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Billy West Says Futurama Might Return To Fox For 6th Season

MajikJon writes "After strong sales of the straight-to-DVD Futurama movies, Fox is reportedly considering bringing back Futurama for a 6th season. This according to Billy West in a recent statement at the Anime Supercon in Florida. Here's me with my fingers crossed."

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  1. As a fan, I hate to say this by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was a huge Futurama fan when it was on TV, so it pains me greatly to say this. But if you can't do better than those terrible new DVD releases, please *DON'T* bring this show back. I don't know if they got different writers for those movies, or whether the writers they brought back just lost their edge, but those were just embarrassing. Each release has managed to be even worse than the previous one.

    But if Matt Groening has proven nothing else with The Simpsons, it's that he has absolutely no understanding of the phrase "finishing while you're on top" and all-too-much understanding of "run it into the ground until it's a pathetic shadow of its former greatness."

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    1. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by Eli+Gottlieb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well actually, Beast with a Billion Backs sucked, but the rest were pretty damn good. I thought Bender's Game was completely back on form for Futurama.

    2. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by genner · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well actually, Beast with a Billion Backs sucked, but the rest were pretty damn good. I thought Bender's Game was completely back on form for Futurama.

      This!

    3. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by Gat0r30y · · Score: 4, Informative

      You know, you might be right. But if they bring it back, I'm still gonna watch it.

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    4. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by RabidMoose · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I agree with you that the DVD releases have been of much lower quality than the original show. However, I'm hoping (and believe) that the movie-length format was simply wrong for the show, and they would do much better if they were allowed to return to a 20 minute format.

    5. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by eldavojohn · · Score: 2, Informative

      But if you can't do better than those terrible new DVD releases ...

      Eh, I'm not going to insert my own opinion, merely point out that Beast with a Billion Backs was 12th and 6th on the charts for DVD sales according to Billboard. Bender's Game was 10th for a week while Bender's Big Score was only 37th and 11th for its two weeks.

      Their sales have put them on charts so while I'm not disagreeing with your assessment, someone out there enjoys them.

      Honestly, the DVDs are far above 99% of what's on TV right now so ... I say bring it back--it's a great idea financially.

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    6. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by n4f · · Score: 5, Funny

      Best line in Bender's Game: Is that a hobbit over there? No, that's a hobo and a rabbit, but they're making a hobbit.

    7. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by Joe+the+Lesser · · Score: 5, Funny

      Network President: "Greetings, gentlemen. You already know my execubots. Executive Alpha, programmed to like things it has seen before."

      Executive Alpha: "Hey, hey, hey!"

      Network President: "Executive Beta, programmed to roll dice to determine the fall schedule."

      Executive Beta: *rolls dice* "More reality shows!"

      Network President: "And Executive Gamma, programmed to underestimate middle America."

      Executive Gamma: "It's funny, but is it going to get them off their tractors?"

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    8. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2, Funny

      Justin Timberlake sells a lot more records than Caruso. That must make him a better singer, too.

      Billy Caruso? I love that guy!

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    9. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by kwalker · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have to agree. The coolest part of Beast with a Billion Backs was how it tied directly to the end of Bender's Big Score. Other than that, it's my least favorite of the three.

      I'm just not sure if or how they'll recover from the Dark Matter situation (Trying to not spoil it for anyone).

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    10. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by gornzilla · · Score: 5, Informative

      Matt Groening isn't the best. The Simpsons was really helped by Sam Simon (who was fired or quit) and James L. Brooks. If it wasn't for Brooks and Simon, it wouldn't have even made it to teevee.

    11. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by EpsCylonB · · Score: 4, Funny

      Read em and weep, and then tell me what they are.

    12. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

      Beast with a Billion Backs [billboard.com] was 12th and 6th on the charts for DVD sales according to Billboard.

      What an odd way of saying that it was 18th.

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    13. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They just completely ignore it in the new movie, which is probably for the best. I don't know that a major plot thread about fuel issues would've been welcome for two movies in a row.

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    14. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by Catiline · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Big TV needs to die. and Die violently. Executives heads on pikes kind of violently.

