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Happy 25th, Macintosh!

bradgoodman writes to tell us that tomorrow will mark the 25th anniversary of the first Macintosh, debuting just 2 days after the famous Super Bowl XVIII commercial. "'The Macintosh demonstrated that it was possible and profitable to create a machine to be used by millions and millions of people,' said Alex Soojung-Kim Pang, research director for the Institute for the Future, a Palo Alto, California, think tank, and chief force behind 'Making the Macintosh: Technology and Culture in Silicon Valley,' an online historical exhibit. 'The gold standard now for personal electronics is, "Is it easy enough for my grandmother to use it?" People on the Macintosh project were the first people to talk about a product in that way.'"

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  1. Mac World by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm a PC. I've always been a PC at heart.

    Not like the rest, the others. Everyone around me. I was at odds with my society and knew it early since birth. Unlike them, I did not "Think Different!"--the mantra of the Macs around me, the phrase on all the billboards in the city that served as a reminder to its citizenry. Sameness pervaded the essence of my being and no amount of self-conditioning I did could change that. Eventually, I gave up and isolated myself emotionally from society.

    I gaze at the faces going by, the white earphones contrasting their black turtlenecks, connecting their ears to their pockets, their blank faces engrossed in hip Indie rock music and various garage bands. I envied them for their perfection against my flaws and my compulsive nature to expand, to burden my life with troubles instead of remaining, like them, simple and easy to deal with. The grandest of virtues, simplicity... the philosophy by our loyal benefactor Steve Jobs, who descended from the heavens, creating the Earth, the iron, the wind and the rain. Steve Jobs, who defined the parameters of existence, the one who set about the patterns of reality, the constants, the variables. He who made gravity, electromagnetic energy, and shaped atomic structures and brought forth motion. From these things, he crafted the elements, processed them, refined them, and from these things engineered Apple products through the purity of his mind. Each Apple product was individually crafted by his own hands with the programming code used to run each device having being compiled in his brain and uploaded to each device telepathically, breathing life and perfection into each and every unit.

    Except, it seems, for me, for I was not among the many. I was a PC. They were Macs. I've always been a cold, stiff person. I got by, disguising myself by keeping my non-Ipod music player safely out of sight, which I use because of my depraved nature demanding more functionality than the simple and easy-to-use Ipods have to offer... In the safety of my own home, behind locked doors, I ran a Forbidden, a contraband computer from more depraved, earlier days that was not given the love and blessing of being birthed by Steve Jobs. I dual booted, out of the great sin of curiosity. Curiosity, a shameful value of a PC, as curiosity has no place where simplicity matters most. I used two of the great unutterable blasphemies--something called "Windows Vista" and something else called "Linux." Although, as I mentioned before, although my tendency to be a PC and towards conformity has always been inherent to me, I was truly transformed when I found these old things in a hidden cache of computer parts predating The Purging. Perhaps the greatest sin of all, the single evil that, if discovered, would damn me forever, was the fact that my mouse had more than one button.

    As I walked on among the Macs on the streets, passing the Starbuckses as I went along, I wondered how it all came to this. I glanced at The Holy Marks on the foreheads as the people wandered down the streets, the Bitten Apple tattooed on all our of us at birth, and wondered if, perhaps, there could be something more to life. But again, this was a PC's thought, and not, like everyone elses', a Mac's. We were to hold ourselves to the philosophy of Steve Jobs--so as his products were designed for idiots, so too were we to be idiots. But I was not a Mac--I was not an idiot. I was simply too complicated to be a worthwhile person.

    Nature called. I found a nearby public iPoo--squeaky clean and sparkly white, things weren't all bad--and let myself go, expelling the waste that had accumulated inside me. After relieving myself and committing the overly-complicated and thus illegal act of wiping my ass (I did not flush as iPoos, designed to be idiot-proof, did not flush) I left and once again wandered the streets aimlessly, hoping to find some meaning in a world where I simply did not belong, a world where if my true nature was discovered, I would be endlessly persecuted by smug, self-righteous sons of bitches.

    1. Re:Mac World by camperdave · · Score: 2, Funny
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    2. Re:Mac World by Idiomatick · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Man your karma is going to take a massive hit ... getting dozens of +1funny from humans and -1troll from the macs. Kudos

    3. Re:Mac World by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm guessing brother.

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    4. Re:Mac World by Hal_Porter · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, my choice of stylish, premium priced consumer electronics proves I am better than the hoi polloi too.

