash right now and are asking employees to stay home w/o pay for unknown periods of time. The federal government though hasn't told anyone to stay home w/o pay as far as I know. I'm a contractor for the federal government and haven't heard a peep regarding my job being in jeopardy.

      You also have to keep in mind that *most* people, even in this economy, are employed and still doing well. The US unemployment rate is at,what, around 6.7 percent or so, or about one in every fifteen people? Around 4 percent of the country is ALWAYS employed, generally due to some chronic issue (can't or won't work for some reason) or just due to normal between-job transitions. It sounds about right - I've been unemployed for about 5 percent of my career. It doesn't take much - a six month stretch in an otherwise employed 10 year career.

      People who don't want to work, don't qualify for unemployment, or who aren't currently looking do not count in the unemployment numbers. There may be other categories but I know those off the top of my head.

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    25. Re:On the contrary by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      Around 4 percent of the country is ALWAYS employed, generally due to some chronic issue (can't or won't work for some reason) or just due to normal between-job transitions.

      A person who can't or won't work for some reason, rather than one who is actively searching for work, is not counted in the headline unemployment rate at all; they are not considered part of the work force.

    26. Re:On the contrary by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      How can any cognitively sound person seriously believe government statistics anymore, especially the unemployment rate? It never ceases to amaze me how when confronted with "Who you gonna believe, the government or your lying eyes?" so many people doubt their own eyes.

      Exactly what am I supposed to see when I look around? Am I supposed to somehow turn news stories into percentages of unemployed people? Conduct my own poll? What formula did you use to arrive at your numbers? Ask your friends and family, and then extrapolate that to the whole of the United States?

      I'll concede a significant point, though: I should have stated these figures are typically calculated based on unemployment claims. The actual figure is undoubtedly higher, but the important point is not so much the actual percentage, so long as it's calculated in a consistent manner. This gives a solid baseline for which direction the jobless rate is moving in, and by how much.

      The numbers you quote seem pretty high to me (for instance, some people think prisoners should count towards unemployment), but I'd like to keep an open mind. Any studies to back that up?

      I'm sorry to take this out on the parent but it really bugs me when people sitting in their safe little employment foxholes never lift their heads to look around and consequently think that everyone else must be ok too.

      It's ok... I can take it. I understand that this is a touchy topic for people as well, since livelihoods are on the line. Let's look at what else I wrote:

      It sounds about right - I've been unemployed for about 5 percent of my career. It doesn't take much - a six month stretch in an otherwise employed 10 year career.

      I fudged the numbers a bit, I admit, in order to make the math work out nicely. I was unemployed closer to nine months (one year in length, with 3 months of contract work in the middle). And, this was just after I bought a house with a pretty hefty mortgage. In fact, I wouldn't have counted in the government statistics, because I didn't take any unemployment benefits (I started working on a book while looking for a job, and that paid a small amount, but certainly not enough to pay the mortgage). I ended up completely draining my bank account. If I hadn't found a job when I did, I would have had to sell my house in the next few months. So, please believe me, I know how frightening it can be to lose your job and not be able to find another.

      I work in a blue collar city in a prosperous northeastern state. I see good people every day who are only a few rungs above the walking dead and the ladder is getting more crowded every day. These bullshit exercises in trying to explain how everything really isn't that bad just piss me off.

      I think you really misinterpreted what I was trying to get at. My family's business is construction-related, and is dangerously close to going bankrupt after 30+ years in business. I would be careful about making assumptions about the personal lives of others. Yes, I happen to be extremely fortunate in that I'm not currently feeling the economic crunch right now too badly myself, but please don't think I don't see what's going on.

      But I'm still going to stand by my general position. I think it's just as detrimental to overstate the impact of a recession as it is to understate it. I'm not trying to say everything is roses, but despite everything that's happened, most people I know can still house themselves and put food on the table, and, while nervous about the state of the economy, are still employed or otherwise earning a living. Oh, and speaking of food...

      Especially since they always come from someone who hasn't missed a meal in 20 years.

      I haven't missed a meal in 20 years (because I couldn't afford it, which I assume was the silent

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    27. Re:On the contrary by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      many of our customers are in a position where revisiting their IT systems and working practices around them will provide massive dividends.

      It won't provide any dividends now. It might in the future. It will cost money now.

      You may not have got the memo, but most businesses are short of money right now.

      So obviously there's a great opportunity in providing free workers to those poor companies !
      I'll start kidnapping IT techs as soon as I'm done with the business plan !

