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Conviction of Sen. Ted Stevens Is Thrown Out

A federal judge has thrown out the conviction of the senator who educated us all about the true nature of the Internet. Ted Stevens had been convicted last fall of lying about free home renovations that he received from an oil contractor, 8 days before he lost his Senate re-election bid. The judge blasted the US Department of Justice prosecutors for mishandling the case in ways that might rise to the level of criminality. "In 25 years on the bench, I have never seen anything approach the mishandling and misconduct in this case," Judge Emmet G. Sullivan said. He called the allegations "shocking and disturbing." According to the article, "Several jurors have told The Washington Post that the evidence against Stevens was overwhelming during a month-long trial that ended in October."

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  1. Still Sounds Guilty to Me by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Much of the hearing today focused on what transpired during an April 15, 2008, interview with the key witness, Bill Allen. During that interview, according to notes taken by two of the prosecutors, Allen said he did not recall talking to a friend of Stevens's about sending the senator a bill for work on his home, according to Sullivan.

    Under oath at trial, however, Allen testified that he was told by the friend to ignore a note Stevens sent seeking a bill for the remodeling work.

    "Bill, don't worry about getting a bill" for Stevens, Allen said the friend told him. "Ted is just covering his [expletive]."

    Ok, so we have Ted Stevens asking for a bill on the remodeling, like he should. But it sounds like one was never received or produced. So what was Stevens convicted of?

    After a month-long trial, Stevens was convicted of not reporting on Senate disclosure forms that he accepted about $250,000 in gifts and free renovations to his home in Girdwood, Alaska. Most of the gifts and free remodeling work were supplied by Bill Allen, chief executive of Veco, a now-defunct oil services company.

    Ok, regardless of whether or not an invoice was ever produced, the Senate is required to report things like this on their financial disclosure forms so that under the table payments can be discovered. It still sounds like he's guilty for failing to put "I just got these bitching additions to my house from this contractor for $0." Which should spark an investigation.

    My point is whether they find him guilty or not, he failed his duties as a senator. It's a shame the prosecution botched this case and withheld that evidence from the court as he's still guilty of failing to disclose this information publicly on his financial disclosure form.

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    1. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Much of the hearing today focused on what transpired during an April 15, 2008, interview with the key witness, Bill Allen. During that interview, according to notes taken by two of the prosecutors, Allen said he did not recall talking to a friend of Stevens's about sending the senator a bill for work on his home, according to Sullivan.

      Under oath at trial, however, Allen testified that he was told by the friend to ignore a note Stevens sent seeking a bill for the remodeling work.

      "Bill, don't worry about getting a bill" for Stevens, Allen said the friend told him. "Ted is just covering his [expletive]."

      Ok, so we have Ted Stevens asking for a bill on the remodeling, like he should. But it sounds like one was never received or produced. So what was Stevens convicted of?

      After a month-long trial, Stevens was convicted of not reporting on Senate disclosure forms that he accepted about $250,000 in gifts and free renovations to his home in Girdwood, Alaska. Most of the gifts and free remodeling work were supplied by Bill Allen, chief executive of Veco, a now-defunct oil services company.

      Ok, regardless of whether or not an invoice was ever produced, the Senate is required to report things like this on their financial disclosure forms so that under the table payments can be discovered. It still sounds like he's guilty for failing to put "I just got these bitching additions to my house from this contractor for $0." Which should spark an investigation.

      My point is whether they find him guilty or not, he failed his duties as a senator. It's a shame the prosecution botched this case and withheld that evidence from the court as he's still guilty of failing to disclose this information publicly on his financial disclosure form.

      If it weren't the procedural flaws in the prosecution's case it would have likely been something else getting the conviction overturned. Stevens is way too wealthy and politically connected to be punished for any crime.

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    2. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by palegray.net · · Score: 5, Funny

      While I agree with most of your points, I think it's safe to say that the jury's verdict has definitely gone down the tubes.

    3. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Stevens is way too wealthy and politically connected to be punished for any crime.

      Believe it or not, I don't believe those played a factor in the DOJ dropping the case. Apparently, Holder felt it more important to punish the prosecution on this one than nail Senator Tubes. Some of the factors claimed to play into his decision were the facts that Stevens is 85 (unlikely to be able to serve much jail time), no longer a sitting Senator, and that any movement forward on this case would be tainted.

      As for whether or not he's innocent or not is irrelevant at this point. He never got a fair trial. And without a fair trial, the justice system cannot prove something one way or another. He'll probably be remembered by the public as a guilty bastard, and never manage anything else for the remainder of his life. He's permanently retired now, which is the worst part that would have come from the conviction. Not the fine or the trip to Club Fed.

    4. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by hedwards · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's the way the system works. Sort of like the first Simpson trial. The LAPD definitely engaged in tactics that were unethical to say the least and he got off the hook largely because of that. Was he actually guilty? I don't think we'll ever know, but there was definitely manufactured evidence that tainted things enough to get him off.

      It's a shame in a sense because he wasn't really cleared in the mind of the public and he didn't serve time either. But that's what we've got.

      I suspect that's what Stevens is going to be getting as well. No prison, but uncleanably tainted reputation.

    5. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You know, I'm just a lowly member of the unwashed masses, not one of the oligarchical leaders who are above the "law" and all, but when a contractor does major remodeling work for me and never bills me for it--I tend to notice it. Now maybe Ted has people who handle his bills for him (again, not lowering himself to our filthy level), but I find it hard to believe that his people just forgot about a major renovation.

      I also doubt that the contractor just forgot to send the bill. Most contractors I know don't do that either. Maybe it was one of those magic contractors that doesn't charge for their services.

