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Circuit City Returns Under Systemax

animeking503 was one of several readers to send word that after closing its doors earlier this year, CircuitCity.com is alive and kicking once again. Systemax Inc., the company that owns TigerDirect and CompUSA, purchased the Circuit City e-commerce brand name last month, and has now re-launched the website with promises of lower prices and better service. The Consumerist points out that the new site's return policies leave something to be desired.

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  1. really by asdfndsagse · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why shops at retail stores for electronics anymore?

    1. Re:really by LoverOfJoy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Shipping costs, shipping time and return policies. Not to mention the value in being able to see the quality and try out the product before you buy it.

      Don't get me wrong. I buy most of my electronics online. I can usually find much better deals there than in brick and mortar stores. That said, there are some times when I am very glad to have a physical store to go to.

    2. Re:really by pimpimpim · · Score: 1

      Actually all those reasons are the reason that I buy at amazon and others. I once had a logitech headset that broke because of flimsy build quality. Within the year I went back to the store, but they wouldn't accept it. The only time I will buy something at a brick & mortar store will be if I need it on exactly that day and precise specifications don't count so much, for example empty cds.

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    3. Re:really by Kjella · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Shipping costs: Well maybe but last I checked because I forgot to include a 15m Ethernet cable the online price covered it + shipping for less.
      Shipping time: Yes, definately when you need it today but that's rare. I've done it for odd stuff like the missing cable and so on but...
      Retrun policies: Around here, no better (Norway). And I very rarely buy stuff I want to refund, YMMV.
      Seeing and trying: Yes, for some products Reviews, benchmarks, press quality preview pictures go a long way though and there's always window shopping.

      Ok, so the last one is pretty much a cheap shot against the store, but it depends in what order I'm doing it. If I've reviewed the prices up front but I'm uncertain and I go to the store and it's not excessively much more, they'll get a sale. But if it's the other way around that I get interested in the store, I always go home and check online once before making any large purchase. Why? Because brick and mortar stores sometimes have prices that are complete rip-offs. If you look at the top 10 online stores the prices are usually within a few percent because it's so easy to compare. Retail stores sometimes have 50-100% markup on some items, and there's no way I'm paying 200$ for a 100$ online item. In fact, I think they'd get more sales if I got myself a decent browsing phone so I could check out prices while in store.

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    4. Re:really by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the value in being able to see the quality and try out the product before you buy it.

      With all of the consumer review and testing websites, such as CNet and TomsHardware (for PCs), available these days is that even necessary anymore? The types of equipment and testing that these companies do is well beyond the sort of rigor and precision sought by most consumers (who aren't going to spend days tweaking configurations to find out that one video card has only 2 fps more than another one costing $100 less). There is only so much personal time to be put into researching a purchase and unless it is a really big ticket item, like a house or a car, most people don't spend weeks and months figuring out what they want to buy.

    5. Re:really by AhtirTano · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Depends on what you are buying. Sometimes the design of a product feels more comfortable to you than anther. And preferences like this can vary from person to person. For example, I hate the button layout and display on Nikon DSLRs. I have a good friend who loves them. No review in the world can possibly sort this out-you have to hold the object in your hand to come to a decision.

    6. Re:really by tomz16 · · Score: 1

      I think all brother inkjets do this now. I agree that it's a HUGE waste of ink if you don't print color regularly. On the flip side, I've never had a clogged head with this printer. hmmm....

    7. Re:really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Office Depot appreciates your patronage.

    8. Re:really by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "Shipping costs, shipping time and return policies. Not to mention the value in being able to see the quality and try out the product before you buy it."

      Shipping is cheaper for me than gas and time to visit the store, and I evaluate quality by visiting appropriate forums. I let the early adopters take the risks then I buy accordingly because I cannot duplicate user experience by a short tryout in a store.

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    9. Re:really by mspohr · · Score: 1

      Why shops at retail stores...?

      I don't think 'why' shops at retail stores anymore which is 'why' they are re-launching the WEBSITE.

      I know you are not supposed to read the story but you could at least read the summary...

      They are going to re-launch the WEBSITE. The WEBSITE is not a retail store, it is a WEBSITE.

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    10. Re:really by winwar · · Score: 1

      "Shipping is cheaper for me than gas and time to visit the store, and I evaluate quality by visiting appropriate forums."

      Really? Ever price the shipping for a large TV, especially if you have to return it or get warranty work?

      The best electronics/ products can still be damaged or fail. While many products are well packaged, I still wouldn't trust most delivery services.

      Now for smaller/cheaper items....

    11. Re:really by pecosdave · · Score: 2, Informative

      You forgot "heavy stuff" and "breakable stuff".

      If it's heavy, it's expensive to ship. Monitors (especially back in the CRT days), automotive parts (I know, off topic), and anything the exact right model are important on is best left to an in person deal if possible.

      (when you're a Linux user and you buy by the chip - the exact right model revisions is important sometimes)

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    12. Re:really by mysidia · · Score: 1

      You can't necessarily "see" the quality of a product before you buy it. You can see the aesthetic attributes of it (the outer shell), not the types of components inside it.

      You can see if it looks flimsy. But if it doesn't look flimsy, it could still be of very poor quality.

      It's nice to have online reviews from other users of the product and detailed specs you can't get in a store to make a real determination about quality.

    13. Re:really by mysidia · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is similar to the reason newer printers have chips on the cartridge, and the printer rejects cartridges that can't be digitally identified as being the same manufacturer,

      And why in many cases cartridges have "timebombs", i.e. after X pages, the printer will declare the cartridge empty and refuse to use (even if there's still lots of ink in it)

      More revenue for the printer manufacturer who got you the printer for cheap so they could sell lots of ridiculously overpriced ink.

    14. Re:really by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      On a semi-related note I think it sucks that Brother sells a printer with a separate black cartridge that will STILL use up the color even if all you print in is greyscale. It also does a massive "cleaning cycle" every couple of weeks just in case you aren't using enough ink.