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    28. Re:On the contrary by supersnail · · Score: 1

      Sandwiches -- circa 1750 lord Sandwich popularised the concept of a slice of meat between two slices of bread so he could eat while playing cards without getting the cards greasy.

      General Motors -- was an amalgamation of existing companies, significantly it still trades through the original brand names Chevrolet, Chrysler Cadillac etc.

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    29. Re:On the contrary by supersnail · · Score: 1

      Computing, Data Processing, IT whatever you call it has been deployed extensivly by corporate America since 1965.

      After 42 years of continuous development and employment all the easy stuff has been done! There are no "deploy this system and become 50% more efficient" opertunities any more.

      Worse niave IT people have consitantly overstated the benefits of IT and underestimated the costs so if you propose a 5% saveing through a new software any sensible business manager would think "I'll get 1% if Im lucky and it will probably be cancelled anyway so why take a risk!".

      The major (rational) reason for upgrading systems has been increases in volume and throughput which cannot be handled by the old system in a shrinking economy this isnt such an issue.
         

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    30. Re:On the contrary by supersnail · · Score: 1

      Sorry founded in 1908 by Susan Hoover the inventors cousin.

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    31. Re:On the contrary by PurplePhase · · Score: 1

      Around 4 percent of the country is ALWAYS employed, generally due to some chronic issue...

      I always knew it was detrimental to my health!

      8-PP

    32. Re:On the contrary by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      the current one though, due to reasons I'm still puzzling over, many state governments are low on cash right now and are asking employees to stay home w/o pay for unknown periods of time. The federal government though hasn't told anyone to stay home w/o pay as far as I know.

      The credit crisis means that it is harder and more expensive than normal for states to borrow money (for a number of reasons, their debt is seen as risky while federal debt is seen as essentially risk-free); the housing bust has blown a huge hole in property tax revenues, and the usual wage and spending effects of the recession have blown huge holes in consumption and income tax revenues, and most states have balanced budget provisions in their state constitutions which, even if they could afford to borrow money freely, make it much more difficult for them to do so quickly than it is for the federal government, which can borrow money essentially at will (at right now, at almost no cost.) Consequently, while the federal government is both increasing spending and looking at further spending increases along with tax cuts, hoping to stimulate the economy, states are working against the federal government's stimulus efforts by cutting spending and in some cases even discussing raising taxes to deal with the revenue situation.

    33. Re:On the contrary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The numbers you quote seem pretty high to me...but I'd like to keep an open mind. Any studies to back that up?

      There are a multitude of studies that are no doubt available on the web. An obvious one is the Bureau of Labor Statistics itself. While the "top line" number (the U3) is the one that always gets the publicity they also measure the one (the U6) that I and other were talking about. There is no shortage of economists who think this is really the important number. See this month's report.

      I'm not trying to say everything is roses, but despite everything that's happened, most people I know can still house themselves and put food on the table, and, while nervous about the state of the economy, are still employed or otherwise earning a living.

      That's equally true of everyone I know (or hang out with) and brings me back to my original point. We tend to move in circles of people who are like us and are in similar circumstances. But look around a bit beyond the circle. The signs (e.g. food banks begging for food almost weekly now) are all around.

  2. Prediction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    is very difficult, especially of the future.

    1. Re:Prediction by gzipped_tar · · Score: 1

      Then do something less difficult instead.

      Who controls the present controls the future. Who controls the past controls the present.

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    2. Re:Prediction by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      And still, postdiction of the future is quite harder, as it requires to move the point of reference ahead in time to a point beyond the future. And no matter how far ahead you push that bloody point, it seems to stubornly stay in the future rather than beyond it.

      We've since experimented with some very succesful methods of predicting the past; most of which involve burying our predictions in a hole and then taking them out the next week.

      Dr. Franhoffer was able to predict last week's lottery first prize number but for some reason we've been unable to secure one of the winning tickets for a reasonable price.

    3. Re:Prediction by freddy_dreddy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      By controlling the past, one means controlling education in history - omitting certain historic events and highlighting others.

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    4. Re:Prediction by mrthoughtful · · Score: 1

      Actually, prediction is not necessarily difficult. Just interesting prediction is difficult.

      Take a normal 6-sided dice. I can precisely predict what you will throw. You will throw a number that is between 1 and 6.

      See? It's just not very interesting.