      I don't buy for a second that this was anything less than what it appears to be--a wink/wink, nudge/nudge kind of situation where a contractor (or person behind the contractor) was bribing the good senator in hopes (nay, in EXPECTATION) of a little favoritism when Alaska's earmark windfalls were divided up. I don't care how good Steven's lawyers are--this looks, quacks, and waddles just like a duck and that indicates a duck to me.

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    6. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by InsaneProcessor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wait a minute. If I ask you for the bill or invoice on work you did for me and did not produce it, I am still waiting for it, why is this a gift? I am still waiting for the bill so I can pay it.

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    7. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by Kozz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Coming soon to a bookstore near you: If I Renovated It, Here's How It Happened.

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    8. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by Shining+Celebi · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bush didn't clear house in the DoJ like previous Presidents had in an attempt for both sides to get along. Most of the prosecutors on this case were leftovers from Clinton.

      Then what's up with this press release from the DoJ under Bush saying that a third had submitted their resignations by March 14th and the remaining lawyers were set to be "transitioned" by June? Why did Gonzalez's Chief of Staff claim they fired all the Clinton appointees, with most gone by April 2001?

      The Department of Justice isn't supposed to be full of partisan hacks, and most of them aren't. Just because the case was against a prominent Republican Senator doesn't mean Democratic lawyers were on the case. That's why there was such a big hullaboo about the firings of DoJ lawyers for political reasons. Those lawyers were Bush appointees, and they were allegedly fired because they weren't going after enough Democrats.

    9. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Either Simpson was innocent but only a person with millions to hire a dream team legal defense could overcome police corruption and a county willing to bankrupt itself to get a conviction anyway or he was actually guilty but showed that if you have the money for a dream team defense, you can beat any indictment, including murder.

      Either way, as a result of the trial, we know the FBI's crime lab thinks there's a place for voting in science and god knows what other unacceptable practices. Neither possible scenario paints the justice system or police/FBI in a good light.

    10. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Right. I'm puzzled at why so many here are knee-jerkedly boo-ing the court's decision. Slashdotters are supposed to be freedom-loving folks who demand that law enforcement and prosecution play by the rules. I bet they'd be cheering the decision if it were Stallman or TBP's asses on the line. Overzealous law enforcement and prosecution is a BIG problem these days, especially since Bush took charge.

      It's time we slap their wrists and say "No! Bad lawyer! Bad Cop!" and make 'em sit in the corner for awhile. They don't play by the rules, they face punishment through the very laws they claim to be upholding. Sanction their asses.

      I'd rather see a few O.J.s or Ted Stevens go free than thousands of innocents jailed through miscarriages of justice!

    11. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by DM9290 · · Score: 2, Funny

      that he is an innocent man who was framed?

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    12. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Very false dichotomy, as there is a third possibility. He was the murder, and the victim of a corrupt investigation. However, he had the wealth and status to hire a dream team defense and beat a murder indictment that he, paradoxically, both deserved (because committed murder) and did not deserve (because the government cannot be allowed to break the law to enforce the law).

      Unfortunately, the way this paradox was resolved is was probably the best we could hope for, jury nullification on the criminal charges and civil penalties leveled against him. The other possibilities are worse in at least one, perhaps multiple, senses of the word "justice". An accquited OJ with, no civil penalties, would have been complete injustice for the murder victims families, and to a lesser extent society at large. OJ in jail would have been a just punishment for the crime murder, but convicting anyone, even actual criminals, as a result of a grossly incompotent and corrupt investigation would make society less just by reducing the State's burden of proof. That's reality for you...

    13. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by Shining+Celebi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Now you can go bicker in a wikipedia discussion about whether or not the article about this 'scandal' deserves to contain the word "unprecedented" in the title.

      The scandal wasn't about the Bush administration replacing Department of Justice lawyers with their own appointees, as many Presidents have done before. The scandal was about the Bush Administration, particularly Gonzalez and Sampson, firing Bush-appointed lawyers who weren't "performing" well enough. There's a big difference. Especially since the DoJ is supposed to be nonpartisan, and the criterion for performance seemed to be whether or not you pursued indictments against Democrats before or after election-time.

    14. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by pugugly · · Score: 2, Informative

      Factually incorrect (As I suspected it might be. Apologies, but your statement smelled unlikely, simply based on the rules for pardons typically respected by Presidents. Bush was atypical.)

      From the Wikipedia article "In 1996, he pleaded guilty to reduced charges of mail fraud. He was fined and was sentenced to 17 months in prison, of which he served 15. Rostenkowski was pardoned in December 2000 by President Clinton."

      Basically at that point the pardon was symbolic - he had served his time, admitted his guilt, et al.

      Pug

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    15. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Which I doubt he'll care too much about, considering that he's 85. I don't know about you, but if I were 85 where the current life expectancy is in the high 70's, and I had a lifetime pension from the Senate (which he'll likely get to keep now that the conviction has been thrown out), I wouldn't care what anyone thought about my reputation. More than likely, I wouldn't live long enough for it to matter much.

      Just to play Devil's Advocate - I'll suggest another possibility. People of power like to think in terms of immortality. You buy a mausoleum. You establish institutions. And if you're a public servant, you consider your "legacy." You want history to record you as a person who stood out in your time in office; even an individual who did great things. Stevens has already had a taste of history (often he's noted as being the longest sitting Republican in the Senate). Surely he would have preferred it if people remembered him that way, not for corruption.

    16. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by Moryath · · Score: 2, Informative

      Prosecutors withheld evidence from the defense.

      They did so knowing that they were violating the law, and did so deliberately to influence the result of an election.