      Heads on spikes is sooo 20th century. This is the 31st century... we'll dessicate them and grind their corpses into a fine pink powder.

      (Rattles Can)

      Torgo's Excecutive Powder, anyone?

    15. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by Workaphobia · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Really? I absolutely loved Bender's Big Score more than I have the words to express. I felt that it was in every way the perfect futurama movie. But Beasts with a Billion Backs was clearly an unfinished piece, with tons of promising gag ideas mutilated by terrible execution, timing, and unconvincing plot. I figured this was likely due to the writer's strike, but I've been afraid to view Bender's Game lest I suffer the same disappoint.

      But if Bender's Game and the fourth dvd are half as good as Big Score, I'd love to see a return to episodes.

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    16. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Unimportant spoiler:

      They DON'T ignore it, at one point in the movie they're running low on whale oil :>

    17. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by root_42 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well actually, Beast with a Billion Backs sucked, but the rest were pretty damn good. I thought Bender's Game was completely back on form for Futurama.

      I second this emotion. :)

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    18. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by Jurily · · Score: 2, Informative

      Beast with a Billion Backs sucked

      No, it made me feel bad about ever liking Futurama.

      I had to rewatch Seasons 1-3 to get rid of it.

    19. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by IthnkImParanoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      In the end, it was not guns or bombs that defeated the aliens, but that humblest of all God's creatures...

      The Tyrannosaurus rex.

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    20. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by Krater76 · · Score: 4, Funny

      So it came at you fast and hard.

      A lot like Branigan's Law, which is like Branigan's love - hard and fast!

      Brannigans Law is like a rock, it crushes scissors. But scissors cut paper and paper covers rock! Kiff! We have a conundrum!

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    21. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by mqduck · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It seems opinions vary widely. To me, the first one was, while good, filled with fanservice and a little bit of trying too hard, the second was a return to form and the third was excellent.

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    22. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by Reed+Solomon · · Score: 2, Insightful

      which I think is a poke at Star Trek IV. Whenever something for fuel becomes abundant and cheap, they'll find something rarer and expensive.

    23. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by roystgnr · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well actually, Beast with a Billion Backs sucked,

      Compared to most Futurama, yeah. It wasn't any worse than "That's Lobstertainment" or "A Leela of Her Own", though.

      but the rest were pretty damn good. I thought Bender's Game was completely back on form for Futurama.

      Not quite. Bender's Big Score (at least parts of it) put together an enthralling plot that tugged at the heartstrings. And Bender's Game managed to keep the jokes hilarious, original, and steady. But by the time they were in full swing, the original Futurama episodes were managing to do both those things simultaneously.

      Leela: "Acting like a moron won't bring your dog back."
      Fry: "Then all hope is lost."

    24. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by SirLurksAlot · · Score: 4, Funny

      But if you can't do better than those terrible new DVD releases, please *DON'T* bring this show back.

      You watched it, you can't unwatch it!

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    25. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by Jonny_eh · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why is everyone talking about '3' DVDs?

      There's a 4th one you know, it just came out yesterday, and I liked it a lot.

    26. Re:As a fan, I hate to say this by Arivia · · Score: 2, Funny

      *looks down at a mobster* We might just have a *slides glasses on* hit on our hands. *waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiil*

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  2. Oblig. by grassy_knoll · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good News Everyone!

  3. Executive powder by genner · · Score: 2, Funny

    We're the executives who took the show off the air ground up into a fine powder?

    1. Re:Executive powder by Main+Gauche · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, just you're.

  4. Screw Fox by Raul654 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, screw 'em. They've wrecked one good show after another. I hope another network - any network - picks it up rather than them.

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    1. Re:Screw Fox by Belial6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My example would have been "fat stupid and lazy blue collar guy with hot smart hard working wife... Havoc ensues!" They've been beating that dead horse since The Honeymooners.

    2. Re:Screw Fox by Raul654 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      NBC hasn't had a new hit TV show in years - that's why they recently moved Jay Leno to 10. They, literally, had nothing that could fill the slot. So yes, I think NBC might be in bad enough shape that they'd be willing to take some risks.