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    5. Re:Prediction by mrthoughtful · · Score: 1

      ..and possibly, the MORE interesting it is, the MORE difficult it is. (hmm there may be a Phd buried in that)

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    6. Re:Prediction by goose-incarnated · · Score: 1

      Yup, I always reply to my coffee first. If it makes sense to a cup of coffee, chances are it may make sense to the marginally more sentient modder who reads my post :-)

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    7. Re:Prediction by coaxial · · Score: 0

      That's not true at all... or do the Romans still control everything and I just don't know it?

      The Roman Catholic church.
      The European Common Market was created by the Treaty of Rome
      Audrey Hepburn stared in "Roman Holiday".
      ESPN gave Jim Rome his own show, "Rome is Burning".
      Roman Polanski is a famous director and fugitive.

      Do I have to spell it out for you?

    8. Re:Prediction by freddy_dreddy · · Score: 1

      all this talk of coffee makes me crave for a cup. Unfortunately I've already had my first dose of nicotine, so I'll poop funny again.

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    9. Re:Prediction by freddy_dreddy · · Score: 1

      don't - it gives people like me something to add

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    10. Re:Prediction by codeButcher · · Score: 1

      Do I have to spell it out for you?

      ... and you'll probably use the Roman alphabet for that spelling too.

      (At least we don't use their numbering system any more....)

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    11. Re:Prediction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure, if Claude Shannon hadn't already done it 50 years ago.

    12. Re:Prediction by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      Actually, the person who writes the minutes of the meeting controls pretty much everything, past present and future. Remember that next time you're in a meeting, and people look around longing for someone to step up and volunteer...

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    13. Re:Prediction by coaxial · · Score: 1

      Or do we? *cough* Super Bowl XLIII ?

    14. Re:Prediction by codeButcher · · Score: 1

      Hehehe, you're right, but at least I'm not from the USA. Where I'm from, the major sports events (yeah I had to google....) are numbered by the year - even when some people here rank their importance on par with the world wars.

      I suppose one can haggle about numbering of rulers and popes, copyright years in movies, paragraph numbering, clock faces, oxidation numbers in chemistry, and even the inclusion of the glyphs in Unicode. I claim that the exceptions prove the rule, and that's the story I stick to :-)

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  3. Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    These include further struggles from Microsoft in retooling its image, a more open source mindset for Java, twilight for Sun, the Web as platform of choice, [...]

    Wow, bold predictions indeed! Here's one of my own: there'll be trouble in the middle east.

    Do you think it might come true?

    1. Re:Wow! by polar+red · · Score: 1

      there'll be trouble in the middle east.

      that's more than 500 deaths in a week. (if you consider population, that would mean 100000 US citizens, so yeah, reaction will come) I foresee another 50 years of 'disagreements'

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    2. Re:Wow! by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I foresee another 50 years of 'disagreements'

      You're an optimist.

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  4. To be released by Gustavo+the+Aardvark · · Score: 1

    Duke Nukem Forever is expected to be released this year, and... oh, wait. You said 2009 ? Sorry, I thought it was 2090.

    1. Re:To be released by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      You seem to forget this not only is the year of Duke Nukem Forever on Linux but also the year of death of pc gaming.

      Which should leave you wondering: how bad will Linux DNF be to single handedly kill pc gaming?

  5. 2009 by mrthoughtful · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hm. How about this:
    (1) The majorty of humanity will carry on buying OEM MS operating systems
    (2) Apple will produce something sleek, shiny, and expensive
    (3) Linux users will think that 2009 will be when Linux will move (at last) into the mainstream userbase. They will be wrong.
    (4) The majority of humanity will carry on using Internet Explorer, which will continue to annoy every web developer who doesn't have a MS qualification.
    (5) Sun will trudge on.
    (6) Cloud computing will still be used by academics and hackers.
    (7) Java will continue to have it's mixture of fans and foes. But not much else.
    (8) Same goes for BEA, etc.
    (9) Innovation will happen in ways that you least expect.
    (10) Oh - that year went by so fast.
    (11) But now I am out of a job because the banks took my money and made a profit, then made a loss and took my money again.

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    1. Re:2009 by Nursie · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Linux went mainstream years ago, just not on the Desktop. A hell of a lot of companies use Linux for serving pretty much everything.

    2. Re:2009 by mrthoughtful · · Score: 1

      Oops - you are right. I missed out the word Desktop, even though I was thinking of it when I wrote that

      Should read

      (3) Linux users will think that 2009 will be when Linux will move (at last) into the mainstream desktop userbase. They will be wrong.

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    3. Re:2009 by Eivind · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Probably most of these will be true, it's hardly surprising that mostly the world continues as it has.

