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Sun Puts Data Center Through 6.7 Earthquake

An anonymous reader sent in a video clip showing Sun experimenting with shoving a data center through a simulated 6.7 Earthquake. Everything stays running, but some power cords came out and some screws worked loose. It's still kind of neat to see a bunch of racks shake like a polaroid.

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  1. Old. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, what a flash back in time...I watched this video at least a year or two ago....

    1. Re:Old. by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Everything stays running, but some power cords came out, some screws worked loose

      How did the servers keep running without the power cords? Or do they refer to power cords on the UPS's?

      For that matter, since when does /. have video in TFS?!? Try the link... it points to itself!

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    2. Re:Old. by hclewk · · Score: 1

      Everything stayed running... the failures consisted or power cords coming out

      So by "running" I think they mean "didn't break"

    3. Re:Old. by Em+Ellel · · Score: 1

      How did the servers keep running without the power cords?

      I got 3 words for you - redundant power supplies.

      Although I don't think this is the case here. If you RTFA (or is it WTFV?) they do say that "the only failures were associated with power cords coming loose" - so they do consider this aspect to be a failure - but its a very easily fixable one - many servers have ways to fix power cords to the chassis of the server in a way that you cannot yank the power cord out easily.

      -Em

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    4. Re:Old. by kaputtfurleben · · Score: 1

      I dunno, maybe only SOME of the power cords came out? But, I think the summary was supposed to illustrate that the servers didn't fail because they broke, even though they might have 'failed' because the power cords came out.

    5. Re:Old. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Anonymous just because I'm to lazy to login...

      The way I read it, is that the data center as a whole stayed up and functional. I'm sure it's built with enough redundancy to maintain service through a failure of a few machines/drives/switches/etc...
      Not every power cord came loose, the "system" compensated, and the box kept on serving.

      Now they need to test what happens when the field tech is replacing a drive right when the earthquake hits. That should be some fun watching! Does he still get the drive replaced?
      Let's find out!

    6. Re:Old. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dual power supplies?

    7. Re:Old. by danw5k1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Real computers have more than one power cord.

    8. Re:Old. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like they got my boss to jump up and down a couple of times to emulate the earthquake. He couldn't sustain more than 3 jumps, but boy oh boy they're a doozy!

    9. Re:Old. by j-pimp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Everything stayed running... the failures consisted or power cords coming out

      So by "running" I think they mean "didn't break"

      Redundant power cables? Although to be fair, in a real data center, KVM pushcarts and jewel cases left in partially filled racks would be a big factor in causing wire damage. Not to mention server mounting arms extending.

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    10. Re:Old. by ba_hiker · · Score: 0, Redundant

      redundant power supplies?? these are server class machines, and i would expect high reliability.

    11. Re:Old. by Major+Byte · · Score: 1

      Wow, what a flash back in time...I watched this video at least a year or two ago....

      Indeedy--the © notice at the end of the video is 2007! (Yeah, I really did WTFV.)

    12. Re:Old. by fuzzywig · · Score: 1

      I'd put money on them using redundant power supplies for starters, and the way they were speaking it sounds like they took the survival of some/most of the machines as 'working'. Which to be fair is more than you'd expect if your data center got that kind of shaking.

    13. Re:Old. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      considering many servers have redundant power supplies, loosing a few power cords does not mean loosing the server.

    14. Re:Old. by Garridan · · Score: 1

      No... in a real datacenter, there's no shit cluttering up the floor or the racks, and KVMs are a permanent solution -- either with a console in every rack, or a centralized solution. Of course, if you shop with Sun, there's really no need for a KVM because their ILOM rocks so hard -- run a little java applet, and you've instantly got keyboard, mouse, and you can mount local disks / images onto the machine. And, if you can VPN / tunnel, you can do it securely from anywhere in the world. In my experience, Sun salespeople are bastards, but their hardware is incredible.

    15. Re:Old. by rackserverdeals · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's no room for a KVM pushcart in the Sun Modular Datacenter.

      All sun servers, new ones anyway, have an integrated lights out management card (ILOM) that you would use instead of a KVM switch. It allows you to connect to the server, even if it's powered off.

      If you were putting this in a seismic zone I would assume you would install some rack drawers if you would have small objects such as jewel cases so you wouldn't have them just laying around. The design of the unit doesn'nt seem to have any shelves, or things you could use as a shelf to put these items on anyway.

      The racks are put in the container sideways and there is a side panel. The rack slides out into the aisle if you need to service anything in the rack.

      I posted a link to this video on the previous thread on the new Internet Archive Data Center that used one of these modular data centers. I guess someone found it interesting and didn't notice how old it was.

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    16. Re:Old. by troll8901 · · Score: 1

      There's no room for a KVM pushcart in the Sun Modular Datacenter.

      Can you tell me what's a KVM pushcart, please?

      Searching in google doesn't seem to turn up anything.

      Thank you.

    17. Re:Old. by rackserverdeals · · Score: 2, Informative

      A KVM is a device that allows you to use one one keyboard, video display and mouse and switch across multiple computers.

      A pushcart is a frame on wheels that you can put stuff on and push around.

      A KVM pushcart is a KVM switch, monitor, keyboard and mouse on a cart that you can push around to bring to different racks to use the KVM without having to have a KVM setup in each rack with dedicated connections to each server.

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    18. Re:Old. by CarpetShark · · Score: 1

      Real computers have more than one power cord.

      MORE THAN ONE powercord? Lordie lordie. How will Rand ever stop the Wheel of Time now?

    19. Re:Old. by troll8901 · · Score: 1

      I didn't know there's such a thing. Thank you for your explanation!

    20. Re:Old. by seenu_2408 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Please Earth Quake !! What will happen to the Junks surrounding this black Box.... Its seems look a like 10ft container .... What happen if another black box by side of this black box hit one to one...... The impact logically will be more higher than 6.7 magnitude earth quake impact.

