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Researcher Says Social Networks Link Terrorists

An anonymous reader writes "At the International Conference on Cyber Security 2009 in New York, Evan Kohlmann, a senior investigator and private consultant for Global Terror Alert, claimed that a new breed of terrorists are using online forums to recruit people who align themselves with the mission of Al Qaeda, creating global networks of would-be terrorists."

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  1. FUD by Spazztastic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just another article stating FUD. Nothing to see here, move along. Might as well also get rid of online forums, USENET, and telephones.

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    1. Re:FUD by noundi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And paper, morse code, whistles, Microsoft Sam...

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    2. Re:FUD by phagstrom · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Also ink - people always forget about the ink. Used by terrorists for recruitment and plotting attacks. When will the madness end and ink be banned.

    3. Re:FUD by the_fat_kid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      oh, you can count on the USENET getting the FUD cannon.
      Where do you think the terrorists get their kiddie porn.

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    4. Re:FUD by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Don't forget e-mail! And cellphones! The 9/11 hijackers used e-mail and cellphones to communicate! I hear some cellphones can do both. Does that mean that the Blackberry is the epitome of all evil?

    5. Re:FUD by javilon · · Score: 4, Funny

      And bananas, terrorists eat bananas too.

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    6. Re:FUD by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You could even get rid of photobucket or craigs list.

      If I was a real deal terrorist I'd start putting messages in images. "For sale: " each with a different message, all embedded with text or encrypted text.

    7. Re:FUD by jellomizer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I can't think of any technology that can't be twisted and turned towards aiding evil.

      OMG stop making penicillin as it could be given to a terrorist to make him healthy enough to be able to bomb his next target, where before he may have died from his illness.

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    8. Re:FUD by b4upoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've done a lot of sales in my life. But I can't even begin to understand how difficult it must be to convince some idiot to blow himself up with the notion of virgins in paradise etc..
                On the other hand I can't think of a better thing to do with a radical Moslem than strapping bombs to them and blowing them up.

    9. Re:FUD by davester666 · · Score: 3, Funny

      You know, all these terrorist organizations would have a lot more trouble communicating if we just stopped teaching children how to communicate.

      Of course, this might make them behave in a more feral-like fashion, but it's a small price to pay to help fight terrorism.

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  2. Quick! Stop all forms of communication! by Thanshin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've heard that terrorists also speak to people to recruit new members!

    We should stop right now the use of language.

    1. Re:Quick! Stop all forms of communication! by dkleinsc · · Score: 4, Funny

      We don't need anything that drastic. We just need to ensure that people can't communicate with each other effectively. I suggest having everyone make up their own language.

      Seen nablag orggash, neeble whorp flarq.

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    2. Re:Quick! Stop all forms of communication! by noundi · · Score: 3, Funny

      My mom was flarqed by a neeble whorp, you insensitive clod!

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    3. Re:Quick! Stop all forms of communication! by cephah · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Jeg er dansker, din ubehÃvlede tumpe!

    4. Re:Quick! Stop all forms of communication! by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Funny

      No need to make up one. We just need to find a language that the terrorists hate so much that they refuse to communicate in it. Obviously, their hatred of Americans isn't strong enough to make English that language. Who do they hate more than Americans? Jews! (And I say that as one.) Hebrew might be too obvious, so I propose that we all speak Yiddish from now on. Plus, Yiddish has the best curses. About Bin Laden: Ale tseyn zoln bay im aroysfaln, not eyner zol im blaybn oyf tsonveytung. And furthermore: Migulgl zol er vern in a henglayhter, by tog zol er hengen, un bay nakht zol er brenen.

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    5. Re:Quick! Stop all forms of communication! by The+Ultimate+Fartkno · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Allahu akbork?"

    6. Re:Quick! Stop all forms of communication! by apathy+maybe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Dra åt helvete, jag hatar dig.

      (For those not in the know, the Danes once controlled most of Scandinavia. And they must never forget that they were once an imperialist power. They must therefore tread softly when talking to other people. Even though it was years and years ago. It still counts. Bloody imperialists. (I'm not making this up, there is still a guilt complex among some Danes about this.))

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    7. Re:Quick! Stop all forms of communication! by pak9rabid · · Score: 3, Funny

      Jeg er dansker, din ubehÃvlede tumpe!

      Allow me to translate this into a language us Americans can understand:

      Derka derka, Muhammad jihad!

    8. Re:Quick! Stop all forms of communication! by NevarMore · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe things would get very quiet in the Middle East if you chose Pig Latin instead of Yiddish.

    9. Re:Quick! Stop all forms of communication! by ralph_the_wonder_lla · · Score: 2, Insightful

      BTW I am not a Muslim. I am an atheist, and I know that nearly all religions have been used to justify terrible crimes.

      Hmmm. Lets take a long hard look at the crimes against humanity commited by atheists, shall we?