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    5. Re:Mac World by MindlessAutomata · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, the joke is precisely what it appears to be: making fun of pretentious Apple fanatics. In reality it doesn't matter what OS you use so long as it suits your purpose, but when you debate the relative pros and cons of apple products versus anything else, you're going to get marked down if you even imply the big A's products are overhyped and, at times, overpriced.

      You don't see very many Windows zealots, and Linux evangelists are often still capable of pointing out Linux's own flaws. When it comes to Apple products, hey, the Ipod is a great device because of it's features--point out it lacks a lot of features that other, lower-priced mp3 players have, and suddenly that's a great boon because it's "simpler" to use.

      The Apple fanboy is like the Nintendo Internet Warrior in this regard. You know the type, the type who responds angrily when you so much as criticize Nintendo's lack of good third party support (this has been a complaint for years, not much has changed) or the lack of quality titles on the Wii. They do exist, and so does the Apple fanboy.

      Ipod users are generally like Windows users in the regard that they simply don't know about the alternatives. One difference, though, is that there aren't hordes of Windows users proclaiming that Window's popularity is due almost entirely to its features and qualities. Talking with people about mp3 players most that have, say, Ipod nanos typically got them because they just didn't know what else was on the market. Generally they weren't fans of iTunes and thought some of the features of other, common mp3 players were cool. Granted, if you like iTunes then Ipods may be a good idea, and Ipods do have some features other mp3 players don't have such as gapless playback. But the Applevangelists will proclaim the Ipods success is not due to marketing but because of it having either lots of features or not as many features, depending on which argument is convenient. Any feature the Ipod has is great, fantastic, amazing, so on and so forth, while any other feature other MP3 players have, such as FM tuners or expandibility through sdhc cards are just cruft and make it harder to use (a ridiculous accusation, but they must defend Apple at all costs) I think, though, if someone steps back and analyzes the pros and cons of mp3 players on the market a person honest with themselves will probably make a selection other than the Ipod. I suspect that actual act of owning an Ipod (and this potentially applies to many other products, from other companies, too) makes the owner value the product and its qualities more than they would if they didn't own it and let it grow on them. Buying something because of the brand name is stupid, whether it's t-shirts or music players.

      Each OS will obviously have its pros and cons. Linux is rough around the edges and one wrong command in root can destroy all your data. Windows (yes, Vista is a good OS too, with many of its own great qualities) . And a lot of people apparently have their reasons for choosing Macs for video editing (I don't edit videos) and sometimes even Linux users set up their desktops to emulate desktop features of Mac OSX. But the dyed-in-the-black-turtleneck-wool Apple fans that describe themselves as being "part of the Mac community" and buying whatever Apple products come out simply because it's an Apple product are rather unique.

      Actually, this isn't even a point about operating systems. I only mention operating system a little. It's the Apple worship this is about. When people start fawning over Microsoft products the same way (please shoot me if they do) then you'll see a story about a dystopian Microsoft future.

      (I'm willing to let Linux and *BSD etc guys have more of a pass because Linux and the *BSD guys are not centered around for-profit companies; thus the projects truly have community backing them)

    6. Re:Mac World by dangitman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course, your rants about uncritical Apple worship are nothing but bullshit. Apple fans can be aggressively critical of Apple, and they aren't conformists. The problem is that on forums like this, so many people spout utter lies and bullshit, that it needs to be debunked before we can get to the constructive and rational criticisms. Posts like yours do nothing but drive the discourse away from that and towards the "zealotry" you supposedly despise. If you actually made reasonable accusations and criticisms, then you'd find plenty of Apple fans who would agree with you. But I guess I'm just responding to a troll again. Sigh.

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    7. Re:Mac World by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Wow. Those are probably the worst adverts ever. The take home messages from each one:
      1. Linux has 30 million users, so about 0.3% of the total market. Look at Linux! It's relevant! Oh and it's been around for 'a long time' but still only made it to 0.3%. Yay.
      2. Linux UI changes every few minutes, Windows will stay the same for 6-7 years. Switch to Linux (if you like retraining costs every few months)!
      3. Using Linux is really embarrassing. Don't admit it in public.