  2. slashdvertisements by ionix5891 · · Score: 1

    thats what sun is spending money on before its taken over?

    1. Re:slashdvertisements by dotancohen · · Score: 5, Insightful

      thats what sun is spending money on before its taken over?

      Do you expect all development and innovation to stop the moment one mentions the word IBM? I'm glad to see Sun innovating and proving that their technology is reliable.

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    2. Re:slashdvertisements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sun equipment... tested by a gigantic mechanical shaker... powered by... Windows??

      Did anyone else notice that the control system for the Earth Quake simulator is apparently running Windows?

    3. Re:slashdvertisements by Tsunayoshi · · Score: 1

      This video is at least a year old, I remember seeing it when I attended one of their mobile Blackbox tour presentations last year.

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    4. Re:slashdvertisements by ubrgeek · · Score: 5, Funny

      Actually, I was wondering if this was being done in anticipation of the shakeup that will happen after the purchase... Get it? Get it? Thanks folks. I'm here all week. Try the veal and tip your waitress... :)

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    5. Re:slashdvertisements by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Sun equipment... tested by a gigantic mechanical shaker... powered by... Windows??

      Did anyone else notice that the control system for the Earth Quake simulator is apparently running Windows?

      I did just notice, and came mention it. You would think Windows would be the last thing featured in such an obvious slashdvertisement.

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    6. Re:slashdvertisements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do realize that this video is over three months old. The Modular Datacenter is nothing new within Sun, and has been deployed to many companies and services, including the Internet Archive

    7. Re:slashdvertisements by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      reminds me of the handy capable guy from the film "Scary movie"?? I think?? the, "I can toss my own salad." guy.

      Sun: "What you think we need IBM to shake things up? We can shake our selves up!!"

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    8. Re:slashdvertisements by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

      Well, I thought that it was a Big Blue Elephant checking out Sun, by kicking the tires, before it puts up the cash for a used Sun.

      Given the results, Sun should be expecting a huge check in the mail, real soon.

      Unfortunately, it will probably mean a bunch of pink slips for people in *both* companies.

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    9. Re:slashdvertisements by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 1

      Most of the US companies building test equipment like that offer software for Windows only, Instron and MTS both did last I checked.

      If you have it custom built whomever you get to do the controls is probably going to use off the shelf PLCs, HMI software almost certainly, and most of both will be Windows only.

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    10. Re:slashdvertisements by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thats what sun is spending money on before its taken over?

      What makes you think Sun would pay money to advertise this thing on slashdot?

      They're not naive enough to think all the geeks here have millions of dollars hidden in their mother's basements.

    11. Re:slashdvertisements by clockworm · · Score: 1

      My impression from reading news reports was that Sun was actively seeking a buyer, which is a little different than a takeover. Sun is really good at engineering. IBM is really good at making money from engineers' work. Sounds like a good reason to get together to me. IBM likes to have a stable of awesome tech to sell, and Sun needs management that can monetize that.

    12. Re:slashdvertisements by Caesar+Tjalbo · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't mind having a Blackbox but if it was an advertisement for anything, I'd be more interested in getting one of those shake platforms.

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    13. Re:slashdvertisements by Joebert · · Score: 1

      thats what sun is spending money on before its taken over?

      Don't worry, they'll get to the important stuff like multi-million dollar bonuses for executives soon.

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  3. Hard drives?? by Mhtsos · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What hard drive survived that, that's what I'd like to know.

    1. Re:Hard drives?? by AnonGCB · · Score: 1

      As long as the drives were properly mounted, I wouldn't think it should be a problem at all.

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    2. Re:Hard drives?? by ByOhTek · · Score: 1

      Good question. Problem is, I don't trust any of the current SCSI/SAS manufacturers to have high-physical shock tolerance.

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    3. Re:Hard drives?? by Remloc · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Hard drives are not as fragile as you might think. I was running our tiny company's "data center" (3 consumer '486s, two HDs each, screwed down to a metal rack bolted to the wall) 35 miles from Northridge during the 6.75 Northridge quake.
      Didn't lose a single drive.

    4. Re:Hard drives?? by furby076 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Usually the ones that cost about $35k/terrabyte as opposed to the ones that cost $99/terrabyte at newegg.

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    5. Re:Hard drives?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I only see a lot of lateral shaking in the fine video.

      Living in California I've been through a couple of quakes with jolts that felt like I'd fallen off the back of a truck.

      Wonder how the drives, or Sun's box, would hold up to that.

    6. Re:Hard drives?? by PingPongBoy · · Score: 1

      One word SSD. I bet these data-center-in-a-container things can run even inside a moving truck if SSDs are used. Takes a lot of fuel though.

      Personally, if I lived in quakeland, I would do a lot of backups and live in paranoia.

      A possible protection is to strap everything into racks that are suspended by cables attached to an overhead crane. About 18 yrs ago I was at a fab designed to not get jiggled by the continual tremors that always occur everywhere. It was like a big room sitting on jello. Large dampers were used to support this large room so that it's floor and walls were completely separated from the rest of the building.

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    7. Re:Hard drives?? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Usually the ones that cost about $35k/terrabyte as opposed to the ones that cost $99/terrabyte at newegg.

      Well, if it comes to earthquakes, terrabytes surely beat terabytes. After all, it's not a monsterquake! :-)

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    8. Re:Hard drives?? by Thelasko · · Score: 3, Funny

      They could have saved a bunch of time and money by simply setting up that server in the town of Esparto, California.

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    9. Re:Hard drives?? by fm6 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Neither does Sun. This kind of shock-and-vibe testing is actually routine for their products — I've been in the lab where it's done. That lab can't handle anything bigger than a rack, hence the outsourcing of this particular test.

    10. Re:Hard drives?? by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

      My story is anecdotal as well, but on the flip side, I had a computer in the back seat of my car a few years back (coming home from a LAN party) and was rear ended. The damage to the car was fairly minimal and limited to the rear; there was no external damage to the computer or the backseat area at all, nor was I injured, but there was a pretty decent jolt involved.