      The election results, at the very least, deserve to be thrown out. This was despicable. Moreover, as far as Democrats, this was just business as usual.

    17. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by DrgnDancer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah, um, you might not have noticed, but the President at the time, was a Republican as was his Attorney General. How did the Democrats manage this feat of bi-partisanship? This seems much more likely to have been a case of incompetence and overzealous prosecution than deliberate political sabotage. Why would the Bush DOJ want Stevens to lose for political reason?

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    18. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by sribe · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, if you'd followed the trial, you'd know that he did a whole heck of a lot of renovations, and actually paid for a lot of them. In that context, not noticing having never received an additional bill for more work is at least plausible, unlike having never received the bill.

    19. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by DenDude · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, but let's not forget that Sarah Palin also thought that Africa was a country.

      Wow, still going with this one? http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/arts/television/13hoax.html?_r=3&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

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    20. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by Moryath · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here we have an example of a pure idiot who cannot grasp the simple fact that the prosecutors in the case are all lifelong Democrats.

      Then again, I've never known PopeRatzo to let these pesky "facts" get in the way of his insane ramblings.

    21. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by Moryath · · Score: 4, Informative

      See response to "PopeRatzo."

      The prosecutors involved in this malicious, illegal prosecution "just so happen" to be lifelong Democrats. The "Bush DOJ" had nothing to do with it.

    22. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by FishWithAHammer · · Score: 2, Informative

      The justice system is about accounting for crimes. Preventing them sounds nice but is likely not possible.

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    23. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by ameyer17 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I bet he thinks Clinton was commander-in-chief on 9/11, too. Don't laugh. I've heard it said on "conservative" talk radio.

      To be fair, Clinton does deserve blame for some of what led to 9/11, even though he wasn't in office on 9/11.
      Then again, the blame goes at least as far back as Reagan giving Osama weapons to fight the Soviets with.

    24. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by anagama · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why doesn't this get modded up when the partisan "it's the fault of the Democrats" or "it's the fault of the Republicans" goes to "+5 myopic"? I can say with 100% certainty that 99.999% of our political problems are due to the Republicans and/or Democrats. So why don't we jettison them all?

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    25. Re:Still Sounds Guilty to Me by 7Prime · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I hate to break it to you, but there's absolutely NOTHING partisian about this in the slightest... unless Republicans are going after their own these days. The department of justice is a "neutral" body in a conservative state, and is directly under the reigns of a very conservative governor (more conservative than Uncle Ted). There's not a single card-carrying democrat involved here. Hell, there are very few card-carrying democrats in the state of Alaska! The AK Justice Department has a history of being very right-leaning. THEY'RE the ones who indicted him, and THEY'RE the ones who screwed up the case.

      I'd be more inclined to believe that they purposefully botched the thing in order to make sure Ted didn't go to jail.

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  2. Is He Guilty by socalmtb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What is annoying here is this doesn't mean he isn't guilty - it's just that the prosecutors really messed up.

    1. Re:Is He Guilty by tchdab1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Right - the prosecution is required by law to share all the evidence it has with the defense. It's called disclosure. Watch the movie "My Cousin Vinnie" for an explanation.
      Because the prosecution withheld evidence important from the defense, that is enough to throw out the charges. Doesn't matter if it's post-conviction.
      Legally Ted "inter-tubes" Stevens is no longer guilty, and he will shout that to the world from now on.

      And governor Palin cries for a re-election for Steven's former senate seat, to address the wrongdoing. I wonder if she also supports freeing Aymen Batarfi, a gitmo detainee from whose defense the government also withheld substantial evidence. Maybe she'll grant him asylum in Alaska.

    2. Re:Is He Guilty by dogmatixpsych · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Au contraire! The exact opposite is true. Sen. Stevens is not (legally) guilty. What you meant to say is that "this doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong." Our court system still stands on the belief of innocence until proven guilt. His guilt was not proven, so he is innocent.

      He might have done no wrong too; we don't know. We don't have all the facts and can't say for sure (or at least beyond reasonable doubt) that he is guilty so, according to our legal system, he is innocent

      I'm not defending Sen. Stevens but I am defending our legal system. For all its flaws (there are many), it is the best legal system in the world. Maybe that's not saying much but for the most part, it works.

    3. Re:Is He Guilty by bradgoodman · · Score: 5, Interesting
      No - Because the prosecution withheld evidence, that should be grounds for the defense to appeal for a new trial in which that evidence may be suppressed - or maybe not even suppressed, now that the defense does know about it.

      To set aside the whole verdict - man, that takes some real stones.

      It's also frustrating how little about the specifics that are even revealed in the press. There's got to be a much bigger story in all this.

    4. Re:Is He Guilty by Abreu · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's called disclosure. Watch the movie "My Cousin Vinnie" for an explanation.

      You don't need an excuse to watch that movie, it's great by itself!

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    5. Re:Is He Guilty by AK+Marc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Our court system still stands on the belief of innocence until proven guilt.

      Yes.

      His guilt was not proven, so he is innocent.

      Now you lost me. So if I kill someone in cold blood. Take pictures of me doing it. Have video. Have 100,000 witnesses. And I get my trial thrown out on a technicality, does that mean I'm "innocent"? Hell no. I'd still be a murderer. Just not a convicted murdered. "Innocent" isn't even a legal term. that you use it like it is a finding of a court shows you have no idea what you are talking about. At best, a court can find you not guilty. And even that is just saying that they were unable to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. That's what they find, not "innocent." Someone is either guilty or innocent based of fact. Either they did what they are accused of or they didn't. No court can ever change that. The court can only decide, based on information available, whether that can be proven. If they find the opposite of what really happened, that doesn't change reality. You can be innocent and be found guilty. It happens all the time. You can be guilty and be found not guilty. That happens all the time too. And the presumption of innocence has nothing to do with that.