      Not really sure what they were trying to say here, but whatever it was they failed miserably. Mind you, when they started by designing an advert that copied someone else's they were on the road to failure already...

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  2. I remember it well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It was the last day I showered or left the basement.

    1. Re:I remember it well... by Scottar · · Score: 3, Funny

      Its not a basement, its a command center

  3. Kinda Telling by QuantumRiff · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That you mention "Apples Superbowl Commercial" and people know it. My dad knows, and is a real estate manager! That commercial really sticks in peoples mind. I would love to see apple come out with another commercial of that caliber. The Hal9000 commercial wasn't nearly as cool...

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  4. Not my Grandmother by aardwolf64 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have two Macs at home, but I don't think my Grandmother could handle it. How do you explain the difference between quitting an application and simply closing the window? My wife has the same issue...

    1. Re:Not my Grandmother by dingen · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Why should your grandmother care? If she wants to surf the web, she clicks on Safari in the dock. If it's already running, she'll get a window to browse the web with. If it's not running, it will load and she'll get a window to browse the web with.

      Keeping track of which applications are currently running is something for techies who are concerned with memory usage and such because they actually know how their computer works. Your grandmother doesn't so neither does she needs to know the difference between closing a window and closing an application.

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    2. Re:Not my Grandmother by GaryPatterson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      On top of that, a good OS will page out the unused application after a while, so it's taking up neither RAM nor CPU cycles.

      It doesn't matter if the app is left open, it doesn't have any noticeable impact on the system for users.

    3. Re:Not my Grandmother by mdwh2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      She'll care when it's "Why does my computer keep running slow?" or even that she doesn't have enough memory to open applications. Especially 25 years ago, when OSs didn't swap out RAM, and RAM was very limited.

      Are you actually saying that users never closing applications was intended behaviour?

    4. Re:Not my Grandmother by Lars+T. · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, you are right, she would have been much happier using DOS.

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    5. Re:Not my Grandmother by SpooForBrains · · Score: 2, Informative

      25 years ago, the Mac did not have Multifinder, and thus this was a non-issue. You could only have one application open at once.

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  5. Arrrgh. And many more too... by jedidiah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    May you continue to be the true innovators in the industry and give the rest of us good stuff to copy from.

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  6. It was a ridiculous failure by Bemopolis · · Score: 4, Funny

    No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

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  7. Re:1984 was not like 1984 by TheKidWho · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are you kidding? 1984 was exactly like 1984, the personal computer was just a ploy by the government to gain access to our very thoughts. What you don't know is that MAC OS and WINDOWS and even LINUX are all running rootkits that grant access to the NWO. Everything you type is monitored. Why do you think new computers come with video cameras standard??? So they can monitor you...

    </TinFoil>

  8. funny, it booted faster by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    25 years and computers still don't boot any faster. A 8MHz 128k Mac would boot in about 20 seconds. Now computers are clocked about 500 times faster and it takes 10 times longer. What's a factor of 5000 among friends?

    1. Re:funny, it booted faster by MouseR · · Score: 4, Informative

      EFI OpenBoot firmware has more code than the original Mac OS boot floppy, wich cheated by having 4 megs already in ROM.

      So, what's your point, really?

      My Apple //c and multitude of other antique hardware (including a Lisa 2) might boot faster, but they sure dont do as much.

      Quit complaining and head back to your compiler!

    2. Re:funny, it booted faster by StreetStealth · · Score: 4, Informative

      Honestly, I think the evolution of suspend states has more than made up for it. Granted, you're still drawing a bit of power while in sleep, but modern Macs use next to nothing in that state and wake near-instantaneously.

      Coupled with an OS that can run for weeks without a reboot, I've no complaints.

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    3. Re:funny, it booted faster by ogdenk · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The CPU in the eMac is slightly beefier and the eMac (at least the 2005 model) has a much better video chipset (64MB Radeon 9600), more available ports for expansion and uses desktop components versus laptop components.