      The IE-thing though, I see sligthly differently. It's true that most people use IE. But it is also true that IE has seen a steady decline the last 2 years. Like you, I think the trends will continue much as they are, but that still means a continous downwards trend.

      For the websites we run at work (I work for a web-development company that carries the websites of around 1500 norwegian companies, including a dozen of the larger ones) 2 years ago we saw 80% IE on average (more on grandma-type websites, less on technical ones), one year ago it was at about 73%, and now in december it was at 65%.

      I don't care much about IE, but I do care about healthy competition. My ideal world would have no single browser above 50%. That's the best guarantee that people will not develop exclusively for ONE browser.

    4. Re:2009 by wisty · · Score: 5, Funny

      (12) Lispers will remain quietly smug. Except Paul Graham, who will be vocally smug.
      (13) Pythoneers will remain vocally smug, except Guido who is busy doing real work.
      (14) Open source software development remain 5 years ahead of Microsofts, except for the GUI, which lags by a decade.
      (15) Someone will write a new distributed version control system.
      (16) New web frameworks are written in Python (x3), Ruby (x2) and Cobol. Database work is still difficult.
      (17) .net is upgraded to another version. Nobody had figured out what the previous version did.
      (18) Scrum get's a new acronym, to the disgust of its advocates.
      (19) Outside of a select few programmers and /.ers, nobody in the real world cares.

    5. Re:2009 by Toreo+asesino · · Score: 1

      One strong-hold of IE has and probably always will be the corporate desktop, simply because it can be configured on the AD from factory install. That means basically that admins can lock it down (No ActiveX, no Javascript on Internet sites, etc) without needing any extra config or installations.

      FireFox I know can be managed this way too, but as a general rule, 3rd-party browsers have never had too much support for enterprise manageability from the get-go.

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    6. Re:2009 by wisty · · Score: 1

      ... and I just lost my apostrophe license.

    7. Re:2009 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Java sucks!

    8. Re:2009 by Peron · · Score: 1

      (4) The majority of humanity will carry on using Internet Explorer, which will continue to annoy every web developer who doesn't have a MS qualification.

      The majority of humanity (78.1%), aren't on the internet, and thus does not use a web browser at all. I guess this will also be true when 2009 ends.

    9. Re:2009 by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 1
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    10. Re:2009 by WindBourne · · Score: 1

      Funny thing is that in 1999, companies were claiming that Linux would NEVER go mainstream anything. I recall one of the assessment that said that Linux in 2005 would amount 2-3% of internet servers and would be less than 1% of the server room by 2004.

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    11. Re:2009 by Dave+Tucker+Online · · Score: 1

      I don't think IE will go away until such point as alternate browsers come preloaded on new machines. It seems a majority of users only use the software that was installed when they bought it.

    12. Re:2009 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Less change happens then you expect in a year, but more change then you expect happens in ten years.

    13. Re:2009 by Atrox666 · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod points.
      That hits the nail on the head.

    14. Re:2009 by Seth+Kriticos · · Score: 0
      Basically I agree to you except for the GUI thing. Did you see a well configured Compiz on potent hardware lately?

      (14.a) As shiny and powerful it may be, you will still have a hard time to find sane documentation for GUI's in Linux.

      That would be an argument. Also:

      (20) Vendor lock-in and lack of thinking will keep Win OS where it is.
      (21) Linux keeps being difficult to figure out for technically not inclined people, and thy won't even get the idea to try.
      (22) Games will keep the majority of the rest with the OS.

    15. Re:2009 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (16) New web frameworks are written in Python (x3), Ruby (x2) and Cobol. Database work is still difficult.

      I'm writing one in Perl!

    16. Re:2009 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having a flashy or powerful GUI does not address the actual concerns with the GUI interfaces available for Linux. GNUStep is about the most consistent, but shockingly ugly.

    17. Re:2009 by Meski · · Score: 1

      One strong-hold of IE has and probably always will be the corporate desktop, simply because it can be configured on the AD from factory install. That means basically that admins can lock it down (No ActiveX,

      I *wish* our corporate powers that be would make it "No activeX" - it'd stop other areas of the corp from foisting internal ActiveX apps on us.

    18. Re:2009 by Eivind · · Score: 1

      I don't think they'll "go away" either, but honestly I don't care.

      When one browser has 80-90% market-share, it becomes the benchmark. If something works on it, but not in the others, the others will be seen as having a fault, even if it's the others who are conforming to specs.

      When a browser has 40% market-share, everyone is able to comprehend that developing stuff in a manner that works only on this single browser would be a major blunder. And if something fails to work in it, but works with the other 60% of market-share, the fault will be placed where it belongs.