      The presumption of innocence is a guideline for treatment during trial. Not before. Not after. Not outside the courtroom. Not in public opinion polls. Just for how the court should act after trial has already started until it is complete. Anyone that gives it any more weight than that has no idea what they are talking about.

      And if you are wondering why, think of it this way, if the cop presumed everyone innocent, then they'd never be allowed to arrest anyone, after all, you don't arrest people you believe to be innocent, that's unethical and illegal. And when setting bail, do the judges say "well, we think you are innocent, so we'll let you go on your own recognisance"? Hell no. They set bail on the presumption of guilt. It's just the treatment during trial and only during trial that's effected. They let you dress in a suit to look good, rather than dragging you in front of the jury in a jail suit, which would prejudice them against you. They force the burden of proof on the prosecution. They give you in-trial concessions only to help you mount an effective defense. It was never meant to be something that warped reality to force innocence upon those who are not. It was never meant to be something that alters my freedom of thought and speach (OJ is a murderer, even if he was found not guilty, and Stevens is a corrupt bastard, even if his conviction doesn't stick). It is a court guideline to be used in trial only for how to treat them during the trial, and nothing more.

    6. Re:Is He Guilty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I see... so the prosecution should feel free to withhold evidence arbitrarily, in hopes that the defense won't notice...? And if they do, they just get to start their case over from scratch at the taxpayers expense?

      Hate to say it--but if you architect a system prone to abuse--people will abuse it. If you want people to cooperate honestly--they need good incentives to do so. Punishment works just as well--the prosecution should know that if they cheat--they lose *everything*--that way the cost of misconduct is so high as to make it nearly inconceivable.

      I'll admit...I don't find it entirely implausible that the guy may have bribed the prosecution to carry out the case unprofessionally, and used that and double jeopardy as a get out of jail free card (a problem which should be fixed). But discounting that possibility--the system's worked as intended here for once. Innocent or Guilty--someone engaged in an abuse of power to get the guilty verdict--and that crime is so dangerous that they must be let free to set an example to all prosecutors never to engage in such misconduct.

      The abuse of power by the state in a prosecution is more dangerous than the abuse one individual (even representing the state) in any other manner. Quite simply--the verdict was not valid by any conceivable interpretation once it was demonstrated that the prosecution was willing and able to behave unethically, and even if it was valid...an example needs to be made whenever this occurs.

    7. Re:Is He Guilty by DrgnDancer · · Score: 4, Informative

      And again I feel compelled to mention that the President and AG during the this whole process were Republicans. Christ. This is the second brain dead: "The Dems trumped up charges to hurt a real conservative" post I've seen that totally ignores the fact that a Republican government did this. What did Obama go back in time and setup a "Shadow-DOJ" to do his bidding a year or more before his actual election?

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    8. Re:Is He Guilty by Russ+Southern · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Oh, my. How do you not understand just how critical presumed innocence is. Your examples miss the point entirely.

      Cops presume innocence until presented with probable cause. Without presumption of innocence, search and seizure would be effectively unlimited.

      Bail is set by judges after weighing the evidence presented preliminarily. Without presumption of innocence, why should there be bail at all?

      OJ may very well be a murderer, but he is innocent. Considering him--or any other person acquitted of a crime--to be "guilty" just because you think so, is a shameful miscarriage of justice, much less decency.

    9. Re:Is He Guilty by GauteL · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No. You completely miss the point of the parent, which is not about the importance of presumed innocence, but that fact != assumption.

      "OJ may very well be a murderer, but he is innocent."

      You don't know that. As the parent says 'innocent' or 'guilty' are based on facts, not on conviction. If he is the murderer then by definition he is not innocent.

      We presume that a person is innocent until proven guilty, we don't know that a person is innocent. Otherwise there would be no point in a trial.

      When a person is found 'not guilty', we are saying that we can not find sufficient evidence that our presumption is wrong. Therefore the legal system will continue to assume that the person is innocent.

      But assumption/presumption != fact, and so it is perfectly reasonable to disagree with the findings of the court and people are entitled to their opinion on the matter.

      In the case of OJ, he lost his civil case because on the balance of probability, the evidence presented suggests he is guilty.

      Because our requirements are higher than 'balance of probability' in a criminal case, the legal assumption is still that he is innocent. This is as it should be, otherwise we would convict many, many innocent people.

      However, my personal opinion does not require any more than 'balance of probability' and I thus believe OJ is guilty. I may be correct or I may be wrong, we will never know for sure, and that is why OJ was still walking the streets after the case.

      You are unlikely to have enough information to say that he is innocent.

  3. YRO? Seriously? by WED+Fan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is this YRO?

    Now, the process that have freed this sleeze-ball are also the processes that help in preventing the innocent from being railroaded. I'd rather free an occasional sleeze than see a lot of innocents convicted unjustly.

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    1. Re:YRO? Seriously? by palegray.net · · Score: 2

      The tubes are the only link. That said, the Slashdot community greatly enjoys poking fun at technically inept public officials who attempt to claim advanced knowledge of technical fields. Slashdotters also love jabbing at corrupt politicians, especially when said pols fit the first category as well. I enjoyed every bit of news on Stevens I could get.