      To me, it's worth the hackery to cram an LCD in there after the CRT finally gives up. It's also quite a bit more expandable and faster than the iMac G4's.

      eMacs really aren't that bad. A better PPC machine would obviously be a big dual cpu G4 tower or a dual G5 but both are a LOT more expensive than an eMac. G4 eMacs are REALLY cheap these days as well. Usually half as expensive as an iMac G4 and are genuinely better machines even though the CRT will only do 1280x960.

  9. And in other news... Happy 40th PDP-10 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Many of the original processing concepts of the Macintosh 68000 CPU came from Digital Equipment Corporation's PDP-10 which celebrated its 40th birthday last year. The data/address separation as well as the instruction set sequencing via a two-step clock. The PDP-10 "DDT" debugging tool also had an equivalent that could be invoked by using the "programmers switch" (which was a cheap little plastic doohicky which slid into place on the side of the original Macs and, when pressed, would directly activate a switch on the motherboard and drop you into a debugger)

    1. Re:And in other news... Happy 40th PDP-10 by Guy+Harris · · Score: 4, Informative

      The data/address separation

      Are you referring to the memory buses here? The only data/address separation in the 68K instruction set was the separation between data and address registers, which the PDP-10 didn't have (it just had 16 GPRs).

      The "PDP" that the 68K more closely resembles from a programming point of view is the PDP-11, with more complex addressing modes and an operand/operand orientation rather than the register/memory orientation of the PDP-10.

  10. Computer with a mouse AT HOME?! by Tom+Arneberg · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I got one of the first Macs. It wasn't my first computer with a mouse; we had those at work for chip design. But those cost over $100K each. My fellow engineers couldn't believe that I got a computer at home with a mouse and windows/menus for only $2500!

    It even made it into our family Christmas card photo that year:


    http://arneberg.com/family/xmas/xmas1984.jpg

    (This is my first-ever slashdot post...how do I get a web link to work?)
       

    1. Re:Computer with a mouse AT HOME?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      You have a 5 digit ID and this is your first post? You've really been lurking for a decade?

    2. Re:Computer with a mouse AT HOME?! by funky49 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sir,

      You are so awesome and I'm so glad the mother of your child was willing to go along with the picture.

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    3. Re:Computer with a mouse AT HOME?! by Locke2005 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Xerox made computers with a GUI and mouse before Apple, but they cost a fortune, and were pieces of feces. The disk drive on the Interlisp D machine I used was powered by a rubber belt (like a vacuum cleaner). And just like a vacuum cleaner, it occasionally popped off or broke. Also, the entire file system was stored in Lisp nodes, so when you deleted a large directory, it stopped doing anything for over a minute while it garbage collected all the deleted files.

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  11. Presents by hendrix2k · · Score: 2, Funny

    Xerox wanted to send a present, but they decided the GUI they sent for the baby shower is the gift that keeps on giving.

    1. Re:Presents by Spaseboy · · Score: 2, Funny

      It might be a nice gesture for Apple to buy Xerox with some of their pocket change and take it out back and shoot it.

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  12. Re:1984 was not like 1984 by fm6 · · Score: 2, Funny

    That's simply not true. I'm sending the Thought Police over to your house to explain to you how mistaken you are.

  13. mac w128K of RAM - so little power, but powerfull by acomj · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It amazes me now, how we computed with so little RAM and no Hard Disk. I don't know how much ram Cell phones have but its probably more..

    Those old macs 8 mhz processor 128 Kbytes (512 soon after.)

    full specs
    http://lowendmac.com/compact/original-macintosh-128k.html

    Of course there were times when those old macs would spit out the disk you were using and ask you to put in the system disks... The Mac SE with harddrive couldn't come soon enough.

  14. Re:1984 was not like 1984 by Sans_A_Cause · · Score: 4, Funny

    There was no 1984. We have always lived in 2009.

  15. I have a Mac 128 by elmerfud2000 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have a Mac 128 with an Apple Imagewriter, one of the first ones where they used a regular DB25 cable instead of the Appletalk cable. I can't believe its 25 years old. I bought it in 1990 for the printer. I think the lady said she paid $4500 for it. At the time I told her that could buy her a very nice '386

  16. Re:Not the first... by dimeglio · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yep, I was one of those who bought one during the first 100 days. All I remember was how painful it was swapping 3.5" floppies in and out of that computer. It was easy but painful. The Apple Lisa was much better and had a hard disk (that amazing 5mb Apple Profile). Sadly it was 3-4 times the price.