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  5. Re:Good news everyone! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 5, Funny

    Good News everyone!

    ... I've invented a device that makes you hear my voice while reading this off the screen!

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  6. Futurama yes! Fox No! by RapmasterT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After seeing how Fox can absolutely murder excellent shows with their weekly schedule ramdomizing game (Futurama, Firefly, etc), I'd MUCH rather see Futurama get picked up by Comedy Central, or Cartoon Network than back on Fox. Screw you Fox, you blew it.

  7. Faux: canceling the shows you love by jollyreaper · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I never really understood how Faux not only greenlit so many wonderful shows but also murdered them in the cradle after barely a season. It seems too much to be coincidence, I think it must be some sort of pathology amongst their programming directors. Keen Eddie, Futurama, Firefly, Dollhouse, all axed. (Ok, might be jumping the gun on Dollhouse by a few weeks.)

    There's usually a political explanation for this kind of illogical behavior where Exec #1 gets to feel like he has a bigger penis for sabotaging Exec #2's pet project. It ultimately costs the company more money than it makes but ego is served so nobody cares. It just makes me wish the inevitable decline and destruction of the company would happen sooner before they tease me with any more shows I might like.

    Anyone remember that old animated show God, the Devil, and Bob? That fat fuck Jerry Falwell led a crusade against it as being blasphemous, the same way he did with the Last Temptation of Christ. Oddly enough, both examples here had a greater understanding of and sympathy for Christ's point of view than that bloviating, closet-case fucktard and all of his ass-hatted minions.

    The Last Temptation one is particularly amusing because the basic premise is "How can Jesus make a sacrifice of rejecting a peaceful human life and accepting the cross if he had no desire for it? Sacrifice without desire is an empty gesture. Giving up brussel sprouts for Lent? Meaningless. Giving up chocolate? Meaningful." So the fundies all flipped out at the idea of Jesus having an erection, Jesus having amorous thoughts about women, about wanting to take a wife and raise a family. Do you idiots read your own fucking book? It says God was made flesh, he is the son of man! One follows the other! What, you gonna flip out if anyone implies Jesus must have had to take a dump or two during his time on Earth? No, Jebus can't poo! Our pitiful little minds cannot contemplate it! Blasphemy!

    So the whole point of the movie was showing Jesus wanting that normal life, seeing how good it felt, knowing it could all be his, and sacrificing it for a greater purpose. And this was considered to be the most horrible cinematic sin committed since Ishtar. Stupid fucking fundies.

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  8. Why Fox? by RyoShin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Does Fox still have first-air rights? Fox loves to take the best stuff and strangle it to death. Out of order episodes, random slot times, and only a dozen episodes before cancellation is extremely common. They're the ADD child of networks.

    Fox doesn't deserve Futurama; if they aren't contractually obligated to bring it back to Fox, West should sell the rights to Adult Swim or Comedy Central. Adult Swim loved showing five hours of Futurama at a time, and Comedy Central just wants more animated filler. They'll both be better homes (though my confidence in [AS] is basically nil now, they've wasted all the class and personality that once made me interested in them).

    My other concern is Family Guy syndrome. Maybe it was because the show was off the air for some time, but Family Guy just isn't as good as it once was. Partly it's because they've completely changed the dynamic of every character (usually for the worst--Stewie is now more about "hiding in the closet" now than "take over the world and kill Lois"). Partly it's that the seem to rely more and more on the "like that time when" skits. While Futurama has always had a much different way to go about humor than that, it could still fall flat.

    Also, I'm worried that we'll lose all the great "under the table" jokes that require at least some college education to get.

  9. Individual episodes, please by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they do decide to bring back Futurama, I hope they'll go back to standalone episodes rather than movies cut up into four episodes. I don't mind an occasional "to be continued", but I find Futurama works better in half-hour chunks.

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  10. Re:Futurama yes! Fox No! by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Cable channels dont typically have the budget for something like Futurama. Its one thing to licence reruns and produce low-quality stuff like Aqua Force and another run a show like Futurama. Right now, its Fox or nothing. Has any of the major players expressed interest? Everyone seems to shy from animation except for Fox.