    2. Re:YRO? Seriously? by Wrath0fb0b · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why is this YRO?

      Because Stevens was represented by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_%26_Connolly, who are the firm in DC for this sort of thing. Even with the absolute best lawyers money can buy, the prosecution still stepped all over his basic right to a fair trial. That makes me wonder how the DOJ treats regular defendants that haven't retained the best law firm in the beltway.

      This is YRO (well, YR) because if the rich and powerful (and almost certainly corrupt, although it seems that he might not have been corrupt in the manner charged) cannot get a fair trial, then it's pretty damned clear than no one can.

  4. This is bullshit by linzeal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Procedural mistakes should not overturn convictions that are this overwhelming. The practice of law used to require one book, when we found this nation maybe a 100 now there are 10's of thousands of books involving the law in various aspects and it has gotten to be too much. We need to reboot the justice department by rewriting the laws so they are prudent, consistent and concise.

    1. Re:This is bullshit by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I disagree. His reputation is shredded. He's 80+ years old. Seems like a fair trade to me.

      The 'mistakes' by the prosecutors were pretty egregious. Overturning the verdict is reasonable in this situation. As is not retrying him based on his age and being out of the Senate.

      It's not technically 'justice', but in the end it seems like a fair compromise.

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    2. Re:This is bullshit by kalirion · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Procedural mistakes should not overturn convictions that are this overwhelming.

      How are you going to judge what is overwhelming and what isn't? It is far more in societies interest that prosecutors and cops start going by the book, even if it means some potentially guilty parties go free.

      The practice of law used to require one book, when we found this nation maybe a 100 now there are 10's of thousands of books involving the law in various aspects and it has gotten to be too much. We need to reboot the justice department by rewriting the laws so they are prudent, consistent and concise.

      I agree with you there. But if you RTFA you'll see that it wasn't a simple mistake of ignorance of some obscure passage in a book. These were basic rules that the prosecutors broke.

    3. Re:This is bullshit by stonecypher · · Score: 5, Informative

      The practice of law used to require one book, when we found this nation maybe a 100

      This is complete fiction. The Shakers took years to produce our legal system, and produced nearly a thousand books to describe it. At no point has the legal system you described existed in this nation.

      Stop making points by making up stories.

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    4. Re:This is bullshit by Cube+Steak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Procedural mistakes should not overturn convictions that are this overwhelming.

      Exactly. Due process has no place in getting in the way of a prosecutor winning a case by lying, manipulating evidence and harassing witnesses.

    5. Re:This is bullshit by Trepidity · · Score: 2, Informative

      This isn't some nit-picking technical error, though. One of the prosecution's main witnesses contradicted his trial testimony in a recorded interview, which the prosecution deliberately withheld from the defense.

      Stevens is almost certainly still guilty, but I don't think you can now say that he was convicted at a fair trial, which is why if the DOJ still wished to convict him, they would have to move for a retrial.

    6. Re:This is bullshit by CorporateSuit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      disagree. His reputation is shredded. He's 80+ years old. Seems like a fair trade to me.

      The 'mistakes' by the prosecutors were pretty egregious. Overturning the verdict is reasonable in this situation. As is not retrying him based on his age and being out of the Senate.

      It's not technically 'justice', but in the end it seems like a fair compromise

      He's 80 years old, was extremely powerful a year ago, glaringly corrupt, and the GOP is trying to get him reinstated. Political corruption charges are perhaps the most dangerous type of charges to throw out on technicalities. The fact that one man (the judge) can overturn the jury of his peers on the basis that the lawyers who got him convicted did it wrong is proof that it takes only 2 corrupt men in a room full of people to get away with anything (and I'm sure your imagination has not yet stretched around what the word anything encompasses when it comes to corrupt men in federal power). If the people who paid Stevens money pay the judge or the prosecution enough money to "screw a few things up" then no politician can ever be imprisoned for corruption charges as long as that dynasty stands. This is the type of thing that will affect you extremely negatively in the near future. Perhaps you should bother yourself with looking past a man's age before letting a corrupt potentate return to power.

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    7. Re:This is bullshit by pigeon768 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Procedural mistakes should not overturn convictions that are this overwhelming.

      Procedural mistakes should absolutely overturn convictions, overwhelming or otherwise.

      As it is now, when the police are investigating a crime, or a prosecutor is building a case, they have the capability, legal or usually otherwise, to build a "overwhelming" case against someone who is completely and totally innocent of the specific crime. The reason they don't is partially ideological, but mostly because they know the case would be overturned on appeal, if the first judge even let the evidence be introduced. This is the reason we don't have prisons (gitmo aside) full of people innocent of the specific crime they were convicted for but aren't terribly well liked by the police and DA's office.

      Once the court system starts saying, "Well, this guy may or may not be innocent, but he sure does deserve to be in prison," we're all screwed. Initially, only about half of us are screwed, (the people who voted for the other guy) but eventually we all will be.

    8. Re:This is bullshit by arth1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Overturning the verdict is reasonable in this situation.

      Agreed.

      As is not retrying him based on his age and being out of the Senate.

      Now this, I can't agree on. People deserve an opportunity to clear their name through a re-trial, no matter what the age or circumstances. And the public deserves to see that Justitia really is blind, and don't let who you are and what you do (or no longer do) give you advantages over the next man.

      I think the only reasonable is that when a case gets overturned, a mandatory retrial takes place. As long as there is an opportunity, however small or convoluted, for people to cheat the system by having a case thrown out, that loophole will be exploited. By those with the power to exploit it.

    9. Re:This is bullshit by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is a fundamental tennant of US justice.

      You're saying the law can't be bought but it can be rented?