      When I got home and plugged the drive in, it was making a clicking noise. It failed completely within a day or two. While I've never been through a "real" earthquake (a little 3.2 hit close to here about a year ago but you could barely even notice that), I'm rather sure that the minor rear impact I experienced was a lot less violent.

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    11. Re:Hard drives?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhm, US military has plenty of rack-mount systems in trucks. Also in airplanes and boats. Judging from the sway at the top of the racks, they are using similar shock mount pads too. And having worked on those systems, I know that only the most recent are SSD.

    12. Re:Hard drives?? by AlecC · · Score: 2, Informative

      If firmly mounted, the drives are very shock tolerant. What people don't realize is how high the G force generated when hard object like a drive hits a hard object like a table. You can get instantaneous tens, possibly hundreds of Gs. Earthquakes can generate several Gs, but not tens. Problems tend to occur when structures have forces in unexpected directions (walls are bad at shifting sideways, masonry doesn't like decompression) or when you get resonance with the oscillation, which builds up the energy. Disk drives don't have these failure modes.

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    13. Re:Hard drives?? by Psyberian · · Score: 2, Informative

      Even properly mounted high speed drives can be susceptible to shake damage. In installing a new rack in our datacenter a wire monkey used a hammer drill in our concrete floor next to a rack full of running servers. We had a number of 15000rpm drives have bad sectors from that. They were properly mounted servers and drives. Now if they were 7200rpm drives we probably would have been fine, but what data center needed high speed data access wouldn't use 15000rpm drives.

      Long story short, I would love to see the sector analysis from those hard drives.

    14. Re:Hard drives?? by Eternauta3k · · Score: 1

      A possible protection is to strap everything into racks that are suspended by cables attached to an overhead crane

      I don't know if that'd be a financial success, but you'd certainly win many art contests.

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    15. Re:Hard drives?? by PIBM · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've read that some hard drive use a magnetic stabilisation inside, a little like the digital cameras who moves the sensors along with the user movement, thus, if the hard drive is powered, it can sustain bigger vibrations without being damaged.

    16. Re:Hard drives?? by ByOhTek · · Score: 2, Interesting

      True, but I've had several hard drives from MANUFACTURER_A which have been dropped several feet (while off) onto both hard tile and carpeted floors, and get plugged in and work fine for years. Another, while on, took a three foot fling/tumble when my notebook satchel slipped from my arm (I hadn't realized I left the computer on), and it survived.

      Then I went to MANUFACTURER_B, and a turned off computer with a minitower case slipped and fell on it's side, and the drive died (a few other similar, relatively low impatct collisions with these drives had similar effect).

      A third manufactuer was similar to the first in my experience. Then there was a fourth that worked great, except at the slightest hint of shock, they started making crazy noises from then on (they worked, but if a drive starts making noises all of a sudden like that, you can't really trust it).

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    17. Re:Hard drives?? by ivlad · · Score: 1

      well, I've used to run a bunch of Sun Ultra machines. Across the street there was a new building built. When they were laying the foundation, they used piles and as they drive them into the ground we didn't felt any vibration, but the hard drives went off like cazy. I think, we've exchanged 10 or so (from around 100 machines) in two weeks.

    18. Re:Hard drives?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did your PC lay on the side in the back seat? And was the disk laying "flat" inside the PC? That is, flat when the PC was standing.

      The reason I ask is that I assume disk could be more prone to fault when the shock is in the same direction as a line trough the discs and heads.

      Ie, if you shake a disk "sideways", the heads will simple travel the same way the do when the heads are moved by the motors inside the disk itself. But if you shake the disk the other way, the heads will move towards and away from the discs, increasing the chances for damages.

      Just a thought.

    19. Re:Hard drives?? by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The room probably sat on rubber air springs, which is common for modern buildings in earthquake prone area.

      An earlier reply to you mentions rolling data centers used by militaries. The ones I've seen mount containers on smaller air springs...you'll see Airride on a lot of semi trucks on the highway.

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    20. Re:Hard drives?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bah, down here in Chile we have that kind of rockin' every time, and our hard drives keep on chugging along just fine :)

    21. Re:Hard drives?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was a lot more violent. Much more.

    22. Re:Hard drives?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't trust any of the current SCSI/SAS manufacturers to have high-physical shock tolerance.

      How about high electrical shock tolerance?

    23. Re:Hard drives?? by hawicz · · Score: 1

      Acceleration from a magnitude 5.7 earthquake can be "over 0.1g".
        (reference: http://geology.utah.gov/online/pdf/pi-29.pdf)

      Acceleration from a car crash, even a minor one, can easily be _several_ g! It's not really comparable, unless the earthquake makes your rack fall over and hit the ground.

    24. Re:Hard drives?? by troll8901 · · Score: 1

      I know we all have different favourites, but can you tell me who's MANUFACTURER_A in your experience?

    25. Re:Hard drives?? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      Now can you please post the list of those manufacturers with real names? (enabling anonymous post, of course)

    26. Re:Hard drives?? by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Earthquakes are very low frequency waves, so I'd expect the entire hard drive to shake nearly as one unit. It's high-frequency vibration that would shake the platters independently of the heads (even then, the air movement between the heads and platters provides protection).

    27. Re:Hard drives?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet strangely, I'm on my 4th laptop hard disk in 2 years.

    28. Re:Hard drives?? by metaforest · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm not surprised....

      Earthquakes don't have a lot of energy in the range that HDs are tested...

      Most CONSUMER grade drives are tested with a half-sine shock in the 5ms range; thats like a smack with a hammer for 50G to 100G.. or a drop to a concrete floor from three to six feet. That dents cans, bearings and deforms aluminum drive frames.