      It's no goal to had IE eliminated, competition is healthy.

      But it IS a goal to have healthy thriving competition, where no single browser dominates to the degree that people stop caring about compatibility with standards. It was like that for a while; "IE is the de-facto standard anyway", people where saying. They're saying it less these days, and that's a good thing.

    19. Re:2009 by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      The majority of humanity will carry on using Internet Explorer, which will continue to annoy every web developer who doesn't have a MS qualification.

      I have an MS certification, and it annoys me, you insensitive clod!

    20. Re:2009 by BlueBoxSW.com · · Score: 1

      Hey VonNeuman, are you saying the best predictor of the future is the present? :-)

    21. Re:2009 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Scrum is not an acronym.

    22. Re:2009 by drachir555 · · Score: 1

      (20) The Obama administration will bail-out Google. (21) Alternative energy will finally work its way into this country's energy grid. (22) More and more people will begin riding bicycles to work. (23) People will lose weight, and improve their diets. (24) Apple will launch another shiny new toy, but only the very rich will want to buy it. (25) It will be 2010 before we pull out of this recession, because the Bush administration f$@#-ed us over so bad.

    23. Re:2009 by dedazo · · Score: 1

      There is a large segment of people you simply will not convert to alternative browsers. These you'll be lucky they at least upgrade IE, so in many ways IE8 is the only chance for having a majority of people using a standards-compliant browser.

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    24. Re:2009 by Eivind · · Score: 1

      True that. So those people will only "convert" the day they buy a new computer -- and the new computer comes pre-installed with something other than IE.

      And -that- again is only likely to happen when MS loses the market-dominance on the desktop, which is certainly further out than them losing the browser-dominance. (I see about 33% non-IE, however I see only about 5% non-windows in my logs)

  6. Money != innovation by Kotten · · Score: 2

    'When customers aren't buying, tool vendors don't innovate ...'

    Innovation comes from creativity and possibility(time) to implement it. I do not believe you can buy innovation or that the creative minds stop innovate just because it is an economic downturn.

    Besides, during the downturns it is usually higher pressure to create new (innovative) products, at least on my workplace.

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    1. Re:Money != innovation by Nursie · · Score: 1

      "Innovation comes from creativity and possibility(time) to implement it. I do not believe you can buy innovation or that the creative minds stop innovate just because it is an economic downturn."

      Add money to the first bit. Innovative minds might not stop due to a downturn, but they may stop being paid, and not all innovative/creative folks are the types to do it in their spare time. A lot are (vis. FOSS), but by no means all.

    2. Re:Money != innovation by Haeleth · · Score: 1

      'When customers aren't buying, tool vendors don't innovate ...'

      Innovation comes from creativity and possibility(time) to implement it. I do not believe you can buy innovation or that the creative minds stop innovate just because it is an economic downturn.

      I think you're talking at cross-purposes here.

      You're using "innovation" in the sense of "coming up with novel and creative ideas". TFA seems to be using it in the Microsoft sense of "selling you another version with yet more bloat".

  7. Innovation is bad times by N1AK · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although the article may be correct that historically innovation died away during financially poor times I do wonder whether this will continue to be the case.

    Everything in life has a cost, why look into the minor ones when your rolling in so much cash it doesn't matter? What may happen is that although less money is spent on new research and developement, some of the better products already developed become more widely deployed as people realise they need to do things better.

    From a personal perspective I have spent a lot more time looking at my finances in the last 12 months, exactly because as I earn more than I spend I (incorrectly) didn't bother in the past. I'm argueable better off now than last year exactly because of the financial crisis.

    For an economy the failure of some ineffective businesses allows others to fill the niche, it encourages people to question suppliers while looking for economies.

    None of this makes the recession a good thing, and I'd argue that a lot of our goverment's (in the UK) actions will cause more problems than they solve, but I hope the innovators of the world don't believe that now isn't as good a time as any to find improvements.

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  9. western first world is rock by alabandit · · Score: 0

    just because the western first world is on the rocks rosen mean the world is sinking.

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  10. huh? by holywarrior21c · · Score: 1

    Of course everyone knows that it will be the year of the linux. so, everybody is busy programming linux, no?

    1. Re:huh? by freddy_dreddy · · Score: 2, Funny

      2009 will be the year of Linux, enveloped in another decade of Microsoft.