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    10. Re:This is bullshit by physicsphairy · · Score: 2, Informative

      The fact that one man (the judge) can overturn the jury of his peers on the basis that the lawyers who got him convicted did it wrong is proof that it takes only 2 corrupt men in a room full of people to get away with anything

      *Betting on being able to do that is a fairly absurd idea seeing as how you don't know beforehand who will comprise the judge and prosecution. If your assumption is just that everyone everywhere is bribable, well, in that case we're already screwed, and I think bribing six jurors would be easier and cheaper anyway.
      *Unless the system is already rife with corruption, I don't think you're quite considering how dangerous it is to approach said persons with the prospect of a bribe. Most likely, you would just wind up sealing your fate.
      *You forget that any decision a judge makes can be reviewed by other judges.
      *You forget that a corrupt senator may also be impeached by congress. (and if you think parties will stick up for their friends when they're tainted by public ire, see how many friends Gov. Blagojevich has)
      *You'll note that despite being reprieved, Ted Stevens was cost the election. In a democracy, gaming the system may keep you out of the pen, but merely being brought into court can see to the end of your political significance.

      I am all for punishing the guilty, but I don't think the expressed paranoia quite justifies abridging our present safeguards against malicious court proceedings. And it isn't as if having courts rigged more toward the prosecution couldn't also be used as a means of protecting (or exerting) high-level corruption.

  5. Hmmm.... by brian0918 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't think there should be a problem with what Stevens did. If the government were prohibited from interfering in the economy, there wouldn't be any incentive for a oil company to renovate a politician's house, of all things.

    In such situations, all I have to ask is, "where does the actual use of force come into play?" Answer that, and you'll know who is responsible for the violation of rights. In this case, as in the rest, the force - through selective laws that hinder competition and benefit a select few - is supplied by politicians.

    1. Re:Hmmm.... by Fallingcow · · Score: 2, Funny

      If the government were prohibited from interfering in the economy, there wouldn't be any incentive for a oil company to renovate a politician's house, of all things.

      Kind of like cutting off your arm to get rid of a hangnail, eh?

    2. Re:Hmmm.... by smellsofbikes · · Score: 2, Informative

      >If the government were prohibited from interfering in the economy, there wouldn't be any incentive for a oil company to renovate a politician's house

      While that's a nice thought, I challenge you to figure out how it would be implemented.
      If we force the federal government to do nothing other than exactly what the Constitution lets it, in the most conservative sense -- maintain armed forces for the defense of the land, regulate *actual* interstate commerce, which is to say only settling disputes between states and handling state-foreign state disputes -- the federal government would *still* interfere in the economy because it would be taking money out to pay for what it's doing, and it would be pumping money into some areas in pursuit of its duties. Both would be areas for corruption to thrive, just as corruption thrives now.
      If you rewrote the Constitution such that the federal government had zero funds and zero influence, if you essentially canceled it, then the individual states would provide similar functions and be just as full of corruption. If you get rid of them, then individual cities would do the same, and eventually down to homeowners' associations, I suppose. I read about graft and corruption involving parent-teacher association funding.
      *Any* form of government will interfere in economies. That's their reason for existence, is to interfere with economy on the behalf of the people who make the economy run and benefit from its productivity.

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  6. Lets be clear by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    None of the things Steven's was accused of receiving illegally were false. Just the amount of value in them.

    So a $250,000 felon, or a $80,000 felon..either way he still should be a felon by any reasonable definition.

    I'll say that the decision to not retry him is reasonable given his age. His record is, ahem, clean, but his tattered reputation is frankly, well deserved.

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    1. Re:Lets be clear by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Agreed, he might have gotten an acquittal, but given his own statements saying "asking for this receipt is just to cover our asses" he might not ;-)

      in the end I think the result is good enough, he's ruined politically, out of power, and not really worth retrying.

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  7. Evidence against Stevens was overwhelming by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Apparently, prosecutors illegally withheld evidence from the defense that was contradictory to their case.

    Perhaps if Stevens was given a fair trial, the jury may have seen things differently.

    1. Re:Evidence against Stevens was overwhelming by hedwards · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, that's the thing, we can speculate, but he was ultimately robbed of his chance to prove his case in court. In cases like this the reputation is indelibly smudge with no real recourse.

      Admittedly though, as bad as that is, it beats the other system where prosecutors just try again and again until they get the verdict they want.

  8. Not surprising by mdf356 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My father-in-law faced one of the prosecutors in a tax case once. She pulled a lot of the same crap then, harassing witnesses, changing the story she was trying to prosecute, etc.

    This is almost certainly like O.J. Simpson, where a guilty man was framed.

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    1. Re:Not surprising by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is almost certainly like O.J. Simpson, where a guilty man was framed.

      That's not my recollection at all. My recollection was the police work was sloppy. A detective apparently lied about using a racial epithet. What I do remember is the defense insinuated that the police was out to frame O.J. when it was more likely the case was that the police and the prosecution made major mistakes. The defendant had a high dollar legal team that was able to use these mistakes.

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  9. Unfortunately, I agree with the decision by religious+freak · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After hearing and reading a bit about the actions of the prosecution, I unfortunately agree with this decision. The actions they took were so egregious that they should not be allowed to proceed.

    Now... whether the charges on Stevens should've been permanently thrown out forever, I don't know - that seems a bit much. But you can't consistently withhold evidence from the defense and expect your case to be supported by an impartial judge.

    Stevens is almost certainly guilty, from everything I've seen and read, but that doesn't mean he's not entitled to a fair trial.

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    1. Re:Unfortunately, I agree with the decision by deraj123 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or, it's a direct message to the citizenry that misconduct by government agents will not be tolerated. If the prosecution is simply allowed to "try again", there is no incentive to behave appropriately in the future. Place the full blame for the lack of justice on the heads of the prosecutors and the justice department. They are the ones who did us wrong.