      Earthquake energy is a slow gentle push, by comparison, even taking into account distortion of larger structures in the rack. If you use your laptop while riding on a bus, car, or sometimes a plane, your exposing it to more acceleration than an earthquake can usually dish out.

      summary: expecting a consumer grade drive to survive a 6.7 or even a 10 point earthquake is not really much of a stretch unless the rest of the building around the drives is collapsing....

      An installer can do far more damage to a drive just by over tightening the mounting screws.

    29. Re:Hard drives?? by metaforest · · Score: 1

      that sounds like a high energy half-sine impulse to me....

      Were the racks bolted to the concrete floor? That might be a problem.... earthquakes don't do half-sine shocks...

    30. Re:Hard drives?? by metaforest · · Score: 1

      lol: my 2000 Powerbook Titanium is on it's fourth drive; so what?!

      It's been kicked around for years in a bookbag and on international flights.... it's a miracle the thing still runs at all... but it does... go figure. It's been through two earthquakes... one of which the drive was spun-up... not as bad as getting banged around in Russia on countless busses and trains, I am sure.

  4. Slashdot meets 21st century!? by Swizec · · Score: 5, Informative

    FUCKING HELL is that an embedded video I see in the story!? Holy shit, the geek website is ... in step with the times?

    1. Re:Slashdot meets 21st century!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just when I thought Slashdot's design couldn't get worse, they embed video in flash...

    2. Re:Slashdot meets 21st century!? by 0racle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Actually, that pissed me off.

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    3. Re:Slashdot meets 21st century!? by Rary · · Score: 1

      FUCKING HELL is that an embedded video I see in the story!? Holy shit, the geek website is ... in step with the times?

      And in the process, they've created a bit of a mess. Here we have a situation where the summary and the "article" are on the same page. So, the summary contains a link... to this page.

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    4. Re:Slashdot meets 21st century!? by Abreu · · Score: 1

      FUCKING HELL is that an embedded video I see in the story!? Holy shit, the geek website is ... in step with the times?

      Yeah, I thought the same thing, but then I thought "Nah, the slashdot crowd will complain about it"

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    5. Re:Slashdot meets 21st century!? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      noFlash stopped it along with noScript.

      so while I can see that it would have been there, it did no annoy me. /. PUTTING it there - that annoyed me.

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    6. Re:Slashdot meets 21st century!? by BobReturns · · Score: 1

      That would explain the big white space in thunderbird.

    7. Re:Slashdot meets 21st century!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      /. can do something like that? ZOMG

    8. Re:Slashdot meets 21st century!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i guess it is too much to ask the web designers here to test this in the latest opera release. Not amusing how the advertising shows up just fine but the video does not. They sure have their priorities right, don't they?

      pfft.

    9. Re:Slashdot meets 21st century!? by JohnConnor · · Score: 1

      Considering that this piece of news is over a year old, I wouldn't worry too much if I were you.

    10. Re:Slashdot meets 21st century!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I posted too soon. It loaded after a while. My mistake! I tried earlier today and it failed to load but now it is working fine. Must have been slashdotted!

      Sorry web designers!

    11. Re:Slashdot meets 21st century!? by 45mm · · Score: 2

      Yes, I too *gasped* at having to actually read/view the content of the article. What is this site coming to? Informed commenting may be next!

    12. Re:Slashdot meets 21st century!? by techprophet · · Score: 1

      Same here

  5. Actual link by Bardez · · Score: 1

    The real link to the video is in the firehose related article

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  6. "shake like a polaroid" ? by wardco · · Score: 1

    Eh?

    1. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by thedonger · · Score: 1

      As in, shake the instant photo to help it develop.

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    2. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which doesn't help, by the way.

    3. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by name_already_taken · · Score: 2, Informative

      As in, shake the instant photo to help it develop.

      The funny part is, the shaking never really helped the photo develop. It just did the user something to do while the chemicals did their work.

      My mother had a Polaroid instant camera in the UK and we had never heard of shaking the pictures until we came to the US. It seemed as stupid as shaking a bottle of water to make it more watery or something.

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    4. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by sunking2 · · Score: 1

      It's a really bad reference to a black eye peas (I think) song from about 3 years ago.

    5. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by Swizec · · Score: 1

      My understanding has always been that it helped the photo dry quicker so you could show it around without getting everyone covered in developing chemicals.

    6. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Polaroid sold a a few instant-film cameras, precursors if you will to the digital camera, of sorts.

      The film had layers impregnated with fixer and developer, which were released after taking a picture, and the effect was that the image would slowly form out of a blank sheet.

      Some people used to deliberately ruin these photos by grabbing the edge and violently shaking them, under the assumption that they were accelerating the chemical reaction. This had little effect on the rate of development, but it did cause some layers to mix that weren't supposed to, resulting in wavy distortions around the flexure lines and a kind of "burnt" look.

      But.. "warm it moderately like a polaroid" (temperature influences chemical reaction rates) and "handle it gently like a polaroid" are phrases that are never going to be used anywhere for anything.

    7. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Informative

      >>>shake the instant photo to help it develop.

      That is Not what you do with a polaroid. Shaking the photo can cause damage. The proper procedure is to lay it someplace dark and wait 2-3 minutes.

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    8. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dry??? That's a myth equivalent to those who think snakes are slimy. Neither snakes nor polaroids are wet. Both are dry to the touch.

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    9. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by eln · · Score: 5, Funny

      Come sit on your grandpa's knee and I'll tell you a story.

      Long before you were born, back when I was just a lad and dinosaurs roamed the Earth, there was no such thing as "digital photo-graphy". The only way to capture an image of someone or something (or "steal their soul" as we called it back then) was to use a primitive device that would capture light reflected from the target and project it on to a chemical "film", which would end up with a copy of the image embedded into it.

      Later, we would take this film to an old-fashioned building known as a "drug-store" (sort of like Amazon, but you had to drive there, and sometimes you even had to interact with other people in order to purchase goods and services). We would drop off our film, it would be sent off to a magic "photo development center", and transformed into a picture printed on special photo-graphic paper.