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  11. Innovation for market creation by stiller · · Score: 2, Insightful

    'When customers aren't buying, tool vendors don't innovate"

    Innovation does not only service existing markets, it creates new ones, too. Think about Nintendo (Wii) and Apple (iPhone) for instance, who consistently create new markets that weren't there before. In a stagnating market, innovation is more important than ever.

    1. Re:Innovation for market creation by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 1

      'When customers aren't buying, tool vendors don't innovate"

      Innovation does not only service existing markets, it creates new ones, too. Think about Nintendo (Wii) and Apple (iPhone) for instance, who consistently create new markets that weren't there before. In a stagnating market, innovation is more important than ever.

      Agreed. To put it another way, problems require solutions. Solutions sometimes require innovation.

      We're facing problems now where the solutions we've been using aren't cutting it, and are perhaps even the cause of the problems. Therefore, I expect to see a LOT of innovation in the next few years.

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  12. I agree. by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Tightening spending means businesses will be less willing to "experiment" with new ideas.

    ASIDE:

    On innovative idea that looks doomed is uncensored radio via satellite : Sirius-XM are on the verge of disappearing. A bad economy kills more good ideas than it creates. The arrival of the 1930s Depression eliminated most of the car companies, leaving behind an industry consolidated into just a few juggernauts. Expect the same thing to happen in 2009-2010 for our modern industries.

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  13. New Web Server by secondhand_Buddah · · Score: 1

    How about a new web server that can parse correct/compliant HTML for the myriad of different browsers on the market...

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    1. Re:New Web Server by Forty+Two+Tenfold · · Score: 1

      How about a HTMLTidy module to the existing servers?
      http://tidy.sourceforge.net/

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    2. Re:New Web Server by Xenolith0 · · Score: 1

      Something like this, perhaps? http://browsershots.org/

    3. Re:New Web Server by secondhand_Buddah · · Score: 1

      Nice site. I didn't really express myself correctly. What I really meant to say was that a web server that could take source HTML and parse it to be compliant with the client browser on the fly would be a boon us poor developers who currently spend waaayyy too much time trying to make HTML work in different browsers. We could simply write once, and the Web Server would be intelligent enough to serve compliant HTML.
      Something like this could probably be implemented as a plugin for Apache, although I haven't spent any time researching this...

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    4. Re:New Web Server by secondhand_Buddah · · Score: 1

      Very nice tool. The thing is, WC3 compliance does not guarantee that your HTML will be able to be viewed in most/all browsers. Its easy to pass the buck and say that browser developers should sort their shit out, but the reality is that they haven't.
      What I am proposing is a web-server plugin that will generate HTML that will be able to be parsed by the client browser according to the design, irrespective of what it is - basically a babelfish for a web server.
      The purpose of this plugin/web server would be to seriously remove the current major headache from the otherwise enjoyable pastime of web development.

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  14. When times are tough you're forced to make do by AnalPerfume · · Score: 1

    When you have more money than sense do you care that your car is going through fuel a jumbo jet would be proud of? When you suddenly have a lot less money that gas guzzler is now a source of your problems. You still need the transport, so you need to get much more bang for your buck.

    In that example you'd be unlikely to be able to do much to that car, but companies will have to innovate to put more economic cars on the courts to tempt you to buy.....well, unless you're Ford in the US, in that case you stick your head in the sand, ignore all the signs and keep pumping out gas guzzlers that nobody wants.....then take your private jet into Washington for a government hand out. When fuel was cheap Ford had no reason to innovate, they could continue with the same old, same old. When it becomes an issue, Ford are caught with their pants down and are miles behind the competition and a mountain to climb.....which costs money.....money tied up in cars on forecourts that nobody wants to buy.

    When you can't afford to buy new stuff that the advertisers claim you need, you have to make do with what you have, get more out of it. In many cases you find that new feature of that new product, whodathunkit? You don't need it anyway. Your secretary does not need a quad-core super computer to type up some letters and do some email, despite what Microsoft would like you to believe. The longer money is tight, this plays increasingly into OSS hands. Microsoft won't be going away anytime soon but it will make life much more difficult for them.

    Look back a couple of generations (depending on your age) at those people living in the first half of the 20th Century. Between 2 world wars and a depression. Absolutely NO disposable income at all. NO money for anything not absolutely essential to living. Women especially were great at making the household budget stretch further than it had any rights to. They didn't do this buy doing the same things as before, they innovated, and passed ideas to each other. These are the people who mostly would save up to buy things in cash, they'd save in banks and see credit as a last resort.