  10. Proof of justice department correcting itself by downix · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Justice Department had a pretty solid case at the beginning, and the Prosecutors bungled it either due to negligence or incompetence. So, the head of the dept changes, reviews, and cans one of the best cases as an example to others in his department that the "no holds barred" approach was no longer acceptable, and that all cases would be held accountable. I tip my hat to the new AG, godspeed in cleaning house, you have a mess on your hands.

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  11. Jury opinion irrelevant, resistance is futile by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Several jurors have told The Washington Post that the evidence against Stevens was overwhelming during a month-long trial that ended in October.

    Doesn't matter, and surprised /. would post such a trolling and/or clueless aside. The judge ruled the prosecution mishandled evidence and witnesses. The finders of fact, the jurors, were therefore incapable of reaching a just verdict. Their opinions don't matter, because what they heard and saw has been ruled as hopelessly corrupted by prosecutorial misconduct.

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    1. Re:Jury opinion irrelevant, resistance is futile by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 2, Informative
      The case was dismissed with prejudice, so there's no prospect of him being retried on this in the federal courts.

      He could be tried by the State of Alaska on the charges (or any other State), but only such charges that do not trigger federal subject matter jurisdiction. I haven't paid close attention to the case, but I thought the charges were related to alleged federal, not state, violations and/or criminal acts, meaning no prospect of state prosecution.

      Legally, he's not a convicted felon.

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    2. Re:Jury opinion irrelevant, resistance is futile by MSTCrow5429 · · Score: 2, Informative

      To clarify my previous post, he could be tried by another State if he is charged with wrongdoing that would bring him under the jurisdiction of that State. Greatly simplifying, he would have to be charged with a civil violation or criminal act of Alaskan law, while under Alaskan jurisdiction.

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  12. Common Law by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yeah, considering that our legal system is a Common Law system, and that it inherited from British Common Law with all it's many-centuries history, it's ridiculous to think that legal practice was ever simple enough to be contained in only a hundred books, much less one.

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    1. Re:Common Law by hedwards · · Score: 2, Informative

      That's not technically correct, while most of the US is indeed common law, with the exception of LA which uses Napoleonic code to this day.

  13. Sense of proportion by buck-yar · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is trolling: Where's the sense of proportion? This was a mutual dealing between two people. It just so happens the guy receiving the favors has a vote in congress. Maybe there's something here, but its like fixing a scratch on the wall in a mobile home.

    Compare this against what's happening with taxpayer dollars; Trillions of dollars going from my and your pockets directly into shady Banks, who will lose our money just like they lost their own.

    1. Re:Sense of proportion by Verdatum · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's up there with the argument of "why are you pulling me over for speeding? shouldn't you be out catching murderers and rapists?" We fight any battles that can be fought. no one makes the claim, "oh we would've noticed it was bad to give money to lousy banks, but we were too busy re-evaluating Ted Stevens' trial."

  14. This wasn't an April Fool's Day gag? by funky49 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I first heard about the case being dismissed on NPR on April 1st. I was assuming it was an April Fool's Day gag that all the news outlets were picking up.

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  15. Remember the Hulk tie and the series of toobz! by SlappyBastard · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Ted Stevens is awesome. Only in Alaska can a man this corrupt live to 85 and never go to jail. Alaska is the anarcho-capitalist Promised Land.

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  16. Democratic or Republican prosecutors? by Glass+Goldfish · · Score: 2, Funny

    Were the prosecutors Republicans or Democrats? It's one thing to have an impartial prosecution of a politican before an election, but a crooked deeply partisan is unacceptable. He does sound guilty though, but who knows what the prosecutors lied about.

  17. Shennanigans by Jaysyn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I honestly can't believe that as much media attention as that whole rigamarole got that said prosecutors would be able to get away with this kind of mishandling of a federal case.

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    1. Re:Shennanigans by KiahZero · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It turns out, when you staff the Justice Department based on political ideology rather than capability as lawyers, you get crappy lawyers who have the right political ideology.

      See, for example, Monica Goodling.

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  18. Well, the thing with home renovations is... by Korey+Kaczor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, the thing with home renovations is that it's not something you just dump something on. It's not a big truck.

    Especially with plumbing for your home: that's a series of tubes. So, Mr. Stevens was simply suggesting a way for you to not just dump something on.

  19. Misconduct by *Republican* Prosecutors by billstewart · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As the Liberal Media have been pointing out, the prosecutors here were the corrupt and politically biased Bush Administration Justice Department, which was led by the corrupt Alberto Gonzalez, who Stevens had voted to confirm a few years before. So if there was intentional misconduct, well, nyahh nyahh.

    Of course, if there was prosecutorial misconduct, and they have to drop those charges, chances are good that they've blown their Double Jeopardy roll and can't try him again and can't throw the old man in jail.

    But that doesn't mean Stevens wasn't corrupt enough to deserve not to get re-elected, even though the Republicans are now trying to pretend that since they're the minority party, they should get a do-over on the election.

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    1. Re:Misconduct by *Republican* Prosecutors by Improv · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Republicans, like Democrats (and virtually every other political movement), are not a hive-mind. There are all sorts of voices in the party, from individuals to political factions. It is entirely possible that he was attacked by other Republicans for political or personal reasons, because some factions needed a scapegoat, or alternatively that this was literally just a normal trial with no political railroading.

      I don't believe Double Jeopardy applies in these situations (but IANAL).