      If for some reason you didn't want to wait, you could instead take a picture with a so-called "Polaroid insta-matic camera", which had self-developing film. You would take the picture, and within seconds it would come out of the camera. However, it would still take several seconds to fully develop. Many people thought shaking the picture made it develop faster, but of course that was just silly superstition. The real way to make it develop faster was to sacrifice a goat, but few people tried that, and so were stuck with slowly developing pictures.

      Now, of course, everyone has these "digital photo-graphical machines" which make Polaroids obsolete, and so soon no one will know the simple joy of shaking a Polaroid picture.

      Come back tomorrow, and I'll tell you about how we had to use "floppy disk-ettes" to transfer files from one computer to another, and how we were able to dodge saber-toothed tigers using 1/2-inch tape reels.

    10. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by Swizec · · Score: 1

      I've only ever worked with processing real photos and I was under the impression a polaroid would be similarly wet. Oh well, guess I was wrong then :P

    11. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by tecnico.hitos · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dry??? That's a myth equivalent to those who think snakes are slimy. Neither snakes nor polaroids are wet. Both are dry to the touch.

      Mythbusters can prove that a snake is slimy...with explosives!!!

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    12. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by rlseaman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Instamatic was Kodak's cartridge loading technology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instamatic), not Polaroid.

      Each company's products evolved through many generations. Large cartridges, small cartridges, flash cubes, flash bars, wet developer/fixer, dry process. We gave my dad a Polaroid SX-70 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SX-70) when it first came out. Something very satisfying about the whirr and thunk of the ejection mechanism. The batteries were contained in the film cartridge.

      I recall some Japanese tourists stopping him to take a look at the camera - this may have been the last cool technology that the U.S. saw before Japan.

    13. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 3, Interesting

      http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/02/17/polaroid.warns.reut/index.html

      In older cameras, there was no protective plastic cover, the chemicals were exposed to the air, and shaking or blowing on the picture would make it dry faster.

      In newer cameras, there is a protective plastic cover, the chemicals are not exposed to the air, and shaking will not cause it to dry faster.

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    14. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by eln · · Score: 1

      Instamatic was Kodak's cartridge loading technology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instamatic [wikipedia.org]), not Polaroid.

      I was going to just say "instant", but I wanted something more old-timey looking and hyphenated, so went with insta-matic. The relation to any product by Kodak or any other manufacturer is purely coincidental.

    15. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by KlaymenDK · · Score: 1

      Come back tomorrow, and I'll tell you about [...] how we were able to dodge saber-toothed tigers using 1/2-inch tape reels.

      That I'd really love to hear about. Can't we just pretend it's tomorrow already, aww can we grandpa? :D

    16. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      We would drop off our film, it would be sent off to a magic "photo development center", and transformed into a picture printed on special photo-graphic paper.

      My grandaddy says there were these people who could see in a dark room (they could change size too) and they used alchemistical substances and arcane formulas to produce pictures by themselves. The crazy old sod!

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    17. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kodak also had an instant film product and cameras until Polaroid sued. N.B. these were were not the "Kodak Instamatic" line.

      http://www.retrothing.com/2008/02/kodak-colorburs.html

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_camera

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant_film

    18. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by Abreu · · Score: 1

      "newer" polaroids? I thought they had become extint long ago, like the Dodo bird

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    19. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      We're all slimy on the inside.

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    20. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by edittard · · Score: 1

      That simile hurts my teeth like a deep shade of amber.

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    21. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "how we were able to dodge saber-toothed tigers using 1/2-inch tape reels.'

      Groucho Marx voice:

      "How the saber-toothed tigers got 1/2" tape reels I'll never know!"

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    22. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by Dynedain · · Score: 1

      An hour ago I was sorting some junk from home for recycling and came across some 5.25" floppy disks with the original SimCity. I offered one to my coworker as a joke about how old the game was. She had never seen that style of disk before.

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    23. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by Java+Pimp · · Score: 1

      "Woosh" is so much funnier the way you say it! I would have modded you up but it seems my mod points have gone the way of the dinosaurs...

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    24. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by thedonger · · Score: 1

      Whoa, chief. I did not advocate shaking a Polaroid instant photo. I just wanted to clear up the use of the phrase for the parent post. I was taught to flip them over and wait.

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    25. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by Deadstick · · Score: 1
      Instamatic was Kodak's cartridge loading technology

      ...a move Kodak regretted circa 1980 when they went into the instant-camera biz themselves. The name would have been a lot more apropos for that product.

      But they regretted the whole instant-camera episode even more, when Polaroid's lawyers got through with them...

      I recall some Japanese tourists stopping him to take a look at the camera

      A busload of Japanese tourists was held up hereabouts by an armed man who robbed all the passengers Jesse James style...police don't have a description of him, but they're examining several terabytes of photographs.

      rj

    26. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by treeves · · Score: 1

      Used to do it myself. E-6 (color slide) process and B&W prints (long live Tri-X! can you still get that?). Never did any color prints. Too expensive for me at the time.

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    27. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by idontgno · · Score: 1

      And with enough explosives, the inside is on the outside. And therefore slimy. Q.E.D.

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    28. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by RealGene · · Score: 1

      In the original Polaroid Land cameras, the film came in a roll, not a cassette.
      The photo had to be manually separated from its negative.
      Polaroid supplied a hardening agent (for scratch resistance), which was a wet, waxy stick that the user would wipe across the photo. It was common to wave the photo to dry the hardener.
      During the SX-70 development, the chemists had to adjust the reaction rates to accommodate peoples' habit of waving (and cooling) the photos. Polaroid also supplied a "warming clip", which was shaped like a broad money clip. The intention was to place the photo in the clip, then place it under your arm for warmth.
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    29. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      No. It's only been half a year since Polaroid stopped selling their self-developing film.