    Innovation will continue despite the credit crunch, but investment in it as a means to make money will be much harder to come by. People who see it as an earner will be more conservative. People who want to create something better for their own (or society in general) use will continue to do so although they may be more limited in their contributions due to not having as much spare time etc.

  15. "The End of the Financial World As We Know It" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/04/opinion/04lewiseinhornb.html

    we never 'knew' it anyway. there's nothing mentioned about software, or the real value of anything. just more&more felonious greed/fear/ego based behaviours. better days ahead.

    1. Re: "The End of the Financial World As We Know It" by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Quoth the NYT article:

      Another good solution to the too-big-to-fail problem is to break up any institution that becomes too big to fail.

      Methinks this might be relevant to institutions in other, non-financial realms.

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    2. Re: "The End of the Financial World As We Know It" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as in softwar, (lack of) communications, food etc... in the near future, we'll be hearing of robber barons in the water 'trade'.

      he who controls the trade routes.....

  16. Internet Inflection Point by broward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Internet has entered a long-term inflection point.

    http://www.realmeme.com/roller/page/realmeme?entry=internet_inflection_point_microsoft

    Network traffic for many major sites began shrinking or slowing in growth 1-2 years ago.
    The negative growth in e-commerce sales was not an anomaly.

    1. Re:Internet Inflection Point by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      But a lot of that is web 2.0 traffic, you can't compare the two. It's like how diesel gets you more miles per gallon. Or something.

      Oh, and please buy a new computer, everybody. Pleeeeaaaaaase!

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    2. Re:Internet Inflection Point by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      The negative growth in e-commerce sales was not an anomaly.

      Seriously... what the hell does that even mean?!

    3. Re:Internet Inflection Point by greenguy · · Score: 1

      The Internet has entered a long-term inflection point.

      So, it's now Internét?

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    4. Re:Internet Inflection Point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Say for argument diesel gets %50 better mpg. Around here, Gas is $1.70 and Diesel is $3.16. Still does not compute with purchasing a new vehicle (currently though)

    5. Re:Internet Inflection Point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why don't you move?

    6. Re:Internet Inflection Point by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 1

      It's PHB code for "decline".

    7. Re:Internet Inflection Point by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Heck no! Let 'em bring their old machines to "handy hairy and his house of PC repair" where I'll make it purr like an overfed kitten. You notice how when the economy is going good everyone says "Why repair when you can just get a new one?" but boy doesn't that tune change when money gets tight and credit gets scarce. Besides, as much as Intel, AMD, and MSFT hate to admit it, anything over a 2.2GHz P4 with a gig of RAM is frankly overkill for most home users. Better to fix it and keep that extra green in your pocket. Of course fixing it helps put a little green in MY pocket too, so it is a win/win!

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    8. Re:Internet Inflection Point by treeves · · Score: 1

      The real question is: what is a "long-term point"?

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  18. In fact by WindBourne · · Score: 1

    Back in 92-93 Bush recession, was when Windows and networking really caught on to take on the high costs of the mainframe. Killed IBM for 5 long years. Prior to that, Windows was languashing around and not catching on. It was mostly dumb terminals. As this Bush's recession or even depression happens, I think that we will see companies push to lower their costs a great deal. Moving jobs to other countries is starting to backfire on these companies, while for others, it is not a possibility. Instead, we will see new low costs "ideas" become available and suddenly take over.

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  19. We get to make predictions? Okay by SockPuppet_9_5 · · Score: 1

    Input devices and their software take a step forward. Specifically, improvement in voice recognition, and mouse gesturing/Wii controller applications. No killer ap implied here.

    Free software expansion continues, as Intuit finds competition for Quicken in the home and small business marketplace from low cost/free alternatives.

    Everyone waits for the hardware of cellphones to catch up to better software for phones, so a prediction here is for no huge leap for cellphone software. Windows Mobile 7 doesn't bowl over anyone. Jostling for position as to the #1 seller of phones isn't important because most of the software advances has to do with the phone/web interface, and the extra charges for web access is reaching its peak in many markets.

    New rootkits for Windows, and separately, one for a select few versions of Linux.
    Linux users will promptly declare that there's no such thing as a true rootkit for Linux and blame lax password procedures for their problems as well as lack of dates on Friday night.

  20. sorry, just saw the first page by Beer-o-clock · · Score: 1

    and it had Sun - Twilight... seems rather apt - however much i wish sun every success for the future... :(

    1. Re:sorry, just saw the first page by davecb · · Score: 1

      I liked that too, but I actually expect Sun to keep on selling hardware. I was just on a benchmark for something like four mainframe-sized M9000s and a dozen or so M5000s, so some folks are happily buying their products.