      Ten million Ukrainians killed by Stalin in the farm collectivization. Six million Jews by Hitler and two to three million Cambodians by Pol Pot. This is a very short list from the 20th century.

      This history books on the library shelves don't do any good unless you read them.

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    10. Re:Quick! Stop all forms of communication! by Rycross · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Obedience to authority and submission are pretty much human traits, and I don't think you'll ever get rid of them. Check out the Milgram experiments.

    11. Re:Quick! Stop all forms of communication! by REALMAN · · Score: 2, Funny

      Use Pig Latin...you know how they hate that pork.

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  3. Oh come on... by tygerstripes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How many stories like this do we have to read? When will the internets finally be recognised as a medium rather than an entity?

    As soon as government agencies begin to properly recognise this fact, they will be able to operate within the medium, making use of its strengths and weaknesses, instead of fearing it the whole damned time. Did it never occur that social networking sites offer an excellent means of infiltrating "would-be terrorist" networks? Anonymity works both ways.

    Just my 0.02.

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    1. Re:Oh come on... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "How many stories like this do we have to read?"

      They will keep repeating this until it has become public opinion. Then probably start monitoring social networks or ban 'm outright.

    2. Re:Oh come on... by ciderVisor · · Score: 2, Funny

      When will the internets finally be recognised as a series of medium-sized tubes ?

      Fixed that for ya.

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    3. Re:Oh come on... by DrLang21 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      When the public is scared, it's easy to justify spending on security, etc. Where does a lot of that money end up going? To consultants. And guess who wrote the TFA?

      This is the single most insightful comment on this post. I really need to get in on consulting work.

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  4. The Late, Great Zarkman Was Not Impressed by aquatone282 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Zarkman was not impressed with the quality of recruits and supporters garnered through the interwebs. . .

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  5. Re:Red herring by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    You are giving people too much credit.

    we hear about it time and time again in all different aspects of life.

    Sure, there might be some smart ones who try to slip under the radar, but most just don't have the technical ability to manage a secure network let alone use technical security methods.

    do terrorist organisations have their own helpdesk?

    "Hello Dell support, how can I help?"
    "I can't get my warhead armed."
    "Have you tried turning it off and back on again?"

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  6. Furthermore by SupremoMan · · Score: 2, Funny

    It was also announced at the International Conference of Asshats (Those with heads in ass) that today's terrorists may also link using 2 tin cans and a piece of string!

  7. Other links by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The networks also link the exact same people to well adjusted, middle aged Caucasians.

    Weirdly enough, this positive influence doesn't seem to be mentioned in the study.

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  8. Same ol' FUD by var-tec · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There was a FUD about terrorist using PGP, there was FUD about terrorist using cell phones, there was even FUD about terrorist using Skype to communicate.

    Anyways, what's the fuss? Terrorist on Facebook? Police should cheer, it'll be a lot easier for them to infiltrate these groups and identify their members.

  9. How convenient by cruachan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So the jist of this article is several semi-permanent chatrooms have been identified where proto-terrorists gather to recruit and discuss strategy, and they want to take these down??!!!

    That's perverse. Why on earth would you want to take out honeypots that your foes are kind enough to set up for you?

    1. Re:How convenient by bentcd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I would think a law protecting websites from civil liability with such sites and encouraging them to permit them would do more for intelligence gathering than a dozen agents in the field could ever dream of doing.

      The West apparently stopped doing intelligence work some time between 1991 and 2001. Your suggestion is therefore completely unworkable. Repost your idea in Mandarin, perhaps someone will actually pick it up :-)

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  10. Ooh the hilarities we sadly never will know about by TheP4st · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This made me visualize not X number of terrorists planning attacks and recruiting in these chatrooms, but X number of spooks gathering info on another in the belief that the other spooks are the real thing.

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  11. Facebook by pzs · · Score: 5, Funny

    Osama Bin Laden has sent you some anthrax using the super poke application. Would you like to reply?

  12. Anyone notice a trend...? by Shawn888 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is just the government looking for a new way to view the people's email in any way they can. They will keep making new stories and attach the work "terrorist" to it, so that they can get a free pass to peek inside the area. First it was phones (obviously), and now they do warrantless wiretaps (and get away with it). Then it was laptops, now they can confiscate your laptop at the border for about as long as they want to. Now it's social sites... Anyone see a trend here? Now before I finish I will say that the government does need some of these options under certain circumstances, but not a free pass to view whatever they want, whenever they want.

    1. Re:Anyone notice a trend...? by secretcurse · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I will say that the government does need some of these options under certain circumstances, but not a free pass to view whatever they want, whenever they want.

      Which is the entire point of warrants. Can someone explain to my why the government would ever possibly need to act without a warrant? If there's an imminent threat, they can even go ahead with a wiretap and get the warrant later, they just have to let a judge know why they did it. Is the government afraid our judges are terrorists now?

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  13. Panic! by Clovis42 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yeah, thanks to websites like Myspace, terrorist groups like "Fans of Panic at the Disco" have been able to organize and terrorize the rest of the web.