      If you print that little color, you should get yourself a laser printer instead. That's what I did -- I got myself a B&W Brother HL-2070N, and don't really miss color at all (most of my printing is either text or throw-away stuff like Google Maps directions anyway). And even color lasers are pretty cheap now.

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    15. Re:really by antdude · · Score: 1

      How do people try, touch, see, smell, etc. items in person before buying them? Or nee to have them right away!

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    16. Re:really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am well aware of the razor blade economics model. However, in this case the self-cleaning does seem to have a tangible benefit (apart from emptying your wallet). Every other inkjet I've used has developed clogged heads after a short while, especially if you didn't print very often. The two brother inkjets I have had in recent years don't suffer from this problem, presumably because of their obsessive self-clean cycles.

      It certainly wastes ink, and that thought does bother me every time I hear it start cleaning. On the other hand, the print quality is always top notch on the first shot, so I'm not convinced that this cleaning thing is just a blatant money grab on the part of brother.

      I just get the $2/each knockoff cartridges online, and try not to lose any sleep over wasted ink.

      P.S. As an aside, their (brother's) linux driver support is excellent. I have two multifunction inkjets, a monochrome laser, and color laser from them. They have a linux driver section where you can just grab the PPD!

    17. Re:really by pod · · Score: 1

      Online reviews are nice, but they often fall short, and so much of what we see as product quality is subjective (ie, aesthetic). For a simple example, I would never buy a mouse that I could not try beforehand. The size, shape and weight must feel "right" and be comfortable TO ME, there must be the "right" amount of buttons in the "right" locations and requiring the "right" amount of pressure, the scroll wheel must not be mooshy and must have clearly defined stops and must feel "right". No review will tell me this.

      Anything you interact with is subjective, and different people have different preferences, place different emphasis on certain aspects, and are often willing to overlook what to you may be glaring and fatal flaws.

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    18. Re:really by centuren · · Score: 1

      Actually all those reasons are the reason that I buy at amazon and others. I once had a logitech headset that broke because of flimsy build quality. Within the year I went back to the store, but they wouldn't accept it. The only time I will buy something at a brick & mortar store will be if I need it on exactly that day and precise specifications don't count so much, for example empty cds.

      In defence of Circuit City, they provided the best return policy and customer service of all the brick & mortar stores I've experienced.

    19. Re:really by innocent_white_lamb · · Score: 1

      I have one of each. A Samsung ML-1210 black-and-white laser that I've had for several years, and a HP 2550L colour laser that's maybe 3 years old or so. I actually do most of my printing on the Samsung, but the colour laser is ready to go for the relatively few occasions that I need to print something in colour.

      I think that having two printers like this is probably the most economical solution over the longer term.

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    20. Re:really by kill+-9+$$ · · Score: 1

      But see. These are reasons why you should try throw a few extra bucks at the brick and mortar store from time to time. It costs money to provide that service of being able to checkout the thing before you buy, etc.

      Just something to keep conscious of. If it costs you a few bucks more, help em out.

      At the same time, admittedly there have been times I've checked it out in the store and they can't match so I buy online. There was a lcd tv I was going to buy a while back that neither Best Buy or Circuit City brick-and-mortar were even willing to try to match to Amazon's deal (CC and Bestbuy wanted ~$2k, amazon wanted ~$1500), plus amazon was throwing in a blu-ray player.

      I gave them both opportunities to match but they didn't want "to consider amazon their competition". Circuit City didn't let me down either, every time I shopped there the clerks usually drove me batty and caused me to shop elsewhere. Well sorry guys, I bought it online, and amazon did a pretty fantastic job. Had they come close (within $100-200 or so), I would have probably bought it at one of the two. Especially since I didn't know about the BD player deal till around checkout time.

      So anyway, consider chucking a few bucks to your local retailer from time to time if its in the ballpark, otherwise, they may not be there down the road. Price isn't always everything.

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    21. Re:really by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Uuuhhhh....If you read TFS it says the bought the E-Commerce rights, which means they are simply opening a Circuit City website, that is all. So there will be NO stores, just a website that says Circuit City. Which says to me why bother? CC has a seriously bad rep, you can get the same stuff from Tigerdirect and Newegg, so what is the point? None that I can see.

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    22. Re:really by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

      I do, and here are two reasons why;

      My entire computer died, the power supply, the motherboard and the CPU - and I needed a replacement right away. Not only was I grateful that I had a Mircocenter store close by, but while checking prices against Newegg, et. al., on my iPhone I found they were the cheapest for the CPU and Mobo combo I wanted. So online isn't always the cheapest. And no one was going to ship the product in a few hours.

      A few weeks later I saw a video card on Microcenter that I thought had hit a price point I was willing to deal with, but instead stopped at Best Buy on the way. Low and behold they had a better card for a cheaper price. To this day I can't find this model cheaper online (except on eBay... good luck with that) and their website still says that it's $30 more than I picked it up for. It was just an unadvertised clearance.

      In both of these situations I got instant gratification and saved a few bucks. On top of that the Microcenter folks were *super* nice. Sure, they were happy that I was making a purchase, but the man who checked me out at the register was one of the nicer people I've met all year. I would never rely on a salesperson' expertise, but it always nice to have someone to ask questions to. Maybe if you are a total douchebag you don't appreciate quality customer service, but I find that talking to members of the human race can be A-OK sometimes. And at Microcenter I actually met someone who worked there that plays WoW on my very server and we've run a few raids together since... small world. And talking to fellow customers can be fun too.

      I'm sad my local Circuit City is gone (which was one stop light away). I always went there before Best Buy (who does suck as a retailer - Google it). But I do also pick up things from TigerDirect and Newegg. They both exist for a reason, because there are consumers of both and mixed camps - those who will never buy online, online only and normal people like me who make the decision based on need and price combined.

    23. Re:really by freddieb · · Score: 1

      I used to buy most all computer parts from Newegg. Now Microcenter has very competitive prices especially cpu prices and I can return a defective part with no hassle. This has changed my on-line shopping from regular to occasional. We also have Fry's in town however, they are good for mostly sale items.