      I'm a performance/capacity guy, so most of my business comes from big companies who buy Solaris, AIX and HP/UX boxes.

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  21. Exactly by JoeCommodore · · Score: 1

    If there are no sales most companies don't sit on their hands and cry, well maybe the really big ones do - to the feds. Smaller ones just start rolling out some new ideas to see if they can drum up a new market. What's not innovative about that?

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  22. new ideas will flourish by TRRosen · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just not from big companies. He forgot about all the downsized programers that now have the time to work on there own Ideas and projects. Software startups don't need capital just programers with time on there hands.

    1. Re:new ideas will flourish by Skadet · · Score: 1

      Ridiculous. Time isn't free -- those programmers need to eat/pay rent/feed their families/etc.

      And the word you're looking for is "their".

    2. Re:new ideas will flourish by dedazo · · Score: 1

      I don't think being unemployed and unable to pay the rent of feed your family have a positive influence on creativity.

      Beyond the college student "-1, Thinking About It" SourceForge project phase, real (useful) software development has to involve money at some point. There will definitely be less of that in the next few years.

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    3. Re:new ideas will flourish by TRRosen · · Score: 1

      I don't think being unemployed and unable to pay the rent of feed your family have a positive influence on creativity.

      Well If that stuff can't motivate you, you should just go deep throat a 9MM.

      The point is that the harder the times the harder people will work and the bigger chances they will take. (just the opposite of what big companies will do.)

    4. Re:new ideas will flourish by dedazo · · Score: 1

      Well If that stuff can't motivate you, you should just go deep throat a 9MM.

      It will motivate me, but not in the sense that I'll sit down on the computer to think up the next big IM application while I get my power disconnected for lack of payment. It will motivate me to go out and sell fruit or wash cars or shovel coal. It will motivate me in many ways, most of which likely won't involve writing software.

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    5. Re:new ideas will flourish by TRRosen · · Score: 1

      well if your not a programer why would you. If you are a programmer its exactly what you do. If its what your good at and what you do its what you will turn to when your backs to the wall.

    6. Re:new ideas will flourish by dedazo · · Score: 1

      There are only so many ways I can make a quick buck as a software developer. There are lots of other ways I can make a quick buck that don't involve software development. And I have other skills.

      Making a quick buck is important when you're unemployed, even if parallel to that you're still doing contract SW or whatever. Software development is a bit like investment - it takes time for the money to start rolling in. If you have enough savings or a way to support yourself and/or your family then that might be a good alternative.

      Let me give you an example. A girl that used to subcontract for me took a job as a senior dev at a company last year. Great gig, good pay and benefits. She got the shaft in November. Her fiance is still in school, and she was supporting him. Now he's had to drop classes and take a part-time job at a Lowe's or something like that, and she's working sales for her dad's construction company.

      This is an extremely talented and creative developer, one of the best I've worked with. Young and full of energy. Even makes me feel old. But what is she supposed to do? Sit at her computer all day working on some app while her electricity, internet and heat get disconnected? She has rent to pay, debts to service. It's not as simple as you make it out to be, and even more complicated when you're talking about a family rather than just two kids who can eat ramen if necessary.

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  23. looking good by speedtux · · Score: 1

    thats assuming the rotten trees get burned and leave space for fresh younglings

    Microsoft has layoffs and Sun is in trouble; seems like a good start to me.

  24. science and the Great Depression by speedtux · · Score: 1

    Sorry but I cant think of a single company/brand/product that had its origins in the Great Depression.

    But the Great Depression was scientifically very productive.

    In fact, a poor economy and lots of government spending means that the smartest minds can focus on basic issues, rather than trying to figure out how to beat people in business or tweak a product a little.

  25. In 2009... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    (1) Microsoft will become bankrupt
    (2) We wouldn't want them to go away, so they will get a bailout
    (3) Microsoft will continue to make inferior products, buggy software, and insecure stuff
    (4) People won't realize that there is anything else
    (5) Companies might move away from MS Office
    (6) IT people will get fired
    (7) The world will continue on the same track it has always gone on.

    I hate how at the end to the year, we have to endure all of these "Best Thing of 2008", "Worst thing of 2008", "Best Thing of 2009", "Worst Thing of 2009"

  26. investment banker on slashdot!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    go now before we draw our sabers...

  27. the new markets are coming.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wait and watch.

  28. What news source reports 15% unemployment? by howardd21 · · Score: 1

    That number seems very high. Where did you see that?

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