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  14. Wouldn't you take the opposite approach? by khasim · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Infiltrating these recruiter networks to sow confusion and discord, as suggested in TFA, would be highly effective to curtail recruitment in an anonymous environment where little trust exists to begin with.

    Wouldn't you take the opposite approach and encourage trust in your fake user ... and then use the logs to track the IP addresses of the other participants ... and then tap (legally) their phones ... and find the people who have real connections with real terrorist organizations and crack THEM?

    This is the kind of intel that our government doesn't get anymore.

    And it would be a LOT more effective and efficient then simply trawling through random phone conversations.

  15. Re:Prison System... by dargaud · · Score: 4, Interesting
    3 quotes for you:

    Convicts register their religious affiliation when they're processed into prison. And about 99.5% of the huge U.S.A. prison population consists of inmates who identified themselves as members of religious denominations." -- Gene M. Kasmar.

    "In general, higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy and abortion in the prosperous democracies." -- From 'Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies' a study published in the (peer-reviewed) Journal of Society and Religion, 2008.

    "When I was young I used to pray for a bike. Then I realized that God doesn't work that way, so I stole a bike and prayed for forgiveness." -- Dan Gadino.

    So how about we instead teach those criminals _not_ to use god as an excuse or as a way to get forgiveness ? Maybe if they figured out they have only their current life they'll decide to make better use of it. One can dream.

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  16. I congratulate the author by fruey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyone stupid enough to read this article and decide avoid the Internet because it is a hive of scum & villany is just one less stupid person on the net in the first place. So much the better.

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  17. minority report .. by rs232 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What good is freedom of expression if there is no freedom of response. So-called democratic states attempt to suppress descent on social networks by painting them as havens for terrorists. It's curious as both the capitalists and the communists are dead scared of people talking to each other, without the moderating influence of some state-run or private-enterprise owned media.

    Yoani Sanchez and her blogging comrades are now the targets of the Castro regime's censors--and police.

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  18. Please guys, they are winning by mgiuca · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Terror: "One that instills intense fear".

    How is this continual stream of "they could be EVERYWHERE" news not spreading the terror? Seriously ... every once in awhile they fly a plane into a building or blow up a bus, which is horrible!! But having our media and our politicians say, "forall x. x can be used by the terrorists (watch out|let's get rid of it)" is doing way more damage to our lives.

    Preaching to the converted, I know, but that's why we comment on Slashdot after all :)

  19. This Just In! by Mateo_LeFou · · Score: 4, Informative

    Terrorists have persistent habit of breathing in oxygen and exhaling carbon dioxide.

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  20. it gets better by swanriversean · · Score: 2, Insightful

    this just in:
    literacy enables terrorist to communicate more effectively

    related news:
    troops in Afghanistan will begin rooting out insurgent teachers who are instructing the next generation of terrorists the techniques of reading and writing (arithmetic, aka math, had been banned long ago once it was discovered that 3rd grade Afghans were surpassing the proficiency of US high school grads)

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  21. Money! by ShatteredMind · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Obviously the number one method for recruiting, arming, and gathering terrorists is good old green backs! Money the number one tool for terrorism; guess we need to ban that shit too.

    1. Re:Money! by AmberBlackCat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I still think it's money. Religion is more of an excuse to do it than anything else.

  22. Ah, the irony. by rift321 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Religious fanatics using technology created by western consumer whores to organize attacks against western consumer whores in the name of religious fanaticism. I guess in their culture, the ends _do_ justify the means. In any case, I'm sure if they use it enough, they'll become so distracted by the addicting nature of checking your wall, and leaving clever bumper stickers for friends that they'll forget all about their religious convictions.

  23. Re:Prison System... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Convicts register their religious affiliation when they're processed into prison. And about 99.5% of the huge U.S.A. prison population consists of inmates who identified themselves as members of religious denominations." -- Gene M. Kasmar."

    Everyone knows that convicts would never lie on an admission form.

  24. Re:This Just In! by DrLang21 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So they're the ones to blame for Global Warming. Terrorists hate polar bears too.

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  25. Re:This Just In! by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Funny

    Terrorists have persistent habit of breathing in oxygen and exhaling carbon dioxide.

    Well we're trying to cure them of that habit. ;)

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  26. This Just In by maz2331 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Technology is show to be poltically-neutral. The same websites that link peaceful people can also link criminals, terrorists, military personnel, and the CIA to each other.

    The same gun can be used to terrorize or defend.

    The same hammer can drive nails or bash in skulls.o

    We now return you to your regularly-scheduled /.-ing.

  27. Re:Prison System... by denttford · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Additionally, an inmate declaring membership in a religious group sets the stage for affiliating with a "group" that might afford protection in prison. Also, I'm told that the halal food is better at Rikers. IIRC there are some benefits for prayer times. Just one example.

    You are in prison - what are the advantages to going it alone? By declaring affiliation with a group, what have you lost?

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