    24. Re:really by afabbro · · Score: 1

      Not to mention the value in being able to see the quality and try out the product before you buy it.

      With all of the consumer review and testing websites, such as CNet and TomsHardware (for PCs), available these days is that even necessary anymore?

      If everyone adopts the "I read the reviews and buy over the net" model and there are no more brick & mortar stores, who will write the reviews?

      Not to mention that (a) plenty of review outlets have started honest and later devolved into "we whore ourselves for our advertisers", and (b) just because a camera feels good in your hand doesn't mean it'll feel good in mine - in fact, the only way to see if it'll feel good in mine is to actually put it in mine.

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    25. Re:really by MrJimbo · · Score: 1

      I do not purchase electronics, books, or music from retail stores at all. Very often, I will be inside a retail store, see something I would like, fire up the Blackberry and then purchase it online (usually through Amazon). I do this because of 1) Free Shipping, 2) no sales tax, and 3) 3-5% commission I receive from going through my Amazon affiliate link. Now if I can just get my wife to get out of that "need it now" mentality for her books and movies.

    26. Re:really by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

      who will write the reviews?

      The dedicated test labs which buy/acquire these things for the sole purpose of testing them to the point of failure?

      Not to mention that (a) plenty of review outlets have started honest and later devolved into "we whore ourselves for our advertisers"

      That is always a possibility. The real question is how much is your time worth vs the amount of the purchase? That will vary for each individual, but rarely is it possible to get perfect information for a real world purchase decision. Generally we find out as much as we can with the amount of effort we are willing to put into researching the purchase and then we make our decision. Depending upon the value of the item and the proclivities of the buyer this could be seconds, days, weeks, months, or even years (although again there are always diminishing returns for time spent and only so much that can reasonably be found out).

      just because a camera feels good in your hand doesn't mean it'll feel good in mine - in fact, the only way to see if it'll feel good in mine is to actually put it in mine.

      A camera may be one of those exceptions. I don't know because I have never bought high-end cameras or photography gear. I can tell you that I generally don't buy clothes or shoes online, but even then I have made exceptions for brands and sizes that I have worn before and know will fit.

    27. Re:really by cdhgee · · Score: 1

      As was pointed out in the article, this isn't Circuit City. This is a completely separate company which has bought the brand name. For all intents and purposes, this is a completely different company with a Circuit City sticker slapped on top.

    28. Re:really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't have accepted it back either. You broke your headset, take responsibility for it and buy a new one. Don't come back complaining to me about it.

  2. What is wrong here? by eyepeepackets · · Score: 0

    I have a bad feeling about this: Smells like Same-pig-different-lipstick effect -- and it smells bad.

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    1. Re:What is wrong here? by akboss · · Score: 1

      Actually TigerDirect has TigerDirect, TigerDirect for business, Infotel,CompUSA,CompUSA for business,and now circuit city. Each one sends the exact same ads, lists the same stuff but Infotel assigns you a agent that works with you. All Tiger has done is to buy up old names that people knew and then use those names to sell the same products under.

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    2. Re:What is wrong here? by JWyner · · Score: 1

      This is the key point -- it is fairly standard for a company to own a variety of brands in order to make the customer feel more comfortable, or offer a slightly different version of their core service.

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    3. Re:What is wrong here? by Polloxer · · Score: 1

      Yep, it looks pretty similar to Tiger Direct. It's got that annoyingly long list of every single category/subcategory on the left. (A normal site uses the main category titles, which you can hover over to view subcategories, which circuitcity.com even has, but for some reason duplicates the feature in a worse way). And it lists every single price as "Only $x", even if they're not on sale. Are they trying to trick me with that? It's part of what gives me a bad feeling about tigerdirect/circuitcity.com.

    4. Re:What is wrong here? by SEWilco · · Score: 2, Funny

      I have a bad feeling about this: Smells like Same-pig-different-lipstick effect -- and it smells bad.

      Oh? Which part of "System ax" gives you unease?

    5. Re:What is wrong here? by Misch · · Score: 1

      Like what used to be Media Play/Sam Goody/Suncoat Picture Company...

      or even now as GameStop/Electronics Boutique

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  3. Wow, yet another site by TinBromide · · Score: 1

    Yet another website that I won't change my buying habits for. Newegg FTW!

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    1. Re:Wow, yet another site by TinBromide · · Score: 1

      To paraphrase stewie griffin: "Now Tigerdirect can be somewhere else when the nerds don't order."

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    2. Re:Wow, yet another site by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

      Yet another website that I won't change my buying habits for. Newegg FTW!

      Wow, retailer fanboyism...

      I have a buddy like this, his favorite is xoxide. If it isn't on there it's crap. You can link him the same case, fan, etc. at another site and he says, literally, it's junk.

      Newegg is great, don't get me wrong - but the point of shopping online, I thought, was not to develop these 'habits' of only buying from the one retailer over and over but to shop around to the millions that are out there and get the best deal (and sure, service, shipping speed factors into that - but as an occasional TD and NE buyer I've never seen much of a difference).

  4. HOORAYA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I like the city of circuits there are hot babes there who like to get wild and wacky, you can be sure of that wink wink yo.

    1. Re:HOORAYA by Q-Hack! · · Score: 1

      You are on the wrong forum... this is nerds, not playas

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    2. Re:HOORAYA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yo dawg dont be a hata, just because I am all awesome like and super awesome and indeed extremely awesome like and such, et cetera, it meas that you are a monkey ass eater but thats cool, yo.

    3. Re:HOORAYA by delysid-x · · Score: 0

      There's no reason you can't be both.

    4. Re:HOORAYA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yo, word brotha, yor face is all ugly and dumb an shit but thas cool, yo, dawg, jus sayin.

    5. Re:HOORAYA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Holla those circuit bitches are mighty fine, me and my G's love kicking it down in da old skool city, fo sheezy.