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  20. Re:Don't forget... by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 2, Informative

    "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity." - Anon

    You _would_ like to take credit for such an oft used quote, wouldn't you Mr. AC. Robert Hanlon objects:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon's_Razor

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  21. Re:Who got fired? by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2, Informative

    Fired is the least of their worries. If the behavior was as egregious and deliberate as the judge made it out to be, charges will be involved. Criminal charges including least of all subornation of perjury. If convicted of that simple charge, the minimum that would happen to the lawyers is that they never practice law again.

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  22. Re:not necessarily retired by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

    Blame Al Gore for inventing the darn thing in the first place.

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  23. Stevens is small potatos by greg_barton · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Overturning the Stevens conviction is a cover, but not for what you might think. THe big problem facing the Obama administration is that the Justice Department is radically broken. For the past eight years hiring of career Justice Department employees has been a partisan affair, with conservative political beliefs being the litmus test. Partly because of this a culture of corruption has spread.

    So, how does the Stevens reversal play into this?

    1) Reverse Stevens convictions, getting approval from Republicans, so when you

    2) start overturning other political witch hunts you have cover, and then

    3) use the overturned cases as a way to go after corrupt Justice Department officials, giving you concrete reasons to fire them.

    So, this is just the beginning. Wait and watch.

  24. New Trial by Uberbah · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Instead of dropping the charges, the DOJ should have asked for a new trial - which is exactly what Steven's attorneys were asking for.

    No, the bullshit is that Don Siegleman is still a convict while Steven's walks. The prosecutorial misconduct was far, far, FAR, FAR worse in the case of the former governor than it was for the former senator. Just to start with, the prosecutor who went after Siegleman is married to the campaign manager of Siegleman's opponent.

  25. All is fair in love and war by hwyhobo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And at the same time flagrant tax cheats and criminals are nominated to cabinet positions with scantly a snicker from the media. We are at war in this country, and neither side displays even the slightest shred of integrity or ethics.

    Quo vadis, USA?

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  26. More than one problem with this case... by rickb928 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There is also the small matter of the prosecution sending one of their witnesses home to Washington State because he was ill.

    This witness was also on the defense list. The prosecutors sent him home without notifying the defense, which is such an obvious abuse that the judge nearly stopped the trial right then and there.

    But no matter. The prosecution got what they wanted - Stevens is no longer a Senator. That can't be rectified.

    Remember, the rules apply to all of us. When they come to accuse you of something, will you be so trusting of the prosecutors?

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  27. Re:No, Lets be REALLY clear by pixelpusher220 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Stevens in his OWN VOICE recorded talking with Allen:
    STEVENS: That's, that's the way it should be. But as a practical matter, the question is, what can they convince the jury, uh grand jury, to charge us with? That's the problem. But when I was a district attorney, I handled grand juries, lots of them. They're funny people, but they also are people from within the community. And your reputation and everything else comes into play, as far as grand juries are concerned ... We ought to just cool it. I told Ben the same thing: just cool it, you know, go about our business and smile and have a happy face ... Do the things you used to do and just keep going. If it's a violation of the elections law, that's a corporate violation. This thing, it shouldn't, it shouldn't get to your mind, old buddy."
    ALLEN: Well it has been, I'll tell you."
    STEVENS:...You've got to get a mental attitude that these guys can't really hurt us. You know, they're not going shoot us. It's not Iraq. What the hell? The worst that can be done, the worst that can happen to us is we round up a bunch of legal fees and might lose and we might have to pay a fine, might have to serve a little time in jail. I hope to Christ it never gets to that ...

    Oh yeah it sounds like an innocent man there, not one playing the odds that his massive Alaska support base will get him off of whatever he does. He *knew* it was illegal and did it anyway.

    He also readily admitted he didn't pay for many of the things he received; the grill, the furniture, the permanent generator, the massage chair. Yet he didn't disclose those things as he was *legally obligated* to do.

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  28. LOL. by tjstork · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No wonder Stevens got off the hook. When it comes to people in power, there is plenty of reason to believe that the law is more overly applied by
    political opponents than it is applied at all.

    Same thing with Obama's economic team.

    Did the Sec-Treasury cheat on his taxes? Yeah, but, making a big circus out of it was overkill from a political opposition. I would only really be bitter about Obama's people getting all nazi-fied over taxes if they started nailing everyone else to the wall.

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  29. Mod parent -1: Wrong by whiledo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Sorry, but you're wrong.

    However, it is incorrect to equate the Louisiana Civil Code with the Napoleonic Code. Although the Napoleonic Code strongly influenced Louisiana law, it was never in force in Louisiana, as it was enacted in 1804, after the Louisiana Purchase of 1803. While the Louisiana Civil Code of 1808 has been continuously revised and updated since its enactment, it is still considered the controlling authority in the state.

    While it would have been true to say Louisiana's legal system is influenced by the Napoleonic code and is very different from the common law systems in all the other states, it's not the same thing as saying it uses Napoleonic code.

    Hope you don't take offense for having this pointed out.

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  30. Re:Blaming Clinton for 9/11 by fluxrad · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is plenty in 9/11 to blame Clinton for... Most in fact...

    Actually, I think you can blame most of 9/11 on Osama Bin Laden and the hijackers.

    Honestly, your post is flamebait. This kind of prepared terrorist attack is nearly impossible to prevent, particularly in a reasonably free nation. I blame neither Clinton nor Bush for 9/11. Also, with regard to this:

    Clinton was a lawyer and rejected the offer [wikipedia.org], because there was no grand jury indictment against Osama (yet)

    The source for your link is an LA Times opinion piece. Please don't do that here.

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