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    30. Re:"shake like a polaroid" ? by wardco · · Score: 1

      Well, the funny thing is, I owned a "Swinger" as a boy (turn the knob, it says "yes", take the shot, count it down, zip it off) and I guess I did wave the pix around to dry them. But when Ed Land came out with the fold up unit in the early seventies that spit out the card -- well, that's what polaroid meant to me -- so I didn't even think about shaking.

  7. TFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    kind of neat to see a bunch of racks shake like a polaroid

      Please stop, your turning me on.

    1. Re:TFS by Red+Flayer · · Score: 4, Funny

      but it's still kind of neat to see a bunch of racks shake like a polaroid.

      Only on slashdot does this refer to server hardware.

      (At Hooters, it refers to server software).

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    2. Re:TFS by idontgno · · Score: 4, Funny

      (At Hooters, it refers to server software).

      Server firmware, please. Typically, embodied in silicon(e).

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  8. Fixy Linky Please? :) by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sweet, a link in a summary to the summary itself. Just what I've always wanted!

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    1. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by mortonda · · Score: 2, Funny

      OH no, you know what that means? We all just RTFA. I think that signals the end of the world or something.

    2. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by idontgno · · Score: 5, Funny

      Circular reference for nerds. Dupe optimization that matters.

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    3. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is a meta article. The real article comes later.

    4. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by mentaldrano · · Score: 4, Funny

      Circular reference for nerds. Dupe optimization that matters.

    5. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Sweet, a link in a summary to the summary itself. Just what I've always wanted!

      Indeed, what an earth-shattering innovation!

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    6. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Sweet, a link in a summary to the summary itself. Just what I've always wanted!

      Makes sense. The video's in the summary! So the video clip is in the summary about a video clip, thus, the link points to the summary since the video referenced in the summary is in the summary.

    7. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by u38cg · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yo dawg, I put an injoke in your injoke so you can...aww screw it. Yo momma fat.

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    8. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      If an article links to itself but no one clicks it, is it still a dupe?

    9. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by gbrandt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Most nerds would call it recursive, not circular reference.

      Besides, I prefer techno-weenie.

    10. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 1

      The video's in the summary!

      Except in Safari, no such embedded video appears.

      My demographic is not irrelevant, I tell you!

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    11. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sweet, a link in a summary to the summary itself. Just what I've always wanted!

      Makes sense. The video's in the summary! So the video clip is in the summary about a video clip, thus, the link points to the summary since the video referenced in the summary is in the summary.

      *head asplodes*

    12. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by Rary · · Score: 1

      Sweet, a link in a summary to the summary itself. Just what I've always wanted!

      The link makes sense (sort of) if you click it from the main page, since it takes you to the summary, wherein the video is found (which is "TFA"). Of course, it's redundant if you click it from here.

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    13. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ah, but you see, Grasshopper, to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion!

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    14. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, their video embedding code sucks if you use Safari. That is to say, no video appears.

      As I said in another comment: my demographic is not irrelevant, I tell you!

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    15. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by friedmud · · Score: 1

      Worked fine in Safari on OSX for me...

    16. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Hmm. Well, fine, I didn't want to watch it anyway. :/

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    17. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by SaDan · · Score: 1

      Leave it to Slashdot to successfully divide by zero... by accident, of course.

    18. Re:Fixy Linky Please? :) by metaforest · · Score: 1

      linky was never broken on Safari. Just took a while for it to silently cache the video.

      But it did break the site navigation :/

      YMMV

  9. reminds me of an old joke by justleavealonemmmkay · · Score: 1

    after the quake, it's still running Solaris.

  10. Andre 3000 by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 1

    of outkast, many many many times better than the black eyed peas.

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    1. Re:Andre 3000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      outkast, many many many times better than the black eyed peas.

      Agreed. Of course, 0 x "many, many, many" = 0.

    2. Re:Andre 3000 by sunking2 · · Score: 1

      Ya, shit. I knew that. Sorry. Either way one of those annoying songs you can't seem to get out of your head.

  11. It's like Recursion... by arhhook · · Score: 1

    ...it's so simple, beautiful, elegant, yet sometimes I wonder wtf its doing.

    1. Re:It's like Recursion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, get a load of the STACK on that recursion!

      (People like us get sent to one of them special places in hell, don't we)

  12. SSD by Taimat · · Score: 1

    Solid State I'm assuming????

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  13. Old news. by Trentus · · Score: 2, Informative

    I knew there was something familiar about this. I stumbled upon it on a slow day at work a couple of years ago. The video is dated 2007 at the end.

  14. Where are the tape libraries? by HockeyPuck · · Score: 1

    When they can have this type of earthquake and not have any IO errors from the disks nor do any tapes fall off the walls of the inside of the tape library, then I'll call this a success. As someone that has had to retrieve a tape that was dropped by the robot of an old STK "Powderhorn", this would be a pain.

    1. Re:Where are the tape libraries? by Obliterous · · Score: 1

      you still use tape?!? is that you, great-gran-pa?

    2. Re:Where are the tape libraries? by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      One can use the most current hardware and software and STILL have clients that use legacy systems... some clients for 15 years plus.

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    3. Re:Where are the tape libraries? by SaDan · · Score: 1

      Off-line backups are great.

      When are we going to have hard drive robots?

  15. that happened to silicon valley in 1989 by peter303 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Everyone has pictures of racks sliding across the room and CRT terminals dangling from desktops. The surprising thing was how much rebooted immediately after the power returned. And even in that year the pre-web internet was more reliable than the phone company. Email worked better than many phones.

  16. Interesting, but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about Hurricanes, Floods or Volcanoes. Are they covered yet?

  17. A 6.7 Earthquake? by dingen · · Score: 1

    Whatever happened to giving units along with numbers, so the numbers will actually mean somthing? I'm assuming Richter here, but as we all know assumption is the mother of all screw ups.

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    1. Re:A 6.7 Earthquake? by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      Richter?!? Damn near killed 'er!

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  18. Link not working? by TheCreeep · · Score: 1

    I think the link in the article has been slashdotted.