  5. Then again it's not really Circuit City by Jesterace · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just like the original article it does state that it's not Circuit City it's Systemax. I've personally never dealt with Circuit City as I'm in Canada. the only thing close I guess was "The Source by Curcuit City" which basically was Radio Shack prior to that. Not being able to return unused printer cartridges doesn't surprise me much considering even Walmart won't take them back either. The other major brands HP, Compaq that kind of surprises me because you couldn't just take that fancy laptop back to HP or Compaq and get a refund.

    1. Re:Then again it's not really Circuit City by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 1

      I've personally never dealt with Circuit City as I'm in Canada. the only thing close I guess was "The Source by Curcuit City" which basically was Radio Shack prior to that.

      Even money says they still want your full name, address and phone number just for buying an overpriced pack of D-cell batteries.

    2. Re:Then again it's not really Circuit City by conlaw · · Score: 1

      The other major brands HP, Compaq that kind of surprises me because you couldn't just take that fancy laptop back to HP or Compaq and get a refund.

      The Consumerist is just taking advantage of Systemax's poor wording of a policy that NewEgg also has. HP, for instance, might provide that all warranty issues with their products must sent by the original purchaser to the HP technical folks. In that case, it would waste time and money if you sent it to Systemax, they sent it back to you and you then sent it to HP. Plus, in all that shipping, the package might get broken or the warranty may have run out.

  6. Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by lsommerer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really? The Tiger Direct people are going to improve someone's customer service? I stopped buying from them nearly a decade ago. Are they any easier to work with now?

    1. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by Psyborgue · · Score: 1

      Depends. I've been ordering from them for a good while and haven't had a problem... Then again, I haven't had to return anything (I've heard there can be problems there). I think a lot of customer satisfaction has to do with luck. Sometimes, even at the best places, you get a bad egg or a service person having a bad day.

    2. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by joyfeather · · Score: 1

      I bought several items from them recently, and on one item ordered the wrong thing (my fault). They accepted the return and shipped the right part with no problems, no hassle.

    3. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by ion.simon.c · · Score: 5, Informative

      Sometimes, even at the best places, you get a bad egg...

      Speaking of eggs, newegg.com is the best online store that I've had the pleasure of doing business with. :)

    4. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by Psyborgue · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thanks for the recommendation. I might try them next time I shop online.

    5. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      replacements are rarely a problem as I understand it it's if there has to be any sort of refund or "store credit" that the problem comes in.

    6. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by iVasto · · Score: 1

      No, their customer service is still just as bad. Also, their website doesn't take orders all the time. I ordered a gift for christmas (Logitech Harmony remote) and it never got billed to my credit card. By the time I realized this, the price went up 20 dollars and their customer support wouldn't give me the old price. Newegg for life.

    7. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes! I've bought components to build 2 computers, one set through tigerdirect.com and one through newegg.com, and guess what? To keep it short:

      tigerdirect: nightmares and literal phone arguments with customer service, coffee spots on the p4 chip, packaging was minimal (big box with EVERYTHING tossed in, everything and no packing foam/protection), and dead-on-arrivals's.

      newegg: literally nothing to be said because everything worked how it should and it was pleasant. Clean website, easy ordering, and customer service is polite and easy to deal with.

      So, yes, buy NewEgg and skip the TigerDirect+CompUSA+CircuitCity "service" bullshit.

    8. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would suggest that you do shop with them. Typically their prices are competitive, if not better, than most other merchants. Even if it is more expensive (very rare), most of the time they provide 3 day UPS shipping and get orders shipped out FAST. Also their customer service is one of the best.

      If you consider all factors, they are easily the best retailer. One you know, you Newegg.

    9. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you are canadian try ncix

    10. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by Guido+von+Guido · · Score: 1

      There's also newegg.ca. It's a little odd since they charge you a "handling" fee that covers GST/PST.

      Now, I haven't lived in Canada all that long, so I haven't tried NCIX yet. I probably will in the near future, for comparison.

    11. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by mysidia · · Score: 1

      I expect they will improve over the old Circuitcity.com.

      Not because TigerDirect has improved, but because Circuit City's customer service was so much worse.

    12. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used to buy there until they told me that I cannot buy anymore because my credit card was not US based. That was after several things I bought without problems.
      So it worked for a time, but I was so pissed off with their new policy, that I decided not to buy there anymore even though I have now an US based cerdit card.

    13. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by Eugene · · Score: 2, Informative

      mwave.com is also pretty good for online shopping.

    14. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by ikkonoishi · · Score: 1

      I got burned by them a while back. Ordered a computer as my 15th birthday present, and received the monitor about 3 months later. Didn't get that computer until I was nearly 17. They just kept saying that it was backlogged and would not give a refund or allow me to switch the order to another system. At that point I decided never to purchase from them again.

    15. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      I've been ordering barebone kits for quite awhile(If you add the prices the kits are often cheaper than buying the parts separate) and have had to RMA a few cases because some UPS monkey has used it for a tire chuck(One actually had a boot print on the box) and haven't has a bit of trouble. I think the "trick" with Tigerdirect is you have to know your gear. But if you know your gear you can get a pretty good deal.

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    16. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

      Funny, I've received items from TigerDirect several times with two day shipping to trip over the item on my porch the next day. And a lot of people I know of, both online and in person, have experienced the same service. Never heard of a two year waiting period. Especially since there was no freaking way that PC was still available two years later... So I somewhat call bullshit on your story there. But of course things like this happen *sometimes*.

      And I guess the same can be said about my account, but; "anecdotes does not data make"

    17. Re:Tiget Direct == Better Customer Service? by Terrorwrist · · Score: 0

      Yes, Newegg is the best online electronic retailer store period. There products are very well priced and shipping is outstanding. In fact, my friend and I purchased a 8800gt video card and we got it the next day. Shipping was like less than $10. My mind blew me away when I got the item that quickly. There customer service is just outstanding. RMAs, and product replacement is very easy with them, and they give you no hassle at all. Website is wicked awesome. It is extremely easy to navigate and find what your looking for. Everything is categorized perfectly and stuff. I really shop there more than I do at Bestbuy. I really don't like Bestbuy. I think they should call it Badbuy instead. Circuitcity was way better than Badbuy. Overall, Newegg is the top best online store to shop at.