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  17. Re:Not the first... by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Pioneers get the arrows, settlers get the land, is the operating phrase of most major technology companies. Apple did not invent the mp3 player, but they most definitely settled it. They did not invent postscript, but they definitely established it. And they did not invent the GUI but they settled it.

    But taken as a whole, the mac was really a pioneering achievement, When you consider what was available at the time. Sure Xerox had their star systems, people used floppies and so on. But to put it all together in (relatively) cheap system that did not have a command line at all and sell it to consumers was a huge risk. And one that took a lot of innovations to make all work together. It had an original OS. It used software driven instruments to do everything (apple desktop bus. disk timing, character generators, etc...)

    a huge leap and worthy of the boldness of that ad.

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  18. 25 years of Macintosh: Ars Technica's favorite Mac by IYagami · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interesting opinions from the ArsTechnica editors: http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/25-years-of-macintosh.ars

  19. Re:mac w128K of RAM - so little power, but powerfu by ogdenk · · Score: 3, Informative

    Ummm.... the Mac plus had SCSI and the 512 supported a hard drive they made for the floppy port. I think that drive worked with the 128 as well. The floppy port HDD's were pretty slow but they worked.

    When the Plus was a new machine, I had an Atari ST at home though. The ST was cheaper, just as fast, had built-in MIDI, an awesome audio chipset, color graphics, an ugly GUI and much cooler games. I got a Mac Plus later.

  20. Re:Commemorative model? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yeah, but I can still hope for some kind of a Mac Mini-level revision with a bump in speed and a built-in iPod dock to come out tomorrow at a price point of $666.66 (between the prices of the two current configurations), perhaps merging in features of the Apple TV platform.

    Or even better, how about a pocket-sized Mac Micro? That would be a shocker!

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  21. Re:Apple is dying by ogdenk · · Score: 5, Funny

    Heh. They've been dying since 1977 according to most industry analysts.

  22. It's not easy enough for my grandmother to use by Locke2005 · · Score: 3, Funny

    My grandmother's dead, you insensitive clod!

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  23. OT: Sig by Hatta · · Score: 4, Funny

    [ My car's odometer reads in pentaparsecs. My speedometer in parsecs/hour. ]

    Does your car appear blue from the front, and red from behind?

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    1. Re:OT: Sig by TwistedSymmetry · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, it just reads zero all the time. It's hideously impractical.

  24. Re:mac w128K of RAM - so little power, but powerfu by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2

    I have a Mac Plus. I got it specifically to run a particular version of AppleShare that allowed you to boot an Apple IIgs over an AppleTalk connection. And I never got around to actually doing it. Hmm, now there's something I can look into doing once I get that desk rebuilt. I know I've got an old 40 MB SCSI drive lying around somewhere....

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  25. Re:Not the first... by lymond01 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Clearly you never had to wait for your dad to shell out $400 for a 5.25" floppy drive upgrade on your Commodore 64 because your cassette drive would just take FOREVER to load Temple of Apshai (which, until this very post some 25 years later -- Christ... -- I thought was spelled Aphsai).

  26. Re:Memory Lane... by dangitman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Isn't it funny... the more powerful computers get, the things we do with them get lamer and more trivial. 1984 - testing and developing scientific theories on a machine with 128K RAM; 2009 - posting on slashdot with 4GB RAM.

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  27. easy enough for my grandmother? by brre · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The gold standard now for personal electronics is, "Is it easy enough for my grandmother to use it?"

    My last three consumer electronics purchases (DVR, car audio, component HD radio) all fail that test handily. Not even close.

    So 25 years later, there's a lot of room for improvement toward meeting that standard.

    Congrats Apple on meeting it earlier and more often than most.

  28. Thank you, Apple, for 25 years of brilliance by QuatermassX · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I remember the first time I tried using a Mac - in a sort of technology "cave" in the J.C. Penny's in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania back in 1985. It felt so strange, but just seemed to make sense - especially when I went back to home muck about on my TRS-80 Colour Computer.

