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Digital Schwarzenegger Set For New 'Terminator'
Hugh Pickens writes "The Governator revealed this week that he may appear in the upcoming 'Terminator Salvation,' but when he said he didn't want to act, he left many fans scratching their heads. Turns out Schwarzenegger has been secretly working with helmer McG and the effects team to reprise his signature role ... without lifting a finger. 'I made it very clear that I don't have the time to do the movie,' says Schwarzenegger. 'I said that I would be willing to be in the movie if they get the technology together, and so they are working on that right now.' A body-cast mold of Schwarzenegger, created when he first appeared as the muscle-ripped cyborg, provided the basis for a digital-effects version of his famous character so the figure can appear in 'Terminator Salvation' as a living, breathing actor. Warner first screens the movie in early May, and opens it May 21. 'I think it's cool to continue on with the franchise ... in case I want to jump over again and get into the acting after I'm through here,' adds Schwarzenegger."
Soon we no longer need actors and we just need digitized versions of them.
So we may see new movies with Bogart, Wayne, Hepburn, Garbo and many others.
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
He did not act in the first one either!
They tapped Henry Kissinger to do terminators voice.
It's better than not having him at all I suppose. A Terminator movie just wouldn't be the same without him...or at least something that looks like him. Are they going to be using his real voice at least?...Not that there was a ton of dialogue for the terminator role.
Am I the only one that remembers the bad guys digitally changing the face of a guy who dies in the Running Man to be that of Arnold?
I find it interesting that we are now getting to the point where the future in sci fi films is becoming the reality. . .
Remember that the first terminators were made of rubber and could easily be identified as robots from close range. Arnie should totally reprise the role: old, wrinkly and saggy parts would make for an awesome first generation terminator.
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...to get a digital Shatner in the new STAR TREK film?
stop the CGI! I would prefer a puppet to a CGI model.
Before we know it there will be movies completely in...oh wait. My original point still remains valid.
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Anyone remember a movie called Looker? was about actors not being needed any more and once they were digitally reproduced being killed. I wonder if that was what happened to arnie?
I like the Gubernator better.
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Why was a body-cast taken in the first place? Did the producers send someone back in time to get the mold so it would be available for 'Salvation'?
Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
This probably makes the Actor's Guild shit themselves. Technically, they may have an intellectual property clause wide enough to drive a Freightliner full of liquid nitrogen through. They could digitize him, and as long as he didn't have a speaking part, they could even have an action sequence with him fighting Bale/Connor and all of that, and say "hey, it's all covered under the same contract that lets us use your likeness for Terminator toys, etc. We don't owe you anything."
That, of course, would probably put a halt to actors willing to be greenscreened and bodysuited, and do voiceover for tie-in games like Jackman and Wolverine.
Why is Arnold calling he does acting?
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
Right after they figure out how to create my digital clone....
You know, when your main actors are getting so old they have to be digitally reproduced - that might just maybe possibly be a sign that you should let it drop already.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
... so the figure can appear in "Terminator Salvation" as a living, breathing actor.
To recap, we will have a CGI farm pretending to be an actor pretending to be a robot pretending to be a man.
Imagine if we could get a Beowulf cluster of these things.
"We reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals." --The American President (20.1.2009)
They'll give the digital Arnold a flight sim.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, quit raping my childhood!
Kirk is now a fat old has been doing priceline commercials and a spoiled emo brat. (Talk about talent!)
Darth Vader is a pussy whinny mama's boy.
Indiana Jones is an old wannabe who is married and has a kid.
Superman has a kid.
James Bond gets played and used by a women and Q is dead.
And the terminator is now a cgi sprit.
Dear lord what is the world coming to?
I understand the need to create sequels but this need to add to a series who's last installment was greater then 10 years ago needs to stop. Come up with some new ideas or at least rename them more then just slapping a increment onto the title.
Until we don't even need the flesh to model after, and have 100% digital entities as actors?
Ya, i know there was a movie about that, but how long until its actually going to happen? I think we could just about do it now, technically.
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Why is this tagged "diealready"?
Insensitive assholes!
...but I think the world would probably be a better place without that particular movie. Don't you?
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Weaselmancer
rediculous.
"A body-cast mold of Schwarzenegger, created when he first appeared as the muscle-ripped cyborg, provided the basis for a digital-effects version of his famous character"
I mean, where do you think Skynet got the data for an appropriate human body? It just used the data that was already conveniently available from the combined MPAA/military database of the future. That's why all the terminators "coincidentally" look like actors.
Soon we will no longer need human governors.
No more need for blackmail or extortion or bribery to make sure the puppet politicians stay in line.
Need I say more?
Does the body cast also "admire Hitler"? Otherwise, I would have to say its authenticity is in question...
Lucy Liu Bots anyone?
All that technology and they do Arnold? Why aren't they putting digital Jessica Biel in more movies?
This is just one step closer to ractors and mouse armies.
I suspect this is less about Arnold not being able to find the time than about the changes in his appearance. He's 25 years older, he's had heart-valve-replacement surgery, and although he's still physically active, he doesn't have the muscle-bound physique of his Pumping Iron days. A CGI Arnold will be a lot more convincing than the real thing!
A standard problem when you have people playing "android" robots. Actors age. (So do machines, but not the same way.) I think the main reason they killed off Data in the last Star Trek movie was the difficulty explaining away Brent Spinner's signs of age. So they set up a new character who's supposedly a sort of continuation of Data, all ready to to play the role in the next sequel — which, I dearly hope, never gets made.