  7. Visited the site by revlayle · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I mean the prices are pretty good and the site is full of useful content and info about the products. However, it's not Newegg, millions of product reviews are already there, competitive prices already and pretty decent customer services. The new CircuitCity.com is ultimately "meh" to me. I mean if you HATE Newegg, this might be an OK alternative... i guess.... MEH

    1. Re:Visited the site by ScottCooperDotNet · · Score: 2, Informative
    2. Re:Visited the site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That just dug up memories of the horrid IBM MWave modem/soundcard...

    3. Re:Visited the site by PingPongBoy · · Score: 1

      A new business needs to bring a lot into the competition in order to get respect. And that's the way the world is, since many businesses have had a chance to mature. So new businesses take a lot of risk, and if you suspect Systemax to be just testing the waters, what they show may be just a shell with little willingness to back up their policies in the face of difficulties. However, customers should look for deals, and maybe there is a winner here. These days, we need to see risk takers make some gains, even against mature competitors.

      I look for honesty, price, reliability, knowledge, willingness, etc. That's what I look for in service. A lot of sellers come across as total assholes who wish they had better jobs. If anything can keep Systemax alive, it's attitude.

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    4. Re:Visited the site by PhrstBrn · · Score: 1

      Somebody told me about MWave 2 years ago when I built my last computer.

      I paid $1200 for my new rig (nice big monitor, new speaker system, the works) and it would have been $200 more if I bought the same exact parts from Newegg (everything was cheaper across the board).

      It was a bit slower than Newegg - I was used to ordering stuff UPS ground and getting it the next day/2 days from newegg (I think it took about a week for the stuff to finally arrive from MWave).

      I haven't made any large purchases since, so I've been using mostly Newegg (it's worth paying slightly more at Newegg when I get get my stuff in a day or two), but I'd probably check out MWave again if I had to make another large purchase.

      I haven't tried MWave's return policy, OTOH, I've used Neweggs return policy on many occasions and I haven't had many complaints.

      The only complaint: I once had to RMA 2 dead hard drives (I bought 9, 1 died within a day, the other one was damaged during shipping), and they refunded the drives instead of sending me new ones. I called, and they said they were "out of stock". I looked on the website, and the ordering page for that drive model said otherwise. I told this to the CSR, whom told me something to the effect "the website hasn't updated yet, but we don't have any in stock". I ignored her, ordered the 2 "out of stock" replacement drives after hanging up the phone. UPS delivered them to me the next morning.

  8. opt out by renegade600 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Were you a customer of circuit city? Did you give your email address at the store? or Did you have an online account with them? If you do not want your personal data be transferred to systemax you need to opt out by June 9

    See the following for the opt out page

    http://mail.circuitcity.com/p/Circuit_City_Backup/cc_web_optout

    see the following for more information about opting out

    http://www.circuitcity.com/sectors/opt-outv2.asp

    1. Re:opt out by Megatog615 · · Score: 1

      I don't understand why we wouldn't be able to opt out at any point(after June 9).

    2. Re:opt out by renegade600 · · Score: 1

      it has to do with your personal data. Once they have your personal data (name, address, purchase history, return history and other info), normally it becomes a permanent part of their database. After the deadline, the only thing you can opt out of is their email list.

    3. Re:opt out by zenyu · · Score: 1

      You sir have never attempted to opt out of TigerDirect direct marketing.

      Think of them as the Typhoid Mary of spammers, they go around spreading your info to all comers but have a sophisticated system of phone call marry go rounds for thwarting all efforts to remove yourself from their claws. I had to move twice and not leave forwarding addresses with the post office before I got them off my tail.

    4. Re:opt out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you do not want your personal data be transferred to systemax you need to opt out by June 9

      That should be illegal. They either should take over the complete customer relation, including all warranty claimes etc, or nothing at all.

    5. Re:opt out by Bill+Dimm · · Score: 1

      I made an online purchase from Circuit City a couple of years ago, so I went to the link you provided and entered my email address to opt-out. It then told me the second step was to click a link that would be emailed to me immediately. I never got that email (it's been a few hours now, and I did check the spam dump). Disturbing. Anybody else have this happen?

    6. Re:opt out by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Once you hand over a customer's information to another company, there's no way to "undo" that. The new owners of circuitcity.com have your information at that point.

    7. Re:opt out by gorbachev · · Score: 1

      They already spammed me, so what's the point?

      I'm setting up an email filter rule that returns all that stuff back to as many Systemax employees as I can possibly find.

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  9. what's the point? by cashman73 · · Score: 3, Informative

    So, the new site is basically Tigerdirect underneath with the usual Circuit City logo on the main page? I bet when you order, the stuff comes out of the same warehouse as Tigerdirect. So, why not just order from Tigerdirect? These guys did the exact same thing with compusa.com. If they were going to do something new and different with the brand, then I'd say go for it, but this is hardly creative at all. They've basically just put Circuit City on an eternal life support machine,...

    1. Re:what's the point? by kimmp · · Score: 1

      Add something to your cart on any of the three sites. When you get to the upselling page change "tigerdirect", "compusa", or "circuitcity" to one of the others. It's like magic!

    2. Re:what's the point? by kimmp · · Score: 1

      I mean change the URL, sorry.

    3. Re:what's the point? by CastrTroy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, Best Buy bought out Futureshop here in Canada. They had plans of opening up Best Buy's, and closing down Futureshop. What they found out, is that after they opened the Best Buy stores, they made just as much money with Best Buy as they did with the Futureshops, and didn't Lost any Business at the existing Futureshop stores. They also realized that a lot of people, probably a majority of people aren't even aware they are owned by the same company. So many customers will make remarks about bad customer service and say they will go to the other store, while the employees snicker at them. I'ms sure that This is basically the same thing. Most people will have no idea they are the same store, and they will think they have a real choice about where to shop.