    Flash-forward a few years later and I go to university and leave my beloved dot-matrix printer behind. I joined the newspaper and became very well acquainted by this application humorously called "Quark Xpress" and the Mac SE/80. Now this little thing seemed perfect - full WYSIWYG printing, networking, and fun version of Risk to while away the hours. After a little practice, I started to do things I never thought I could do ...

    That continued a few years later when I started investigating using my Mac at home for simple movie editing with this new piece of software called "QuickTime". Unfortunately for me, Dad had bought a Performa 450, so no movie editing for me!

    After Windows 95 was released, I dated a Windows-using girl and drifted away from the Mac.

    Then everything changed in 1997 and 1998. I finally began receiving a decent pay packet, moved in with the girl and splurged on a beige Mac G3 minitower (that I sold the next year to buy the Blue and White minitower).

    I started doing things that I always wanted to do, but never thought possible - programming screen savers, scanning negatives and working on my photography, using a beta of this funny app from Macromedia called "FinalCut" to edit some commercials, then getting hired at a large publishing company because I was a paid-up member of the Apple club.

    More than anything else (aesthetics, politics, etc), my Macintosh PC's have always enabled me to fully express my creativity with a minimum of fuss. Windows computers just give me headaches and have for years - and always seem to be working against me.

    I hope the next 25 years (and pretty much the next third of my life if I'm fortunate) will be filled with Apple-creative things that similarly enrich and enable my creativity and make life all the sweeter.

  29. What I Remember Macintosh For by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What I remember Macintosh for:

    1: Sealing up the original Mac while Apple II and IBM PC were open architectures.
    2: Comparably higher prices for equivalent performance and peripherals.
    3: Absolute hostility to clone makers, which allowed Apple to pass on their inefficiency to their customers.
    4: Floppy disc incompatibility with other more prevalent systems for far too long.
    5: Threats to discontinue warranty coverage from anybody who dared crack the sealed-box open.
    6: Taking forever to provide an internal hard drive long after their PC competition and 3rd party suppliers (anyone remember HyperDrive) had shown them how to do it.
    7: Needing to dump Steve Jobs before an Open Mac arrived.
    8: The most expensive (by far) laser printer on the market when the excellent HP LaserJet met many user's needs with the same print engine for far less money.
    9: 50% profit margins and proud of it!

    Yes there's more, but this was a good enough start for now.

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    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
    1. Re:What I Remember Macintosh For by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Licensing fees so that games weren't 'welcome'. (Or so I was told, might be an urban myth).

      Constant disappointment when I would realize that I would need an IBM compatible computer to run [INSERT New Application].

      Later when CDs came out those stupid absurd CD Cassettes.

      When they moved the power button to the keyboard so that books being moved around on your desk would turn off your computer... oh wait it's STILL like that. Grrrrrr.

  30. Time to make a Mac Fishbowl by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2

    I have a Mac SE (dual drive) and Apple II+ sitting in my garage.

    I think it's time to celebrate, and turn the Mac SE into a Fishbowl with silver sparkles for the anniversary, and the Apple II+ into the pump cover.

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    1. Re:Time to make a Mac Fishbowl by Hatta · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Maybe you should find someone who would appreciate them and use them instead. They're not making any more of those things you know.

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  31. Re:Memory Lane...MEMORIES BEST LEARNED FROM by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Mac LC - my first Mac. Cashed in my 401k and bought it, a color monitor, and printer for about $6,000

    A truly stupid (among many truly stupid) reasons to cash on ones 401k. Unless it's provided you 10X the income since, and you've stashed that income away for retirement, a very bad move indeed.

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    "It's the height of ridiculousness to say for those 9 lines you get hundreds of millions."
  32. Re:Not the first... by c6gunner · · Score: 2, Funny

    Remember loading programs via cassette tape?

    I know that at this point, "RTFA" has become a running joke ... but you're the first person I've seen who hasn't even bothered to read the comment which he's replying to! Way to set a new bar for other slashdotters to meet ...

  33. Re:Not the first... by Tim+Browse · · Score: 4, Funny

    I know that at this point, "RTFA" has become a running joke ... but you're the first person I've seen who hasn't even bothered to read the comment which he's replying to! Way to set a new bar for other slashdotters to meet ...

    The really funny part is that he didn't even read the comment which he was replying to!

  34. Re:Not the first... by I_want_information · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah, I can be a dumbass... surely not the first.