    1. Re:Link not working? by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      If it had been slashdotted, you couldn't post here. It links straight to the summary itself.

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  19. Has Sun actually sold any real # of BlackBoxes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They've had them for a couple of years now, however the only one I've ever heard of being installed was at Stanford (and I think Sun maybe donated that one?)

    1. Re:Has Sun actually sold any real # of BlackBoxes? by rackserverdeals · · Score: 1

      According to this article on the modular datacenter it seems like they started doing better after they changed their name. Guess even a big company needs to worry about SEO? :)

      The coolest (literally I guess) was where the put 50 of these in an abandoned mine in Japan. The mine had a constant, low temperature which would reduce cooling costs.

      They mention 4 other customers in that article which is over a year old. There are probably more.

      The nice thing is that you can also get Sun remote monitoring of the boxes. So if they detect a fault, they can alert a local non claustrophobic service provider to swap out a drive or whatever. Though your IT staff might miss having a NASA like command and control center.

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    2. Re:Has Sun actually sold any real # of BlackBoxes? by rackserverdeals · · Score: 1

      I just ran across this link that shows where sun modular datacenters have been deployed. Looks like a couple dozen. Dosn't give much information on them thouhg.

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  20. 1994? by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 1

    Is it just me, or does the video indicate this was recorded January 17th, 1994?

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    1. Re:1994? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was replaying motion data recorded from an earthquake that occurred in 1994

      There is no date for when the tests occurred though

    2. Re:1994? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HNGM-rje7U The same video on YouTube, posted by Sun in 2007

    3. Re:1994? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I saw a (c) 2007 at the end of the film. Still a couple of years old.

  21. Energy release of an earthquake by jonfr · · Score: 1

    Energy release by Mw6.7 Earthquake is as following.

    6.7 16.2 megatons (TNT) 67.9 PJ (Joule equivalent)

    See more here.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale

    Most things can survive Mw6.7 earthquake just fine. The question is, can it survive Mw7.0 earthquake or bigger. A earthquake that is Mw6.7 is just strong.

  22. yay! cant wait to see what happens when by nimbius · · Score: 3, Informative

    my manager sees this shit.

    now whenever i mention colocation and its impending budget, ill have this godforsaken thing thrown in my face. important facts like "way outside its normal envelope" will fall to the wayside as superbox 9000 will solve all the companies woes, cause our shareholders to sing, and increase productivity by big number!

    then, when i integrate it with both the cloud and the grid infrastructure, ill see a completely service oriented architecture designed to leverage our aging, proprietary, uncompetitive, lazy, and barely piece of suck ass assets to rocket us in direct competition with google, before we overtake microsoft!

    glad they tested it, but sad it was never really emphasized the box shouldn't be guaranteed to specifications that resemble porn.

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    1. Re:yay! cant wait to see what happens when by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thats awesome to see. If you didnt watch the video, do it. They show the Racks inside the container flopping back and forth. Cool stuff. Ive always like Sun hardware, I think with the quality it maintains and with sun micorosystem developing the OS, it comes down to having an extremely reliable Server that a PC cannot match.

      It really is too bad you can run more software on Suns.. Here, at work, we run ArcGIS applications, and its based around .NET and MS SQL ... If it was up to me, it would be Sun boxes with oracle and VI to do our web development.

    2. Re:yay! cant wait to see what happens when by rackserverdeals · · Score: 1

      There is an ArcGIS Java SDK and some ArcGIS applications developed with it if you want to look into it.

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  23. This is from June 2007 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That video was posted by Sun in 2007: here

  24. The real test... by LabRat007 · · Score: 3, Funny

    They need to test if Data Centers can survive a Myth Busters taping. Thats a REAL test.

    http://www.kcra.com/cnn-news/19016582/detail.html

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  25. Your shaken milage may vary by MountainLogic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I designed a navigation display product some years ago for shipborne application (think bridge of supertankers) and we put it through a standard shake & vibe test. Everything came through fine except the video was scruzled. At first we assumed the CRTs died but upon investigation we found that the connectors on the MB ate their way through the gold fingers on the PCI video card. As electrical engineers we learned a lot of hard lessons. Shake and vibe are tough and since every system is going to have different harmonics it is hard to generalize. Simple rules of thumb and intuition may serve you poorly. In some cases shock mounts made things worse.

    1. Re:Your shaken milage may vary by Thaelon · · Score: 1

      If you bolt it together securely enough shouldn't it shake & vibe at all the same frequency?

      I mean, the only reason the video card and the motherboard could be said to have a single frequency each is that all of their components are securely connected (right down to the atomic level in some cases), and they're not very flexible.

      So in theory, if you simply held the two components together strongly enough (you probably don't need to achieve the strength of molecular bonds), wouldn't they act as a unified body and thus have the same resonating frequency? If they don't run too hot you could just fill the damn thing with epoxy and be done with it.

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    2. Re:Your shaken milage may vary by metaforest · · Score: 1

      yeah shipboard environments are rough on connectors for a lot of reasons... which is why the use special connectors.... and why marine grade gear costs easily 10x that of consumer gear for similar function. Sounds like your dev team didn't do their homework.

  26. racks? by manif3st · · Score: 1
    "it's still kind of neat to see a bunch of racks shake"

    Every once in a while, editors get to approve the best things...

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  27. Simulated, Heck we went through a real 6.8... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...just outside of Seattle in 2001. Our two dozen server racks (and servers) were fine, except for the moron contractors who neglected to screw down the servers in their rack. The servers acted as battering rams and busted the door off the Compaq rack. So always take the time to get that equipment bolted down tight kiddies.

  28. The question is... by lpp · · Score: 1

    ... will it blend?

  29. Click it twice... by MiniMike · · Score: 1

    and you get rickrolled. Is that better?

    1. Re:Click it twice... by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 1

      I...wait, what?