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    4. Re:what's the point? by one_in_a_milli0n · · Score: 0

      FutureShock ond WorstBuy do have slightly different selection of products and sometimes different prices and special offers. But yes, service is equally bad, i.e. non-existent.

    5. Re:what's the point? by renegade600 · · Score: 1

      it's called marketing and has to do with name recognition. Most general users recognizes and will purchase from circuit city but not tigerdirect or compusa. Some users will purchase from tigerdirect but they will stay far away from compusa.

      What the customer don't know actually increase overall sales for systemax.

    6. Re:what's the point? by richmaine · · Score: 1

      Yep. I have long had a personal policy to never do business with Tiger Direct. It's such a long-standing policy that I've forgotten the details. Perhaps it is just my mind blocking out old unpleasant experiences. I recall establishing the policy, which is all I really need to remember. And now that I know, I know to extend that policy to Circuit City.

    7. Re:what's the point? by pod · · Score: 1

      Yeah, when this first happened I think I recall some future shops getting rebranded, but that mysteriously stopped, and now you can find both future shops and best buys. This mystified me, until some time later I realized almost no one knew they're the same company. People don't get deals at one place or get bad service, they go next door to the other one to make their purchase on basically the same terms.

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    8. Re:what's the point? by Randall_Lind · · Score: 1

      CompUSA still has two stores in Clearwater and Tampa FL. So they may sell the same stuff as TigerDirect store. You can go buy from a brick store. Just buying Circuit City name is dumb.

    9. Re:what's the point? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your post would've been better with urls, but interesting.

    10. Re:what's the point? by toddestan · · Score: 1

      it's called marketing and has to do with name recognition. Most general users recognizes and will purchase from circuit city but not tigerdirect or compusa. Some users will purchase from tigerdirect but they will stay far away from compusa.

      What the customer don't know actually increase overall sales for systemax.

      You might want to ask General Motors how well that worked out for them.

  10. in other news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Chrysler is selling rights to the AMC Pacer and Gremlin brands, while a private equity firm is negotiating with Hollywood studios to produce "Ishtar, the Remake".

  11. monopoly by kkandnathan · · Score: 0, Troll

    More and more companies have been merged, must care monopoly! http://www.nowgoal.com/17.shtml

  12. Consumer laws by AnalPerfume · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No corporate policy trumps consumer law, it's the other way round. Do any consumer protection laws in the US guarantee something more that these cretins are trying to push? I used to work in a store where we were told to use "company policy is set in stone" as an excuse for getting the customer to accept something less than the law guaranteed them to.

    Having said that, companies don't lobby politicians into NOT modifying the law pushing the company / consumer balance further in their favor. Judging by many laws / regulations etc you'd think they were written BY corporations and handed to the government to act on.

    1. Re:Consumer laws by asdfndsagse · · Score: 1

      exactly, the only way to not permit returns of defective product is to prominently state AS IS when the user buys it. And not just buried in a 'return policy' document. The product must have an AS IS sticker, or there must be a large plaque next to the goods that lets the user know.

    2. Re:Consumer laws by CodeBuster · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Judging by many laws / regulations etc you'd think they were written BY corporations and handed to the government to act on.

      In fact, this is not far from the truth here in the United States. Does anyone actually believe that Congressmen, Senators, and their staffs actually sit down and write out 3,000+ page bills to submit to committee? Many, if not most, of the bills that come before Congress are actually written by professional lobbyists employed by firms located in and around the Washington DC area on behalf of their corporate clients. Even if the bill is written by the Congress, the budget for example, the lobby firms still submit amendments for their Congresmen and Senators to slip into the package.

    3. Re:Consumer laws by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you'd think they were written BY corporations and handed to the government

      because they were. They just happened to have a nice big check attached to them when they gave it to the congress-critters ;)

    4. Re:Consumer laws by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      Does anyone actually believe that Congressmen, Senators, and their staffs actually sit down and write out 3,000+ page bills to submit to committee?

      Yes, I think their staffs do exactly this.

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    5. Re:Consumer laws by evilviper · · Score: 1

      I used to work in a store where we were told to use "company policy is set in stone" as an excuse for getting the customer to accept something less than the law guaranteed them to.

      Whenever someone is telling you something you don't like, or flat out don't believe, ask to get that IN WRITING. It's amazing how quickly soulless fast-talkers do a complete 180 when faced with the necessity of providing hard-proof of their behavior.

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    6. Re:Consumer laws by AnalPerfume · · Score: 1

      From the sales persons perspective, if they are told to use this (like I was) and question it's legality or fairness the employers suddenly notice all sorts of petty things to use as excuses to give you official warnings. In short, many work places want loyalty to the company and any scams it has going (the old "be a team player" adage) over loyalty to the customer. The customer is only a walking wallet which needs to be sucked dry. You speak up, you'll be unemployed within a few months at most.

      The sales staff can easily just pass the buck and reply with "here's HO's details, write to them, they'll tell you." Any time the customer is expected to put a request in writing, more often than not the customers' ire will have dissipated by the time they get home so they won't be bothered to write. Sometimes the offer of getting it from HO is enough to convince the customer that it must be right so they give in on the spot without confirmation.

      Sales is all about acting, selling an illusion. If the sales person appears confident, knowledgeable, friendly and willing to bend to your needs they will be successful in getting your money most of the time. Whether that's all smoke and mirrors with inflated starting prices so the discounts appear big, even though they were budgeted for to begin with don't matter.....the impression the customer gets is what counts. It's an act.

      If the sales person is hesitant and has to keep checking stuff do you believe what they're telling you? People are new in jobs all the time, and will go through this phase so that has to be accounted for. If they tell you some store policy, do you believe they know it? In fairness someone new to the job wouldn't be dealing with complaints so that's not really a fair analogy.

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  14. Translation of return policy by sjames · · Score: 4, Funny

    Products in need of return for physical defects may not be returned. Products that we ship incomplete may not be returned. Products whose brand name is recognizable may not be returned.