BTW, every time our Governor is on the news, I keep expecting him to turn to the camera and say, "Ai ahm ah macheen!"
if a real life skynet evolved out of the computing power needed to make the next terminator movie realistic ;-)
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There will be nothing left
They could cut and splice existing Terminator dialog like they did in South Park for Chef after Isaac Hayes went goofy with scientology. Or mabye have Seth MacFarlane do the voice ala Stewie. That would be cool.
The Governator revealed this week that he may appear in the upcoming 'Terminator Salvation,' but when he said he didn't want to act, he left many fans scratching their heads.
I don't see why, that's perfectly lucid if you ask me.
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
Jesus people are so pretentious with this 'Typo in summary' tag! get a life.
When has he ever really acted?
What would happen then? Maybe he has an estate who could fight it. Weird legal ground I bet.
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Actors age. (So do machines, but not the same way.) I think the main reason they killed off Data in the last Star Trek movie was the difficulty explaining away Brent Spinner's signs of age. So they set up a new character who's supposedly a sort of continuation of Data, all ready to to play the role in the next sequel
That sort of makes sense, but I'm thinking they replaced Data because, like his replacement, the earlier robotic/child-like Data is much more interesting than grown up Data (or any android) who has emotions and acts pretty much human.
Schwarzenegger does not make Terminator, Terminator.
Linda Hamilton does.
That's all cute and all, but until I see it I'm not convinced that digitized versions can replace the real thing. As far as I am concerned we are at the worst part of the 'uncanny valley' right now. Sure it will get better but that could be a while out.
Also, I think it will eventually work great on those actors who *cough* can't act. A digital Bogart doesn't make a great movie.
So in 10 years when we have the hardware to do this kinda thing on the average home PC... how scary is THAT going to be?
Poser pr0n is already bad enough now, can you imagine when it's a) Photorealistic and b) Based on real people?
I can see the scandals now.
"IL&M Apologizes for accidental leak of 3d Model Data"
"Jamie Lynn Spears / JFK sex tape confirmed fake"
"George Washington Punk Rock Show a surprise hit on new Youtube 5.0"
"'Jesus' starring in new Talk show on UPN, Neo-Christian groups object."
Schwarzenegger has run California as its governor the same way: his image plastered on a scripted, empty performance that a Hollywood computer could do better.
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Don't pin your hopes on this one being worthwhile. It's directed by McG, who is best known as the visionless tool who does producers' bidding to churn out crap like Charlies Angels. Other than music videos, Charlies Angles has been his biggest gig. This isn't the kind of movie where a creative genius presents a bunch of images and concepts that expands our imaginations. This movie is the product of a bunch of meetings among studio executives who asked each other, "What would the audience like to see?" Their answers to that question is derived from other films. From the trailers, it looks like a lot of what will be in this movie is Transformers imitation.
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They will have to build a server farm code named "Sky Net" in order to reproduce Arnie!
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Another step to obsoleting actors.
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they can now digitize any actor or actress and put them in a movie via CGI effects. Even dead ones, as long as they don't have a clause in their contracts that says they cannot.
Did you know that they almost went with OJ Simpson as The Termination instead of Arnold Schwarzenegger? Imagine if OJ got that role? They'd have to use his image because he is in jail for a long time now and couldn't be allowed to get out of jail to film the movie.
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Give Hollywood the fleshy Ahnuld and install the digital reproduction as Gov. ?
I've got another one from your childhood... your mama's old and fat now! Ha! SNAP! She got raped.
I like the Gubernator better.
Ditto.
It's the logical construction from "gubernatorial" & "terminator".
Rolls off the tongue with the same number of syllables, the same stresses, and last two syllables identical to those of "terminator".
Bantam Dominique roosters crow a four-note song. Once you've heard it as "Happy BIRTHday" you can't NOT hear it that way
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was the best of the series...
Convincing voice morphing technology was demonstrated as early as 1999:
When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing
Presumably, it's only improved in the last 10 years.
"Mind, as manifested by the capacity to make choices, is to some extent present in every electron." -Freeman Dyson
It's that a puppet version of Yoda for $5,000 is far, far superior to a pixel version of yoda for 5 million dollars.
The Governator is a CGI character.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
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After the second season, a storyline was planned where Livia would be called to testify against her son in court, giving evidence on stolen airline tickets she had received from him, but [the actress who played her] died in 2000, before it could be filmed. Existing footage and computer-generated imagery was used to create a final scene between Tony and Livia in the episode "Proshai, Livushka" in Season Three before the character too passed on.
Arnold should have acted in this movie and taken as much money as he could and just donated it to his state's budget.
Now I get to see Ahnald yell to Jon Connor, "Get to da choppah, Jon connah!"
Actually, he should just act in person and use CGI for his governatorship duties. It would be better for California as well as himself...
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Oh man who's doing his voice in the movie?
We can get Star Wars Episodes I-III remade into *good movies* with synthetic actors. And finish Episodes VII-IX. If we get Pixar involved, the CG actors will definitely be able to show emotion.
Not only did the SFX in that scene look bizarre, the recycled dialog made the conversation largely nonsensical. It was a sad send off to the character.
Amen to that!
I hate CGI Yoda almost as much as I loved the original puppet version.
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I don't agree. For me the performance of Yoda in AotC (especially the Dooku scene) was the highlight of the film and far superior to that of Hayden Christensen.
Never mind them, I want the software on my computer and then make my own movie with Morena Baccarin and Yvonne Strahovski!
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
What can they do in a month? If the article talks about they might try to see if they can squeeze something it.
Unless they did this a year ago it can only look crap.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
He was perfectly fine. What they thought us that Lucas can't write and direct.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Probably because Insightful is the new Funny.
I believe the were planning on using Lance Henriksen as the terminator. The original concept was to have a plain ordinary looking person turn out to be a robotic killing machine.
I only look human.
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