  11. Zoidberg! by SoundGuyNoise · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because nobody else has said it yet.
    Honestly, my favorite episodes are the Zoidberg-centric. Or anything Zoidberg.

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    1. Re:Zoidberg! by hampton · · Score: 2, Funny

      Zoidberg is a pretty good character but I don't know how you can pick a favorite whe...ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!

  12. Re:Oh my god... by wgoodman · · Score: 2, Informative

    He also scored with her in this reality.. He just skipped past it because of the cronotron radiation.

  13. Re:Good news everyone! by gaderael · · Score: 5, Funny

    Prepared to be sued by the Writers Guild!

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  14. Re:Oh my god... by Chris+Burke · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, actually, it does care. My soul has a very strong sense of reality.

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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  15. Re:Futurama yes! Fox No! by Backward+Z · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Matt Groening has said before that Futurama is so budget-intensive that the smaller cable networks would not be able to financially support the show in its current state. I remember he went on to say that the kind of sacrifices that would have to be made to make the transtion from a broadcast to a cable network cut too deep and he was unwilling to make them.

    I can't remember exactly where I read this, but it makes sense. It's very espensive to make an animated show of this nature while maintaining Futurama's standard of quality. Look at how Comedy Cental and Adult Swim save money on their animations. South Park is super cheap because there's no hand animation. Drawn Together has hand animation, but it's crude and ugly when you stand it next to Futurama. For years Adult Swim used stock character animations and used computers to manipulate them (e.g. Space Ghost, Sealab).

    Futurama needs Fox's money. Kind of like how Mr. Bungle's California could have never been made without Warner Bros.'s money backing it up.

  16. Re:Futurama yes! Fox No! by socsoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is spot on. Cable networks like USA, TBS, TNT, FX, etc never come up with original programming series or movies.

    They just don't have the budget for Monk, Psych, My Boys, 10 Items or Less, Closer, Saving Grace, Nip/Tuck, Sons of Anarchy, It's Always Sunny....

    And that's just off the top of my head, I'm sure I omitted many and I seriously doubt their production costs are less than that of animation.

  17. Re:Futurama yes! Fox No! by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Informative

    Fox's good series but low ratings failures were due to giving the network over to sports instead of recorded programs.

    Fridays during the late 90s and early 2000s, many affiliates carried local baseball games during primetime and they ran the Fox Friday lineup in late night after the local news. So, any series schedule for Friday would get weak rating numbers, and therefore be canceled as a flop.

    Sundays were troubled by NFL runovers and the fact that The Simpsons had to start on time at 8pm or not at all, meaning that in many cities the 7:00 and 7:30 programs would be pre-empted by the game being shown in the late afternoon slot. This doomed Futurama because it couldn't be found in a consistent slot.

    Another strike against Futurama is that it had to run with an alternate opening due to a showing the Planet Express ship crashing into a large screen, which was considered too close to a reminder of 9/11/01.

    However, Fox has fixed all of these problems. Time has passed so the opening is more acceptable. The Friday baseball pre-emptions are now a thing of the past, Fox has let baseball move to regional cable channels, some of which it controls. The Sunday problem has been solved by a postgame show called "The OT" that stations join in progress as the game ends, and runs until 8pm. So, the only thing that can be pre-empted by football is football talk.

    Fox is now no longer killing good shows because they're not getting the numbers due to Fox's own mistakes. They've solved that problem.

  18. Re:Futurama yes! Fox No! by GeckoAddict · · Score: 2, Informative

    Bad examples:
    FX - Owned by Fox
    USA - owned by NBC/Universal
    TNT and TBS - Owned by Turner Broadcasting/Time Warner

    These channels certainly have the cash behind them if they need to take a risk on a new show (and for some of these, I have to believe the station is taking a loss in order to gain market share for other shows), although I suppose the same could be said for Comedy Central (part of Viacom). The problem is getting the show approved and getting a budget to do it from the higher ups...