    Honestly their return policy could be greatly abbreviated as follows: "All your base are belong to us"

    1. Re:Translation of return policy by AnalPerfume · · Score: 1

      They could save all the reading and replace the entire page with a "HAHA!! Suckers, what return policy? Gotcha!!" or a "this page is not supported in your browser" message set to show for EVERY browser.

  15. Brothers in Suckitude by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 1

    Well, since Tiger Direct sucks, and CompUSA sucked, can we expect CircuitCity.com to be any different?

    Nope.

    I do like the consumerist's comparison to NewEgg (for those who RTFA). Who should get our business? (Hint: the word begins with New and ends with Egg.)

    1. Re:Brothers in Suckitude by ImaLamer · · Score: 2, Interesting

      God, yet another NewEgg fanboy. Because shopping online shouldn't be about choice - it should be about worship!

      Not that I have anything against NE, it's just that this thread is looking to be spammed by their employees.

    2. Re:Brothers in Suckitude by caldodge · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they're praising Newegg because they're happy with it? I don't work for Newegg, but I buy my parts almost exclusively from them.

      Meanwhile, I go to TigerDirect only if they have a component at an unbeatable price (which hasn't happened in 2-3 years). I won't buy complex products from them, after buying 2 Shuttle computers which were DOA (the "Direct" in TigerDirect means "Direct from the factory, so contact THEM about returns, not us" - and the factory never responded to phone calls or emails), and a Vivitar photo/video camera which died after a couple of months.

  16. Some tradenames should die by grolaw · · Score: 1

    CircuitCity is presently the top of my list of organizations to boycott. Sam Rami has a good idea - drag them to hell.

  17. The concise summary by dpbsmith · · Score: 2, Funny

    A chain that was called "Circuit City"
    Lost all of the cash in its kitty;
        So they gave it some whacks
        With a big System Ax
    And now it will be Circut Shitty.

  18. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Informative

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  19. One a tiny positive note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    At least they will have just one price for a particular item now. I worked at CC and quit shortly before they declared bankruptcy, and I felt like an idiot every time I had to explain to a customer that we couldn't match the price on our own frickin website.

    1. Re:One a tiny positive note by renegade600 · · Score: 1

      I was able to get online prices at the local circuit city store without any arguments. After they looked it up, they gave it to me every time.

    2. Re:One a tiny positive note by ImaLamer · · Score: 1

      Bullshit considering their website always matched the price *except* when the store was cheaper. ANd it had to be considering they did online-in-store-pickup that took stock from that store (and was always the same price). Total lie.

      I think you worked at Wal-Mart who uses JIT stocking and pricing on-the-fly (where CC does not).

  20. Stand by your guns by AnalPerfume · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Usually when I have paid cash for something and told my refund will be in the form of store credit, I ask them to point out where I paid in store credit on the receipt, and where in the statute books it states I can't be refunded in the currency I paid in.

    Stay polite but firm, refuse point blank to accept less and keep moving up the command chain when the next chump sent to deal with you repeats the same as the last chump. Make sure you use a loud but calm voice to ensure that other customers hear you. Mind you, I enjoy twisting a sales person inside out with logic until they run out of excuses and agree to what the law states I'm entitled to just to get me out the door. Remember, the longer you tie these people up dealing with you, the more time they lose trying to sell stuff to other customers.

    Of course this only works with a real brick and mortar store.

    1. Re:Stand by your guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you name some brick-and-mortar stores that try to pay refunds in store credit with a cash-paid-within-30-days receipt? A month is more than fair for trial with full cash refund. I've worked for several retail stores and never met with a "try to force them to accept store credit" policy.

    2. Re:Stand by your guns by Electrawn · · Score: 3, Informative

      Or ALWAYS pay with a credit card (not a debit card). One call to the bank, and it becomes the store's problem to prove you are wrong. Also, it costs them $25 to $50 from Visa to deal with a dispute.

    3. Re:Stand by your guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some stores have a policy stating all returns are in the form of store credit. In which case you agreed to that policy by buying their product.

      Some stores don't accept returns at all.

      Some stores refund cash as a mailed check. Such is the case with Best Buy and cash purchases over $250.

    4. Re:Stand by your guns by evilviper · · Score: 3, Informative

      One call to the bank, and it becomes the store's problem to prove you are wrong. Also, it costs them $25 to $50 from Visa to deal with a dispute.

      Have you actually tried this on more than one occasion, or are you just parroting something you've heard somewhere?

      After returning a clearly defective product that I had spent over an hour testing (specifically, a cable from the bastards at cableclub.com, found via pricewatch), I was told the received product was NOT DEFECTIVE, and I would be given a store credit for the price of the product, minus shipping & handling... in short, less than I paid to ship the item back, and less than it would cost to buy (including shipping) ANYTHING from them again. I tried repeatedly to explain that there's no way they could be correct, and pointed out a handful of factual errors in the info they provided, and still got a steadfast refusal to even return the "defective" item.

      I contacted the bank that issued my MasterCard, and explained the situation. They told me that there's no way to prove the product was, in fact, defective, and that because they have a stated policy which allows them to do this, my challenge would be declined, and suggested I just stop shopping there. It took me 5 more minutes to convince the rep I still wanted to challenge the charge, and get him to fill out the paperwork. Of course, the refund never showed up on my card, and the paperwork for me to fill out never arrived.

      That's the gist of my experience with CC companies. Their "fraud" protection applies only to a very narrowly defined scenario of fraud, and you'll still probably have to take them to court...

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    5. Re:Stand by your guns by whmac33 · · Score: 1

      Often the law grants you less rights than many store's policies. Here (US) many stores have a no questions return policy and will give your money back for any reason just about as long as you have a receipt. But that's not necessary on their part. Their only obligation is to live up to the contract and implied warranty of the sale, i.e. what they claimed to be selling is what they sold, and that it functioned as claimed. Stores have no obligation to return products just because you changed your mind, and if it doesn't work properly, their only obligation is to fix it, replace it, or keep up their end of the sale in some manner.