      Anyhow, this is making it exceedingly difficult to post without having RTFA. :(

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  30. Future improvements... by JakFrost · · Score: 1

    I noticed the racks swaying quite a lot during the test probably because they were bolted down to the floor as a standard procedure with data centers. I think that for the next design of their "black box" system they should also bolt them to the ceiling to prevent the swaying of the racks and this would probably also solve the grill damage problem seen on the top of the rack along with structural damage like buckling, bending, twisting in the body of the server racks.

    The hard piping issue of using copper tube pipes for heat transfer with glycol or water might pose another problem, luckily copper is more malleable than other piping alternatives so the pipes would likely bend and deform easier before breaking or shearing due to the random motions.

    This little problem of cables falling out happens in regular data centers all the time due to heat expansion/contraction creep, loose connectors, or accidental unplugging is an old problem but an easy one to fix. A little loop connector or cable-tie for the power cable mounted to the back of the case as seen on Compaq and HP server systems would take care of any cables falling out of the receptacles.

  31. Innovative power cords? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    thats what sun is spending money on before its taken over?

    Do you expect all development and innovation to stop the moment one mentions the word IBM? I'm glad to see Sun innovating and proving that their technology is reliable.

    Funny how a million dollars worth of Engineering and R&D can look like shit when the power cord falls off...

  32. Am I th eonly person... by MrNemesis · · Score: 1

    ...who has no idea what "shake like a polaroid" means? Last I knew, a polaroid was a instant camera using chemical-based films, and was not intimately connected with geological stressing.

    Can someone please demonstrate what a shaking polaroid looks like so I don't feel like I'm missing out on hacker lingo.

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    1. Re:Am I th eonly person... by Dynedain · · Score: 1

      Common technique to get a poloroid to develop faster was to shake it as if you were fanning something. Exposure to air was part of the chemical process.

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    2. Re:Am I th eonly person... by atomic-penguin · · Score: 1

      ...who has no idea what "shake like a polaroid" means? Last I knew, a polaroid was a instant camera using chemical-based films, and was not intimately connected with geological stressing.

      Can someone please demonstrate what a shaking polaroid looks like so I don't feel like I'm missing out on hacker lingo.

      Aside from shaking a Polaroid picture to speed up the development process, it is also a pop culture reference. Shake it like a Polaroid picture!

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      /^([Ss]ame [Bb]at (time, |channel.)){2}$/
    3. Re:Am I th eonly person... by Don_dumb · · Score: 1

      It's a reference to the old practice of shaking an instant (Polariod) picture to get it to dry faster. Also a now famous line from the song "Hey Ya" by OutKast and the second reason is probably why it's been tagged that way.

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  33. Next sim needs crash test dummies by globeadue · · Score: 2, Funny

    Lol what about the poor SOB who's in that tin can doing maintenance on the server when the earthquake hits.

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  34. link back to the post and no link to video? by alonsoac · · Score: 1

    as I was trying to figure out how to actually see the video and clicking on the link like an idiot just to get back to the same place, I figured out that a large blank space below the text is where the video is supposed to be. Since it seems it is slashdotted I cannot see it. It would be better if you could just give the link in the text so I can save it and look later and/or at least say that the video is below.

    1. Re:link back to the post and no link to video? by brentonboy · · Score: 1

      as I was trying to figure out how to actually see the video and clicking on the link like an idiot just to get back to the same place, I figured out that a large blank space below the text is where the video is supposed to be. Since it seems it is slashdotted I cannot see it. It would be better if you could just give the link in the text so I can save it and look later and/or at least say that the video is below.

      I am having the same experience. Has slashdot slashdotted itself by hosting a video?

  35. The server cage is fine, what about the facility ? by billcopc · · Score: 1

    Sure, the servers survived the quake, but what of the datancenter itself ? I would not be surprised if THEIR power mains or network uplinks went to shit after such a rumble.

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  36. Oooooooold! by Evildonald · · Score: 1

    I saw this at least 3-4 years ago.

  37. No news like old news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The tests were done in 1994 according to the video. Not exactly fresh news...

  38. 6.7 only? by antdude · · Score: 1

    How a 7, 8, or even 9? :D

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  39. Evil experiment under sun light? by microbee · · Score: 1

    I can't believe it. So a bunch of corporate suckers emulate an earthquake to advance their technology? In the core of Silicon Valley? Where is Spiderman?

  40. Nope by Don_dumb · · Score: 1

    "Hey Ya" by OutKast. Best pop song of the new millennium, haven't found anyone yet who dislikes it.

    (Apart from the freaks on here who I'm sure would love the chance to dislike)

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  41. Re:The server cage is fine, what about the facilit by rackserverdeals · · Score: 1

    Sure, the servers survived the quake, but what of the datancenter itself ? I would not be surprised if THEIR power mains or network uplinks went to shit after such a rumble.

    The box is the center. The only hookups are hot and water lines, ethernet and power.

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  42. So that's... by DiLLeMaN · · Score: 1

    ...what they mean with Solaris on Sun being super-stable? You can shake it and it'll still run? On a more serious note... I heard about the blackbox before; I also recall reading something about other vendors doing a similar thing. I thought the almighty Google used containers in some places as well. Is there any data about how the competition is handling stuff like this? Heck, it might even be the start of a my-dick-is-bigger-than-your-dick list similar to the top 500 supercomputers list: which machine(s) can handle the most abuse?

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  43. Shake it like a Polaroid... by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

    Go back to MySpace and stay there until you learn how to speak better than a awful pop video.

  44. 2007? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So the video is already about two years old as the copyright note at the end states 2007?

    1. Re:2007? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, I see, this has been brought up multiple times before -- sorry for that redundant post. Those hidden comments appear ... totally hidden to me!

  45. Tri-X, E-6, CibaChrome?? yes. by quist · · Score: 1

    Yes, Tri-X lives on, available for 55 yrs+ in 135 format. and for color reversal prints (direct positive process), Ilford CibaChrome continues under the name Ilfochrome Classic. You can still make ArT and it is still pricey.