    6. Re:Stand by your guns by afabbro · · Score: 1

      Usually when I have paid cash for something and told my refund will be in the form of store credit, I ask them to point out where I paid in store credit on the receipt, and where in the statute books it states I can't be refunded in the currency I paid in.

      They may instead point you to the sign that says "no refunds".

      Stay polite but firm, refuse point blank to accept less and keep moving up the command chain when the next chump sent to deal with you repeats the same as the last chump. Make sure you use a loud but calm voice to ensure that other customers hear you. Mind you, I enjoy twisting a sales person inside out with logic until they run out of excuses and agree to what the law states I'm entitled to just to get me out the door.

      I hate to be the one to break this to you, but if you buy something at a store that has a no-refunds, store-credit-only policy posted, you have zero rights. "The law" does not state otherwise.

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    7. Re:Stand by your guns by AnalPerfume · · Score: 1

      Ah the old idea of "being upfront with your customers before they buy", spawned from the same people who brought you such classics as "the small print" lol.

      I've only seen a few small independents with signs like that, most of the large retailers I've seen don't want the public image of shiesters so wouldn't display it. If it ain't displayed clearly, though.

    8. Re:Stand by your guns by AnalPerfume · · Score: 1

      There's another ellement to the (not) defective argument that people tend to forget. In the UK at least there's a clause that it has to be fit for purpose on the customers equipment.

      I bought an LP many years ago which jumped like hell on my player so I took it back. I wanted the LP so I was happy with an exchange but the new one did the same thing. I took that back and again was happy with another exchange on the proviso that the sales person tested it on the store player first. He did, it played fine so I watched that very item being slid into the sleeve and handed to me, only to find it jumped like the others on my player. No other record jumped so my player was fine, the LP played fine in the store so it was fine.

      When I took it back we didn't want an exchange, but he tried to brush me off with store credit, which my reply was "I want that LP, if all your stock is faulty I'll buy it elsewhere, for that I need my money back. I can't spend YOUR store credit in another store." He didn't really have much of an option as the law (at least then) stated that it had to work on the customers equipment, in this case it didn't on mine, therefor it meets the definition of "defective" even though it was perfect in the store.

      Granted this was several years ago and the corporations have bought a lot of new laws and changes in laws since then so it may not apply anymore, but it's an angle to look for that many overlook. Even if it's not clear now, it may be enough of an argument to push the store over the line into giving in to your reasonable demands. Try it, you just never know.

  21. Why would you want the Circuit City brand name? by LordNimon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To me, the Circuit City brand represents high prices and bad service. I don't understand why anyone would want the Circuit City name. It's tainted.

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    1. Re:Why would you want the Circuit City brand name? by brentonboy · · Score: 1

      To me, the Circuit City brand represents high prices and bad service. I don't understand why anyone would want the Circuit City name. It's tainted.

      Because it's better than the Tiger Direct brand name. For example, Dell just sued Tiger Direct for selling used and refurbished Dell laptops as "Brand New."

    2. Re:Why would you want the Circuit City brand name? by mysidia · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Because there is a lot of recognition for the brand name.

      Even if 25% of the past customers are unhappy with Circuit City and will never buy again due to 'poor service' or poor experience in the past, there are still those 75% of the population (a significant number) who would still buy from Circuity City, or give them a second chance...

      That 75% (of past circuit city customers) is a significant portion of the population.

      Probably a much larger population than Tiger Direct's customer base.

    3. Re:Why would you want the Circuit City brand name? by Kjella · · Score: 1

      Because if you ask people what electronics stores they know, they'd start listing and many would remember defunct names. And many of the people that haven't been really burned, think "Maybe I should check out Circuit City too". It's actually easier to change a bad reputation than getting on that list in the first place.

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    4. Re:Why would you want the Circuit City brand name? by toddestan · · Score: 1

      I don't know why I would buy from a company that's only sketchy instead of shady, when there are plenty of reputable places that will sell me the same merchandise for a similar price.

    5. Re:Why would you want the Circuit City brand name? by binaryspiral · · Score: 1

      1. Close failing business
      2. Sell off all stock, buildings, fire employees
      3. Find sucker to buy the domain name of your failed business.
      4. ***
      5. Profit!!!

  22. are you paying attention? by damn_registrars · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why shops at retail stores for electronics anymore?

    There are no locations for the new circuit city. All their retail stores are still closed. The new circuitcity.com is online-only.

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  23. Re: No, really... by symbolic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had an experience not too long ago that had me asking the same question. I first went to the website of a well-known bookseller to check the price on a particular item. They had a list price and an online price. Quite naturally, the online price was cheaper, but I was willing to fork over the list price because I still thought it was reasonable. I walk into the store to find that the shelf price was 60% over list. When I inquired as to why this was, I got the usual smattering of excuses, and an assertion that they would not be able to match the list price on their own website. After some discussion, I placed the item back on the shelf and left. A day later, I purchased the same item from an online retailer at a price that was 30% less than their list price.

    So yeah, brick-and-mortars can whine about the fact that they have to charge sales tax, and that this gives online retailers an advantage, but please...when you pull this kind of crap with customers, EXPECT to lose business.

  24. Who gives a shit? by pecosdave · · Score: 1

    I can still "buy from Montgomery Ward" - it's not like I'm actually able to buy from Montgomery Ward anymore. Snatching up a name is nothing more than that, I don't care what they name it, Circuit City is gone.

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  25. In other news by Deadstick · · Score: 1

    ...sales of wooden stakes and garlic have spiked.

    rj

  26. Re: No, really... by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    The extra 60% pays for the in-store coffee bar that only sells ten cups a day, but makes fifteen pots. The best part about those bars: they're only a minor draw, and the people buying coffee rarely buy the books they read there.

  27. systemic inefficiency by johanatan · · Score: 0

    how fitting that they are part of 'systemax' now.